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stprue	TPU Back to the Basics ~JT Varient~ « on: 2009-12-30, 13:47:55 »
Full Member Posts: 209	I think I will start back at the basics I will replicate this when I get a chance! P.S. If anyone else has basic setpus like this please post them here ~Stew Concept #1 http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-1815461677597553845&ei=S6c6S_aPDs6z-AbGhuAc&q=tpu&hl=en&view=3# « Last Edit: 2009-12-31, 18:16:05 by stprue »

poynt99	Re: TPU Back to the Basics « Reply #1 on: 2009-12-30, 13:55:56 »
Group: Administrator Hero Member Posts: 3217 It's not as complicated as it may seem...	Hi Stew. It's your basic "Joule Thief" .99 --------------------------- "Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe." Frank Zappa

stprue	Re: TPU Back to the Basics « Reply #2 on: 2009-12-30, 14:47:55 »
Full Member Posts: 209	How is it blinking for so long? I have mabe many JT's but if I disconect AA power it stops! P.S. Wasn't there a micro TPU test at OU.com a while ago?

poynt99	Re: TPU Back to the Basics « Reply #3 on: 2009-12-30, 15:04:53 »
Group: Administrator Hero Member Posts: 3217 It's not as complicated as it may seem...	Stew, The circuit is first charged with a battery, then when the battery is removed, it runs off the large electrolytic capacitor. With the slow flash rate of the LED as shown, that cap would last quite some time, and the circuit itself requires little current to operate. This is a variation of the Joule Thief, in that the LED is pulsed rather than ON steady as in most. .99 --------------------------- "Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe." Frank Zappa

stprue	Re: TPU Back to the Basics « Reply #4 on: 2009-12-30, 15:14:19 »
Full Member Posts: 209	Understood and thank you for the info's ! I will still build this so I can see the concept in action since I have not seen it in the JT thread at ou.com. Now that I think about it it looks like the small blinker TPU that Bruce made a while ago!!!

stprue	Re: TPU Back to the Basics « Reply #5 on: 2009-12-30, 22:22:04 »
Full Member Posts: 209	*Even better 2007 EMdevice stuff* http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=3599.0 Here is the link for those of you that are interested!

szaxx	Re: TPU Back to the Basics « Reply #6 on: 2009-12-30, 23:06:29 »
Sr. Member Posts: 276	Hi All, First post here .Thanks for the welcome. yes there was an thread in OU.Com, I followed it and built a blocking oscillator using all the BEMF to drop power however it flashed every 5 secs or so but used .2 U amps. trying to get the OU but typically failed... I know much more now and different project on the cards at present. EEing since 1969 and have a a clue or 2 with wires etc.

Allcanadian	Re: TPU Back to the Basics « Reply #7 on: 2009-12-31, 00:56:41 »
Hero Member Posts: 2735	@poynt99 Quote The circuit is first charged with a battery, then when the battery is removed, it runs off the large electrolytic capacitor. With the slow flash rate of the LED as shown, that cap would last quite some time, and the circuit itself requires little current to operate. This is a variation of the Joule Thief, in that the LED is pulsed rather than ON steady as in most. I think it may help to use the technical term for this circuit, it is in fact a self oscillating boost converter. As well if you follow lineage of the circuit you will find the "joule thief" patent is pre-dated by other patents by more than 30 years, as such the joule thief patent should never have been granted in the first place. As Albert Einstein once said---"The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." Regards AC --------------------------- Comprehend and Copy Nature... Viktor Schauberger “The first principle is that you must not fool yourself and you are the easiest person to fool.”― Richard P. Feynman

stprue	Re: TPU Back to the Basics « Reply #8 on: 2009-12-31, 01:53:45 »
Full Member Posts: 209	Quote from: szaxx on 2009-12-30, 23:06:29 Hi All, First post here .Thanks for the welcome. yes there was an thread in OU.Com, I followed it and built a blocking oscillator using all the BEMF to drop power however it flashed every 5 secs or so but used .2 U amps. trying to get the OU but typically failed... I know much more now and different project on the cards at present. EEing since 1969 and have a a clue or 2 with wires etc. It's good to have you on board szaxx...I unfortunately missed the topic and didn't even start looking at OU.com until later 2008. Anyways I look forward to your contributions!

