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Martin Fleischmann memorial project hosted Malcolm Bendall’s THOR reactor demonstration!
More info here
https://overunity.com/19595/build-guide-video-lenr-thor-plasmoid-thunderstorm-reactor-malcolm-bendall/msg583388/#new

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Good to know you are here , I know you are a member ,thanks for reply ( pm (private message would have worked too 🙂
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Martin Fleischmann memorial project live stream SEM/EDS analysis of THOR samples
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CbwGT-jplxI

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Transmutation verified?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0Dk4pIYIs4

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Transmutation verified?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0Dk4pIYIs4

I would be skeptical for reasons which seem obvious to me.

This process uses exhaust gas re-circulation so any elements relating to the engine, fuel, combustion will appear on the intake side and plasma reformer.
1) H, O, Ca, Mg, Na, K from water.
2) Engine metals like Cd, Cr, Cu, Pb, Mn, Hg, Ni, Zn from the engine oil blowing by the rings and combusted/recirculated.
3) It's well known hydrocarbons like engine oil and fuels contain trace amounts of heavy metals and S, P, Si.

As well, from my plasma and radiant energy/matter experiments I learned plasma loves to tear materials apart and deposit it in other areas. For example, thermal plasma/pyrolysis is used to reform waste/garbage into there basic elements for separation. This is basic plasma tech 101 and I'm not sure how the people at THOR could have missed this.

The easy answer is all the elements/heavy metals came from the engine oil/fuel and cylinder/parts/bearings. It blew by the rings, entered the combustion stream and was recirculated back to the plasma reformer then deposited there.

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One important factor,
It is said that they are building 25 units to send out to universities and ?
For replication and investigation of claims.

I would imagine the scientists , professors and students will have a good time thoroughly
Analyzing the claims.

Personally… I hope they can find something to add to our knowledge base ,
or get a better understanding of This huge air quality improvement ( claim).

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Below is brief summary of ongoing ( as I type this) project …shared by cloxxi at Stefan’s forum ( after sifting through mounds of Raw data /posts from Bob at Martin Fleischmann memorial project.

End of year surprise

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gmsFi1dfUk0 ( ongoing )

Apparently Bob has been working at university in Taiwan for a month
Seeing unusual results  and apparently they understand this enough to make predictions now ( about transmutation)

And university is able to prototype néw experiments ( “reactor” designs) at phenomenal rate !

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Well I guess Bob's a great consultant to the Taipei university
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Also India’s Mumbai university is receiving LENR sample from another reactor run tomorrow?

For evaluation …

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Also seems a livestream was done on another….
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https://www.youtube.com/live/kVo5YdCFZnw?si=9FWwrqjYcrTDLr7d&t=4780
   
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Small scale bench top nuclear COLD fusion should be best done using the John Keely frequency physics of the late 1800's. His 42 new laws of vibrational physics allows for 2 masses to attract each other with certain ratios of harmonic frequencies. Even with same sign polarities of magnets. For example,-- vacuum generated in brass hollow sphere without pump suction or chemical ablation from inside unit. Exterior shell vibrated so as internal to external ambient is changed and reduced pressure inside. The air molecules condense. Our ambient zero on gauge is actually many lbs pressure, but science uses zero. Keely showed 51 inches vacuum on open mercury bath tray using open  U shape tube Manometer gauge. Engineer, newspaper people, and investors were all present. This was just one of his many demonstrations. The Keely Motor Company was 5 Million dollars operation with over 100 devices, mechanisms. A summary of 3 Keely books, published about 1892, was called "The Snell Manuscript". See John Keely reference books.  I was mainly interested in his easy generation of hydrogen and oxygen from water with an array of tuning forks and thermocouples/thermopiles wires of silver, gold, and platinum to the resonating test ball cavity. The nodes (junctions) generated multiples of upper frequencies. Mr. Keely was a metals' machinist, musician, inventor, con man and physics researcher of resonance phenomena. "Juxtaposed coherent aggregates vibrating in unison, or harmonic ratio, are mutually attracted.
   
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Why has nothing concrete ever come out of John Keely's house?
Answer here https://www.wikiwand.com/en/John_Ernst_Worrell_Keely.

"John Ernst Worrell Keely (September 3, 1837 – November 18, 1898) was an American fraudster and self-proclaimed inventor from Philadelphia who claimed to have discovered a new motive power which was originally described as "vaporic" or "etheric" force, and later as an unnamed force based on "vibratory sympathy", by which he produced "interatomic ether" from water and air.

Keely secured substantial investments from many people, including John Jacob Astor IV. Despite numerous requests from the stockholders of the Keely Motor Company, which had been established to produce a practicable motor based on his work, he consistently refused to fully discuss the principles on which his motor supposedly operated, and also repeatedly refused demands to produce a marketable product by claiming that he needed to perfect his inventions. He became embroiled in several lawsuits, and after Keely's death evidence of his elaborate fraud was discovered...
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It's time to turn the page on the scams of the past that still inspire the naive.


