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AlienGrey	Re: Don Smith Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #100 on: 2023-08-06, 04:43:13 »
Group: Guest	Quote from: NickZ on 2023-08-06, 02:40:52 AG: Not sure what your problem is, but Ape has not removed anything, nor added anything. Apecore still has as over 30 videos still listed on YouTube. Nothing is "gone". Nor anything "working", that I can see. NickZ No all that is there, What I said or meant was search on here for 'apecore' it comes up with error 404 not found try sending him a personal message like where is the video, you can't. find a post of his on a thread click on it and all links are gone you cant scroll through his posts they are gone. weird ! Sure you can search through the threads on his posts if you know where they are. but who wants to do that or has the time.

NickZ	Re: Don Smith Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #101 on: 2023-08-06, 14:00:30 »
Group: Guest	Ape got all upset about who knows what. He thinks that the private moderated threads are hiding something from him. He never had anything working. Probably never will. He was rude to me, nor did I ever do anything to him. Just trying to keep my thread on track, and progressing, instead, and not hiding anything from anybody. He was mad at me because he thought that I had locked him out, of course we know that never happened. All I ever wanted is to focus on this project. And see some results. Easier said than done... NickZ « Last Edit: 2023-08-06, 20:22:27 by NickZ »

Chet K	Re: Don Smith Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #102 on: 2023-08-08, 14:39:38 »
Group: Ambassador Hero Member Posts: 4045	Quote from: NickZ on 2023-08-06, 14:00:30 Ape got all upset about who knows what. He thinks that the private moderated threads are hiding something from him. He never had anything working. Probably never will. He was rude to me, nor did I ever do anything to him. Just trying to keep my thread on track, and progressing, instead, and not hiding anything from anybody. He was mad at me because he thought that I had locked him out, of course we know that never happened. All I ever wanted is to focus on this project. And see some results. Easier said than done... NickZ Actually There are groups of open source researchers and experimenters who work privately and are NOT anonymous to each other and speak or verify persons in group ..?( very important in todays AI world) ( huge issue for group integrity ) This is all over the planet .. With one goal Open source! .. just like a job ( no play all work … Every comment is towards the goal … There have been groups of such dedicated persons forever ( still are) This latest super conductor claim will most likely bring more together Hopefully Right on the front page of many open source venues! Nick For additional clarity This forum is an open source forum Administration would not allow it any other way .. Nor would we have it any other way .. You work towards a goal here Open source FE to the world Or go elsewhere.. Comments above are generic, not specifically addressed to any member. Honestly regarding Kapanadze/Don Smith type work Here a known path or theory towards a gain Is usually required ..( for groups to gather I am not aware of any such Kapanadze/Don Smith work in private groups ? All experiments done in the past eventuality found unforeseen gain from equipment Or grid or ? Inability to loop autonomous or tap into runaway gain ( once source is found ! The holy grail Batteries not included ( perhaps just for start up .. Respectfully Chet PS Not looking to derail topic No more from me

AlienGrey	Re: Don Smith Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #103 on: 2023-08-09, 10:36:49 »
Group: Guest	Hmm;It's the or else-where bit, there are some on both threads with power more than our own with the power to silence others one way or another by one form of deletion or another. It's a sorry state of affairs Sil

