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F6FLT	Humour « on: 2022-12-23, 12:18:28 »
Group: Experimentalist Hero Member Posts: 2072	------------------------ Humour santa0.png (1858.02 kB, 1174x1165 - viewed 668 times.) --------------------------- "Open your mind, but not like a trash bin"

Hakasays	Re: Humour « Reply #1 on: 2022-12-23, 12:53:38 »
Hero Member Posts: 568	It's more sad than funny, getting called out for personal attacks then trying the same thing through thinly-veiled photoshop. Some tips that might help: https://leadingwithhumour.com/feature/knowing-your-audience-is-key/ --------------------------- "An overly-skeptical scientist might hastily conclude by scooping and analyzing a thousand buckets of ocean water that the ocean has no fish in it."

F6FLT	Re: Humour « Reply #2 on: 2022-12-23, 13:59:04 »
Group: Experimentalist Hero Member Posts: 2072	A "personal" attack has nothing to do with this humour, as everyone with a minimum of general knowledge already knows. I have often seen humour attacking some of my values. But I laughed anyway! It must be really sad to be unable to take a step back from your own point of view. "Humor as a Serious Strategy of Nonviolent Resistance to Oppression" https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1468-0130.2008.00488.x In FE as elsewhere, oppression comes from bigots who want you to accept everything from the "enlightened" people or ideas they believe in, and refuse to let you challenge them. It is the oppression of intolerant arbitrariness against critical thinking. When faith exceeds reason, it leads to integrism and oppression, which fights against humour and laughter, as Umberto Eco showed very well in "The name of the rose", which I invite everyone to read or re-read. --------------------------- "Open your mind, but not like a trash bin"

Chet K	Re: Humour « Reply #3 on: 2022-12-23, 14:26:22 »
Group: Ambassador Hero Member Posts: 4045	Well I suppose our host might have an opinion on these “seasoned greetings “ I would like to ask Santa 🤶 f he has the list of naughty patent suppressors and their Naughty deeds ? In a time where we are told the planet’s existence hangs in the balance Here just one sampling: a game changing tech actively hindered since 2009 ? ( last I heard over 5000 seizures of patents?) Plasma kinetics Metal Hydrides https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xA5cZnFfkkE Suppressed Hydrogen harvesting and storage technology ( since 2009 seized patent / marketing rights) https://plasmakinetics.com/ (suppression of tech explanation starts at about 3:30 mark in vid! Please Santa Can we the people see that naughty list ?( hindered or seized patents ?? Let us decide what is fantasy or …. Suppressed for profit by the naughty …

Hakasays	Better humor is to laugh at ourselves instead of others « Reply #4 on: 2022-12-23, 14:32:02 »
Hero Member Posts: 568	Experimenting with MOSFETS before learning about MOV's and Schottky bypass diodes: ------------------------ Humour zapp-brannigan.gif (1195.68 kB, 320x218 - viewed 413 times.) --------------------------- "An overly-skeptical scientist might hastily conclude by scooping and analyzing a thousand buckets of ocean water that the ocean has no fish in it."

F6FLT	Re: Better humor is to laugh at ourselves instead of others « Reply #5 on: 2022-12-23, 14:38:33 »
Group: Experimentalist Hero Member Posts: 2072	@Hakasays Ask Santa for this book: https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/60694460-become-funny-in-14-days See you next year. --------------------------- "Open your mind, but not like a trash bin"

Hakasays	Re: Humour « Reply #6 on: 2022-12-23, 14:47:17 »
Hero Member Posts: 568	------------------------ Humour images (10).jpeg (9.61 kB, 225x225 - viewed 411 times.) --------------------------- "An overly-skeptical scientist might hastily conclude by scooping and analyzing a thousand buckets of ocean water that the ocean has no fish in it."

