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Author Topic: HHO Tubular Browns Gas Build  (Read 26403 times)
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The Joe Cell
Alex Schiffer and the Joe cell construction and operating details video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXWnLsx0d4Q

This arrangement of the Joe Cell tubes is similar to the the tubular HHO design here.

The inner is Positive and the outer tube to the Negative Battery terminal in the tubular vs the opposite in Joe Cell.

The Joe Cell was in the same time frame as Stan Meyers back in the '90's

More research needs to be done...
   
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I will not be posting more here for obvious reasons so don't ask questions.

Can you at least state what those "obvious reasons" are?

PW
   
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I will not be posting more here for obvious reasons so don't ask questions.

How can you break the water bond with little energy, that is the question to be answered.

Read here  https://scied.ucar.edu/learning-zone/sun-space-weather/plasma

When you extract electrons from an atom it becomes unstable, H2O has 10 electrons, hydrogen 1 X 2 and oxygen 8=10, remove an electron and the bond changes.

Enough said.

Regards

Mike

Do you have a NDA?

A non-disclosure agreement is a legally binding contract that establishes a confidential relationship. The party or parties signing the agreement agree that sensitive information they may obtain will not be made available to any others

As for me,
- I have not signed an NDA
- I am a Free Energy Researcher
- I shared my HHO secret on this forum

Tom Bearden sends his love,
Thank you Tom!!

https://cheniere.org/misc/water%20burn.htm



Sam Leach - of Los Angeles developed a revolutionary hydrogen extraction process


CORRESPONDENCE WITH DR. MYRON EVANS, DIRECTOR AND FOUNDER, AIAS GROUP

Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 12:52:21 -0700
To: EMyrone@aol.com,
From: "A.J. Craddock"
Subject: Re: Breaking Apart Water by Resonance

Hi Myron

It turns out that the "urban myth" of burning water, which has been around since around WWI, is not such an urban myth.

(The following information was given to me in confidence shortly before his death by noted free energy experimenter and Tom Bearden associate Walter Rosenthal,. He had been working on this).

Sam Leach - of Los Angeles developed a revolutionary hydrogen extraction process during the mid seventies. The unit extracted free hydrogen from water and was small enough to fit under the hood of automobiles. In 1976 two independent labs in LA tested this generator with perfect results. Mr M.J. Mirkin who began the Budget car rental system purchased the rights (and Patents) to the device from the inventor who was said to be very concerned about his personal security.

There was an article in "Motor Trend" magazine about it.  And then nothing more was heard about it.

Sam, as I understand it, is now in his '90s, and lives in Pebble Beach, Ca, and no longer talks about the process.  However I understand from reliable people peripheral to the original, and later, experiments, that the key to the whole process was/ is the addition of about 20 ppm of lithium (as lithium nitrate), and then the injection of the water at high pressure (around 500 psi).  When the lithium nitrate was simply put in the gas tank, higher levels of oxygen were measured in the tailpipe.

I pass this on to illustrate that the combustion of water may well not be just a pipedream.

Regards

Tony Craddock
 

 
« Last Edit: 2022-03-14, 05:15:46 by vrand »
   
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The Tom Bearden Website
https://cheniere.org/index.html

Water Fuel Sectiom

https://cheniere.org/misc/water%20burn.htm

    LETTER TO THE PRIME MINISTER OF CANADA
    From: Andrew Michrowski <paceincnet@gmail.com>
    Date: November 19, 2021 at 11:12:05 AM PST
    To: Prime Minister/Premier Ministre <pm@pm.gc.ca>

    Subject: Fwd: The Tom Bearden Website: Where Are Our Water Burning Cars...?

    
    Yes - where are they?
     
    Back in the 1980s we witnessed a 3-bedroom RV go 300,000 miles criss cross between Mexico and Canada at about 1,000 miles/gallon between the Mexican Presidency and the PMO in Ottawa several times driven by one of our co-founders.  When all failed - snow was packed in or salt marsh water was injected into the tank!  The tank only needed at least a litre of water to run the huge vehicle at a time (showing empty on the dial all the time).
     
    And all this talk about saving the environment, attenuating climate change!
     
    There exist variations of the water-as-a-fuel technology that do not require change to the combustion car engine - only tuning the carburetor - as demonstrated by a team of engineers of Electronics Australia many years ago - so we could still use the current set of millions of cars and gradually tune them to run on tap water as a fuel.  A German modelling exercise showed that doing so with actually reduce budgetary costs to governments mainly by creating new jobs and reducing environmental-degradation costs.