Classic	Re: Don Smith Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #104 on: 2023-08-12, 00:00:57 »
Group: Restricted Sr. Member Posts: 270	It might worth to have a look here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_resistance And some other sources: Quote Negative resistance is a concept in electronics and electrical engineering that may seem counterintuitive at first glance. In a standard resistive circuit element, such as a resistor, the current through the element increases in proportion to the voltage applied across it, following Ohm's law (V = I * R). This means that the resistance (R) is always positive. However, in certain specialized devices and circuits, it is possible to observe a negative resistance characteristic. Negative resistance implies that the current through the element decreases as the voltage across it increases. In other words, the direction of the current is opposite to what you would expect based on Ohm's law Some of the advantages of negative resistance include: - Oscillator and Signal Generation: Negative resistance is crucial in certain oscillator circuits. It allows for the generation of high-frequency oscillations without the need for additional active components like transistors or amplifiers. This property is utilized in devices like tunnel diode oscillators and Gunn diode oscillators, which find applications in microwave signal generation and communications systems. - Amplification:In some cases, negative resistance can be used for amplification purposes. When combined with positive resistance in a circuit, the overall gain can be enhanced, leading to increased signal levels and improved performance in specific frequency ranges. - Power Gain: Devices exhibiting negative resistance can offer power gain, meaning they can deliver more power at the output than the power supplied at the input. This property is beneficial in certain applications where power amplification is required without the use of additional amplifiers. - High-Frequency Operation: Components with negative resistance often operate effectively at high frequencies. This makes them suitable for applications in radio frequency (RF) circuits, microwave systems, and other high-frequency electronics. - Microwave Applications: Negative resistance devices like Gunn diodes are used in microwave applications for their ability to generate microwave signals efficiently without the need for complicated circuitry. Simple Circuit Design: Negative resistance devices can simplify circuit designs by eliminating the need for additional active elements, reducing complexity and component count in certain applications. To understand why Don Smith recommended magnetic ballast for neon sign. Quote Modern neon signs, like many other lighting systems, have transitioned to electronic ballasts, which offer advantages such as increased efficiency, reduced flickering, and more precise control over the lighting output. However, older neon signs may still use magnetic ballasts with the described negative resistance characteristics during the initial ignition phase. That’s why fluorescent lighting has been replaced at global scale. Old magnetic ballast with HV and HF was £15-20 ew electronic ballast (incapable of negative resistance ) cost +£60 … they made us paying for the ban imposed globally That’s why all devices capable to output FE were made with old components, or in some cases without anything complicated, please check any videos. Make sure you have intended load connected when you switch on your fe device designed and calculated fro known input and desired load, no need for fancy oscilloscope as can be done with simple trial and error and resonance can be found with an old fluorescent tube hold in hand along wire direction in close proximity of coil. Note that “positive resistance”+ “negative resistance” would yield spectacular results with simple and cheap circuits. Couple of coils, neon ballast, 1 battery few resistors and capacitors which most of them can be scavenged from old appliances. If anyone think that I am off topic please remove my post.

partzman	Re: Don Smith Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #105 on: 2023-08-12, 13:33:52 »
Group: Experimentalist Hero Member Posts: 1808	Quote from: Classic on 2023-08-12, 00:00:57 It might worth to have a look here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_resistance And some other sources: To understand why Don Smith recommended magnetic ballast for neon sign. That’s why fluorescent lighting has been replaced at global scale. Old magnetic ballast with HV and HF was £15-20 ew *electronic ballast (incapable of negative resistance )* cost +£60 … they made us paying for the ban imposed globally That’s why all devices capable to output FE were made with old components, or in some cases without anything complicated, please check any videos. Make sure you have intended load connected when you switch on your fe device designed and calculated fro known input and desired load, no need for fancy oscilloscope as can be done with simple trial and error and resonance can be found with an old fluorescent tube hold in hand along wire direction in close proximity of coil. Note that “positive resistance”+ “negative resistance” would yield spectacular results with simple and cheap circuits. Couple of coils, neon ballast, 1 battery few resistors and capacitors which most of them can be scavenged from old appliances. If anyone think that I am off topic please remove my post. Classic, Your statement concerning electronic ballasts is totally incorrect! I manufactured S/S ballasts for years and they work the same as magnetic ballasts in regards to the negative lamp resistance however, they work at a much higher efficacy, efficiency, both input and output power factor, and quality of light. In our designs, the leakage inductance between primary and secondary supplied the needed "ballast" for lamp starting only at a greatly lowered value compared to the 50/60Hz magnetic ballasts. I hold a patent for a technique to Very Rapid Start a lamp in ~1ms instead of the typical >20ms which had the effect of increasing lamp life 10-20x. Due to this, we lost our ability to manufacture product which is another story altogether. BTW, our S/S ballasts were poised to compete with magnetic ballasts on a price basis due to low component count and automated assembly. Regards, Pm Moderator, please remove if so desired.

