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Re: The final answer... « Reply #300 on: 2019-02-28, 11:14:14 »

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Is this patent really valid ? I saw Russian video years ago with exact the same embodiment tested experimentally . I piece of wire inside a ferrite core made of ferrite rings glued together with coil on top pulsed.

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Re: The final answer... « Reply #301 on: 2019-03-01, 05:44:36 »

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Frequency equals matter...

I was keyed in on the aspect of the helical over the charged carrier.
This has appeared many times in the overunity arena, in all types of configurations.
Most of the people just focus on the individual build instead of the common configuration.

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Re: The final answer... « Reply #302 on: 2019-03-08, 14:04:01 »

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A new paper that is related to what we were talking about above with the near-field and far-field distinction: "The birth of radiation".
Here the analysis is done in the time domain, and only for the electric field.
"The topology of electric field lines in electric dipole radiation of angular frequency ω changes during each cycle. From the beginning of each cycle to the time t_c given by ωt_c=√2−arctan (√2−1/√2)≈0.8 there is no reconnection of field lines. In the time interval t=t_c to t=1/ω electric field lines separate from the charges on the dipole and close on themselves, but the closed loops eventually die away. For times t=1/ω to t=π/2ω the closed loops do not fade away but fly off to infinity as radiation. This sequence is repeated twice per cycle, with field direction reversal in the second half-cycle."

According to this text, we would therefore have different physical phenomena depending on the time observed in the signal period. I find that surprising.

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giantkiller	Re: The final answer... « Reply #303 on: 2019-05-05, 19:08:47 »
Group: Moderator Hero Member Posts: 1599 Frequency equals matter...	https://www.warp-drive-physics.com/updates-and-design-improvements The take away nugget is: Quote Magnetic fields of resonating inertial mass between a top positive charge and a bottom negative charge is essentially the effect of Townsend Brown Electrodynamics as I call it. ------------------------ www_warp_drive_physics_com_updates_and_design_improvements.pdf (3844.47 kB - downloaded 392 times.) --------------------------- http://purco.qc.ca/ftp/

giantkiller	Re: The final answer... « Reply #304 on: 2019-05-05, 20:32:55 »
Group: Moderator Hero Member Posts: 1599 Frequency equals matter...	Funny how all these models match up... I figured since Russia and China are buddy buddies in Damascus this would be a good time to push the envelope farther. We don't have much time left. History will be over soon. Isaiah 17:1 Quote A prophecy against Damascus: "See, Damascus will no longer be a city but will become a heap of ruins. (for the non believers and argumentative). The original microphone in the speaker image got SM's attention real fast along with the mentioning of the stun gun. ------------------------ The final answer... LTPUAlcubierreWarpDrive.jpg (68.77 kB, 927x727 - viewed 1266 times.) « Last Edit: 2019-05-05, 21:15:55 by giantkiller » --------------------------- http://purco.qc.ca/ftp/

giantkiller	Re: The final answer... « Reply #305 on: 2019-05-05, 20:44:49 »
Group: Moderator Hero Member Posts: 1599 Frequency equals matter...	Quote Resonance is achieved by pulsing the power (on and off, at a frequency), making use of the flyback magneto-static from collapsing magnetic fields. I found this in 2006 with the iron wire core in the GK4 using eclipsing frequencies. This created rogue waves in the iron wire core(microwave expressions). I later went back to the stun gun engines for a simpler drive. This is also why the 90 degree coupling works. The eclipsing frequencies is the key to the drive protocol. Over the years many have tried to achieve this in other ways, better components, cores, metals, conductors. All for naught. But by using the eclipsing frequencies the drive can be controlled better. This alleviated the iron core from spewing sparks which kept the energy in an amperage form instead of a HV expression. With amperage the device stages can be guided into normal circuitry for power extraction. With electrostatics the Biefeld-Brown expression can be utilized. Special topologies have to be used to co-mingle the two.This is why the TPU model picture in the last post is so informative. Past this point you will get visitors. I reside under a top secret test area for military protocol testing. I know a few lurkers have been waiting for this post. There will be no schematics or videos. « Last Edit: 2019-05-06, 04:22:58 by giantkiller » --------------------------- http://purco.qc.ca/ftp/

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Re: The final answer... « Reply #306 on: 2019-05-08, 00:24:57 »

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Quote from: giantkiller on 2019-05-05, 20:32:55

Funny how all these models match up...