F6FLT	Re: Humour « Reply #7 on: 2022-12-23, 14:56:34 »
Group: Experimentalist Hero Member Posts: 2072	------------------------ Humour Man-Woman-difference.jpg (151.44 kB, 1010x620 - viewed 388 times.) --------------------------- "Open your mind, but not like a trash bin"

Hakasays	Re: Humour « Reply #8 on: 2022-12-23, 15:04:02 »
Hero Member Posts: 568	------------------------ Humour 1222.png (1177.24 kB, 1079x904 - viewed 368 times.) --------------------------- "An overly-skeptical scientist might hastily conclude by scooping and analyzing a thousand buckets of ocean water that the ocean has no fish in it."

Grumpy	Re: Humour « Reply #9 on: 2022-12-23, 21:59:40 »
Group: Tinkerer Hero Member Posts: 3948 tExB=qr	Many of the devices listed in the "humorous" picture are known to actually work even if the working details were never revealed, and replications failed. Sadly, this shows that F6 is unwilling or incapable of conducting the "research" he preaches about. He's never applied the sacred "scientific method" to the devices he declares do not work. He'd rather poke fun at free energy than perform the work required to uncover the truth.

Chet K	Re: Humour « Reply #10 on: 2022-12-23, 23:02:41 »
Group: Ambassador Hero Member Posts: 4045	Personally I believe F6 ( previously known as Exnihiloest ) Has done plenty of experiments… he just doesn’t believe it’s possible Since he had no success! I remember another early member of this forum felt similar ( Marco) Many frustrated builders unable to get anything to self run with gain or looped With no battery or power supply (after initial startup! Always hitting a wall makes one numb or frustrated or …(F6.. And as of yet …we have no device that runs with gain unattached to the Wall socket or ….? To share open source for scrutiny! I personally believe _the perpetually seething sea of energy_ ..that encompasses every molecule or atom on the planet …and Beyond , Will get sorted in the very near future! Just like the DNA genome research has opened “life’s” deepest rabbit hole ! Tapping into _the wheel works of nature_ is the next thing on the menu ! Respectfully Chet K PS Regarding Marco ( also a big advocate of the PAGD) The PAGD and “other” is recently ( via AllCanadian) back on the menu … https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4406.msg102836;topicseen#msg102836 for perusal and discussion it seems ? A very early topic at this forum! Edit to F6 for FE holiday cheer below My comment on failed experiments and “what’s possible” was in reference to your Santa letter Sorry if I assumed … I did not realize you had just used the broad brush of dismissal without investigation … I had thought you referenced a few of those on your bench over the years And wishing for a return of the lost or wasted time ?? BTW Yes I know you look for FE in a much more scientific way ( as do most here ) « Last Edit: 2022-12-24, 17:54:53 by Chet K »

F6FLT	Re: Humour « Reply #11 on: 2022-12-24, 16:19:53 »
Group: Experimentalist Hero Member Posts: 2072	Quote from: Chet K on 2022-12-23, 23:02:41 Personally I believe F6 ( previously known as Exnihiloest ) Has done plenty of experiments… he just doesn’t believe it’s possible Since he had no success! ... Obviously this is false and defamatory, another drama of misunderstanding. I think it's possible, otherwise I wouldn't be here. But a possibility does not make a reality except for those who have not learned to think. The question is not about me. Neither I nor anyone else has succeeded. And don't tell me that I don't know how to recognise success, because I even believe in radio waves, which I don't even see. If someone had succeeded, then we can close this forum, it is no longer useful since humanity has free energy. No? Doesn't it have it? Then why say we would have it? I will tell you why. Because those who say so are either liars or blind believers unable to distinguish between their illusions and reality. While they should be providing the Ukrainians, who sorely need it, with this free energy that they claim already exists, they do nothing about it and prefer to amuse themselves by thinking that they would have it. Worse. The only energy that is produced is that from academic science but they despise it because fools always condemn what they don't understand. Chief kolbacict wisely asked in the other thread: Quote from: chief kolbacict on 2022-12-24, 07:18:28 ... Why do we distribute good wishes to each other, celebrate holidays, and why is there more and more evil in the world? The answer is the same as "why do we congratulate each other among suckers unable to get free energy"? Because we refuse reality but hope it will change and that each other's ideas and acts can be useful. We are right. The mistake is not to refuse reality, in the sense of wanting to change it, but to consider as reality what does not exist. Because then not only do we no longer need to work to have FE since we are supposed to have it already, not only instead do we have fun seeing miracles in the banal effects of the puerile conventional set-ups of the "FE experts", but worse, we point to scapegoats like politicians or scientists (and those like me who support them), who would be the cause of an impediment to the generalisation of the brilliant inventions of FE that we already have. At this level of stupidity causing perpetual failure, I can only see religious fundamentalists. It only takes 5% of them in a movement to make 90% of useful idiots follow them. Don't ask Santa for anything and use your brain. Merry Christmas! --------------------------- "Open your mind, but not like a trash bin"

