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Hello everybody,

This is my first message/topic on this forum. Currently trying to setup a little power source for domestic usage like heating and running appliances.

The system will comprise a radiant energy collection as per Tesla invention being the main power source, where whatever electricity collects will be used to heat a 200-300 litres of water. For heating water I intend to use a little device using “Dumas Effect” . Then add another setup or more for powering appliances.

The main purpose is to avoid huge power banks which are extremely expensive as radiant energy collection can provide 24/7 not like solar or wind systems and in same time trying to keep most of home wiring intact … I’m quite reluctant to use wireless power transfer in the house to power each appliance.

It looks like almost all solution for each step can be found in this forum as far as I can see. Anyone interested for team work ?
   
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Although I've been involved in and followed alternate energy for around 40 years I don't recall hearing about the 'Dumas effect' (although that might be a bit of older overburdened memory) but I see with a bit of Google searching some interesting info on it.  One site is here:  https://www.effet-dumas.org/en/

Interested in anything you can share from personal experience with this.  Water has some extremely unique properties.   

BTW Welcome to the forum.   O0
   
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Although I've been involved in and followed alternate energy for around 40 years I don't recall hearing about the 'Dumas effect' (although that might be a bit of older overburdened memory) but I see with a bit of Google searching some interesting info on it.  One site is here:  https://www.effet-dumas.org/en/

Interested in anything you can share from personal experience with this.  Water has some extremely unique properties.   

BTW Welcome to the forum.   O0

Thank you for welcome message. Indeed Dumas effect that I have made reference is this.
http://www.rexresearch.com/dumas/dumas.htm
There is some more info about his device in open source if anyone wants to build it … lately I barely can find real info as is buried in thousands of not really useful info for those ordinary people with little skills that might attempt to build/use for their benefit.
   

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May want to consider Ainslies' circuit:

https://www.google.com/search?q=Rosemary+Ainslie%E2%80%99s+COP%3D17+Heater.&rlz=1C1ONGR_enGB1046GB1046&oq=Rosemary+Ainslie%E2%80%99s+COP%3D17+Heater.&aqs=chrome..69i57.782039j1j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:6e96bd99,vid:UGCC3Lewwdw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYtj0Akjpv0&t=198s

https://overunity.com/13743/rosemary-ainslie-quantum-magazine-circuit-cop-17-claims/15/

http://www.energeticforum.com/forum/energetic-forum-discussion/renewable-energy/inductive-resistor/4460-cop-17-heater-rosemary-ainslie/page101

Or any number of similar "Radiant energy" designs
They are all supposed to achieve an identical (if not very similar) end result regardless of approach taken.

Think tangentially!


I find the B-emmf / HHO stuff fascinating, personally
Just a tad risky and expensive compared with simpler projects

I'm sure there are permutations of known designs that have yet to be experimented with.
Nowhere near enough interest in all of this IMO

Always good to see more solo researchers get involved :)
   
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For heating water I intend to use a little device using “Dumas Effect” ... Anyone interested for team work ?

To avoid repetition, the first thing to do is to put "Dumas" into this site's search box. You will find plenty of posts to start on. The same applies to "Ainslie".
   
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May want to consider Ainslies' circuit:

https://www.google.com/search?q=Rosemary+Ainslie%E2%80%99s+COP%3D17+Heater.&rlz=1C1ONGR_enGB1046GB1046&oq=Rosemary+Ainslie%E2%80%99s+COP%3D17+Heater.&aqs=chrome..69i57.782039j1j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:6e96bd99,vid:UGCC3Lewwdw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYtj0Akjpv0&t=198s

https://overunity.com/13743/rosemary-ainslie-quantum-magazine-circuit-cop-17-claims/15/

http://www.energeticforum.com/forum/energetic-forum-discussion/renewable-energy/inductive-resistor/4460-cop-17-heater-rosemary-ainslie/page101

Or any number of similar "Radiant energy" designs
They are all supposed to achieve an identical (if not very similar) end result regardless of approach taken.

Think tangentially!


I find the B-emmf / HHO stuff fascinating, personally
Just a tad risky and expensive compared with simpler projects

I'm sure there are permutations of known designs that have yet to be experimented with.
Nowhere near enough interest in all of this IMO

Always good to see more solo researchers get involved :)

Thank you for reply, is much appreciated.

My intention is to keep everything as simple as possible as and as cheap as possible. Also I am aiming to have a system working by the end of august 2023 if possible and must be open source, free for anyone, domestic or commercial. Available for almost anyone to build and use as they please whenever they please.