I figured since Russia and China are buddy buddies in Damascus this would be a good time to push the envelope farther.
We don't have much time left.
History will be over soon.

Isaiah 17:1 (for the non believers and argumentative).

The original microphone in the speaker image got SM's attention real fast along with the mentioning of the stun gun.

Love that microphone and bell image. To me it says we have two LC arrangements with a 90 degree secondary coupling on each providing feedback. Two sets resonating at their own frequencies on top of one another produce a heterodyning effect. As far as the stun gun mention, what comes to mind is charging and discharging a capacitor.
My 2 cents worth of observation.
Yes, it would be good to get this thing unwrapped before the grid goes down

Bob

giantkiller	Re: The final answer... « Reply #307 on: 2019-05-08, 02:23:53 »
Group: Moderator Hero Member Posts: 1599 Frequency equals matter...	Ding, ding, ding... Now we just have to find a prairie dog that knows electronics. Here: I put some bait in the trap: Destructive, harmonic power reflections. There were some frequencies exposed in the movie 'UFO'. Add CU and FE. « Last Edit: 2019-05-08, 03:19:32 by giantkiller » --------------------------- http://purco.qc.ca/ftp/

F6FLT	Re: The final answer... « Reply #308 on: 2019-05-08, 09:51:57 »
Group: Experimentalist Hero Member Posts: 2162	Quote from: Bob Smith on 2019-05-08, 00:24:57 ...To me it says we have two LC arrangements with a 90 degree secondary coupling on each providing feedback. Two sets resonating at their own frequencies on top of one another produce a heterodyning effect. ... It's not a heterodyning effect. A heterodyning effect results in the apparition of signals at new frequencies, from signals at different frequencies. To achieve this, two signals must be multiplied by each other, and signals at the sum or difference frequency of the first two signals appear. This is due to the fact that a multiplication in the time domain is equivalent to a sum in the frequency domain, simply as a consequence of: sin(a).sin(b) = 1/2 cos(a-b) - 1/2 cos(a+b), replace a with ω1.t+φ1 and b with ω2.t+φ2. Multiplication in the temporal domain is only possible with non-linear elements, which is not the case with ordinary L and C. Whatever the arrangement, the superposition of currents or fields in LC circuits will never give new frequencies if L and C are constant and there are no other non-linear elements in the circuit. It is easy to verify it experimentally, provided you are a little experienced because it is easy to confuse, seen from the scope, a superposition with a multiplication of 2 signals, the shapes can be similar. It is better to see the FFT spectrum, it leaves no doubt. --------------------------- "Open your mind, but not like a trash bin"

giantkiller	Re: The final answer... « Reply #309 on: 2019-05-08, 14:24:17 »
Group: Moderator Hero Member Posts: 1599 Frequency equals matter...	The tpu is a rogue wave generator. Heterodyning is used for harmonics. The goal is to achieve accumulative transmission reflections fed back into the resonance. An Emp is a mass dispersion of these in what looks to be a single shot. SM stated that the unit draws lightning from the sky. It actually produces it. It 1996 no one was dealing with or they were squelching this kind of energy production. But now we see how useful this energy can be applied. The microwave oven circuit exemplifies the charge pumping portion of the tpu circuit, i.e. half wave rectifier into a magnetic spark gap/magnetron. The tpu had magnets in it. Rogue waves/emp discharges applied to soft material/food. Thumbs up! Energy from the vacuum. Measure it however you want. Its too simple to own. That is why SM went through all the shenanigans to demo it. And boy did everybody fall for it. A real feat of physical and verbal prestidigitation. Hell, he even pocketed the magnets. --------------------------- http://purco.qc.ca/ftp/

