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Hey all, dropping by to show off my latest creation. This is essentially an axial version of the Adams Generator.

Results so far... 9V in / 18V out (bottom EM coil), no heat, no current draw. Top coil is putting out a lazy 27-36V...
   

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...no current draw. Top coil is putting out a lazy 27-36V...
How do you measure the current ?
   

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How do you measure the current ?

Ah, this is just one component, meet the rest of the family. The two little terrors at the front are going to feed each other, now that I can induce and use emf from the EM coils. These will be set to run at 18V between each other, and generate somewhere between 60-90V from the coils above the rotor.

Those volts will be fed into either side of the little monster in the middle for the purpose of extracting huge amounts of emf.

I've built it in three pieces as I haven't been able to get my head around building it as a single unit.
   

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You did not answer the question.
   

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You did not answer the question.

The power supply has a amp meter.
   

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The power supply has a amp meter.
What is the current resolution of this meter and how does it respond to high-crest-factor current pulses ?
   

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What is the current resolution of this meter and how does it respond to high-crest-factor current pulses ?

The PS I'm using is a cheap one with 10mA steps. I can draw current by simply moving the hall sensor back a few mm to give the coil a longer window to fill. I don't have understanding of high-crest-factor current pulses as I am largely self taught.

The reason you don't see current drawn, is because mechanically/magnetically I have rotor magnets almost overlapping the coil cores which makes the magnetic resistance all but disappear. Coupled with a back EMF pulse at the point of magnetic equilibrium, and you have a relatively free moving rotor.
   
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The PS I'm using is a cheap one with 10mA steps. I can draw current by simply moving the hall sensor back a few mm to give the coil a longer window to fill. I don't have understanding of high-crest-factor current pulses as I am largely self taught.

The reason you don't see current drawn, is because mechanically/magnetically I have rotor magnets almost overlapping the coil cores which makes the magnetic resistance all but disappear. Coupled with a back EMF pulse at the point of magnetic equilibrium, and you have a relatively free moving rotor.
I am afraid that nobody have instruments to measure free energy  ;D :D
If you can’t fill a bucket with such thing and show it, you can’t claim anything  :)
   
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I am afraid that nobody have instruments to measure free energy

Yes, we do.
   

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The PS I'm using is a cheap one with 10mA steps.
So you are blind to currents less than 10mA and v/i timings.
Do you have an oscilloscope ?

I don't have understanding of high-crest-factor current pulses as I am largely self taught.
Most of the members here are "Self-taught" and understand the concept of the crest-factor.

The reason you don't see current drawn, is because mechanically/magnetically I have rotor magnets almost overlapping the coil cores which makes the magnetic resistance all but disappear.
No, the reason is the lack of appropriate measuring devices for measuring small pulsed currents.

Coupled with a back EMF pulse at the point of magnetic equilibrium, and you have a relatively free moving rotor.
The current flowing through a coil does not reverse direction during the "back EMF pulse".
What is equal "at the point of magnetic equilibrium" ?

What is the inductance and resistance of your coils ?
Where does your coil pulsing regime put you on this graph ?
Are your threaded rods ferromagnetic ?
Are you aware that even non-ferromagnetic conductive objects subjected to varying magnetic fields, will have eddy-currents induced in them, which cause mechanical braking and losses ?
Are you able to plot the torque vs angle of your rotor as shown in this video ?

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So you are blind to currents less than 10mA and v/i timings.
Do you have an oscilloscope ?
Yes. No.

Most of the members here are "Self-taught" and understand the concept of the crest-factor.
Thanks for the link, I'm clearly a very small fish here.

No, the reason is the lack of appropriate measuring devices for measuring small pulsed currents.
The current flowing through a coil does not reverse direction during the "back EMF pulse".
What is equal "at the point of magnetic equilibrium" ?
The attraction between the top and bottom coil cores. Which is the same point where the hall sensor activates the em coil to attract, turning off directly above the core. This is the technique Robert Adams used

What is the inductance and resistance of your coils ?
42m x 0.022 (3 x 14m x 1mm dia wound on 20mm threaded sleeve over a 12mm thread)
Haven't looked at inductance calcs.

Where does your coil pulsing regime put you on this graph ?
More calculations to do.

Are your threaded rods ferromagnetic ?
Yes

Are you aware that even non-ferromagnetic conductive objects subjected to varying magnetic fields, will have eddy-currents induced in them, which cause mechanical braking and losses ?
Yes, but considering I can spin the rotor easily with a couple of fingers and watch the perspex flex under about 30kg of force on each side, outside resistance is largely insignificant. The bearing in the rotor cops a flogging however.

Are you able to plot the torque vs angle of your rotor as shown in this video ?
More calculations to do.

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Do you have an oscilloscope ?
No
If you are in the market for one, then I recommend this one for starters. It is under $400.
   
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Hey all, dropping by to show off my latest creation. This is essentially an axial version of the Adams Generator.

