The point I was making is that the electrical analogy of the Linde system would be positive feedback. It's possible that Kapanadze was experimenting with the Linde system as shown in the photo, and this then gave him the idea for an electrical equivalent.
That's kind of funny, I have a really good memory so when you mentioned "Linde" in the "Kapanadze" thread who followed "Tesla" one thing came to mind. Nikola Tesla's lecture, The Problem of Increasing Human Energy.
https://teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla/articles/problem-increasing-human-energyIn fact, Tesla all but explains the FE process no less than two times in his lecture. Once as an analogy of a vessel in the bottom of a lake where water is transformed into gasses (H2 and O2) as fast as it can enter said vessel. Then with Dr. Carl Linde's discovery of the liquefaction of air by a self-cooling process ie. a self-acting system. Both relate to the notion that thing 1 in being transformed into thing 2 can extract environmental energy from an open system. Not a closed box, that's childish, an open system.
In fact, the vessel in the bottom of a lake analogy is the first time I proved Tesla's thoughts on environmental energy were correct by calculation.
Now suppose we had a vessel 1,000 feet under a lake with a pipe from the vessel rising upwards to atmospheric conditions above the water. The vessel and pipe are full of air because the pipe is above the waterline ie. the system is empty of water. Next we install a Pelton turbine and generator running at 90% combined efficiency on the vessel so that any water pressure must do work upon entering said vessel. The electrical energy from the generator drives a high efficiency electrolyzer which would as Tesla implied supposedly "transform" the water into a different medium as gasses (H2, O2) as fast as it entered the vessel. Said gasses could then rise up though the pipe attached to the vessel which is a open to atmosphere ie. at near atmospheric conditions.
So we do the calculations and find at 1000 foot depth the pressure is too low and the system floods with water because the efficiency is too low. We keep extending the pipe and the vessel depth in the lake and lo and behold at some depth the system does balance. Why does it balance?, because the external pressure of the water doing work on the turbine/generator/electrolyzer rises quickly but since the connecting pipe full of H2 and O2 is open to atmosphere the pressure rises very slowly.
So we managed to show an open system can balance energy input/output at some point due to the water to atmospheric air pressure differential so what?. If it didn't balance we just go deeper and deeper into the lake raising the input pressure thus work/energy until it does, so what?.
What's missing from this equation?, something so obvious it boggles the mind?.
Well, if we installed two pipes on the vessel (one for the H2 and one for the O2) rising from the depth but open to atmospheric pressure we could burn the H2 and O2 at the surface to generate extra energy. So it's not a simple matter of balancing the masses of the system(water vs gasses) when the thing being transformed is an energy carrier.
In fact, Viktor Schauberger came to a similar conclusion. He talked about bodies of water like lakes full of dissolved gasses like CO2 erupting. By lowering the water pressure the dissolved gasses come out of suspension rising to the surface and able to do work.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4285878.stmSupersonic jets, Initially, pumps begin moving the bottom water up the pipe. But as it rises, gas comes out of solution, making the water buoyant and pushing it upwards ever faster. The process becomes self-sustaining, and the pumps can be turned off.
Wow, the process became "self-sustaining", imagine that. So simple a child could understand it and based on grade school science to boot.
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Comprehend and Copy Nature... Viktor Schauberger
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