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e2matrix

Free Energy Generator For Sale « on: 2024-07-03, 03:36:24 »

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Fully built free energy generators for sale or you can buy plans but the plans cost almost as much as the 1Kw unit.

This is what you all have been waiting for .... Except it's probably a scam. But just because it sounds too good to be true doesn't mean it is

Here's what they offer - a 1 kilowatt unit for $1250 which includes shipping from China. A 3 killowatt unit for $2550, a 5 kilowatt for $2850, a 30 kilowatt for $4550 and a 250 kilowatt for $12500.

It all sounded fairly good (but some big RED FLAGS were already waving) in looking at the website that shows they take PayPal and Visa and other credit cards on the product page because if that was true then I know as a very long time PayPal user I would get my money back if it was a scam.

But still being highly skeptical I chose to put the 1 KW unit in the cart and go through a checkout procedure using all fake credentials to see if they actually do take PayPal or credit cards. I did explain in the purchase notes I was doing this simply to find out if they take PayPal or Visa. As I suspected there was NO option to use PayPal or a credit card and the only payment method accepted was bank transfer. The procedure went through showing payment details below (I've x'd out the actual numbers and I don't even know what IBAN or BIC is):

Our bank details
Rasha Ahammed:
BANK:
iFAST Global Bank, 9th Floor, Sierra Quebec Bravo, 77 Marsh Wall, London E14 9SH
ACCOUNT NUMBER:
XXXXXXX
ROUTING NUMBER:
xxxxxxxx
IBAN:
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
BIC:
xxxxxxxxxxx

So unless you are very wealthy and have money to throw away on a likely scam I suggest NOT sending them any money. However I'd like to dig a little bit deeper into this just on the very limited chance it could be real. If anyone is in London that could be helpful if they could talk to this bank to see if this account is getting a lot of refund requests or any info on Rasha Ahammed. You can easily get the account info by doing the procedure I used (I'd suggest using a VPN) and if there are any other ways to get more info on this person and website that would be helpful I checked ICANN Whois and the website has been up since 2022. They claim they have sold many units and there are what appear fairly honest reviews on the website with a few somewhat negative remarks but it still could all be fake.
Oh yes the website

I saved that for last

https://inventorsltd.com

PhysicsProf

Re: Free Energy Generator For Sale « Reply #1 on: 2024-07-03, 16:18:29 »

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Quote from: e2matrix on 2024-07-03, 03:36:24

Fully built free energy generators for sale or you can buy plans but the plans cost almost as much as the 1Kw unit.

This is what you all have been waiting for .... Except it's probably a scam. But just because it sounds too good to be true doesn't mean it is Here's what they offer - a 1 kilowatt unit for $1250 which includes shipping from China. A 3 killowatt unit for $2550, a 5 kilowatt for $2850, a 30 kilowatt for $4550 and a 250 kilowatt for $12500.

It all sounded fairly good (but some big RED FLAGS were already waving) in looking at the website that shows they take PayPal and Visa and other credit cards on the product page because if that was true then I know as a very long time PayPal user I would get my money back if it was a scam.

But still being highly skeptical I chose to put the 1 KW unit in the cart and go through a checkout procedure using all fake credentials to see if they actually do take PayPal or credit cards. I did explain in the purchase notes I was doing this simply to find out if they take PayPal or Visa. As I suspected there was NO option to use PayPal or a credit card and the only payment method accepted was bank transfer. The procedure went through showing payment details below (I've x'd out the actual numbers and I don't even know what IBAN or BIC is):

Our bank details
Rasha Ahammed:
BANK:
iFAST Global Bank, 9th Floor, Sierra Quebec Bravo, 77 Marsh Wall, London E14 9SH
ACCOUNT NUMBER:
XXXXXXX
ROUTING NUMBER:
xxxxxxxx
IBAN:
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
BIC:
xxxxxxxxxxx

So unless you are very wealthy and have money to throw away on a likely scam I suggest NOT sending them any money. However I'd like to dig a little bit deeper into this just on the very limited chance it could be real. If anyone is in London that could be helpful if they could talk to this bank to see if this account is getting a lot of refund requests or any info on Rasha Ahammed. You can easily get the account info by doing the procedure I used (I'd suggest using a VPN) and if there are any other ways to get more info on this person and website that would be helpful I checked ICANN Whois and the website has been up since 2022. They claim they have sold many units and there are what appear fairly honest reviews on the website with a few somewhat negative remarks but it still could all be fake.
Oh yes the website I saved that for last https://inventorsltd.com

I went to the site and saw the short video.
Interesting... They claim a money-back guarantee.

So I'd probably be willing to put in 25% ($317 for the 1kW unit), wishing to participate in testing somehow...
It might be worth getting the plans for $850 - certainly so, if we can demonstrate that it works.