poynt99	Re: TPU Back to the Basics « Reply #9 on: 2009-12-31, 02:14:06 »
Group: Administrator Hero Member Posts: 3217 It's not as complicated as it may seem...	Quote from: allcanadian on 2009-12-31, 00:56:41 @poynt99 Quote The circuit is first charged with a battery, then when the battery is removed, it runs off the large electrolytic capacitor. With the slow flash rate of the LED as shown, that cap would last quite some time, and the circuit itself requires little current to operate. This is a variation of the Joule Thief, in that the LED is pulsed rather than ON steady as in most. I think it may help to use the technical term for this circuit, it is in fact a self oscillating boost converter. As well if you follow lineage of the circuit you will find the "joule thief" patent is pre-dated by other patents by more than 30 years, as such the joule thief patent should never have been granted in the first place. As Albert Einstein once said---"The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." Regards AC Indeed AC. Those were my ill-received sentiments as well, as I had posted them at OU. Regards, .99 --------------------------- "Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe." Frank Zappa

Allcanadian	Re: TPU Back to the Basics « Reply #10 on: 2009-12-31, 16:20:24 »
Hero Member Posts: 2735	@poynt99 Quote Indeed AC. Those were my ill-received sentiments as well, as I had posted them at OU I enjoy the research as much as building and experiments and the actual time lines of any given technology can be quite interesting. As well many technologies follow a wave like pattern in time, in that a technology will be discovered and disclosed with much interest then get lost in other technologies and time. Next it will be rediscovered as a variant of the original or as the original technology and variants produced and so the technology propagates through time being discovered and rediscovered most often with the inventors claiming the technology was their discovery alone, which of course is seldom the case. In fact most all of the so-called discoveries claimed in the forums have origins in America and England from the late 1800's to the early 1900's, lol. Such is life and the propensity of the human ego to defy reality for personal glory, some day we will learn our lesson----maybe---- I hope. Regards AC --------------------------- Comprehend and Copy Nature... Viktor Schauberger “The first principle is that you must not fool yourself and you are the easiest person to fool.”― Richard P. Feynman

stprue	Re: TPU Back to the Basics « Reply #11 on: 2009-12-31, 17:45:36 »
Full Member Posts: 209	That's why I started this topic...even though it could probably go in the other topics at this forum. I missed this stuff but the concept seems very useful to me anyways. The topic at ou seemed to die out after a while but I think this circuit or a variant could still be improved much more! So here we are! ~Stew

poynt99	Re: TPU Back to the Basics « Reply #12 on: 2009-12-31, 18:02:41 »
Group: Administrator Hero Member Posts: 3217 It's not as complicated as it may seem...	Here's the Joule Thief thread in case anyone missed it: .99 --------------------------- "Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe." Frank Zappa

stprue	Re: TPU Back to the Basics ~JT Varient~ « Reply #13 on: 2009-12-31, 18:18:07 »
Full Member Posts: 209	Wise guy This location seems to be a better place...I agree

Allcanadian	Re: TPU Back to the Basics ~JT Varient~ « Reply #14 on: 2010-01-01, 01:21:18 »
Hero Member Posts: 2735	@Everyone By my count I have about 6 hours and 8 or so rye and coke until new years so I will sign off for this year and wish all of you a happy new year. Regards AC --------------------------- Comprehend and Copy Nature... Viktor Schauberger “The first principle is that you must not fool yourself and you are the easiest person to fool.”― Richard P. Feynman

poynt99	Re: TPU Back to the Basics ~JT Varient~ « Reply #15 on: 2010-01-01, 01:45:03 »
Group: Administrator Hero Member Posts: 3217 It's not as complicated as it may seem...	Cheers AC. Good to have you here. Let's make this a great year guys! .99 --------------------------- "Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe." Frank Zappa

the_big_m_in_ok	Re: TPU Back to the Basics ~JT Varient~ « Reply #16 on: 2010-04-15, 00:20:26 »
Group: Guest	Quote from: stprue on 2009-12-30, 13:47:55 I think I will start back at the basics Concept #1 http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-1815461677597553845&ei=S6c6S_aPDs6z-AbGhuAc&q=tpu&hl=en&view=3# This link bounces back as being "unavailable for viewing", unfortunately. Was it seen by others earlier? --Lee « Last Edit: 2010-07-14, 21:23:03 by the_big_m_in_ok »

stprue	Re: TPU Back to the Basics ~JT Varient~ « Reply #17 on: 2010-04-15, 00:28:08 »
Full Member Posts: 209	Not sure what happened! It use to work! Anyway it was something along the lines of this! [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQr9vLxs7lM[/youtube] Not my video...sorry for the music

