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Didn't know. thanks.
But if my electrolytic capacitor has standing without power supply during three years ?

I think the reason is as follows: a chemical capacitor must be polarized. If it isn't, it remains what it is: 2 electrodes in an electrolyte, so a potential battery with redox reactions.


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Russian secret methods for producing magnetic fluid from simple components:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhZxJzW5jrg
https://youtu.be/yr3iXa3ciSU?t=522
What is the magnetic permeability of magnetic fluids?
What if we made a transformer core from magnetic fluid?
   
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What is the magnetic permeability of magnetic fluids?
What if we made a transformer core from magnetic fluid?

I assume that the magnetic properties of the magnetic fluid are bad. The magnetic fluid  is needed not for transformers core, but for the integration of magnetic properties into cavity structures.
   
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About the interface between on-demand hydrogen and an electrical current source.
Interesting patents, on a different topic, but may be useful.

JP2006185638A Battery

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Reference Example 1:
 Preparation of H-type zeolite
 Clinoptiolite [Na 6 (Al 6 Si 10 O 72 ) · 24H 2 O] having a specific surface area of 18.0 m 2 / g was used as a raw material zeolite. This was immersed in a 5% saline solution for 60 minutes and then immersed in a 10% aqueous solution of citric acid for 60 minutes. The product was washed with water and dried to obtain H-type zeolite.

Reference Example 2:
 Production of Electrolytic Solution
The liquid of the present invention was produced using the apparatus shown in FIG.
1100 g of calcium hydroxide was charged into the container 10, and 10 liters of water and 2500 g of phosphoric acid were charged into the container 20. Both were mixed and supplied to the container 30. The contents in the container 30 were stirred at room temperature for 0.5 hours to be reacted. Thereafter, the contents of the container 30 were transferred to the container 40. The contents of the container 40 were supplied to the electrolysis unit 50 charged with 10 kg of H-type zeolite, and the effluent from the container 50 was returned to the container 40 and circulated. The voltage in the electrolysis unit was 18V and the current was 10A. The circulation was terminated when the current reached 20A. The product was filtered to obtain an electrolytic solution.

Example 3

The motor was run again for 80 minutes and charged for 15 minutes. Furthermore, when the motor was operated for 3 hours, the voltage dropped to 1.69V. When the load was stopped and the change in voltage was measured, the following results were obtained.

Time (minutes) 2 10 16
Voltage 1.7 1.73 1.75

It was confirmed that the voltage recovered by leaving the battery unattended.

JP2008270001A  Composition having electromotive force and power source unit such as power source cell

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When the above cells were regarded as one cell and five cells were connected in series, a power supply unit showing a current of 5 to 6 V and 100 mA was obtained.
When this power supply unit was connected to a white LED of 30 mA, 4.5 V, the lighting time lasted for about 200 hours.

After the power was consumed and the lighting was stopped, the water absorbent sheet was absorbed with water of about 20%. The light was then turned on again and the lighting time lasted for about 100 hours.
Re-lighting with hydration was realized repeatedly.

Composition having electromotive force and power source unit such as power source cell or the like and manufacturing method of the same
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  In the power cell of the present invention, a sheet of paper or cloth having ion exchange ability is used between the anode member and the cathode member, and the water absorbing member is placed in a desired position in the cell between the anode member and the cathode member. Since the electric power generated by the chemical reaction is consumed and the necessary electric energy is insufficient, a small amount of water is supplied to the water absorbing member between the anode member and the cathode member. By humidifying the moisture to about 20%, the absorbed moisture is electrolyzed into hydrogen ions and hydroxide ions by energization of the anode member and the cathode member, and the hydroxide ions gather at the anode member to generate a new electromotive force. Therefore, the power source cell is self-charged without requiring an external current, and the electromotive force is self-regenerated only by supplying a small amount of water.

   

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Therefore, the power source cell is self-charged without requiring an external current, and the electromotive force is self-regenerated only by supplying a small amount of water.
   
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Hello!

Searches about high efficiency Stirling engine and anaerobic engines.
Found something interesting.

Thermoacoustics.

But I'm interested in the source of the strong low-frequency acoustic vibrations. In this video, look from 6:27:

https://youtu.be/m0dEwC0i1zo?t=391

I've been looking for something like this for a long time. Air pump for pond aeration. I ordered a similar one, we'll see.