F6FLT	Re: The final answer... « Reply #310 on: 2019-05-08, 17:39:08 »
Group: Experimentalist Hero Member Posts: 2162	Heterodyne is probably present in TPU since it uses non-linear elements. But it is not generated by LC circuits or in coupled fields, only in transistors or diodes of electronic circuits. The problem is that obviously no one understands anything about it, and obviously everyone wants to imagine explanations, and so does SM, if I rely on your sentence: "SM stated that the unit draws lightning from the sky". However, no one has replicated the overunity, and there are so many possibilities of magnetic or capacitive couplings, that the results can be anything, and if it's weird, that's not surprising. This does not mean that the operation is unconventional. It is necessary to be very good in electronics engineering to model it, given the large number of parameters to be taken into account, some of which are not easy to measure and even to see (hidden capacitances). There is no sense in looking for explanations for something that no one observes working as it should, that is, with overunity. Normally, we try to explain what we observe, not what we would like to observe. While imagining an overunity operating principle can help to properly build the machine to implement it, invoking the ZPE or lightning from the sky or "rogue wave" without any operational basis is fiction. --------------------------- "Open your mind, but not like a trash bin"

giantkiller	Re: The final answer... « Reply #311 on: 2019-05-08, 18:28:13 »
Group: Moderator Hero Member Posts: 1599 Frequency equals matter...	The mind that is addicted to measurement can not see what the charlatan actually shows. SM showed working devices. He expressed a lot of physics but not in those affiliated terms. He gave a lot of reverse analogies of operation which sounded like magic. Those who crave measurement have been on this reverse engineering mindset path for over 17 years now. Because they want facts or numbers. But no one has ventured into the realm of destructive, reflective harmonics. This comes from heterodyning in an established field. The heterodyning comes in two ways. One is the purposeful mixing of frequencies at any and all power levels. And Two from the purposeful mixing of established fields with other fields i.e. Bloch wall exercise and EMPs. The measurements are great for the books, papers and doctorates. But in this exercise the common man does not care about how the explosions happen, just get them to the store in their vehicle or give them hot food at the press of a button while the insecure want affirmation from their adventures. There is enough documentation from this journey to prove the technology is feasible. I have given enough operational examples to prove the technology. These piggy back off of other's declarations. I am not the only one looking for a prairie dog. There will no money made from the TPU venture only death. I have absolute proof that this technology is not allowed nor will it be tolerated here. All efforts are trying to claim reward for what Tesla, Dollard and a great other men have already published. Yet Pandora's soapbox is always beakoning from greater and greater heights for the vain to fall from. Wattsup's configurations showed destructive reflections without the harmonics(Now this is the biggest gold nugget ever). Two loop transmitter/receivers facing each other in an harmonic envelope. If you ever see this working you WILL run down the street in total amazement. --------------------------- http://purco.qc.ca/ftp/

F6FLT	Re: The final answer... « Reply #312 on: 2019-05-09, 10:26:45 »
Group: Experimentalist Hero Member Posts: 2162	Reverse engineering is a good idea, but only if you have engineering, which is not the case (no schematics). However, the good ideas you can have about supposed engineering, why not use them directly to imagine a new system, rather than imagine how a system that we don't have a realization could work? Because if the idea is good, no matter how you implement it, you no longer have to do something that looks physically like what SM did. --------------------------- "Open your mind, but not like a trash bin"

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Re: The final answer... « Reply #313 on: 2019-05-09, 18:55:57 »

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Quote from: F6FLT on 2019-05-09, 10:26:45

Reverse engineering is a good idea, but only if you have engineering, which is not the case (no schematics).

However, the good ideas you can have about supposed engineering, why not use them directly to imagine a new system, rather than imagine how a system that we don't have a realization could work?

Because if the idea is good, no matter how you implement it, you no longer have to do something that looks physically like what SM did.