So I’m trying to stick with some solutions that are already in use or largely available for domestic hot water and heating, while using existing setups with minimum or no modification where is possible.

A real alternative to huge grid centralised energy distribution without any form of weather dependant means of energy production like solar and wind, or something in the sea where any act of war or vandalism could render them unavailable.
   
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Thank you for reply, is much appreciated.

My intention is to keep everything as simple as possible as and as cheap as possible. Also I am aiming to have a system working by the end of august 2023 if possible and must be open source, free for anyone, domestic or commercial. Available for almost anyone to build and use as they please whenever they please.

So I’m trying to stick with some solutions that are already in use or largely available for domestic hot water and heating, while using existing setups with minimum or no modification where is possible.

A real alternative to huge grid centralised energy distribution without any form of weather dependant means of energy production like solar and wind, or something in the sea where any act of war or vandalism could render them unavailable.

If you check the work done on this site youo wiull save a lot of time and trouble.
   
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If you check the work done on this site youo wiull save a lot of time and trouble.
Many thanks for your reply is much appreciated. I wonder if you can be more specific, I really am keen to have it done as fast as possible.
   
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Many thanks for your reply is much appreciated. I wonder if you can be more specific, I really am keen to have it done as fast as possible.

At the top of this page:

HOME HELP SEARCH PROFILE ... etc. etc.
   
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At the top of this page:

HOME HELP SEARCH PROFILE ... etc. etc.

Not really helpful but I still appreciate good intentions  O0

The principle of a working device is pretty simple: collector of energy, conditioning of energy, usage. I’m not aiming for megawatts, just simple things to get some energy independence from unscrupulous business and gov.

Why I chose to use a simple device for Dumas Effect ? Because is simple and very easy to make, only needed 3 scoops from an ice cream scooper, drill some holes, weld 2 together with a bolt use some plastic washers, connect to the socket. Attach it to an energy harvester and the system is heating your house for free or at least for much less … while your personal contribution to pollution is decreasing drastically.
   

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If you can build something that either amplifies overall system power, or self runs 24/7 by way of external input (with useful load attached) (That is not a dam); then

LET US KNOW ASAP !

Many thousands of people are working on this problem .. (Just not hard enough, I think)

Or perhaps intentions change when the truth is revealed ..

Only one way to know  O0
   
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If you can build something that either amplifies overall system power, or self runs 24/7 by way of external input (with useful load attached) (That is not a dam); then

LET US KNOW ASAP !

Many thousands of people are working on this problem .. (Just not hard enough, I think)

Or perhaps intentions change when the truth is revealed ..

Only one way to know  O0

Please name at least 1 invention patented by Nikola Tesla that isn’t working. If you find it let me know ASAP 😎

Somewhere in the world I am aware of at least 2 devices doing the work for 2kw and least, I won’t say anything else as inventors are aware of many forums including this and they choose to use other ways disclosing their devices.

I find insulting and intriguing to see active users on many forums that deny over unity and being let to build ostensibly theories against free to use energy siding perfectly with suppression for mass release.

I will make full disclosure at the right moment just in spite of them as many of us us gather strength as we know everything is watched closely and they are trying to limit in any manner freedom of movement and information.
And I’m not impressed by latest attempts of tracking me at all.
   

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Just for clarity, no sarcasm was implied on my part,

My comment was genuine,

Big bold letters reinforce the importance of what I said, applies to anyone reading

I too am upset by how relatively little interest there is in the possibility & subsequent development of a personal, looped OU generator system.

I would like very much, as would many others, to know what else Tesla devised that we are not privy to
(Docs confiscated at his death by CIA) Who knows what was in them?? (CIA are also said to have originated the term "conspiracy theory")
There has been enough known mass psyops throughout history that I wouldn't doubt it tbh.

The truth should need not defending! (Although sadly, it would appear as though it does in a sense)


PS. Who's tracking you ??
That's a curious statement if there ever was one

Wishing you success in your findings.
   
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PS. Who's tracking you ??
That's a curious statement if there ever was one

Not really and it's basically a given.

Anyone with decent antivirus/security software can see everyone is continually trying to be hacked. It's kind of strange how naive most people are.
Having been in the loop and knowing others who were as well I can say with certainty that if you made any credible FE claims your being monitored.