The next video by the same author shows an interesting method for generating electricity from the vibration of permanent magnets. The author did it quite well and effectively. Notice how weak the flame of the alcohol lamp is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2cTgt9WEBE
   
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Therefore, the power source cell is self-charged without requiring an external current, and the electromotive force is self-regenerated only by supplying a small amount of water.
(Surprised cat)

With Chet's help, we tried to find a Japanese inventor and invite him to the old Overunity forum.
But, as I understand, the inventor refused because he is busy with the business of producing emergency flashlights using this technology.  :'(
   
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Interesante Patent
GB1585527A PROCESS AND APPARATUS FOR GENERATING HYDROGEN AND OXYGEN FROM WATER
https://patents.google.com/patent/GB1585527A/en?oq=GB1585527A

Priorities US70274676A
Application GB2610177A
Publication GB1585527A
CENTURY MFG. Co.,  Nebraska:

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..a method of disassociating the hydrogen and the oxygen of steam in which the steam is applied to the surface of a catalyst of the type having a differing attraction for hydrogen and oxygen atoms, an electric or magnetic field is applied to the steam and to the catalyst or a magnetic field is provided by use of a magnetic catalyst, and the hydrogen and the oxygen is removed from the surface of the catalyst.

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EXAMPLE III
Steam under a pressure of 50 psi and temperature of 250"F was forced through 12 zirconium plated stainless steel screens all having a pulsating potential difference between alternate screens of 110 volt. The screens were 1/4 inch apart and were in a phenoilc tube having an inner diameter of 1/4 inch. At 50 psi a flame was obtained at the outlet of about 20 inches in length.

EXAMPLE IV
Steam under a pressure of 50 psi and the temperature of 250"F was forced through 12 zirconium plated stainless steel screens all having a potential difference between alternate screens of 6 volts DC. The screens are 1/4 inch apart and were in a phenolic tube having an inner diameter of 1/4 inch. At 50 psi a flame was obtained at the outlet of about 20 inches in length.
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EXAMPLE VII
Steam from a pressure vessel was heated in a coil and passed through a mixture of magnetized magnetite, CeO, Eu2O3 and
GdO. The vapor output was ignited and burned for 10 minutes with a blue flame.

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According to one aspect of the present invention there is provided a method of disassociating the hydrogen and the oxygen of steam in which the steam is applied to the surface of a catalyst of the type having a differing attraction for hydrogen and oxygen atoms, an electric or magnetic field is applied to the steam and to the catalyst or a magnetic field is provided by use of a magnetic catalyst, and the hydrogen and the oxygen is removed from the surface of the catalyst.
I would like to know ,what kind of catalysator is,a catalyst that breaks the very strong  bonds between hydrogen and oxygen.
   
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I would like to know ,what kind of catalysator is,a catalyst that breaks the very strong  bonds between hydrogen and oxygen.

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Me too …
Side note:
We have now Beryllium water dissasociation claim “ Mr. Howard guy”
Also Sam Leach, lithium Nitrate 20ppm in water at 500 psi ( sold to budget car rental and shelved .
Edit on Sam Leach claim
We have open source builder who has this replication on his “to do list”
Also others trying to sort “Mr.Howard’s “ Beryllium claim ( how to test)

 I have a question for Sergh ( if appropriate, if not no worries)

Over at Kapanadze thread you mentioned some coating ( on walls ..?
Can you explain more about this “suggestion “?

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With Chet's help, we tried to find a Japanese inventor and invite him to the old Overunity forum.
But, as I understand, the inventor refused because he is busy with the business of producing emergency flashlights using this technology.  :'(
Another example of Kapanadze's law


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Electrostatic induction: Put a 1KV charge on 1 plate of a capacitor. What does the environment do to the 2nd  plate?
   
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I have a question for Sergh ( if appropriate, if not no worries)

Over at Kapanadze thread you mentioned some coating ( on walls ..?
Can you explain more about this “suggestion “?

Hello, Chet!

I meant white transparent opalescent stains on the glass of the aquarium.
Something like this can be obtained if you wash the window glass after painting the ceiling with chalk white or other renovation of the room.
These white stains are also present in other videos, but are only visible in scratches on the glass. Probably the glass was wiped more thoroughly or the video has less details than the photo.

Source of this images:
https://001-lab.at.ua/forum/2-11-265-16-1344536507
   
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Another example of Kapanadze's law

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Economical generator Kapanadze.., if we knew what it is, but we don't know what it is. It may be useless for Kapanadze to publicate the principle, since replication is impossible for DIY.
In the video “Green Box” we see components with a total cost of $10. Kapanadze then announced the cost of the generator in the future, with mass production, at $400. This means that at that time it was much more expensive. And if some unusual components are used that are not publicly available?