PhysicsProf	Re: Free Energy Generator For Sale « Reply #2 on: 2024-07-03, 16:31:02 »
Group: Professor Hero Member Posts: 3028	He has a new video out, 3 weeks ago. Actually looks intriguing imo... He starts it and it speeds up "on its own." When he loads it with a fan and a grinder, then it slows a bit (judging by the sounds). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4KVijkAPew

Aking.21

Re: Free Energy Generator For Sale « Reply #3 on: 2024-07-03, 17:15:15 »

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The principle of operation seems to be the two elastic fittings. This could easily be replicated on a small scale using a 3-D printer and elastic bands.
No need for plans.
Anyhow, it is obvious to me that the "generator" is an electric motor powering everything.
A hidden mains connection beneath the device or the fan will do the job.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4KVijkAPew
In fact, you can see the cable beneath the device.

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Electrostatic induction: Put a 1KV charge on 1 plate of a capacitor. What does the environment do to the 2nd plate?

PhysicsProf	Re: Free Energy Generator For Sale « Reply #4 on: 2024-07-03, 18:24:50 »
Group: Professor Hero Member Posts: 3028	This builder tries a similar build, says it does NOT work ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zf50Zb98mtQ

Grumage

Re: Free Energy Generator For Sale « Reply #5 on: 2024-07-03, 19:31:51 »

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There’s dozens of these videos circulating on Facebook…. I even knocked up a small unit using elastic bands. It DOES NOT WORK .
It would be nice to find out how they’re faked however.

Cheers Graham.

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Nanny state ? Left at the gate !!

e2matrix	Re: Free Energy Generator For Sale « Reply #6 on: 2024-07-03, 22:42:43 »
Sr. Member Posts: 352	I always thought there may be something to the Chaz Campbell concept as seen in Patrick Kelly's Free Energy book. It appeared to me anyway it was an honest person that had something which when setup just right may work. A.King - I've got a very large computer monitor and it appears to me what you mentioned as being a cable under the device is actually a crack in the flooring and it also seems to only run under the middle of the device. What actually seemed most impressive to me was the part of the video when he did not yet have the generator attached and there was only the (motorcycle or bike) wheel and the two bungies attached and he spun it up at which point it seemed to even speed up a bit and kept running. I couldn't see any deception there but that's not to say there isn't some way to fake it. The alternating bungies at a certain angle is not something I recall seeing anywhere before to keep a flywheel spinning. If that is the basis for his generators I question what type of stretchy material could hold up running non-stop for years. And again anyone who will only take a bank transfer is a method I'd be concerned with as there is little or no recourse to get your money back if it's a scam. In reviewing his video again when he spins it up by hand and it appears to speed up before he had the generator attached it is possible he may have had a motor with a pulley, gear or something similar up against the tire at the bottom of the screen as a small part of the tire is conveniently out of the video so there may have been someone holding a motor against it to speed it up and keep it going. And as a final thought my physics intuition thinks the opposing bungies are not by their self enough to keep the flywheel spinning, after all where would the excess energy come from? A couple other videos of similar setups seem to only show the flywheel slowing down. So if this is the basis of their free energy generators for sale then I would not consider buying one.

Aking.21	Re: Free Energy Generator For Sale « Reply #7 on: 2024-07-04, 04:45:18 »
Sr. Member Posts: 483	Quote from: e2matrix on 2024-07-03, 22:42:43 A.King - I've got a very large computer monitor and it appears to me what you mentioned as being a cable under the device is actually a crack in the flooring and it also seems to only run under the middle of the device. Looks like a wire to me. See photo. All he needs to do is power the device with his so-called generator and it's so easy it's not even a mystery. Remember a generator is also a motor. He is probably hoping for a million or more views to make money from YouTube. The other way to work this scam is to spin the wheel until it stops, then reverse the video. In any case, you can make a small model using rubber bands. A lot of patios have wiring under them to facilitate patio lighting - hence the cracks. ------------------------ Free Energy Generator For Sale wire.png (1996.69 kB, 1366x768 - viewed 720 times.) --------------------------- Electrostatic induction: Put a 1KV charge on 1 plate of a capacitor. What does the environment do to the 2nd plate?

broli

Re: Free Energy Generator For Sale « Reply #8 on: 2024-07-04, 10:26:39 »

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I am going to warn people. Trying to be greedy off of "free energy" will only bring you very bad luck. Sure you can make a healthy and ethical business plan around it, but a business plan that is red taped by intellectual "property" or preys on customers is not it.

As for the people considering sponsoring someone's greedy business plan, you will only throw your money in a dark pit. You would be better off buying a good 3d printer for what is about to come.

As for the idea, yes it has merit. Something special happens when you apply a large torque very close to the center of an axle of a flywheel. But it is not the spring action of the rubber which ironically also helps but its the friction due to the bearings that can provide an asymmetrical force over time. It is child's play when you understand it but you are warned from all the charlatans that will start popping up that are willing to sell you the "secret" for a ridiculous sum. I dont even think they know themselves what the true nature is of their so called "free energy" machine.

I hope someone soon will share a working 3d printable prototype to protect people from greed because these type of ideas are not meant to make anyone rich but all.

hermes

Re: Free Energy Generator For Sale « Reply #9 on: 2024-12-17, 11:14:09 »

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From https://groups.io/g/EVGRAY

Hi All
My good friend Gary Porter passed away a few months ago, he was an very prolific and genius free energy machine builder I guess you could call him.