A better question is, if your working on a billion dollar tech which could effect a trillion dollar industry why wouldn't they be monitoring you?. Most tech companies already monitor people and sell there info just so they can sell some crappy ads. Think about it, do you think facebook is just a crappy message app?. It's literally designed to steal all your information which is then sold to whomever is willing to pay. How do you think they can make billions of dollars off a message app?, it's not because your friends, lol.

The cool part is once we know were being watched then we can feed them false info just to mess them up. They get off thinking there clever when there actually being duped, lol.

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Really ? 🤣

I just noticed that level of tracking has increased and I still don’t care. Any attempt for whatever devices that is able to produce some work is a threat for big tech Co and energy mass production. Imagine 10.00 houses per month that will give up on gas and electric … sounds like a disruption ?  ;D
https://www.mouser.co.uk/c/embedded-solutions/energy-harvesting-modules/ what do you think about scale up ?

As you can see there is plenty opportunities and many ways to achieve if someone have necessary determination and the beauty is you don’t even need to be a scientist 🤭
   

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If your intent is benevolent and you're not turning a profit, what possible way can they involve themselves with your business??

Yes I have heard Bearden talk about this

Make yourself untouchable  :)

Then, in the most diplomatic sense, "they" can go and f*ck themselves !  ;)

This has to happen and there's enough of us, making enough noise, that any "missing persons" would be immediately noticeable ..

The amount of money in the energy sector worldwide is literally incalculable

I do not deny the possibility that over half the supposed poisonings and assassinations of researchers were legitimate

Sh*t's real and calls for some serious action to be taken.

That's what this site is really about as I see it, not sure how it's allowed to stay up tbh, but I am glad it does as should we all be.
And make more / better use of it.
   
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Opps, wrong thread
   
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If anyone here is good with math can figure out a formula for harvesting energy where we have an unlimited input that will lead to an unlimited output, conversion of energy must done accordingly with the form of energy we plan to use. Any loses in the system will account for efficiency of the system we create … if we fail to harvest or we have >100% loses, output is <1 unit

So, think of a 2 magnets facing same Pole each other and we force them against each other … I know you will say that we spend energy to force them, but things will be different if 1st magnet is placed on a solid surface and 2nd magnet is pressed against in a constraint by a mass being a heavy thing … this is image that help understand this method let’s say. If anyone dare to go this way I would recommend to keep all conclusions for themselves and any kind of demos, vids etc. as they will bring the doom upon themselves otherwise as military and intelligence always watching and they don’t employ any scrupulous method.

In terms of radiant energy we only need to create a disruption in order to harvest, by shorting 2 fields that have a potential difference at a high (or the right) fervency where the local environment will start to balance its own entropy as it sees its an developing anomaly. There is probably an infinite methods to tap into this energy and extract the exact form that we want to employ to power up our “little things”. We can use: sound, magnetic, electric, kinetic, radiation … anything we can think off as 2 fields of the same kind with a potential difference. Just pay attention the way you connect the fields and avoid all loses you can until disruption is created.

Only if you can afford start to experiment with this and always chase the outcome not the use of expensive testing equipment. If you manage to get any kind of output in the form desired, amplify 1 way to the disruption point and make sure the opposite field has a large clear way to bring its force to fight … collection of energy must happen on the second field where we don’t interact as it will be our FE. This is the working principle of over unity device and I still call it over unity as we only need to supply a little input to collect a large output. The greater little input is using chemo physical properties of materials used for disturbance, the greater is the output.

Do not abuse any extraction, take only what you really need, when you need.

P.S. don’t let yourself being distracted in little arguments, ignore naysayers … always follow your natural instincts.
   

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I'll quote Terence Mckenna yet again, as I feel it applies:

You matter, you count. You come from realms of unimaginable power and light, and you will return to those realms. You have to take seriously the notion that understanding the universe is your responsibility, because the only understanding of the universe that will be useful to you is your own understanding.
   
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I'll quote Terence Mckenna yet again, as I feel it applies:

You matter, you count. You come from realms of unimaginable power and light, and you will return to those realms. You have to take seriously the notion that understanding the universe is your responsibility, because the only understanding of the universe that will be useful to you is your own understanding.

