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If you go to Woopyjump Lorenz

You will find 2 video's that might be of use to convert unless you want to re invent the wheel

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Maxi energy pumping with mini kacher 1 .
wmvhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVZpL6mdW38

Teslacoil a replication of Tinselkoala amazing 220 bulb lighting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDFEevnkuq0
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@AlienGrey,In these experiments all he is doing is altering, by addition, the discharge path.
This is why the amperage doesn't change.
In fact the lamp presents a higher impedance in the path but just happens to complete another more resistive leg of a parallel circuit.


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@AlienGrey,In these experiments all he is doing is altering, by addition, the discharge path.
This is why the amperage doesn't change.
In fact the lamp presents a higher impedance in the path but just happens to complete another more resistive leg of a parallel circuit.
Hi Mr JK I get what you are saying, but I haven't done this experiment as such as he has shown  in his video recently, but I must ask if this is an assumption or have you performed this experiment your self as if it's down to discharge one would expect some power fluctuation and if so
did you use a desk top mains power supply or a stand alone battery and if you did what differences if any did you notice and what conclusion did you notice if any ?

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I used mains and battery. As long as there is a spark gap with a step up transformer the energy is there. Its the field in the air that lights up the neon. The filament bulb needs a meter in line with it to show the current. If no current then its the field which would have to be more powerful than we see there. I am not bashing his tests. A lot of people have seen this type of operation. The next step is to get the excitations into a larger charge pump of resonant LC circuit like a Tesla coil does. Most charge pumps don't need to be on frequency. The diode just keeps accepting current into the tank. Its a half wave power circuit. Then the output heads match the molecular interface i.e., 5g, ovens, MRI, Tesla coils, stun guns, Tokamak, xray machines.The TPU head resonates the two single sidebands of a base frequency into two tanks. The thumping is the transformer action that crosses the collector by the cross coupled triggered shutoff by each spark gap in the black boxes. Works like a radio and produces EMPs as show on the amperage meter in the middle.
The guy that created the electronic propulsion engine test with hvac tube and home microwave oven circuit really intrigues me.This picture has cables running to detonators all focused at the center.


https://nationalatomictestingmuseum.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/trinity-8-web.jpgTrinity Test -1945 | Atomic Heritage Foundation


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Hi Mr JK I get what you are saying, but I haven't done this experiment as such as he has shown  in his video recently, but I must ask if this is an assumption or have you performed this experiment your self as if it's down to discharge one would expect some power fluctuation and if so
did you use a desk top mains power supply or a stand alone battery and if you did what differences if any did you notice and what conclusion did you notice if any ?

Regards Sil
If Mr. Woopy put a motor in series with the discharge bulb he would replicate E.V. Gray's motor circuit. E.V. made the statement that the motor did not increase current load from what I can remember about his demos.


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I believe I did not post this when I should have before.I had been going over a simpler self oscillating feeder signal to the charge pump. The high Q mulitplier works but an outside signal is needed or something additive that the circuit can read.I had done a magnetic feedback in the past but it wasn't self starting(remember SM swiping a magnet) hence I added the audio version and this addition kick starts everything into action.With the audio loop added in league with the High Q ckt the system now blows the audio amp. This is a very specific artifact as now energy has been produced which is not from an over conducting mechanical connection but reverb and resonance.
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Hi GK,

Most of those integrated audio amps are class D so one has to be cognizant of the switching frequency and heterodyning resonance modes.  They have the low pass on the speaker output but generally not anywhere else.  Try low passing the input and or a zener limiting circuit and you may save some amps.  Though any fast high voltage is going to punch through the semiconductor junction, often hard to catch and protect from.  TVS don't seem to always catch it and die easily also.  SM is right about vacuum tubes for benching this kind of thing, way more robust.

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Hi GK,

Most of those integrated audio amps are class D so one has to be cognizant of the switching frequency and heterodyning resonance modes.  They have the low pass on the speaker output but generally not anywhere else.  Try low passing the input and or a zener limiting circuit and you may save some amps.  Though any fast high voltage is going to punch through the semiconductor junction, often hard to catch and protect from.  TVS don't seem to always catch it and die easily also.  SM is right about vacuum tubes for benching this kind of thing, way more robust.

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The TDA2003 is bullet proof while the TDA2005 blows up.
When the kick occurs the silicon breaks. Tubes can handle that. The kick is like an EMP but way shorter in time.
I have performed both. The companion pulse is a single entity.I switched to the TDA2005 to achieve polyphonic operation in a lower number of modules. And not that these are mandatory. I am just through creating ckts when the block operations are out there to be had in the market. I am not concerned with my builds looking like a TPU as far a circuit configurations go. The main operation is feedback with gain between antennas. This is why the high Q ckt looks so close to a TPU. The TPU is an air core coil, a stadium if you will. The center toroids perform and the listeners/verticals receive. This is why the height and distance are seen. With out loose magnets in the ckt the thumping comes from aerial machinations. I also have placed FE wiring in parallel to achieve vibrations. This becomes a tuning feedback mechanism.