Classic	Re: Don Smith Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #106 on: 2023-08-12, 17:26:38 »
Group: Restricted Sr. Member Posts: 270	@partzman, I can’t say anything about YOUR ballast as didn’t end up in the market -shops, but I can tell I can’t make them work in any device those “ new”electronic, they change everything and that magnetic field was useful indeed, it played his role in circuit. At least I lack the knowledge for electronics. Electronic ballasts indeed they offer negative resistance but isn’t useful in this setup and it is a lot easier to make bespoke coils than bespoke electronic components … I’m not saying it can’t be done, but as long as fe is denied for John Doe you won’t see any electronics that could work to yield more than few hundreds milliwatt at best, yet all tech is available for mass production. If we get in the open 10-100k devices we might force them to acknowledge a very successful breakthrough of science and start to change everything as we know, but … for what price ? That might not be what anybody expect … just look what they did with graphene and how they keep saying nowadays that the right price is +65k per tonne while in mass production with my kitchen I can get equivalent of £6k per tonne. The big boys nowadays don’t buy any patents, nor paying any royalties, they just get the patent in their labs or nothing at all and bury anything else being humans or concepts/patents. They got far too much power and this must end, as their practice is utterly destructive. Or it may a modern launch witch hunt to preserve the right order and war against each other on the earth time will tell We need to stop saying electrons travel in electric flow, they don’t go anywhere unless there is degradation/modification of the material we refer for those electrons “travelling”. Electrons transmit signal which can be + (negative resistance) or - Electricity is everywhere on planet earth in the soil or in atmosphere. When we get “power” from electricity we just short + and - in a specific way being that a motor, a bulb, a led, microwave oven … whatever, exploiting materials physical properties along with magnetic force. Because we use electricity with magnetic force, they are packed together. Shorting transformers isn’t difficult as I’ve seen someone complaining, if a solid core is used, it needs to have an air gap or magnet filled gap, while in akulla, Don, Kapanadze an air gap is employed to make this short easier. Copper used in coils behave completely different at high voltage AND high frequency, don’t be afraid to experiment (as long as you put safety first). Combine negative resistance with positive resistance (from shorted transformers) at high frequency for power gain, spark gap/ gas discharge tubes help with frequency, ground or counterpoise yield less positive charge (or negative if you prefer). Nature will bring everything to balance, equilibrium, whatever you do, so create disturbance in one of the 2 (air/atmosphere/above the ground or water) to trick the other field to think there is an assault from the other side or leakage from their side and harvest on the side where you don’t intervene. The greater the disturbance, the greater flow from the other side will flow in your circuits. Your coils along with all effects impinged on the ground (or counterpoise) at high frequency, excited by a little source (battery) will make the ground to bring equal and opposite full force to your collection/storage device. Collection point needs to be seen by this 2 fields as the front battle line, they deliver full force exactly where you want. Just use the load you wish to power up. Bear in mind that your device IS SITTING on the ground By looping a battery you already get negative resistance, but you need to loop after load not before as you change the frontline battle. Or if you don’t like batteries, use radiant energy, or any little source which is available 24/7 non-weather and non day light dependant. We need to be creative using a lot of imagination to be able to use off the shelf or recycle appliances, as they already start to control and restrict availability for almost all materials and components we might use. There is already a lot of devices in use around the world and artificial recession is created in an attempt to stop their proliferation. I can’t be more clear than that.

AlienGrey	Re: Don Smith Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #107 on: 2023-08-13, 10:40:22 »
Group: Guest	Note Sunday 13th August 10:20 NickZ is up to his old tricks again he has locked his thread again!

Maxolous	Re: Don Smith Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #108 on: 2023-08-13, 11:36:55 »
Sr. Member Posts: 389	Quote from: AlienGrey on 2023-08-13, 10:40:22 Note Sunday 13th August 10:20 NickZ is up to his old tricks again he has locked his thread again! oops sounds like some one else locked it oops strange! thought i had better update this so as not to offend! Sil AG, I don't think so , I just made a post now. Anyhow, he doesn't like complicated circuits and relativities to do with calculations and so forth. ;DI do hope my dear friend was not skipping class when he was in school. Maxolous « Last Edit: 2023-08-13, 23:00:04 by AlienGrey »

NickZ	Re: Don Smith Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #109 on: 2023-08-13, 18:21:31 »
Group: Guest	AG: If I had locked anyone out, I would tell you so. Ape is still mad at me, thinking that I locked him out. Well, it wasn't me. Although, it sounds like a reasonable thing to do...when people get rude and insulting, like what Max likes to do. You ever wonder why some guys don't answer you??? It's you AG, up to your old tricks...again NickZ

Chet K	Re: Don Smith Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #110 on: 2023-08-13, 18:47:54 »
Group: Ambassador Hero Member Posts: 4045	Nick Not sure who’s is who’s anymore The other topic is locked ( for me anyway) As a topic moderator it may appear the same to “you” ( Nick) However , It is not that view to others ( no place to reply) Check bottom of screen ( scroll down) This is how a locked topic looks ( has unlock as option , which means topic is Already locked) Maybe an accident? ------------------------ Don Smith Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. IMG_9343.jpeg (37.83 kB, 735x120 - viewed 387 times.)