Very true, but if your idea requires a similar shape as SM's then they are going to have some visible similarities, such as magnetic loops. You are a radio ham and as so you know what I am talking about. We know that high voltages and currents circulate around such TX/RX loops, but they are 180º out of phase, so no real power.

Magnetic loops as the name infers are magnetic in the near field and as so magnetic induction can be high within that field, also they do not need to be elevated above the ground like other antennas.
This leaves the loop with a different ground plane with reference to the earth, this IMO is where capacitance between two loops can be used to draw in that ZPE and from where we can extract the energy in a form that is usable through phase changed induction. One plate of the capacitor is to a floating ground and the other is counterpoised with the ionosphere, extract at the right phase angle and we have real power.

Regards

Mike

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giantkiller	Re: The final answer... « Reply #314 on: 2019-05-09, 20:00:19 »
Group: Moderator Hero Member Posts: 1599 Frequency equals matter...	@F6FLT: Also there is no need for reverse engineering if you 'have' schematics because most of the pertinent information is supplied. There is nothing to be reversed except SM's statements. Such chicanery and charlatism was on purpose. Quote The problem is that obviously no one understands anything about it, and obviously everyone wants to imagine explanations, and so does SM, if I rely on your sentence: "SM stated that the unit draws lightning from the sky". When anybody talks about about free energy the hackles and defenses go up. You poked before you peeked. The twist is this device, at certain stages, produces sparks into the air. In my history of quoting SM I repeatedly stated he turned operational statements backward. From my experience you are a fairly recent newcomer, ableit an antenna person which is what I had been harping for a long time. We can debate about levels of knowledge till the planets collide which will just waste time. I have nothing to prove and I am sure you have a lot offer. But you do not know what I know. My statement is: This is a weapon. Let that sink in. --------------------------- http://purco.qc.ca/ftp/

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Re: The final answer... « Reply #315 on: 2019-05-10, 01:30:54 »

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My statement is:
This is a weapon. Let that sink in.

Those who possess it have many more in their
arsenal. The Black Hole of Black Projects sucks
it all in.

But only for a time. All will be revealed.

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giantkiller	Re: The final answer... « Reply #316 on: 2019-05-10, 03:40:19 »
Group: Moderator Hero Member Posts: 1599 Frequency equals matter...	Quote from: muDped on 2019-05-10, 01:30:54 Those who possess it have many more in their arsenal. The Black Hole of Black Projects sucks it all in. But only for a time. All will be revealed. Yes. If one is found in possession of the signature generating device, well... So I throw down the gauntlet here: In OUR we now have enough antenna engineers that are familiar with power transmission feedback. The idea is to create a transmission circuit that reverbs power reflections and capture them. Gone are the days of trying to capture the shake and shimmy of particular anomalies of special circuits. Harmonic reverbs at a very minute level. Imagine showing up in Israel with this device? Let alone get it on a plane or have it go through customs. Right here I have shown my hand of aces. I have known for +12 years and have promoted this design. While everyone is trying to power light bulbs I have been sitting on the revised, new and improved Ark of the Covenant(right out of the Bible, described and built by King David(and there are those who refuse to believe)), with a history of blowing things up, from flesh to neighborhoods. The critical part of the circuit is the tuning(LC(BobSmith, Centraflow)). That is the configuration to achieve the protocol of slowing down the EMP or the capturing of the reflective harmonics to a usable train of flowing energy instead of letting it fly loose. Or, God forbid, grounding it(Kapadnaze grounds his because he is not returning it to a government sponsored loop system). Now doesn't this approach seem more attainable? What? The free energy train has been derailed? By just a simple twist of examples and the whole science switches track. The whole time the design has been right under everyone's noses. The warning is: Should one build the circuit do not, I repeat do not let the reverbs back into the power grid. I have done that too. That is why SM stated 'If you connect the TPU to ground you lose it.' He's damn right you'll lose it. The authorities will be knocking on your door. I escaped by the skin of my teeth on this one. I went from burnt nerves to the shaking the structure of the house to the blowing house electronics to damaging the neighborhood electronics to the transmitting power reflections in the house grid system. I thank God the GFI outlets stopped me there. The next step was obvious. The next design can cause fires in other abodes. SM even had the power towers next to his rental home. Area destruction would have been so easy. I could have gone down in history with this one but decided freedom and my D.O.D retirement more precious. I saw Dollard's history playing with with TPTB(the powers that be). I worked this 'Cat and Mouse' game to its inevitible progression. My avatar here is the answer everyone has always been looking for. It is time to 'Release the hounds.' --------------------------- http://purco.qc.ca/ftp/