Tariel Kapanadze's patent number 2007_00996 from the Turkish patent database:
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2- istem l’e göre bir bağımsız eneıji cihazı olup, özelliği; başlangıç eneıji kaynağından (15)
elektriği alarak, platine (3) aktaran kondansatörü (2) içermesidir.
3- İstem l’e göre bir bağımsız enerji cihazı olup, özelliği; yüksek frekans jeneratörünün (4)
ihtiyaç duyduğu frekansı aktaran platin (3) içermesidir.

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..platin (3) yüksek frekans jeneratörüne (4) elektrik vermesini sağlar.

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2-It is an independent energy device according to claim 1, and its feature is; from the starting energy source (15)
It contains the capacitor (2) that receives electricity and transfers it to the platinum (3).
 3-It is an independent energy device according to claim 1, and its feature is; of the high frequency generator (4)
It contains platinum (3) that transmits the frequency it needs.

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..The platinum (3) provides electricity to the high frequency generator (4).

in another Patent Kapanadze this device, similar by place to device (3) in turkei patent, named as kapacitor or as "point"

What is the "platinum"? Catalyst? How much is needed in a Kapanadze 5 kilowatt generator?
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Since we're talking about white residue and potential substances that might have helped Kapanadze achieve what he did... has anyone considered what effect Potassium alum (KAl(SO4)2·12H2O) might have when exposed to a HV field?

I recall something that Tito said in the Energy Amplification thread over at overunity.com:

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and don't forget to add some KAL(SO4)2.12H2O at the HV portion.  8) :)

Might be nothing, might be something....
   
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Hi Sergh,

Here is a Turkish - English online dictionary for the Turkish word   platin  and it includes several additional technical meanings of the word: https://tureng.com/en/turkish-english/platin
Perhaps, just perhaps there is an expression better fitting into the English text.  (I do not speak Turkish.)   

For instance,  platin may mean technically  contact breaking point.   C.C

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Yes, that's possible. There is one person who can explain this. Metin Türk, native Turkish speaker. Who can contact him?

https://www.turkpatent.gov.tr/en/research?form=patent
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Metin Turk is the owner of the company TMZ Turkey, who helped file the patents and organized this presentation in 2007.
After that, Kapanadze had a falling out with him and the collaboration ended.
Probably Metin TÜRK could tell a lot of new things about the Kapanadze generator.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92I5Xpmq_NQ
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If we use acoustic stirling without moving parts for getting vibration of pressure upper your ceolite?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2cTgt9WEBE&pp=ygUb0LHQtdC70LXRhtC60LjQuSDQuNCz0L7RgNGM
   
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Based on the results of some experiments, I assume that the main role in obtaining hydrogen from zeolite at low pressure and high temperature is played by the presence of calcium hydroxide integrated into the crystal lattice of zeolite 5A, also known as Ca-A zeolite, is a type of molecular sieve with a pore size of 5 Angstroms.
An experiment with Lithium-exchanged zeolites has preliminarily shown the absence of significant hydrogen release.
This coincides with information from patents, where calcium hydroxide is supposed to be used. Hydrogen release occurs with lime, but several times less than with calcium zeolite.

I conducted an experiment by cycling the pressure in a hot reactor. The pressure varied from -98 kPa to 1.2 MPa (about 12 bar). I noticed an improvement in hydrogen release of about 50 percent.

Current status: low efficiency, not covering energy costs.

I will publish here a couple of dialogues with ChatGPT, which in principle confirm this direction of research and experiments:

ChatGPT_Calcium_Water_Dissociation.pdf - This file is about conventional hydrogen production using lime hydroxide, and does not concern on free energy.

ChatGPT_Quantum_Water_Dissociation1.pdf - This file is about the possibility of obtaining free energy from quantum effects, producing energy from a vacuum.
   

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ChatGPT_Quantum_Water_Dissociation1.pdf - This file is about the possibility of obtaining free energy from quantum effects, producing energy from a vacuum.

You're right on both counts. In QM, ZPE is accepted. The problem is getting energy out of it, since it is supposed to be the minimum level of this ambient energy.  So, a priori, you can't lower the ZPE level to extract the difference.
   
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Do you think that the energy of reproducing space in time is small? Probably the visualization of this energy in our reality is small, we see only a small part, the tip of the iceberg.