NickZ	Re: Don Smith Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #111 on: 2023-08-13, 21:19:23 »
Group: Guest	Chet: All I know, as I have already mentioned various times now, is that I have not locked out or moderated any one. I have removed a couple of rude posts, and I mentioned it at the time, in case some of you have a poor memory. The rest of it, is not my doing, and I had asked you Chet to please look into this, a while back. As even Verpies could not post on my thread, (not this one). I had thought that this had been corrected. But, I guess not, at least for some members. Sorry guys, I don't know what is going on with this, so, please don't feel that I am locking any one out. Grum, thanks for your comment, hopefully this issue can be corrected soon. NickZ « Last Edit: 2023-08-13, 23:11:11 by NickZ »

Chet K	Re: Don Smith Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #112 on: 2023-08-13, 22:48:43 »
Group: Ambassador Hero Member Posts: 4045	Nick As moderator of bench When you look at your bench It will look no different locked or unlocked All the “reply “ etc buttons will appear normal However … When you scroll down and check if it reads “Unlock topic” That means It is locked to membership.( they don’t see reply buttons like you do as bench moderator) And if it is normal will have “Lock topic “ Option showing ! Seeing lock topic option means all is well. Odd Grum mentioned a date last month where he thought he accidentally locked it ( might be since it is not his bench , forum benchmarks his actions (he shows as the person/ administrator who locked it ) Forum may not take notice of you locking your own bench ( in administrative section ) And yet there have been posts made since Grumages accidentally locking last month ? And today it was locked Here again screenshot from today ..your bench thread prior to Grumage unlocking it . When you check your bench topics please check this area at bottom of page And if it looks like screenshot below, It’s locked Perhaps this is accidental?( obviously) I think I did speak with Peter last time and it was _let him know _ if it happens again.. Now you can check it ( will help him know what is going on) Thanks ------------------------ Don Smith Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. IMG_9343.jpeg (37.83 kB, 735x120 - viewed 304 times.)

Itsu	Re: Don Smith Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #113 on: 2023-08-14, 09:17:40 »
Group: Elite Experimentalist Hero Member Posts: 4159	Please look at Graham his post in Nick his thread here: https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4471.msg106151#msg106151 That would explain what had happened. Itsu

NickZ	Re: Don Smith Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #114 on: 2023-08-18, 02:53:31 »
Group: Guest	Itsu, Chet, or Grum. Can you check about what happened to my thread. As it does not appear on the topics list. Thanks, NickZ

Itsu	Re: Don Smith Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #115 on: 2023-08-18, 09:13:57 »
Group: Elite Experimentalist Hero Member Posts: 4159	Hi Nick, I cannot see any of my posts from that thread anymore, so they must be gone. It looks if the whole thread is deleted. Itsu

AlienGrey	Re: Don Smith Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #116 on: 2023-08-18, 10:34:36 »
Group: Guest	It's not good it was valuable information, all of it was, it's all deleted from the post records too. so, all the hyperlinks are gone too. But the thing is Nick said he asked admin to delete his thread. So what more can be said. If it's of any use my internet provider software saved the last page from 12 pm last night, but Nick had deleted a good few postings and hyperlinks to important stuff Peterae asked for via Chet. Sil

Grumage	Re: Don Smith Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #117 on: 2023-08-18, 11:05:38 »
Group: Renaissance Man Hero Member Posts: 2765	Hi Guys. Thread reinstated. The log states that NickZ removed the topic @ 00:22 hrs this morning. Cheers Grum. --------------------------- Nanny state ? Left at the gate !!