F6FLT	Re: The final answer... « Reply #317 on: 2019-05-10, 09:09:42 »
Group: Experimentalist Hero Member Posts: 2162	Quote from: giantkiller on 2019-05-09, 20:00:19 @F6FLT: Also there is no need for reverse engineering if you 'have' schematics because most of the pertinent information is supplied. ... Reverse engineering is about understanding how real equipment works, and obtaining the plans, or if you have the plans, understanding the operating principle so that you can make your own realizations from the principle. If you don't have the plan or the equipment, you don't do reverse engineering, you don't do anything more than play a guessing game. Quote From my experience you are a fairly recent newcomer, ableit an antenna person which is what I had been harping for a long time. We can debate about levels of knowledge till the planets collide which will just waste time. I have nothing to prove... So your goal is achieved. Regards --------------------------- "Open your mind, but not like a trash bin"

F6FLT	Re: The final answer... « Reply #318 on: 2019-05-10, 09:11:01 »
Group: Experimentalist Hero Member Posts: 2162	Quote from: Centraflow on 2019-05-09, 18:55:57 ... Magnetic loops as the name infers are magnetic in the near field and as so magnetic induction can be high within that field, also they do not need to be elevated above the ground like other antennas. This leaves the loop with a different ground plane with reference to the earth, this IMO is where capacitance between two loops can be used to draw in that ZPE and from where we can extract the energy in a form that is usable through phase changed induction. One plate of the capacitor is to a floating ground and the other is counterpoised with the ionosphere, extract at the right phase angle and we have real power. Regards Mike Hi Mike, The ground is not required as long as we are dealing with dipoles. A conductive loop is a magnetic dipole, so no ground is required. An electric dipole antenna is also a dipole, and therefore no ground is required for its operation. Why does it have to be placed high? Because there is a capacity between it and the ground and the tension at its ends is high, so there could be significant losses when it is horizontally polarized, as well as an upward radiation pattern by reflection, rather than horizontally. In a vertical position, the ground does not matter, but obviously the higher the dipole is, the further it will radiate in the horizontal plane, before reaching the earth. On the other hand, with a vertical quarter-wave antenna which is a monopole, the ground is necessary for operation, it is the ground that provides the image of the electrical charges that allow the quarter-wave to function as a dipole, it has the same role as the second element of the electric dipole antenna. And at a distance from a wavelength, it generates exactly the same electromagnetic wave as a magnetic loop. It should not be forgotten that a vertical magnetic loop provides a horizontal magnetic field but also, as soon as it radiates, a vertical electric field, just as the vertical quarter-wave antenna provides a horizontal magnetic field at the same distance. There is no mystery, all this is modelled very well, it is done every time a new radio station is installed, or telephone operators deploy their mobile network. The idea of using the ZPE cannot be inferred from these banal operations, it is a completely unexpected and gratuitous idea unrelated to any operating principle and that nothing of the behaviour of these elements can support. The ZPE is invoked every time we want to see overunity somewhere without having the slightest idea of how it works, and often for a reason because it doesn't work. It's the easy way out. When I am told how energy could be extracted from an already minimal energy state, which is the ZPE, then I might say that there is an idea. Right now it's just a magic word that we put on anything. « Last Edit: 2019-05-10, 10:17:34 by F6FLT » --------------------------- "Open your mind, but not like a trash bin"