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Yes Russ mentioned the con man reputation in his last sentence or two above .

Here a good question to some who may be close to this location?

Quote from comment section ( few days ago)
Are you going to make a trip to the site in Erith Dartford where one of Malcolm units has been fitted to a electric generator which is running on methane gas reclaimed from landfill
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I had seen a vid where this was being installed?
Would be interesting to read how this is performing?

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A new video from the fellow in Australia following the THOR project .
(Thanks to cloxxki for sharing )

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DrlL2N1A4GE 

Also a live stream link From Martin Fleischmann memorial project

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rB6KkjBIKoM

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One of the open source forums on the list here , is Merlib.org
 Esarouho has been sharing Pantone vids and some recent ( relatively recent considering 1993 Pantone original info) 2017 from his brother David Pantone ,

https://www.merlib.org/node/10282
Also Esarouho has been sharing vintage Geet/Pantone vids
https://www.merlib.org/

To be clear there was scandal attached to Pantone..
Financial shenanigans..with investors.

That being said, it can be tested..
And Thor project is taking this to a more transparent open source investigation.

   
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A pending announcement ?

Here some news ( thanks to our friend Cloxxi for passing it along.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=E-z12wCWG1c

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Apparently the reactor effects carbon dating in some strange way ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-p5jPpNnslQ

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KHMuiGR-dlg
Above links forwarded by member Cloxxki.

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A pending announcement ?

Here some news ( thanks to our friend Cloxxi for passing it along.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=E-z12wCWG1c

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Thanks, Chet.
This is new also:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHMuiGR-dlg

The proof of Carbon-14 just announced is great news as explained in the video.
   
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Live stream listing “anomalies?” at Taiwan university .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-Q_chXuLvs

Also Data comments and photos here : https://remoteview.substack.com/p/o-day-not-so-strange
Thanks to member cloxxki for sharing.
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New “earth shattering findings “?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?si=sow8MMS1A8TTpJHN&v=6VFJuIpHckY&feature=youtu.be

Thanks to member cloxxki for the update

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Amidst all these findings are there any groundbreaking demos? I have not seen any worth picking up the tools over.
   

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The device keeps evolving.

It started off as a hybrid of the "Joe cell" and the "Pantone GEET" 

See this earlier presentation for details.

The current version has supposedly dispensed with the electrolyser - but still has the UV lamp and "bubbler".

The GEET was essentially a thermochemical water splitter, which relied on getting steel up to red heat.  It is the same process that leads to the destruction of boiler tubes during “hydrogen fires”, so is fairly well known amongst certain circles.  Whether it results in an overall greater engine efficiency, without simply destroying components in the process, is difficult to tell from some of the short “investor demonstrations”.
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Guest editorial from Cloxxki

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-023-50824-8

Bin-Juine Huang and team (Director of New Energy Center, NTU) / Robert William Greenyer (Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project)

People used to get really excited when there were milliwatts of hypothetical “overunity” in play.

Shows the world that you can transmute atoms, get excess energy out, yet the wise men shrug their shoulders. There's not even the radiation that Marie Curie fatally encountered.

Under the electron beam microscope, we find corroboration of previous findings in similar research. Micron scale structures adhering to specific geometries, seemingly having birthed adjacent deposits of new fractals of various elements. We see carbon tubes seemingly having grown from attached spherical structures, if not growing from its own tip.

A wide range of minerals are found not originally part of the Huang/Greenyer study, including amongst other tin, iron, carbon, silver, etc. In the long term Bendall/ "Thunderstorm Generator" (TSG) run on natural gas, amongst other things Carbon-14 is found, "dated" to an "age" of 30,000 years. Highly anomalous to find so much Carbon-14, let alone of such an age.

What WOULD be impressive to the resident experts, if witnessing the birth of bioavailable minerals amid excess energy just doesn't quite get them excited? It's not as dialed as some alchemists claimed to have gotten it, but does that render the processes anything BUT alchemy?

alchemy
/ˈalkəmi/
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the medieval forerunner of chemistry, concerned with the transmutation of matter, in particular with attempts to convert base metals into gold or find a universal elixir.
"occult sciences, such as alchemy and astrology"

Silver is already found from an experiment using copper pipes and water, but that's not gold so...who cares?
"universal elixir", according to Oxford? Well, look at the wide range of bioavailable minerals found deposited to Huang's copper oxide pipe material... An (un)educated human would not be impressed, but an viral strain aspiring to be a one-cell organism might see it like the banquet worthy of a king?

In Huang's experiment, one of the copper pipes was found to have collapsed. Normally that would require 700 bars of pressure, or very high temperatures that were not occuring during the experiment. Something is going on when these Exotic Vacuum Objects are doing their thing. John Hutchison has seen objects lose all apparent mass, and become malleable like a caressed spoon.