And even this small level of ambient energy, what kind of energy flux does it have? Can it be spent or is it reproduced instantly? Is it possible to consume this small energy with a very high frequency?  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_flux

Let's say you have a magic box, and every time you open it you find 1 cent in it. Think about it, what is the use of this? And if you open such a box 100 million times a second?

But what about the small level of this energy? This level can be increased due to resonance in nanocavities. Casimir effect in a dielectric cavity of subatomic size.

All that remains is to drag the burnt fuel into these cavities, set the appropriate mode, and pull out the separated components from them.
   
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@sergh

You presented energy as an absolute reality, which is completely inaccurate. Energy depends on the frame of reference, so it can be neither the iceberg nor the tip of the iceberg. If you're traveling at 1000 km/h in a spaceship, its kinetic energy relative to you is zero, while it's enormous for an observer on Earth.
Energy is simply the useful work that can be recovered from a process that reduces the state of a system when another benefits from it and the energy of the whole remains constant. And of course, we want to be on the side of the system that benefits.

Obviously, the idea of a quantum nanoprocess providing a tiny amount of energy that could be repeated in a very rapid cycle and/or integrated on a large scale to provide useful energy is a good one. However, we still need to be sure that we actually gain energy from a single nanoprocess over a single cycle, and that the system from which this energy is drawn is refilled from a source that is virtually inexhaustible on a human scale. The ZPE seems to address the second point. But I have serious doubts that the Casimr effect can provide work over a cycle, since it takes as much energy to push the plates apart as the effect provides when they approach each other.

Finally, over a fixed period of time, a resonance does not increase the total energy level involved; it is not a multiplication, but an accumulation. At each cycle a small amount of energy is added to the system, but the total energy gained will never be greater than the sum of the energy of a single cycle over the number of cycles performed. Unlike increasing the cycle rate or the number of processes, a resonance does not increase energy but stores it. Its interest is simply practical, we can thus have accumulated energy to release it in a shorter time and obtain much more power than that at the origin of the resonance, but for a much shorter time, and no more energy.


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Well this is very interesting concerning this subject.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atGD9dIgYgg



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Finally, over a fixed period of time, a resonance does not increase the total energy level involved; it is not a multiplication, but an accumulation. At each cycle a small amount of energy is added to the system, but the total energy gained will never be greater than the sum of the energy of a single cycle over the number of cycles performed. Unlike increasing the cycle rate or the number of processes, a resonance does not increase energy but stores it. Its interest is simply practical, we can thus have accumulated energy to release it in a shorter time and obtain much more power than that at the origin of the resonance, but for a much shorter time, and no more energy.

but this is another:

Imagine a rectangular metal room with no windows, suspended by a wire between two high-voltage power lines.
A thick wire is passed through the room in transit from the power line, from one wall to the other.
The room is made of metal, closed on all sides.  This is our world.

You are inside a room with a low-voltage light bulb. You need to get light.
You know that a current of 100,000 amperes flows through the thick wire from the power plant to consumers.
But this high-quality thick wire has a resistance of 0.000001 ohms per meter.
No matter how you connect the light bulb to the wires, it will not glow, since the voltage between any accessible points on the wire is too low.
How to get light?

Let's say you have a coil and a capacitor that form a resonant circuit for the frequency of alternating current in the wire of this power line.
You connect in series the coil, the capacitor and a section of wire 1 meter long.
And then you connect a low-voltage light bulb in parallel with the coil or capacitor. Will it be possible to see light?

What is the limit to the energy you can get from a thick wire like this?
If you take a coil of very thick wire and a fat, large, low-loss capacitor, you can get a lot more until the power plant people notice a strange increase in losses in their power lines..
   
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@Sergh

The device you are referring to is a magnetic coupling with a line carrying 100,000 amps, thanks to an RLC circuit. The lamp will light up, stealing energy from other users who together draw the 100,000 A.

In Free Energy, adapting a device to an energy source so that it works is a secondary issue. The main issue is finding the energy source. Once you have the energy source, such as the power line, everything else is easy; it's just engineering.
The fact that an energy source cannot always be exploited as simply as the power line in your example to light a lamp does not in any way prove that anything can be an energy source and that the only question is how to extract it.

So the essential question remains: to demonstrate that the ZPE or another medium can constitute an exploitable energy source. Is it like the water reserve of a dam, at a high altitude, capable of turning a turbine, or a water reserve at sea level?


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