Centraflow	Re: The final answer... « Reply #319 on: 2019-05-10, 16:07:24 »
Group: Experimentalist Hero Member Posts: 3024	Quote from: F6FLT on 2019-05-10, 09:11:01 Hi Mike, The ground is not required as long as we are dealing with dipoles. A conductive loop is a magnetic dipole, so no ground is required. An electric dipole antenna is also a dipole, and therefore no ground is required for its operation. Why does it have to be placed high? Because there is a capacity between it and the ground and the tension at its ends is high, so there could be significant losses when it is horizontally polarized, as well as an upward radiation pattern by reflection, rather than horizontally. In a vertical position, the ground does not matter, but obviously the higher the dipole is, the further it will radiate in the horizontal plane, before reaching the earth. On the other hand, with a vertical quarter-wave antenna which is a monopole, the ground is necessary for operation, it is the ground that provides the image of the electrical charges that allow the quarter-wave to function as a dipole, it has the same role as the second element of the electric dipole antenna. And at a distance from a wavelength, it generates exactly the same electromagnetic wave as a magnetic loop. It should not be forgotten that a vertical magnetic loop provides a horizontal magnetic field but also, as soon as it radiates, a vertical electric field, just as the vertical quarter-wave antenna provides a horizontal magnetic field at the same distance. There is no mystery, all this is modelled very well, it is done every time a new radio station is installed, or telephone operators deploy their mobile network. The idea of using the ZPE cannot be inferred from these banal operations, it is a completely unexpected and gratuitous idea unrelated to any operating principle and that nothing of the behaviour of these elements can support. The ZPE is invoked every time we want to see overunity somewhere without having the slightest idea of how it works, and often for a reason because it doesn't work. It's the easy way out. When I am told how energy could be extracted from an already minimal energy state, which is the ZPE, then I might say that there is an idea. Right now it's just a magic word that we put on anything. Here is an excellent video from an air friend which really does explain the magloop https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adJp1zO9qfo The term ZPE was just that, a term. The energy charge which exists, always, is between the earth and the ionosphere, this is what I am after, that charge. A mag loop is similar to a dipole but not exactly the same, many are confused with that, the circumference of the loop has to be less than 10% of the wavelength being used or it just will not work and is unique to the mag loop AFAIK. I used to have a 20m mag loop and a G5RV, on 20m, the mag loop worked better and was very quiet as far as noise was concerned. On 10m I used a sigma IV vertical which is a very special antenna with a loop ground plane, best contact was 10w from the UK to Perth in Australia and giving me a 5 9 at the height of sunspot activity, the world of antennas is huge and not all understood, we all are learning every day Well back to building my special type of dual mag loop 73's Mike --------------------------- "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident." Arthur Schopenhauer, Philosopher, 1788-1860 As a general rule, the most successful person in life is the person that has the best information.