Results so far... 9V in / 18V out (bottom EM coil), no heat, no current draw. Top coil is putting out a lazy 27-36V...

How much do you estimate the total cost for your setup and how long it take to build ?

Do you get same results from power source with battery usage ?

Also, one of my previous comments that someone keep deleting it. And as I said in one of the previous comments that someone deleted them, you dont need fancy instruments to build an OU device, but if you claim you may end up spending more than you already spent to build just to buy many unnecessary things.
   

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Also, one of my previous comments that someone keep deleting it. And as I said in one of the previous comments that someone deleted them,
The moderator has deleted them.  If I were you, I would not rock the boat and consider why your comments keep getting deleted.

...you dont need fancy instruments to build an OU device,
...but you need basic instruments to document their performance and discover their inner workings.
The scope I had recomended to unimmortal is not "fancy". It is one of the cheapest new scopes you can get nowadays and it has best performance per dollar.

but if you claim you may end up spending more than you already spent to build just to buy many unnecessary things.
With this statement you just discouraged this member from making concrete measurements and fear-mongering him with costs, that you have implied as "unnecessary".
Such statements have nothing to do with research and technical discovery, which this forum is all about, so I will not be surprised if the moderator deletes your post again or worse.
   

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A quick progress shot of wiring up the family. The board in the middle is the circuitry for two 5V (+2V overhead) regulators to support the UGN3503 hall sensors, with the remaining voltage being switched to the EM coils.Copper wire is on the bench for the 2nd set of generator coils (coiling is a love hate relationship), and I'm about to learn how to use tinkered to 3d print a second rotor... busy times.
   

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That was a lot of work!
Did you notice that there is no low-reluctance path for the return flux from these coils ?
   

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That was a lot of work!
Did you notice that there is no low-reluctance path for the return flux from these coils ?

I'm loving your questions, but equally frustrated with how much I need to learn to understand them.
   

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I'm loving your questions, but equally frustrated with how much I need to learn to understand them.
Reluctance in a magnetic circuit is analogous to resistance in an electric circuit. 
Magnetic flux in a magnetic circuit is analogous to current in an electric circuit.
Return flux is the flux which loops back and completes the magnetic circuit.
Magnetic flux always forms complete loops, so it must return. There is no way to get around that.
Does this help ?
   

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Reluctance in a magnetic circuit is analogous to resistance in an electric circuit. 
Magnetic flux in a magnetic circuit is analogous to current in an electric circuit.
Return flux is the flux which loops back and completes the magnetic circuit.
Magnetic flux always forms complete loops, so it must return. There is no way to get around that.
Does this help ?
Yes! That makes a little more sense. I have spent inordinate amounts of time playing with magnets and rotors, and visualising optimal magnetic flows. This is part of where I had the idea to have the magnetic field constantly oscillating between top and bottom coil cores to reduce any form of resistance.
At the moment I'm only pulsing the lower coils, should I start switching the generator coils, magnetic reluctance should theoretically reduce to zero.



   

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Here are the rather simple schematics for the switch and rectifier that I'm using. While the rectifier may look a little confusing, putting it around the coil allows for greater EMF recovery. This latest design with multiple diodes saw a 3V increase (up from 16V with single diodes) from 8 LEDS (16V) drawing out the EMF. The most interesting thing I've found, is that without a load, there is no voltage on the rectifier output.

   

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Hey mate hope to catch up soon. Loved chatting with you. Hope to start working on this in a couple of weeks.
   

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Here are the rather simple schematics for the switch and rectifier that I'm using.
Read this thread where we tried to do a similar recovery of energy stored in a motor winding.

This thread is also relevant but you need to be logged-in to see the diagrams and attachments.

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Read this thread where we tried to do a similar recovery of energy stored in a motor winding.

This thread is also relevant but you need to be logged-in to see the diagrams and attachments.
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Thanks. I need to create an account on OU.

Out of interest, what sort of results were you getting?

Using the rectifier I posted earlier, an open circuit after the rectifier is now showing up as 74V DC with a 63V capacitor in place for filtering. Remove the capacitor and the charge is barely 5V. The capacitor appears to be the broker between the load (LEDs) and the coil. But that doesn't explain why I see a much higher voltage with no load. Either way I've decided to put 9V regulators in place for the power side to stop any looping and provide a cleaner voltage to the coils.

   
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I had not realized this is an issue ?
Will mention ( ask)
Also trying to get Stefan comfortable with allowing genuine or active builds to be updated from
Time to time !( the moderated builders boards that were there)
Or genuine breakthroughs to be showcased.
I see he did this already ( once) with Martin Fleischmann THOR reactor.

And there are new things I am aware of ..Hakasays is working with a group on earth Transmission, also a global earthquake detection “syndicate “, sites around the globe connected with very specific open source technology !

As it develops it should be “pinned” at certain venues!
Etc etc

   
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