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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #300 on: 2023-07-02, 18:25:04 »

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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #301 on: 2023-07-02, 19:37:04 »

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Quote from: Maxolous on 2023-07-02, 18:13:49
Itsu,

Here's the carrier (envelope) and the intelligent signal.


Max,

thanks, i see your time base is at 10us/div., so the peaks are at 25kHz (40us) is that your push-pull (carrier) frequency?

I have never seen such a screenshot before, so could you further explain where your probes are at?

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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #302 on: 2023-07-02, 21:38:46 »

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Quote from: Itsu on 2023-07-02, 19:37:04

Max,

thanks, i see your time base is at 10us/div., so the peaks are at 25kHz (40us) is that your push-pull (carrier) frequency?

Itsu,

This particular grenade res at 1.310MHZ
The the LC resonance is 26.2KHZ.

Quote from: Itsu on 2023-07-02, 19:37:04

I have never seen such a screenshot before, so could you further explain where your probes are at?


Regards Itsu

Since it is broadcasting, the probe should be outside to pick the out going signal.


I do hope we are getting the form now

Maxolous
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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #303 on: 2023-07-03, 02:51:20 »

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Max,


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This particular grenade res at 1.310MHZ

So this is your 1/4 wave resonance of the Grenade?

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The the LC resonance is 26.2kHZ.

So this is your push-pull resonance frequency?

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Since it is broadcasting, the probe should be outside to pick the out going signal.

So the probe is laying say 5cm away from the Grenade?
What about the Kacher / Antenna resonance frequency? Is it this same 1.310MHz?
If so, would the probe not pick up that signal first?

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I do hope we are getting the form now

As i do not have the push-pull (yoke) running i will not be getting this form anytime soon


Sorry for all these questions,   Itsu
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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #304 on: 2023-07-03, 03:57:01 »

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Quote from: Itsu on 2023-07-03, 02:51:20
Max,


So this is your 1/4 wave resonance of the Grenade?

Itsu,

Yes

Quote from: Itsu on 2023-07-03, 02:51:20

I guess you mean kHz?
So this is your push-pull resonance frequency?


Yes, 26.2KHZ .
I will modify that.

Quote from: Itsu on 2023-07-03, 02:51:20

So the probe is laying say 5cm away from the Grenade?


About 10cm, I guess.

Quote from: Itsu on 2023-07-03, 02:51:20

What about the Kacher / Antenna resonance frequency? Is it this same 1.310MHz?


Yes

Quote from: Itsu on 2023-07-03, 02:51:20


If so, would the probe not pick up that signal first?


This is the result of all signals.

Quote from: Itsu on 2023-07-03, 02:51:20

As i do not have the push-pull (yoke) running i will not be getting this form anytime soon


Please, do and don't delay.

Quote from: Itsu on 2023-07-03, 02:51:20


Sorry for all these questions,   Itsu

Not bordered.

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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #305 on: 2023-07-03, 09:54:36 »

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Thanks Max,

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This is the result of all signals.

OK, I understand, but would / should the kacher / Antenna signal not be a multitude times stronger than the "broadcasting" Grenade and thus obscuring its signal?


Anyway, do you think this AM modulated signal is essential for a self runner? 


Itsu
   
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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #306 on: 2023-07-03, 10:51:49 »

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Quote from: Itsu on 2023-07-03, 09:54:36
Thanks Max,

OK, I understand, but would / should the kacher / Antenna signal not be a multitude times stronger than the "broadcasting" Grenade and thus obscuring its signal?


No, it's a modulated signal so , they are all now one and attain power

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Anyway, do you think this AM modulated signal is essential for a self runner? 


Itsu

Achieve this , next maximize Tesla power to get what you want . Also, it depends on how you arrange your cct.

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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #307 on: 2023-07-03, 11:19:38 »

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No, it's a modulated signal

Do you mean you are modulating the kacher?

If so, how do you do that?

Itsu
   
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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #308 on: 2023-07-03, 12:23:20 »
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Quote from: Maxolous on 2023-07-03, 03:57:01
Itsu,

Yes

Yes, 26.2KHZ .
I will modify that.

About 10cm, I guess.

Yes

This is the result of all signals.

Please, do and don't delay.

Not bordered.

Maxolous.
Err do you mean not bothered by any chance ?
   
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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #309 on: 2023-07-03, 12:26:30 »
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Quote from: Itsu on 2023-07-03, 11:19:38
Do you mean you are modulating the kacher?