giantkiller	Re: The final answer... « Reply #320 on: 2019-05-10, 19:13:13 »
Group: Moderator Hero Member Posts: 1599 Frequency equals matter...	Great pearls, my friend! Quote the circumference of the loop has to be less than 10% of the wavelength being used or it just will not work https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adJp1zO9qfo And isn't it odd that the loop in the video is the same size as the LTPU? Quote So your goal is achieved. Not yet. I have a few more avenues to include from other areas of electronics so as to not expose myself. Ready? Quote Why grounding is so important ? Improper grounding or earthing can create a lethal hazard. Correct grounding is essential for correct operation and safety of electrical equipment. Most countries have strict regulations about how electrical installations are earthed for safety. Earthing can solve many problems, but it can also cause new ones. One of the most common problems is called the "ground loop" or "earth loop". Why a ground loop is a problem ? Ground loops are a mystery to many people. Ground loops are the most common cause of AC line frequency hum in sound systems. A ground loop in the power or video signal occurs when some components in the same system are receiving their power from a different power source from other components. This may cause your system to have different ground potentials. This becomes a problem because amplifiers and mixers need an electrical earth connection to their chassis to provide screening against interference. Audio input leads are screened against interference and the screen inevitably connects to the same earthing point in the amplifier / mixer. Audio signal (from a guitar for example) is a variable voltage relative to earth. When the earth potentials of two or more pieces of equipment are different, the relative signal is less stable, screening is compromised and interference manifests itself as hum. Ground loop is a common problem when connecting multiple audio equipment together. Considering the quantity of equipment used on a typical stage it is surprising that ground loops are not more common. Ground loops commonly cause a humming noise to audio signals and interference bars to picture. Ground loop makes the system sensitive to pick up interference from mains wiring which can lead to erratic operation of the equipment or even damage to the equipment. Audio-frequency ground loop problems are typically in the low millivolt range, but there does not have to be much interference in a grounding system to cause problems in your audio system because of the hugh amount of amplification applied to microphone and instrument sources. Remember that there is no absolute ground. There is a certain amount of resistance to electrical current between all grounding points. This resistance can change with humidity, temperature, connected equipment and many other variables. No matter how small, the resistance can always allow an electrical voltage to exist across it. The ground wires between wall sockets and power company transformers are not perfect conductors and neither is the shield of your signal cable. If they were, ground loops would not be a problem. Certain types of cable screening can give better results because they cover the inner signal cores completely eg foil screening in multicores and braid screening on good quality XLR microphone leads. http://www.epanorama.net/documents/groundloop/index.html The middle stage of the stun gun is a ground division. It is normally called a charge pump stage. The microwave oven has the same circuit but the internal spark gap has been incorporated in the magnetron. This section of the circuit can be flexed in a multitude of ways to achieve a resonant magnetic envelope. It is also a great place to position coupling antennas to. The goal is to make this section perform like the field expression of the secondary of a Tesla coil. And it is pretty simple because in the circuit we actually create a physical loop instead of the natural loop of the Tesla coil physics. Now apply the High Q amplifier circuitry (radio tuning) to this section and one can easily see the oscillator in stage 1 of the stung gun circuit. Putting this all together we have a stungun, a transmit/receive radio, and a ground loop difference. It really is this simple, like SM stated. SM made many off handed statements about exercising the potential in the ground loop section. His best one was when he was working on a 'special' speaker system he noticed an anomaly. Yeah right... It was the normal feedback loop in an incorrectly connected amplifier system. No magic here. Shat gets blown up in a self oscillating system. That system thumps too when you stand in front of the concert speaker. It is good practice to not place anything on the speakers when playing. One more: Pager motors in the small units and a speaker in the LTPU black box. Why not? Great feedback indicator and fulfills an inductive requirement. Plus a little magic in the demonstrations. Has there ever been any TPU conversation of any synchronizations between the vibrations received when holding a unit and the operational talk that SM gave? The overwrap is a helical antenna that fires in a circular fashion as a feedback mechanism. Magnetic field manipulation in the audio range. The TPU is a ground loop exercised in a harmonic fashion via tuned charge pump through antenna coupling. End of story. ------------------------ The final answer... stungutz.jpg (19.08 kB, 494x416 - viewed 913 times.) The final answer... Q-Multiplier.jpg (42.97 kB, 746x583 - viewed 938 times.) The final answer... MannixCapLoop.jpg (15.64 kB, 798x257 - viewed 848 times.) « Last Edit: 2019-05-11, 00:03:42 by giantkiller » --------------------------- http://purco.qc.ca/ftp/