He made things without going overunity and loopers years and years ago.

I have known him for 25 years....I would put his skills and knowledge up there with Hector, or Bedini or Bill Muller. He that good .
He has a YouTube channel still up with 336 videos and here is one sample from 4 years ago a "vibrator" circuit that revolver backemf and ran forever.

https://youtu.be/kpI2W4lUjk8?si=4wYK5LE0C_5wGehj

This is very small sample of what he did. Click the the icon on video to get see his full channel to get idea. You will never see anything like it.

So his laboratory i going to be thrown out into dumpster probably January 1 if nobody wants to travel to Florida and grab all his stuff ,...I would guess $20K worth of testing gear and machines and materials if you were to take inventory
.
So I am putting this post up hoping someone will jump at getting everything in his storage shed before it all gets trashed.

Contact me here on EVGRAY or my email at konehead@msn.com if interested , I hope someone is, otherwise it's going to be a big shame...

I would take it all but I am already stuffed with stuff coming out my ears
Kone

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Re: Free Energy Generator For Sale « Reply #10 on: 2024-12-17, 18:42:16 »

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Can I wait until it all gets trashed ? And then I can got it.

e2matrix	Re: Free Energy Generator For Sale « Reply #11 on: 2024-12-22, 18:29:02 »
Sr. Member Posts: 352	Quote from: hermes on 2024-12-17, 11:14:09 From https://groups.io/g/EVGRAY Hi All My good friend Gary Porter passed away a few months ago, he was an very prolific and genius free energy machine builder I guess you could call him. He made things without going overunity and loopers years and years ago. I have known him for 25 years....I would put his skills and knowledge up there with Hector, or Bedini or Bill Muller. He that good . He has a YouTube channel still up with 336 videos and here is one sample from 4 years ago a "vibrator" circuit that revolver backemf and ran forever. https://youtu.be/kpI2W4lUjk8?si=4wYK5LE0C_5wGehj This is very small sample of what he did. Click the the icon on video to get see his full channel to get idea. You will never see anything like it. So his laboratory i going to be thrown out into dumpster probably January 1 if nobody wants to travel to Florida and grab all his stuff ,...I would guess $20K worth of testing gear and machines and materials if you were to take inventory . So I am putting this post up hoping someone will jump at getting everything in his storage shed before it all gets trashed. Contact me here on EVGRAY or my email at konehead@msn.com if interested , I hope someone is, otherwise it's going to be a big shame... I would take it all but I am already stuffed with stuff coming out my ears Kone Sorry to hear about Gary. Hope you are staying safe over there in your area of Europe Doug. Things seem tense right now over there but if things don't go crazy before Trump gets in office it will likely lighten up a lot once he's back in office.

Paul-R

Re: Free Energy Generator For Sale « Reply #12 on: 2024-12-22, 23:16:55 »

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Whereabouts in China are they?

If they are genuine, then they will respond favourably to the idea that they take their unit to a nearby university with an electrical engineering dept which is known internationally, and ask them to provide input/output data for simple resistive loads.

My guess is that they will refuse since they look as genuine as a nine pound note.

PhysicsProf	Re: Free Energy Generator For Sale « Reply #13 on: 2024-12-28, 21:33:46 »
Group: Professor Hero Member Posts: 3028	Quote from: hermes on 2024-12-17, 11:14:09 From https://groups.io/g/EVGRAY Hi All My good friend Gary Porter passed away a few months ago, he was an very prolific and genius free energy machine builder I guess you could call him. He made things without going overunity and loopers years and years ago. I have known him for 25 years....I would put his skills and knowledge up there with Hector, or Bedini or Bill Muller. He that good . He has a YouTube channel still up with 336 videos and here is one sample from 4 years ago a "vibrator" circuit that revolver backemf and ran forever. https://youtu.be/kpI2W4lUjk8?si=4wYK5LE0C_5wGehj This is very small sample of what he did. Click the the icon on video to get see his full channel to get idea. You will never see anything like it. So his laboratory i going to be thrown out into dumpster probably January 1 if nobody wants to travel to Florida and grab all his stuff ,...I would guess $20K worth of testing gear and machines and materials if you were to take inventory . So I am putting this post up hoping someone will jump at getting everything in his storage shed before it all gets trashed. Contact me here on EVGRAY or my email at konehead@msn.com if interested , I hope someone is, otherwise it's going to be a big shame... I would take it all but I am already stuffed with stuff coming out my ears Kone Hmmm... I'd like to help, but time before 1 January is so short! Where in Florida is this stuff, and are you SURE it is available for someone to acquire for further research purposes? I have in town here (Albany, Missouri) purchased a large building, that is about 7500 sq feet. Dry. Also, mostly unfinished basement (another 7500 sq ft). I'm storing things in it, including a small shop. But I have PLENTY of room left. If anyone can help TRANSPORT the things here, I would be HAPPY to store them. Also, to make them available to other researchers! There are SEVEN doors to this huge building, providing 7 separate (thus private) access portals. Pls let me know, 801-735-5885, text or phone is fine. I just can't get to Florida by 1 January, I think, as my wife needs me here (handicapped).