If so, how do you do that?

Itsu
Geo showed you how to do that in one of his last vids but thats not rthe real problem.


Err Itsu  why do you want to modulate it, your already transmitting it of into
space re right hand rule !

Sil
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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #310 on: 2023-07-03, 15:57:06 »

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Quote from: Itsu on 2023-07-03, 11:19:38
Do you mean you are modulating the kacher?

If so, how do you do that?

Itsu

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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #277 on: 2023-07-01, 20:06:29 »

At this point your Corona will cease from being blue to become whitish.

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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #311 on: 2023-07-03, 16:13:10 »

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Err do you mean not bothered by any chance ?

Yes, thanks for the correction. Keypad suggestion error
   
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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #312 on: 2023-07-03, 16:34:48 »

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Max,

So, your Grenade 1/4 wave length resonance is 1310kHz.
You have a continuously running Kacher / antenna at 1310kHz
The push-pull / Inductor LC circuit is running at 26.2kHz resonance, thus the Grenade also gets pulsed at 26.2kHz
26.2kHz is 1/50 of 1310, so the 50th subharmonic is stimulating the Grenade to run at its 1/4 wave resonance.

These combined signals seem to create that AM modulated HF signal (1310kHz carrier with a 26.2kHz modulation).
The modulation depth is not 100%, but roughly 25%.

Are your Kacher power supply and the Push-pull power supply one and the same?
If so, there might be some interaction / feedback between the Push-pull circuit back to the kacher circuit and/or vice versa.
Do you hear any hissing sounds and / or Radio Moscow (squealing sound) which points to some form of oscillations?

Itsu
« Last Edit: 2023-07-03, 20:00:32 by Itsu »
   
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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #313 on: 2023-07-03, 19:29:00 »
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So in that case you have just told me no one in this group is doing any thing by the book
or your just doing your own thing great! don't let me stop you carry on. >:-)
   
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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #314 on: 2023-07-03, 20:51:50 »

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Quote from: Itsu on 2023-07-03, 16:34:48
Max,

So, your Grenade 1/4 wave length resonance is 1310kHz.
You have a continuously running Kacher / antenna at 1310kHz
The push-pull / Inductor LC circuit is running at 26.2kHz resonance, thus the Grenade also gets pulsed at 26.2kHz
26.2kHz is 1/50 of 1310, so the 50th subharmonic is stimulating the Grenade to run at its 1/4 wave resonance.

These combined signals seem to create that AM modulated HF signal (1310kHz carrier with a 26.2kHz modulation).
The modulation depth is not 100%, but roughly 25%.

Are your Kacher power supply and the Push-pull power supply one and the same?
If so, there might be some interaction / feedback between the Push-pull circuit back to the kacher circuit and/or vice versa.
Do you hear any hissing sounds and / or Radio Moscow (squealing sound) which points to some form of oscillations?

Itsu

Itsu,
This build is a simple kacher. Top Ruslan 2014 modified. No interruption.
I have also showed that of controlled Tesla.
In simple kacher power source for both are same except you're putting mediator yoke coil which in this case ,no.
There must be hissing sound otherwise no interaction.

The modulation can not be 100% because it's a continuous running system.

Maxolous.
   
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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #315 on: 2023-07-03, 21:00:09 »

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Itsu.
Note.
I didn't bother about ¼wave res. I just worked with were my wound grenade resonated, please.
Maxolous
   
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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #316 on: 2023-07-03, 21:34:35 »

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There is no information about this device you shall look for that has not already been given especially in OU.com and here. only know what you're looking for.

Maxolous
   
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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #317 on: 2023-07-03, 23:21:59 »
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Quote from: Maxolous on 2023-07-03, 21:34:35
There is no information about this device you shall look for that has not already been given especially in OU.com and here. only know what you're looking for.

Maxolous
Yes it's all in the two threads some where but it's putting it all about assembling the
jigsaw together correct part in the correct hole unlike some have.

Have you noticed Itsu and Nick ignore me  that's because some people get things wrong and things get messed up:D :D :D say no more   :-X

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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #318 on: 2023-07-04, 00:49:52 »
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   Well, you could say that I try to ignore you AG,  but you are pretty persistent with your distractions, up to now.
  I am allowing Max his say. He seams to think that he has this down. Even though I don't buy any of it.
   Each to his own...