What I was aiming for were multiple things when I posted the microphones in speaker pic to SM back in 2006.The use of audio feedback achieves self oscillation with gain. This added to the high Q ckt achieves a snubbing effect as the high Q is strictly magnetic and relies on distance whereas the audio has both magnetic and air volume.
This is what I have so far. With the addition of audio my device thumps including my bench. Whats interesting is without a true power usage demo no one believes the intermediate steps.But this is ok as the PTB murdered Aaron Salter in the guise of a mass shooting by the correct party, when he advertised his water car accomplishment. He stepped into the public buffoonery spotlight.


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GK,

Yeah the 2003 is class AB

What is required to get the full feedback effect in terms of voltage and current to the aerials?

I have some high voltage 500v very low current MOSFETS that switch very easily and fast, barely any gate capacitance close to subminiture vac tubes specwise.

If you are using a speaker I have no doubt you have a thump.  There are places one does not venture without enough subwoofer.

But I am a bit confused, you say with the addition of audio, are you driving the antennas with the TDA2003 also, or only an additional speaker?

Can the TDA2003 handle the kick or does it shoot through dead?
   
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I believe I did not post this when I should have before.I had been going over a simpler self oscillating feeder signal to the charge pump. The high Q mulitplier works but an outside signal is needed or something additive that the circuit can read.I had done a magnetic feedback in the past but it wasn't self starting(remember SM swiping a magnet) hence I added the audio version and this addition kick starts everything into action.With the audio loop added in league with the High Q ckt the system now blows the audio amp. This is a very specific artifact as now energy has been produced which is not from an over conducting mechanical connection but reverb and resonance.
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Grumpy,GK,

Having designed and manufactured many audio amplifiers, I somehow fail to see any advantage to the audio feedback portion of your block diagram.  The signal output from the amp you are using to drive the charge pump will be limited in frequency, voltage, and current as dictated by the power supply and other amp design factors no matter the feedback.  But one thing will be certain, the amplifier output will be COP<1 and by a goodly amount if the design is analog.  Even with class D, the efficiency will be <100%.  So IMO, this element does not provide any source of gain or if it does and I'm missing it, I would like to have it explained.

So what is the gain mechanism, the High-Q multiplier and what is creating the "spikes"?

Sorry, just trying to understand!

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GK,

Yeah the 2003 is class AB

What is required to get the full feedback effect in terms of voltage and current to the aerials?

I have some high voltage 500v very low current MOSFETS that switch very easily and fast, barely any gate capacitance close to subminiture vac tubes specwise.

If you are using a speaker I have no doubt you have a thump.  There are places one does not venture without enough subwoofer.

But I am a bit confused, you say with the addition of audio, are you driving the antennas with the TDA2003 also, or only an additional speaker?

Can the TDA2003 handle the kick or does it shoot through dead?
I have positioned the tda2003 in many distances with many volume settings. It just runs with out any problem.Here is one of my paths to use the self oscillation. All of the connections I have tested in the past.
One of my suspicions is SM used pager motors as amplifier outputs. This would present a gyroscopic artifact to the operation.The gyroscopic or jogging would have been noticed in the monophonic units. The polyphonic LTPU was never rotated.
SM held a clamp on ampere meter near the center toroids. The obvious place to show where the activity is coming from.
There are no ground connections shown or complete circuit loops on purpose. This diagram shows the block operations in module form.The dual toroids in upper left are what intrigued me about the Class D amp. Members had posted about this circuit before.I thought I would pursue that avenue.Boss Audio mono amp. The output stage is top left, the output chokes are the two yellow toroids underneath.


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So what is the gain mechanism, the High-Q multiplier and what is creating the "spikes"?

My personal supposition is that the gain mechanism is due to parametric variation inside the iron wire.

Permeable iron will absorb a certain amount of magnetic flux from a nearby resonating coil, lets assume an iron core of 10mH storing 1a of flux, totaling 0.005 joules.

When the iron wire is pulsed, current flows inside orthogonally, which decreases the permeability of the iron.  At peak current lets say the inductance is only 1mh, which is only able to store 0.0005 joules of magnetic flux.  The remaining 0.0045 joules are 'ejected' from the iron core.