   
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The Tom Bearden Website cont.
https://cheniere.org/misc/water%20burn.htm


 300,000 miles criss cross between Mexico and Canada at about 1,000 miles/gallon between the Mexican Presidency and the PMO in Ottawa several times driven by one of our co-founders.  When all failed - snow was packed in or salt marsh water was injected into the tank!  The tank only needed at least a litre of water to run the huge vehicle at a time (showing empty on the dial all the time).



1 Liter of water
for 300,000 Miles travel in a
3-bedroom RV


Dr. Andrew Michrowski, President of PACE


Planetary Association for Clean Energy

300,000 Miles traveled in a RV on one liter of water?
That's pretty good yeah

This is important because it shows you don't use the HHO Gas

One Theory

The HHO gas acts like a conduit for the flow of the "free energy" from "the Enviornment" to the engine. ie Joe Cell

One theory is from Moray B King, is the HHO Gas PLASMA is cohering this sea of fluctuating energy called ZPE. even at absolute zero there is this sea of energy.

So, you don't need alot of the HHO Gas.  Just enough to kick-start the FLOW of infinite energy from the ZPE or other unknown sources.

That is what I think could be happening in these HHO Gas units. 
The current HHO flat plate Gas Cells out in the marketplace, increase MPG, as an additive to gasoline. So can increase MPG 20-50%

But the tubular HHO Brown's Gas units I have built so far, are in another league. 

HHO Water Gas looks promising to me...
More research needed
« Last Edit: 2022-03-14, 03:28:04 by vrand »
   
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The Tom Bearden Website cont.
https://cheniere.org/misc/water%20burn.htm

Tom Bearden sends more love,
Thank you Tom!!


  However I understand from reliable people peripheral to the original, and later, experiments, that the key to the whole process was/ is the addition of about 20 ppm of lithium (as lithium nitrate), and then the injection of the water at high pressure (around 500 psi).  When the lithium nitrate was simply put in the gas tank, higher levels of oxygen were measured in the tailpipe.

Some interesting testing TO DO List

- 20 ppm of lithium (as lithium nitrate) in distilled water, and
- then the injection of this Lithium water mix at high pressure (around 500 psi) into the engine combustion chamber


So a regular water mister of water/methanol fuel for racing can be converted to run with Lithium nitrate?

Maybe someone can try this out?

Add Lithium nitrate to a water mister instead of water/methanol fuel?


Freddy used a Bosch 3,000 psi water mister injection system,
for the 50KWp Onan, 6-cylinder Ford propane genset, converted to HHO gas, back in 2017.

Did Freddy also use  Lithium nitrate?
« Last Edit: 2022-03-15, 04:40:01 by vrand »
   
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Sam L. LEACH
Hydrogen Generator

http://www.rexresearch.com/leach/leach.htm

Motor Trend ( July 1982 )

H2O >>TC3 = Hydrogen Fuel
Jim McFarland


It has been suggested that hydrogen and oxygen atoms could be disassociated by the right process. If water were to be conditioned in terms of temperature and pressure, and subjected to a particular chemical substance (a reactant),contained oxygen atoms and released hydrogen atoms might result. In fact, this is the basis of the new  SLX process.

In an enclosed vessel, water is heated to a temperature of about 300 F it is next introduced into a reaction chamber containing material that will interact with water. Under specific conditions of temperature and pressure, the reactant captures oxygen atoms and holds them while releasing atoms of hydrogen.

 Leach says his device is really quite simple. Inside the case is an UNIDENTIFIED REACTANT METAL. Tap water is fed into the case and an electric charge is applied, turning the water to steam. The reactant metal SOAKS UP THE OXYGEN in the steam and the hydrogen THUS RELEASED is sucked out of the chamber by a vacuum device. Leach says the device needs a small charge of outside power to begin Page 1 the conversion process, but that after that it powers itself by using the heat produced by the chemical reaction.

Is the UNIDENTIFIED REACTANT METAL Lithium nitrate?
   