Turbo	Re: TPU Back to the Basics ~JT Varient~ « Reply #18 on: 2010-04-15, 19:47:21 »
Group: Guest	Quote from: poynt99 on 2010-01-01, 01:45:03 Let's make this a great year guys! .99 A great year? This crap will go on FOREVER!!!! over and over and over again

Grumpy	Re: TPU Back to the Basics ~JT Varient~ « Reply #19 on: 2010-04-15, 20:47:44 »
Group: Tinkerer Hero Member Posts: 3948 tExB=qr	Quote from: Turbo on 2010-04-15, 19:47:21 A great year? This crap will go on FOREVER!!!! over and over and over again or not as the case may be...

stprue	Re: TPU Back to the Basics ~JT Varient~ « Reply #20 on: 2010-04-15, 21:47:57 »
Full Member Posts: 209	Sorry for keeping it going I was just replying to a question!

Turbo	Re: TPU Back to the Basics ~JT Varient~ « Reply #21 on: 2010-04-15, 22:37:04 »
Group: Guest	Quote from: Grumpy on 2010-04-15, 20:47:44 or not as the case may be... oh really? WOW!!!!!! Where is it? Can we see it? Did you make it in your barn?

poynt99	Re: TPU Back to the Basics ~JT Varient~ « Reply #22 on: 2010-04-16, 00:52:52 »
Group: Administrator Hero Member Posts: 3217 It's not as complicated as it may seem...	What's the issue here? I hope we do have a good year. I'm sorry I have not been able to really start up with my research yet, but it won't be too much longer. marco, you've got super high standards, and there's nothing wrong with that. However, there's no harm in allowing things to just flow as they will for others here, right? Please try to refrain from denigrating the work or interests of others here. We don't all agree as to what is the best or most logical path to take in search of Free Energy, and that's fine, but at least accept and respect the fact that there are other views, and they will differ. Thanks, Darren --------------------------- "Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe." Frank Zappa

Turbo	Re: TPU Back to the Basics ~JT Varient~ « Reply #23 on: 2010-04-16, 01:05:40 »
Group: Guest	I suppose by a good year you mean a year with good results. When i think of good results i think of something that will bring me further, thus showing results. This is not going to happen with the device that is mentioned in the topic title because this device isn't going to give us a good year. In fact like i said, this device will go on forever, simply because of a man who needed some money and decided to rip off investors. So in my eyes there is no issue here other then this man trying to fool us and me trying to warn others about it. No denigrating , it's just a warning in the hope to make others concider what i just mentioned. I know the books this so called inventor has been reading and i know where he got all the clues he used. He adopted it to his own little story and it sounds very valid , because the elements he used came from another inventor which indeed build a working device. .

poynt99	Re: TPU Back to the Basics ~JT Varient~ « Reply #24 on: 2010-04-16, 01:19:32 »
Group: Administrator Hero Member Posts: 3217 It's not as complicated as it may seem...	marco, "A good year" to me means "progress", and that has quite a broad definition: everything from learning, discovering, testing, validating, discussing, designing, building, etc. etc. Achieving any degree of OU would be ideal, but in my books not being able to do so doesn't kill the entire year making it a "bad" one. Your comments are noted, and I respect them of course. Your warning is also duly noted. However, folks will likely act according to their own interpretation and beliefs as to what is worthwhile research I suppose. So be it. No one knows with 100% certainty which device or technology is most promising, nor if OU is even possible. That leaves us with quite an open book with hardly any rules, and perhaps more to the good as such. Darren --------------------------- "Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe." Frank Zappa

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