Sorry to say that sounds like a word salad from VP Harris.  And while I don't disagree with parts of his statement I'm not sure how relevant it is here.  So the below won't be sticking to opening topic but some may find it interesting in regards to McKenna.
Terence McKenna may have been a creative user of words but in my personal experience with him he was a bit of a fool with little common sense.   Why do I say that?   Based on my personal experience he nearly got both of us killed.  I was a hang glider pilot and I had flown with some of the best in the world.  I knew the world champion and nationals champion personally.  The world champion hang glider pilot at that time would hang out in my van while we were waiting for conditions to improve.  We'd go to lunch at the local diner in the Bay area flying spot.  In an informal contest I out flew the world champion.   I was a good pilot and knew this flying spot well and the protocols for it. 

     One day Terence McKenna shows up to fly there.  There was a certain point along the cliff soaring path where nearly
everyone would turn 180 to go back along the cliff edge when wind conditions were not real strong.   Without getting into all
the technical details I'll just say no one with any common sense would be following another glider super close at that turning
point and not even any other time was it good to be real close behind someone unless you both had arranged something ahead
of time.  I was at the turning point and did a tight 180 to stay in the lift close to the cliff edge.  He was right behind and slightly
above my glider making it nearly impossible to see him.  Upon making the 180 I came face to face with McKenna.  We almost
crashed head on but I dove under him knowing it might mean I'd lose enough lift that I might have to land on the beach below
and carry my 70 pound glider back up the 200 foot sandy cliff face.   Fortunately I managed to regain enough lift to land back
on top.   Later McKenna came up to me to comment how close my kingpost came to him as I dove my glider under him.   It
was obvious he was very full of himself.  No common sense - at least in the way of flying.  Maybe he spent too much time
flying on psychedelics.  He may have impressed some people with his word salads and his advocacy of plant based
psychedelics but I think he lacked good old common sense. 
   
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Very helpful last 2 comments, thank you
   
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... because the only understanding of the universe that will be useful to you is your own understanding.


It depends upon whether this understanding is accurate orf inaccurate.
   

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@ e2matrix
Couldn't hope for a more interesting reply! (even if our opinions vary somewhat, I have listened to many of his talks on YT)
That's a fascinating story!

Regrading "what is to be done??" as he put it, in the macro, I think he was on point personally.

I don't agree with everything he said or implied but what he stated ad nauseum regarding psilocybin / related tryptamines and/or endogenous botanical compounds, and their place in nature, has indeed since been revealed to have been truthful through extensive (ongoing) research (and then some, already!)
The studies are quite revealing for those with eyes to see.. (Neurogenesis can occur from psilocin ingestion  :o)
Should make you wonder why it's still illegal anywhere if the LD50 is 280mg/kg C.C
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eu9GfHCpVo

Even if he seemed somewhat pretentious at times, he occupied an unusual position being involved with academia but also a hub for countercultural movement at the time.. I'd say that's a lot to take on and he'd have faced his fair share of stigma I imagine.
(As many of us do for our assertions)

I quote him here despite it being slightly out of place, as I feel he offered a well rounded perspective for the wayward individual.
I would equate Mckenna to the likes of Jung or Watts - Someone who wasn't afraid to "go" where no one else would.

There's knowledge and there's wisdom; serious researchers need both.

Knowledge is knowing a Tomato is a fruit
Wisdom is knowing whether or not to put it in a fruit salad!



@Paul R
I'd say that even the most articulated cognition can be further refined
In other words, you have to start somewhere!

None of us got into this with all the knowledge prior. We all need somewhere to start.
Even the most flawed and incomplete understanding is valuable as deadwood burns off and the perspective becomes more in tune with reality.
These early steps were most likely taken by even Oppenheimer, or Edison, or Tesla himself.
   
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I quote him here despite it being slightly out of place, as I feel he offered a well rounded perspective for the wayward individual.
I would equate Mckenna to the likes of Jung or Watts - Someone who wasn't afraid to "go" where no one else would.

Indeed, this is a really good read...
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/tag/conformity

Here are a few highlights...

“The conventional view serves to protect us from the painful job of thinking.”― John Kenneth Galbraith

“You laugh at me because I'm different, I laugh at you because you're all the same.”― Jonathan Davis

“If I decide to be an idiot, then I’ll be an idiot on my own accord.”― Johann Sebastian Bach

“It is a brave thing to have courage to be an individual; it is also, perhaps, a lonely thing. But it is better than not being an individual, which is to be nobody at all.”― Eleanor Roosevelt

“Most people believe most of the things they believe only because they believe that most people believe them.”― Mokokoma Mokhonoana

“Most sane human beings who are over the age of six usually act or react not as per what they genuinely feel or really think but in accordance with the expectations of those around them.”― Mokokoma Mokhonoana

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