AlienGrey	Re: Don Smith Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #118 on: 2023-08-20, 15:25:24 »
Group: Guest	img Itsu Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #1 on: 2023-05-24, 10:00:04 » Group: Elite Experimentalist Hero Member ***** Posts: 3823 Hi Nick, looking good, thanks for opening this thread. Hopefully the Admin can fix the problem that this thread is not visible when not logged in or for non-members. Anyway, i just was setting up my Grenade/Inductor/Antenna on new 3D printed stands to start making some measurements on the different parts of the Ruslan setup starting with this Grenade: F.I. i want to figure out if there can be standing waves present in this Grenade/inductor and under what conditions. Regards Itsu ------------------------ Grenade on stand small.png * Grenade on stand small.png (1041.99 kB, 1008x756 - viewed 485 times.) img Maxolous Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #2 on: 2023-05-24, 13:17:00 » Sr. Member ** Posts: 325 Nice Grenade you have here Itsu. Minimum inductance. Inductance cancellation, but you can't get zero: clockwise and counterclockwise. Regards img NickZ Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #3 on: 2023-05-24, 15:26:01 » Group: Moderator Hero Member * Posts: 614 Itsu: Wow, what a great looking grenade, as well as your 3D printed stand. You seam to have to most accurate replication that I've seen yet. And hopefully with your help, we can crack this nut. My thoughts on this is that we are close, and that it's probably only a tuning issue to resolve. So, we should not throw our baby out, with the bath water. Max: Thank for your comments, and ideas. NickZ img Maxolous Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #4 on: 2023-05-24, 16:55:57 » Sr. Member Posts: 325 Quote from: NickZ on 2023-05-24, 15:26:01 Itsu: Wow, what a great looking grenade, as well as your 3D printed stand. You seam to have to most accurate replication that I've seen yet. And hopefully with your help, we can crack this nut. My thoughts on this is that we are close, and that it's probably only a tuning issue to resolve. So, we should not throw our baby out, with the bath water. Max: Thank for your comments, and ideas. NickZ Nice you have your tread now Nickz. We wish to see better things happening. Maxolous img Itsu Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #5 on: 2023-05-24, 19:55:59 » Group: Elite Experimentalist Hero Member * Posts: 3823 Thanks Max, Nick, that Grenade i build 2 years ago with the help of Vasik and his translations. I don't think it was designed to be "inductance cancellation" as we still have more turns counterclockwise than clockwise (or the other way around) and for what reason do we need an inductionless coil? We might then use only a capacitor as that is what is left. Anyway, i will do some measurements with my nanoVNA to see how the inductance varies over a frequency range and at what frequency it flips over (the zero inductance point) from an inductance to capacitance (if doing so). Let's see what we can come up with. Itsu img NickZ Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #6 on: 2023-05-25, 14:24:37 » Group: Moderator Hero Member *** Posts: 614 Sounds good itsu, and I hope that Vasik and any of the other guys interested will also join in, and build some devices. As there are no better self running devices around, as yet. Since we don't really know what it takes to get these devices to self run, it's best to build true replications, of which there are really only just a very few. I understand from Vasik, I think it was, that Stalker built up 25 grenades, to finally get one that worked. Max: Did you figure out why your unit is flipping the over amp protection circuit. Does your mosfet get real hot. It may be that you have too much current going in. I use a couple of chokes at the input, as well as some filter caps, as per the Ruslan, or Stalker's schematic. This diagram below, was for the induction circuit that I replicated. NickZ ------------------------ Do you mean this(2).png * Do you mean this(2).png (139.35 kB, 688x340 - viewed 380 times.) img Frederik2k1 Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #7 on: 2023-05-25, 16:58:17 » Newbie * Posts: 33 Quote from: NickZ on 2023-05-25, 14:24:37 Since we don't really know what it takes to get these devices to self run, it's best to build true replications, of which there are really only just a very few. We don't really know the physics behind the overunity effect, e.g. from what source is the extra energy coming from and what mechanism does it take to get this effect realized. If there where a simple setup just demonstrating this, it would be obvious how to build kilowatts devices. But there are almost as much theories about the device operation as there are devices variations on the internet to find. img Centraflow Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #8 on: 