We can then deduce watts from joules-per-second.  If these permeability-altering pulses occur 1000 times per sec,  then we arrive at (0.0045 joules * 1000hz) / 1 sec = 4.5 watts.

Rather than pushing/pulling against a ferromagnetic core, we're making the core 'disappear' by saturating it.  This takes energy, but the energy required to induce the change no longer correlates with the energy leaving the transformer.  And most of the energy required to induce the parametric change can be recovered afterward.  Cause and effect are 'decoupled' from each-other.


Energy production by parametric variation is mathematically analogous to changing the spring constant of a spring as it is being compressed/expanded, or changing the mass of an object as it is being lifted/dropped.  It makes sense on paper and works in most circuit simulators, but whether it work in practice is yet-to-be-seen..


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PeterAE (on this forum) reproduced the iron delay and subsequent pulse according to Spherics' directions.
He has a topic about here somewhere.

Energia Celeste also used a similar approach, even patented a couple of devices, but went silent after that.

The compressed pulse occurs around 220ns delay. 
The pulse messes with everything and is quite problematic.

Poynt99 was able to simulate the circuit and pulse in Spice, also on this forum somewhere.
   

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PeterAE (on this forum) reproduced the iron delay and subsequent pulse according to Spherics' directions.
He has a topic about here somewhere.

Energia Celeste also used a similar approach, even patented a couple of devices, but went silent after that.

The compressed pulse occurs around 220ns delay. 
The pulse messes with everything and is quite problematic.

Poynt99 was able to simulate the circuit and pulse in Spice, also on this forum somewhere.
Wasnt this the companion pulse, you, Jason and I worked on?It is like a single echo of an very short emp.


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Wasnt this the companion pulse, you, Jason and I worked on?It is like a single echo of an very short emp.

That's the one!
https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=37.0

check this post out: 1012ns and Boom!
https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=37.msg803#msg803
   
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Ah, my bad!!! Sorry!

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That's the one!
https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=37.0

check this post out: 1012ns and Boom!
https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=37.msg803#msg803
Yep. You flick reality just right and you get disciplined.
I got the setup going and Jason wanted to create an automated controller.
We tried but there were design errors and it didnt turn out so well. At that time he was also trying get into his new adult life in gear so we dropped any further efforts.
Back to the companion pulse: There seems to be an impact point where the surrounding atomic medium responds. Single wire or air coil doesn't matter which. The impact seems to dislodge some balance which causes severe perturbations. Tesla mentioned this. I also believe this is how TTBrown achieved electrogravitic propulsion. Its all tied together on this one artifact.My stance is this is the one thing that matters and all anomalous effects are this one thing but just achieved with numerous setups.A strong resonance gently massages this wall, so to speak and it responds.
The goal is get this to bounce continuously like Peter saw.
 No doubt a snubbed resonant charge pump is the captivation engine which I believe is the TPU.

This is a capacitor...

 What do you want to bet these are related?
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I need a sine wave chirp protocol and am looking for any ideas.
I have 4 Jason Owens SSRBs but the inputs are digital and the base freq of 4.29 just passes through the FETS.
A 555 sine wave gen is ok as the stability is not a concern.
I can flip flop enable it for the chirp.
Why do I ask here?
Because there are always better answers from others.


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The power grid operated producing sine waves always supplies electrons in a smooth delivery which will produce a COP<1 because there is no high frequency impact on any metal medium.
This is what keeps the citizen tied to an energy bill as the environment is not excited with resonance but merely pushing and pulling a magnetic rotor consuming the passing electron flow which is the measurement by which the bill to be paid is calculated.

The spark gap technology shows different. The surrounding metallic medium including the additive resonantly generated magnetic field can easily be pressurized at the speed of <c and when released the pressure of return is greater >c, i.e. COP>1.

What needs to be addressed is the ratio of flux volume impact returning to a conductor compared to the pressure energy needed to push the flux outward.

A low power sine is used to build the field then the high potential emp is implemented within that field to 'disrupt' and the kinetic impact upon return / incoming flux back to resonance is collected.

A gap of iron powder or keeper will allow coherence for self sustaining resonance, i.e. permanent magnetic current holder.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuAZFe4HNMw
All need to absorb what Patrick states in the 4 categories of the vid. He spells it all out.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/10Fmwn0PvRQ04pKLlt0ttZC287hVRg5B1
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I'd rather have a grid that provides me with real energy with COP<1 than virtual energy with COP>1.

Virtual energy with COP>1 can't run a washing machine, which is a pity, but it can run discussions which, unfortunately, are not virtual.

Donald Lee Smith C.C.  The funny thing is that those who claim to know the secrets of COP>1 energy use and pay for COP<1 energy to produce their websites or videos, as subscribers to the power grid.


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