   NickZ
   
   
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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #319 on: 2023-07-04, 01:24:31 »

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Quote from: AlienGrey on 2023-07-03, 23:21:59
Yes it's all in the two threads some where but it's putting it all about assembling the
jigsaw together correct part in the correct hole unlike some have.

Have you noticed Itsu and Nick ignore me  that's because some people get things wrong and things get messed up:D :D :D say no more   :-X

Sil

AG,

I don't think so, probably for now what you're saying don't catch their interest. Nickz had been mute till you just mentioned him. Probably keeping cool for a while. Let sleeping dog lie.

We are making progress.

Maxolous
   
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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #320 on: 2023-07-04, 02:55:37 »
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   Perhaps you'd like to show us, that "progress". Ánd how your simple kacher or controlable TC, can produce a higher output than unity.
I would be most interested. As you seam to state things as if you know.   Said the sleeping dog...
 
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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #321 on: 2023-07-04, 09:41:50 »

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Quote from: Maxolous on 2023-07-03, 20:51:50
Itsu,
This build is a simple kacher. Top Ruslan 2014 modified. No interruption.
I have also showed that of controlled Tesla.
In simple kacher power source for both are same except you're putting mediator yoke coil which in this case ,no.
There must be hissing sound otherwise no interaction.

The modulation can not be 100% because it's a continuous running system.

Maxolous.



Max,

it seems we have a slight language barrier here, as some of your answers are confusing to me.

I asked: "Are your Kacher power supply and the Push-pull power supply one and the same?"

your answer: "In simple kacher power source for both are same except you're putting mediator yoke coil which in this case ,no."

The first part makes me think that's a yes, but the rest confuses me like the "no", what do you mean by that?  Also, what is a mediator yoke?

I asked: "Do you hear any hissing sounds and / or Radio Moscow (squealing sound)"

your answer: "There must be hissing sound otherwise no interaction."

Does that mean you do have this hissing sound, or that you like to have that?

I think any hissing sounds and / or squealing sound points to oscillations in the circuits, which is good when building an oscillator, but IMO bad news if you are building an amplifier which we basically do.


But thanks anyway, i will put up my push-pull yoke to see how that interacts with the rest.

Itsu
   
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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #322 on: 2023-07-04, 10:31:50 »

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Max,

it seems we have a slight language barrier here, as some of your answers are confusing to me.

I asked: "Are your Kacher power supply and the Push-pull power supply one and the same?"

your answer: "In simple kacher power source for both are same except you're putting mediator yoke coil which in this case ,no."

The first part makes me think that's a yes, but the rest confuses me like the "no", what do you mean by that?  Also, what is a mediator yoke?

I asked: "Do you hear any hissing sounds and / or Radio Moscow (squealing sound)"

your answer: "There must be hissing sound otherwise no interaction."

Does that mean you do have this hissing sound, or that you like to have that?

I think any hissing sounds and / or squealing sound points to oscillations in the circuits, which is good when building an oscillator, but IMO bad news if you are building an amplifier which we basically do.


But thanks anyway, i will put up my push-pull yoke to see how that interacts with the rest.

Itsu

Itsu

The answer is yes.
Am using the same power supply.

The second question is yes, but not too strong hissing at least you will hear sound of the ionisation of the immediate surrounding around the antenna.

Mediator yoke is a yoke coil put between supply and kacher . Some believe it enables interaction between pp and kacher quickly.

Maxolous
   
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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #323 on: 2023-07-04, 12:17:10 »

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Thanks Max,

so the hissing is more ionization, no oscillations.

This mediator yoke looks to me more like a choke preventing the HF from the kacher to get back into the PS.
Why some believe it enables interaction between pp and kacher quickly, seems far-fetched IMO.

Itsu
   
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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #324 on: 2023-07-04, 14:44:10 »
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    Max:
    Sorry for asking about your progress. I should have known better. Won't happen again.
   But, I had thought that you mentioned "progress". Must be another slight language barrier, here.

   All:
   I have been keeping quiet lately to give you all a chance to build up something, hopefully that works.
 And also to openly discuss what does not work, as well.
  As I believe that I already know what will happen when you try to match up those frequencies as you are doing.
And you are already finding that out yourselves, which takes some time.
But, unless you build a complete device, you will not know what works, or what doesn't.
  And that also takes some time, money, and a bit of work. For those interested, if any.
 
  Max: You are continuing to insult the moderator here, me. I can do without your insults. Last warning...

   NickZ
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