2023-05-25, 18:09:44 » Group: Experimentalist Hero Member ***** Posts: 2764 Buy me a beer Quote from: Itsu on 2023-05-24, 19:55:59 Thanks Max, Nick, that Grenade i build 2 years ago with the help of Vasik and his translations. I don't think it was designed to be "inductance cancellation" as we still have more turns counterclockwise than clockwise (or the other way around) and for what reason do we need an inductionless coil? We might then use only a capacitor as that is what is left. Anyway, i will do some measurements with my nanoVNA to see how the inductance varies over a frequency range and at what frequency it flips over (the zero inductance point) from an inductance to capacitance (if doing so). Let's see what we can come up with. Itsu It probably is a multi-wave LC delay line or in the sound industry a vibrator/echo chamber. As I do not know how it is wound (a diagram would be good), that is a guess. See attached which is multi-phase if the inductances are different on each side. Regards Mike ------------------------ Multiple pulse delay line.png * Multiple pulse delay line.png (10.6 kB, 1495x1060 - viewed 327 times.) --------------------------- "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident." Arthur Schopenhauer, Philosopher, 1788-1860 As a general rule, the most successful person in life is the person that has the best information. img Apecore Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #9 on: 2023-05-25, 19:53:05 » Group: Guest I posted the wrong tread, need to get used to this site. img Apecore Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #10 on: 2023-05-25, 20:01:41 » Group: Guest Quote from: Itsu on 2023-05-24, 10:00:04 H F.I. i want to figure out if there can be standing waves present in this Grenade/inductor and under what conditions. Regards Itsu Hi Itsu, I did a lot of work on grenade research together with Lostbro years ago. Our goal was to create a grenade 37.5m which also has its resonance frequency at 2Mhz. The wirelength of 37.5m would give a oppertunity to create a 1/4 standingwave at 2Mhz which means it has double resonance. Vew months ago I succeeded in realizing this 2Mhz resonance goal. img Itsu Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #11 on: 2023-05-25, 21:11:20 » Group: Elite Experimentalist Hero Member *** Posts: 3823 Quote from: Centraflow on 2023-05-25, 18:09:44 It probably is a multi-wave LC delay line or in the sound industry a vibrator/echo chamber. As I do not know how it is wound (a diagram would be good), that is a guess. See attached which is multi-phase if the inductances are different on each side. Regards Mike Mike, thanks for your insights, my Grenade coil is wound as mentioned here: https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=3926.msg91333#msg91333 Itsu img Itsu Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #12 on: 2023-05-25, 21:33:39 » Group: Elite Experimentalist Hero Member *** Posts: 3823 Quote from: Apecore on 2023-05-25, 20:01:41 Hi Itsu, I did a lot of work on grenade research together with Lostbro years ago. Our goal was to create a grenade 37.5m which also has its resonance frequency at 2Mhz. The wirelength of 37.5m would give a oppertunity to create a 1/4 standingwave at 2Mhz which means it has double resonance. Vew months ago I succeeded in realizing this 2Mhz resonance goal. Hi Ape, good to see you here, i think Nick can now remove your wrong post in the other thread I used my nanoVNA to measure the Grenade especially the inductance (upper graph) and the impedance (lower graph) over a 10kHz to 20Mhz range. But i first made the same measurement using a 47uH choke for comparing: The result of this 47uH choke is this: So we see a slowly increasing impedance (lower graph of the 2) till resonance at 10Mhz. Then i used my Grenade: The result of my Grenade looks like this: So we see a starting inductance of around 160uH at 15kHz (upper graph of the 2) till a resonance at just under 2mHz So my Grenade (inclusive Inductor and Antenna) has similar parameters as yours (2Mhz resonance). Itsu ------------------------ Grenade on stand smaller.png * Grenade on stand smaller.png (315.68 kB, 504x378 - viewed 360 times.) 47uH choke smallest.png * 47uH choke smallest.png (145.69 kB, 596x253 - viewed 362 times.) 