solarlab	Re: Humour « Reply #12 on: 2022-12-24, 20:04:30 »
Group: Restricted Sr. Member Posts: 326	Thanks Santa - last piece is now solved and costs reduced by near 87%. https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4261.msg102697#msg102697 It is now affordable by nearly everyone! And build-able by many! [kits - maybe?] Complete Course with details will be on the new website hopefully early in the New Year... _{{until some guru proves that it does NOT work (Ho Ho Ho) - then we shall say it works!}} _{{BTW - over the last 10+ years on the Forums I have yet to observe any real Practical Engineering and Physics applied to the Study and Analysis of any of the potential excess energy devices that have appeared here over the years, by any members - do you think this might have some relationship to the failure rate?}} Seasons Greetings!

Allcanadian	Re: Humour « Reply #13 on: 2022-12-25, 06:01:15 »
Group: Moderator Hero Member Posts: 2735	Chet Quote Personally I believe F6 ( previously known as Exnihiloest ) Has done plenty of experiments… he just doesn’t believe it’s possible Since he had no success! I remember another early member of this forum felt similar ( Marco) I prefer hope... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kB3mZvCNN1c Carl Sagan Christmas Lecture 1 - The Earth as a Planet If you ever lose faith watch a video by Carl Sagan... AC --------------------------- Comprehend and Copy Nature... Viktor Schauberger “The first principle is that you must not fool yourself and you are the easiest person to fool.”― Richard P. Feynman

F6FLT	Re: Humour « Reply #14 on: 2022-12-26, 10:48:05 »
Group: Experimentalist Hero Member Posts: 2072	"Hope" is what allows men to be enslaved. Religion used it for centuries: man had to accept his terrible condition but he would be rewarded after his death! Of course, the clergy who kept this hope alive in the people took advantage of it. The naive are always the first to be exploited. In FE it's the same: you see people who advertise free energy while they subscribe to an energy supplier! And you see people buying free energy kits or plans! Hope at this level of stupidity, I call it superstition, and I leave it to whoever wants it. Long live science and its lucidity. But it's not for everyone. It takes a strong character to confront the facts without skewing everything by the magical thinking of hope. --------------------------- "Open your mind, but not like a trash bin"

Hakasays	Re: Unintended Humour « Reply #15 on: 2022-12-26, 13:26:55 »
Hero Member Posts: 568	Quote from: F6FLT on 2022-12-26, 10:48:05 "Hope" is what allows men to be enslaved. Religion used it for centuries: man had to accept his terrible condition but he would be rewarded after his death! Of course, the clergy who kept this hope alive in the people took advantage of it. The naive are always the first to be exploited. In FE it's the same: you see people who advertise free energy while they subscribe to an energy supplier! And you see people buying free energy kits or plans! Hope at this level of stupidity, I call it superstition, and I leave it to whoever wants it. Long live science and its lucidity. But it's not for everyone. It takes a strong character to confront the facts without skewing everything by the magical thinking of hope. ------------------------ Humour us-vs-them-160658.jpg (164 kB, 610x387 - viewed 165 times.) --------------------------- "An overly-skeptical scientist might hastily conclude by scooping and analyzing a thousand buckets of ocean water that the ocean has no fish in it."