Bob Smith	Re: The final answer... « Reply #321 on: 2019-05-13, 18:28:07 »
Jr. Member Posts: 72	Great Jeri Ellsworth video, Mike. What struck me about the magloop is that the coil and variable cap arrangement doesn't "kill the dipole," to quote TB. The setup got me thinking about why litz wire might be a better way to go for a TPU (i.e., in this case, a single coil of mult stranded wire with both ends terminating at terminals of a capacitor). SM is alleged to have talked about using is lamp wire, and I'm wondering if this jibes well with the litz wire idea as a more effective way forward. Lots of people talked about lamp wire giving more surface area (skin effect), but there are other benefits from charging inductors in parallel. Interesting that Jeri talks about how the voltage in the magloop goes to the cap, while the current stays in the coil. This seems corroborated by Eric Dollard & TT Brown's Borderlands video showing how resonance separates amperage/magenetism from voltage/dielectricity in an RLC setup. Here's the link cued up: https://youtu.be/6BnCUBKgnnc?t=1386 With GK's little nugget about his avatar, this arrangement begins to make more sense to me. Obviously lots of other steps. Bob

giantkiller	Re: The final answer... « Reply #322 on: 2019-05-13, 19:24:00 »
Group: Moderator Hero Member Posts: 1599 Frequency equals matter...	Quote from: Bob Smith on 2019-05-13, 18:28:07 Great Jeri Ellsworth video, Mike. What struck me about the magloop is that the coil and variable cap arrangement doesn't "kill the dipole," to quote TB. The setup got me thinking about why litz wire might be a better way to go for a TPU (i.e., in this case, a single coil of mult stranded wire with both ends terminating at terminals of a capacitor). SM is alleged to have talked about using is lamp wire, and I'm wondering if this jibes well with the litz wire idea as a more effective way forward. Lots of people talked about lamp wire giving more surface area (skin effect), but there are other benefits from charging inductors in parallel. Interesting that Jeri talks about how the voltage in the magloop goes to the cap, while the current stays in the coil. This seems corroborated by Eric Dollard & TT Brown's Borderlands video showing how resonance separates amperage/magenetism from voltage/dielectricity in an RLC setup. Here's the link cued up: https://youtu.be/6BnCUBKgnnc?t=1386 With GK's little nugget about his avatar, this arrangement begins to make more sense to me. Obviously lots of other steps. Bob In the Eric video @ 34:00 he spills the beans! The HV comparisons are immense. Apply that information to a device trying to produce a usable voltage and one can invariable see if the device in question is even close to the Mark(pun intended). TEM is Edison. LMD is Telsa. See the problem with most of the standard training now? --------------------------- http://purco.qc.ca/ftp/

forest	Re: The final answer... « Reply #323 on: 2019-05-15, 19:34:08 »
Sr. Member Posts: 479	giantkiller Could it be that in so created ground loop electrons continously flow ? What my intuition told me immediately is connection between Barbosa& Leal patents and Corum brothers analyse of Tesla receivers (crystal radio). I'm trying to connect all this but I never worked on radio circuits. Can we create such ground loop which is in the same time magnetic loop (like Tesla said - amplification of current in antenna) and do not radiate radio waves ? Correct me if all I said is buulshit , because I have no experience but I'm quite sure the final device should not radiate EM

giantkiller	Re: The final answer... « Reply #324 on: 2019-05-15, 19:56:29 »
Group: Moderator Hero Member Posts: 1599 Frequency equals matter...	Quote from: forest on 2019-05-15, 19:34:08 giantkiller Could it be that in so created ground loop electrons continously flow ? What my intuition told me immediately is connection between Barbosa& Leal patents and Corum brothers analyse of Tesla receivers (crystal radio). I'm trying to connect all this but I never worked on radio circuits. Can we create such ground loop which is in the same time magnetic loop (like Tesla said - amplification of current in antenna) and do not radiate radio waves ? Correct me if all I said is buulshit , because I have no experience but I'm quite sure the final device should not radiate EM SM placed the amperage clamp meter in the center of the LTPU and the meter showed ac current. Electromagnetics at large. Now imagine if you will (in my best Rod Serling voice), a large oscillating resonance between those two rings sliding back and forth, up and down the center modules. A magnetic gradient will be measured. ------------------------ The final answer... scr00705_comp_forum_by_harbingerdawn-d7ujbmw.jpg (200.25 kB, 1024x576 - viewed 702 times.) « Last Edit: 2019-05-15, 20:45:04 by giantkiller » --------------------------- http://purco.qc.ca/ftp/