Greenyer, on the electron microscope, finds structures adhering very accurately to Tesla's recommended geometry for a tower. Coincidence to be shrugged off, or something to look deeper into?

Malcolm Bendall may well be getting ahead of himself developing a theory of everything, but just because a forum commenter "doesn't see the big deal", doesn't mean it's all wrong and won't ever lead to deeper and more actionable insights.
Malcolm Bendall's Thunderstorm Generator (TSG) indeed reminds us of the GEET reactor, that had to be suppressed violently because it was just not going to amount to anything, I remember that one. Nested pipes, engine, fresher exhaust. Same difference, right? Sort of. GEET bubbled air through the fuel before sending it through the reactor, while TSG bubbles pre-ionized air, then through the reactor and the fuel comes in only just before combustion. Bendall insists that the reactor needs to be the nested pipes between nested spheres. I'm not convinced, but he does get results this way. I'd like to see a wide spectrum of amended setups to understand once more what GEET did and didn't do, and how its function differs from the pre-ionized air and straight fuel of TSG. Ultimately, I wonder whether there is something GEET did that could contribute to TSG. But perhaps the Exotic Vacuum Objects (EVO)/plasmoids just need to be introduced and it doesn't matter whether they came from bubbling water or fuel.

If the TSG gets certified, it totally wipes the establishments "carbon bogeyman" taxation programs. They believe carbon emission rising causes overall atmospheric temperatures to rise, and that that's a bad thing, and it's not actually the other way around, that high temperatures cause more bioavailable gaseous carbon to be supplied to flora. Some of us heard about the Jurassic and its dinosaurs in school. Everything green, everything big, right? We weren't told that CO2 levels were roughly 10x as high compared to now, when we suffer from deserts forming and crops bring too little harvest to feed us all.
Anyway, in many countries, carbon emissions are the new definition of evil and anti-green. Despite being actual bioavailable plant food, go figure. Politicians and interest groups...
With a TSG installed in your car or genset, the authorities will not be able to measure notable carbon emissions, just oxygen and the more atmospherically common nitrogen. No carbon, no need for taxed fuels. A huge difference for the world we're supposed to live in.

But it's not turning lead into gold with a "sim salabim" and double tap from a magic wand, so who would ever care, aye...?

I'll ask again, what WOULD impress the all-wise resident new energy enthusiasts? Where is the line drawn? Or is it a moving goalpost, like in every good marriage?

End editorial

See also an interesting “ maybe” ?
“Water can trigger nuclear reactions to produce energy and isotope gases “( under discussion)

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-023-50824-8

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Topic closed to generic musings for the time being , as relevant data from actual labs and research facilities arrives
It will be updated (good or “bad”)
All such Data is welcomed!

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New video mentioning a demonstration at a conference?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9Ht3WzH1b5I

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The device keeps evolving.

It started off as a hybrid of the "Joe cell" and the "Pantone GEET" 

See this earlier presentation for details.

The current version has supposedly dispensed with the electrolyser - but still has the UV lamp and "bubbler".

The GEET was essentially a thermochemical water splitter, which relied on getting steel up to red heat.  It is the same process that leads to the destruction of boiler tubes during “hydrogen fires”, so is fairly well known amongst certain circles.  Whether it results in an overall greater engine efficiency, without simply destroying components in the process, is difficult to tell from some of the short “investor demonstrations”.

I have a history with this technology and built my first water vapor injection system in my teens over 40 years ago. Not a 5 minute run like in most video's but months of testing and operation. It does lead to greater efficiency, cleans the cylinders and allows leaner fuel air mixtures. After months of operation I had no issues with any of my engines and they were spotless on tear down. Here is another fact most people don't know about these systems. Because the combustion/engine temperature can be controlled these engines could last 10 times longer than expected. Heat buildup and overheated oil losing viscosity under load is what kills most engines.

I also built and tested the GEET setup. Most don't seem to understand what it does or the difficulties in getting it operating. In effect, we have maybe 20 control variables continually changing and the system doesn't work until all these variables are correct. This is why most backyard mechanics doing 10 minute runs can never get any results. I also found trying to manually adjust this system is about as productive as herding cats. The odds of getting everything right are near zero.

So I'm in the process of rebuilding and automating my GEET system to mirror Malcolm Bendall's setup. I also plan on testing a new fuel reactor which can basically reform household garbage like organics, plastic etc and waste oil. I mean if only 10% of waste is actually being recycled then I'm going to keep my waste and use it to my benefit. Keep it out of the landfills and generate some power and heat.

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A new reactor?
https://youtu.be/jolZlYXZkIA?si=B80wFUpXdURSL9o-

A direct “matter to energy drive “?
Lots more info in the video

Also there is a conference in The Carolina’s (USA) in June !
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