47uH 20mHz sweep nanoVNA 70.png * 47uH 20mHz sweep nanoVNA 70.png (385.23 kB, 1350x734 - viewed 352 times.) Grenade 20mHz sweep nanoVNA 70.png * Grenade 20mHz sweep nanoVNA 70.png (392.94 kB, 1350x734 - viewed 354 times.) « Last Edit: 2023-05-26, 09:06:04 by Itsu » img Maxolous Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #13 on: 2023-05-26, 07:04:50 » Sr. Member ** Posts: 325 Quote from: NickZ on 2023-05-25, 14:24:37 Max: Did you figure out why your unit is flipping the over amp protection circuit. Does your mosfet get real hot. It may be that you have too much current going in. I use a couple of chokes at the input, as well as some filter caps, as per the Ruslan, or Stalker's schematic. This diagram below, was for the induction circuit that I replicated. NickZ Hi Nickz, Am still working on it. I think it's the back emf effect and I have used snubber circuit to reduce that ,. But it's not enough. I really want to get the voltage feeding my Tesla controlled circuit up to 130vdc and above because that is where the effect is in most cases. At that stage you see it shaking violently on scope. As for weather my transistor is hot the answer is no. Maxolous img Itsu Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #14 on: 2023-05-26, 09:41:44 » Group: Elite Experimentalist Hero Member * Posts: 3823 Hi Max, when you say "At that stage (>130V input) you see it shaking violently on scope" what do you mean with "it"? Is it not the intense HV HF from the kacher influencing your scope? I remember several times with a strong kacher my scopes go crazy. Itsu img NickZ Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #15 on: 2023-05-26, 14:13:09 » Group: Moderator Hero Member * Posts: 614 apecore: Good to see you here, and that you are posting again, and hopefully building and testing also. I followed you on the OU.com thread, but, you quit posting there. So, good to see you here. I'm also hoping that Geofusion chimes in, "Hello there guys", as well. And any other builders, like Vasik, Tomtech, and of course me as well, as I plan to focus on these devices, and continue on with the tests and trials. I'll let my other thread on this forum, go out of site. As I can't seam to be able to remove it. NickZ PS. Max carefull with those high Kacher voltages, once you have a scope. You may have to NOT use the negative black scope lead, as once you put both leads on the induction circuits, with the Kacher also on, you'll be grounding the positive Kacher pulse to ground, through the scopes negative lead, due to the scope's grid tied ground connection. As well as sending all that voltage to your push pull's delicate circuit. Also at 130v the HV streamer will ground out, anywhere it can. The effect generation has been shown working even as low as 12v. Ruslan mentioned that you don't need a "strong Kacher". The ideas is NOT to add, but to interrupt the induction circuit's field instead. Of course when adding 130v to the circuit, things will fry, immediately. Just trying to avoid you burning up your scope, and circuits. But, I did notice that your streamer can be barely seen, so, not sure if you have the duty cycle set very low, or why that spark is so small. Anyway, good luck with your set up. img Maxolous Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #16 on: 2023-05-26, 14:13:39 » Sr. Member Posts: 325 Quote from: Itsu on 2023-05-26, 09:41:44 Hi Max, when you say "At that stage (>130V input) you see it shaking violently on scope" what do you mean with "it"? Is it not the intense HV HF from the kacher influencing your scope? I remember several times with a strong kacher my scopes go crazy. Itsu Hi Itsu, By comparison; when you compare the scope shot of this video ;https://youtu.be/J7du9f-f9t0 To the scope shot of this; https://youtu.be/oC-YP1aDj4Q , you will notice the difference in signal movement. The later could not attain the violent movement of the former because voltage lever is low(maximum 65vdc) and few pulses. Any attempt to increase either of them( voltage or pulse) beyond a certain limit, device will trip off. Whereas, that is the moment of current addition. Maxolous img Maxolous Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #17 on: 2023-05-26, 14:27:29 » Sr. Member Posts: 325 Quote from: NickZ on 2023-05-26, 14:13:09 NickZ PS. Max carefull with those high Kacher voltages, once you have a scope. You may have to NOT use the negative black scope lead, as once you put both leads on the induction circuits, with the Kacher also on, you'll be grounding the positive Kacher pulse to ground, through the scopes negative lead, due to the scope's grid tied ground connection. As well as sending all that voltage to your push pull's delicate circuit. Also at 130v the HV streamer will ground out, anywhere it can, unless you tone down the duty cycle. And if the Kacher coils aren't tuned to the right self running frequency, the circuits frequency trim pots controller will not really make up for it. Thanks for the piece of advice. Quote from: NickZ on 2023-05-26, 14:13:09 Ruslan mentioned that you don't need a "strong Kacher". He was referring to those blazing Tesla coil build like those called Slayer that could arc up to 20cm and above. Quote from: NickZ on 2023-05-26, 14:13:09 The ideas is NOT to add, but to interrupt the induction circuit's field instead. If it doesn't interrupt how will it add. Maxolous Max: The kacher signal will do nothing to improve the output of the induction circuit pulse, IF, the kacher signal is not in resonance. And if you don't have a proper earth ground line, also. Your kacher looks too long to provide for the right frequency needed. About 1.5MHz or so. Not like yours which is running at too low a frequency for resonance. 