chief kolbacict	Re: Humour « Reply #16 on: 2022-12-28, 15:28:20 »
Sr. Member Posts: 275	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuRn2S7iPNU

Allcanadian	Re: Humour « Reply #17 on: 2022-12-28, 23:02:27 »
Group: Moderator Hero Member Posts: 2735	I thought this was humorous... https://www.anquotes.com/richard-feynman-quotes/ I love reading Richard Feynman, the Nobel Prize winning physicists, take on things... This is only 10 of the 52 quotes on the website. “Nobody ever figures out what life is all about, and it doesn’t matter. Explore the world. Nearly everything is really interesting if you go into it deeply enough.” “A philosopher once said, ‘It is necessary for the very existence of science that the same conditions always produce the same results’. Well, they don’t!” “The worthwhile problems are the ones you can really solve or help solve, the ones you can really contribute something to. No problem is too small or too trivial if we can really do something about it.” “I would rather have questions that can’t be answered than answers that can’t be questioned.” “It doesn’t matter how beautiful your theory is, it doesn’t matter how smart you are. If it doesn’t agree with experiment, it’s wrong.” “Study hard what interests you the most in the most undisciplined, irreverent and original manner possible.” “All things are made of atoms—little particles that move around in perpetual motion, attracting each other when they are a little distance apart, but repelling upon being squeezed into one another. In that one sentence … there is an enormous amount of information about the world.” “I believe that a scientist looking at nonscientific problems is just as dumb as the next guy — and when he talks about a nonscientific matter, he will sound as naive as anyone untrained in the matter.” “Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts.” “The first principle is that you must not fool yourself and you are the easiest person to fool.” It's funny because he sounds just like most supposed FE inventors. He's not claiming we should just naively believe anything, more so a supposed expert. As Feynman claims, “Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts.” The message seems pretty clear, believe nothing, question everything and try to prove every matter for ourselves. AC --------------------------- Comprehend and Copy Nature... Viktor Schauberger “The first principle is that you must not fool yourself and you are the easiest person to fool.”― Richard P. Feynman

F6FLT	Re: Humour « Reply #18 on: 2022-12-29, 11:11:19 »
Group: Experimentalist Hero Member Posts: 2072	Quote from: Allcanadian on 2022-12-28, 23:02:27 ... “A philosopher once said, ‘It is necessary for the very existence of science that the same conditions always produce the same results’. Well, they don’t!” ... Funny how the modesty of physicists, and their recognition of the limits of their own knowledge, is used against them by ignorant people who have not understood anything about scientific doubt. It is clear that Feynman refers to quantum mechanics. But who can affirm that the conditions are exactly the same when the results are different? On the other hand, QM does not predict the result of the measurements, only their probability, and their probability is correct, the results of the experiments verify them. So it is a real knowledge, not ignorance. Physicists know their limits, but they also know that they know some things with a certain uncertainty, and that's why they have results, contrary to the ignorant people who label themselves as "free energy experts", when no useful product has ever come out of their nonsense. To look for common points between Feynman and an incompetent of free energy, when they have absolutely nothing in common, is ridiculous. The first one expresses doubts about the limits of his knowledge. The second one ignores his limits and bases his erroneous reasoning on the illogicality that, since everything is not known, anything is possible. No intelligent mind thinks that, and I think that the FE will only come from intelligent minds. --------------------------- "Open your mind, but not like a trash bin"