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Sam L. LEACH
Hydrogen Generator
cont.
http://www.rexresearch.com/leach/leach.htm

Photos of
1.7-liter engine installed in Omnia research’s Plymouth Horizon TC3
   
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The Early Prototypes from 2013 of the
Tubular HHO Brown's Gas
Water Fuel Cell


Steve s Movie HD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9w9n-x38DE

HHO Archived Videos

1.01K subscribers

Freddy video of the early prototypes of the tubular HHO gas fuel cells,
9-10 years ago, for Steve, one of his early clients with help from Doctor Rob



« Last Edit: 2022-03-15, 03:46:03 by vrand »
   
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The Early Prototypes from 2013 of the
Tubular HHO Brown's Gas
Water Fuel Cell
cont.

Who was Dr Rob?


Back in 2013, Freddy, with the help from a Doctor Rob, created the first public demonstration of the tubular HHO fuel cell

The video called "Steve's video" shows the two small tubular fuel cells in operation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9w9n-x38DE

That was ten years ago,
and that is where I am just now on my HHO tube cells build, here on this forum.

So Freddy has a 10-year head start on me, and anyone else for that matter.



In other news, the price of gasoline hits another high today...
 

   
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propane sHHO proto
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vqq_rPVkJME
Sep 8, 2013

HHO Archived Videos


Here is a propane conversion of a Toyota Truck - 20R Engine, to adding HHO gas to increase MPG, from 2013.

   
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Build V624 V1
Added 1/4" Holes in Tubes and End Caps
To Increase HHO Gas + Water Flow thru Cell


Four of the six tubes, 1/4" holes were drilled on the ends of the tubes and thru  the End Caps.
To test if there there is an increase in HHO gas and water flow through the cell,
on its way to the gas separator unit

This is to find out if the addition of holes allows more throughput of this cell design
Of this particularly design from 2012

This early design had 1/16" of cell Gaps.
That is really a tight design build.
And has many construction challenges for the HHO Builder

The next Cell design will test an increased tube cell Gap spacings from 1/16 to 1/8", for more HHO gas and water could flow through the cell, and for easier building.

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Build V624 V1
Added 1/4" Holes in Tubes and End Caps
To Increase HHO Gas + Water Flow thru Cell

Additional photos

Also increased input from 1/2" NPT to 3/4" NPT
« Last Edit: 2022-03-17, 03:51:27 by vrand »
   
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Threaded Rod,Nylon,#6-32, for centering the tubes for the 1/16" cell gaps.

Melted the nylon all-thread with soldering iron.
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Test with Ohm meter, if tubes are separated and not touching.
   
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Next Tubular HHO Cell Design with double the spacing, note the 0.185" spacing vs 0.065" spacing on current design.
 
   
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Input End Cap with the added 1/4" holes and tube holes
   
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Center 1/2" Rod - Pos Electrode, was drilled and epoxied to Output Endcap with SS wire tie.
   
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The 1" SS Tube added Output Endcap 1/4" holes

The 1.5" SS Tube holes not yet made.

 
   
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The 1.5" SS Tube holes now shown.
   
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The 1.25" SS Tube added Input Endcap 1/4" holes

but no holes in the 0.75" SS Tube
   
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Another approach shared by a longtime FE researcher in the open source community !
Ozone generator ?( I think ?)
https://youtu.be/CkQ3so9peWA

I will be playing with a few of these soon

Respectfully
Chet K

   
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Another approach shared by a longtime FE researcher in the open source community !
Ozone generator ?( I think ?)
https://youtu.be/CkQ3so9peWA

I will be playing with a few of these soon

Respectfully
Chet K

HHO gas research is fun and can even save fossil fuels by increasing MPG!

Adding Ozone is interesting idea!




 
   
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Adding Lithium or Lithium salt to the electrolyte, for possible HHO Gas OU Output

  "OU might be possible with Lithium (or a Lithium salt), because the nuclear reactions
   Li6 + H => He3 + He4
   Li7 + H => 2 He4

   may occur. Both of which would release fast particles that would split water molecules in a process called
   "radiolysis". If the conditions were right, a tiny amount of Lithium would produce a lot of gas.

   (Nuclear reactions generally produce on the order of a million times more energy than chemical reactions.       
   The Lithium reaction is nuclear, and splitting the water is chemical, so you would end up with roughly a million
   times more water being split than Lithium used."

   Robin van Spaandonk

   
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Transcript for Akula
Vid on running car posted # 221 this thread

Now here
https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4216.msg98072;topicseen#msg98072
 Video again

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CkQ3so9peWA&feature=youtu.be

Many thanks to Vasik for transcript
And member from India for sharing video today

Respectfully
Chet K
Ps
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Anything shows promise here
should get mirror topic at Other open source forum ( can be moderated there too)
   
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