author=bistander link=topic=4603.msg111098#msg111098 date=1711592482
That would be your graphs show torque vs angle (or radians). And that is not energy.
Your chat GPT says-->-(Torque is the rotational force, while energy (work done) is the result of torque acting over a distance)
The graphs clearly show the rotational force (torque), and the distance traveled.
The graphs clearly show a torque curve over distance.
You mix the linear and rotational mechanical parameters and then power to energy comparison omitting time
.
Time is irrelevant when graphing the output torque curve v P/in between the two motors.
The graphs tell me nothing about energy or work. That's the question I have, you say they do. How?
Energy (work done) is torque over distance. Even your chatGPT says that.
Energy is the ability to do work, and the work being done is force over distance.
And I totally missed your explanation of "wasted torque". Is that side loading or radial thrust?
It is side loading.
How does that enter into energy besides bearing friction?
As you can see in the graph on the left, that side loading results in a large loss of rotational energy.
With my motor design, we take that wasted side loading energy, and add it to the rotational energy.
And as you can see in the graphs, when we do this, it results in almost double the rotational force over distance for the same power input.
It is much the same as trying to push a car forward from the side of the car, where you push at a 45 degree angle.
Half of your input energy is wasted trying to push the car sideways, while only half of your energy is used to push the car forward.
It is much better to push the car from the back, where the applied force is directly toward the front of the car.
Like I said, it is difficult for me to follow your method. Perhaps I should have just waited to see where it leads. Which I am content to do.
You are talking about two different motors here.
Work on the torque force motor has finished.
This motor we are discussing here, is a variation of the torque force motor, where the coil and input power are omitted, and where the magnets now rotate, and the torque plate remains stationary.
Brad
Never let your schooling get in the way of your education.