F6FLT	Re: Humour « Reply #19 on: 2022-12-29, 11:13:23 »
Group: Experimentalist Hero Member Posts: 2072	Broli passed us an excellent link recently: https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4403.0 We can see that academics are also looking for free energy, contrary to what the FE naysayers say. Those say that if we don't have FE, it's because scientists didn't look for it or that science is wrong. Without being a fortune teller, I can easily predict that scientists will have free energy long before we do, maybe they have it already if we believe Garret Moddel. We had a small chance to find it. But this chance has been drastically reduced because the FE movement has attracted a considerable number of believers and incompetents who fight science and refuse to use the scientific method, doubt, precise measurements, logical conclusions, and prefer to dream that they are new Teslas when, unlike him, none of them presents anything that works. In FE we only see them and their pretentious uselessness. Less than 5% of FE people produce new ideas and are able to experiment with them, but they are drowned out by the flood of nonsense from others. It is now difficult or impossible to extract anything from this background noise. --------------------------- "Open your mind, but not like a trash bin"

Allcanadian	Re: Humour « Reply #20 on: 2022-12-30, 02:37:15 »
Group: Moderator Hero Member Posts: 2735	F6FLT Quote To look for common points between Feynman and an incompetent of free energy, when they have absolutely nothing in common, is ridiculous. The first one expresses doubts about the limits of his knowledge. The second one ignores his limits and bases his erroneous reasoning on the illogicality that, since everything is not known, anything is possible. No intelligent mind thinks that, and I think that the FE will only come from intelligent minds. I find your reasoning a little misplaced considering you have supposedly been working on this problem for years and have nothing to show for it. I mean, if your so intelligent why do you keep failing?. AC --------------------------- Comprehend and Copy Nature... Viktor Schauberger “The first principle is that you must not fool yourself and you are the easiest person to fool.”― Richard P. Feynman

F6FLT	Re: Humour « Reply #21 on: 2023-01-01, 11:30:10 »
Group: Experimentalist Hero Member Posts: 2072	@AC The problem is not having nothing to show, but pretending that we have something when we have nothing. This is what we mostly see in the FE movement: people go around in circles with always the same subjects for 20 to 30 years, like those listed in the letter to Santa. I still haven't found anything but I can search on new subjects because I have eliminated a considerable number of dead ends, some of my own ideas, and those where I see 95% of people go astray, the pseudo-researchers of FE. A pseudo-researcher is a guy unable to formalize and test an idea, when he has a real one, which is rare, and who plays with conventional setups that others have presented to him as doing OU. He jumps like a goat every time he sees a classic effect that he doesn't understand, often because he doesn't understand much about physics, but he much prefers to argue with pseudo-scientific jargon around the latest fashionable nonsense in the field claiming that "we sure have FE". I find it hard to understand how with a little rationality, which I don't doubt you have so you should understand me, one can fall into these ridiculous traps of FE claims that have remained unfruitful for decades, or be unable to quickly debunk new claims that show the same symptoms of tales or scams. --------------------------- "Open your mind, but not like a trash bin"

Grumpy	Re: Humour « Reply #22 on: 2023-01-01, 16:47:13 »
Group: Tinkerer Hero Member Posts: 3948 tExB=qr	History has shown that people like Edison and Tesla can be beneficial to increasing our knowledge. Having disdain for one or the other is a waste of time and "energy". (Pun intended.)

chief kolbacict	Re: Humour « Reply #23 on: 2023-01-02, 09:20:09 »
Sr. Member Posts: 275	Quote from: F6FLT on 2023-01-01, 11:30:10 @AC He jumps like a goat every time he sees a classic effect that he doesn't understand, often because he doesn't understand much about physics, but he much prefers to argue with pseudo-scientific jargon around the latest fashionable nonsense in the field claiming that "we sure have FE". That's right..

Allcanadian	Re: Humour « Reply #24 on: 2023-01-02, 16:33:45 »
Group: Moderator Hero Member Posts: 2735	F6FLT It's a new year and your post has been removed because it was abusive and hateful as per OUR standard agreement. AC --------------------------- Comprehend and Copy Nature... Viktor Schauberger “The first principle is that you must not fool yourself and you are the easiest person to fool.”― Richard P. Feynman

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