5mm streamers should be long enough, more will cause problems. There should be no violent shaking going on. That is not a good sign. Please connect some bulbs. To see any real interaction. The load of bulbs needs to be above 300 to 500 watts, so as to not be fooled by the improved output, due to the addition of more voltage and current from the Kacher. A smaller load of bulbs will light up more, but, with no OU, nor able to self run. So, don't be fooled by that. « Last Edit: 2023-05-26, 15:24:43 by NickZ » img NickZ Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #18 on: 2023-05-26, 14:42:29 » Group: Moderator Hero Member * Posts: 614 Max, the ideas is not to ADD, anything. The purpose of the Kacher is an interruptor circuit, not meant to ADD. Meant to STOP the induction circuit, instead. For those that think that what Ruslan said about a simple kacher not able to add anything, because it's AC signal will take away what it gives, should see my video, showing how I can light even a 100w bulb, at the grenade's output, with just my Kacher on. NickZ img Maxolous Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #19 on: 2023-05-26, 14:50:35 » Sr. Member Posts: 325 Quote from: NickZ on 2023-05-26, 14:42:29 Max, the ideas is not to ADD, anything. The purpose of the Kacher is an interruptor circuit, not meant to ADD. Meant to STOP the induction circuit, instead. For those that think that what Ruslan said about a simple kacher not able to add anything, because it's AC signal will take away what it gives, should see my video, showing how I can light even a 100w bulb, at the grenade's output, with just my Kacher on. NickZ Does the whole kacher process subtract? img NickZ Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #20 on: 2023-05-26, 15:09:37 » Group: Moderator Hero Member * Posts: 614 The idea of the kacher is that it is what Tesla calls an interrupter circuit. Meant to stop the induction circuits pulse, so that voltage as well as current will be increased. Like my analogy of pinching and quickly releasing the water hose, to see how it increases the force of the water. In our case, the output at the bulbs, and at the feed back circuit. Much of what Ruslan mentioned, is BS. If it wasn't for Oleg, his circuit builder, he would have nothing to show for it. I do trust what Stalker says, instead. And he has the best videos. NickZ img Maxolous Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #21 on: 2023-05-26, 15:48:21 » Sr. Member Posts: 325 Quote from: NickZ on 2023-05-26, 15:09:37 The idea of the kacher is that it is what Tesla calls an interrupter circuit. Meant to stop the induction circuits pulse, so that voltage as well as current will be increased. Like my analogy of pinching and quickly releasing the water hose, to see how it increases the force of the water. In our case, the output at the bulbs, and at the feed back circuit. Much of what Ruslan mentioned, is BS. If it wasn't for Oleg, his circuit builder, he would have nothing to show for it. I do trust what Stalker says, instead. And he has the best videos. NickZ Am glad you said voltage and current will increase, that's increase in power Maxolous img NickZ Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #22 on: 2023-05-26, 16:48:26 » Group: Moderator Hero Member * Posts: 614 Max: Yes, that is the idea. Now, to put it to the test. But, tuning is the toughest part, and not easy to get the all the right frequencies working properly, as they should. That is why this is all so difficult to do. And if the grenade output is not sufficient, the feed back circuit will not produce hardly any output, and possibly not even light its green Led indicator. NickZ img Itsu Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #23 on: 2023-05-26, 16:52:26 » Group: Elite Experimentalist Hero Member *** Posts: 3823 Quote from: Maxolous on 2023-05-26, 14:13:39 Hi Itsu, By comparison; when you compare the scope shot of this video ;https://youtu.be/J7du9f-f9t0 To the scope shot of this; https://youtu.be/oC-YP1aDj4Q , you will notice the difference in signal movement. The later could not attain the violent movement of the former because voltage lever is low(maximum 65vdc) and few pulses. Any attempt to increase either of them( voltage or pulse) beyond a certain limit, device will trip off. Whereas, that is the moment of current addition. Maxolous Max, so looking at both screenshots: I see 1st screenshot the (yellow) kacher ringing down completely, but it seems the kacher signal is not there all the time it seems to skip 1 or 2 pulses compared to the blue square wave, making it look like a violent type of signal. But you trigger on the blue signal using a video type triggering and the blue and yellow signals are very low amplitude (500mV/div. only). Also, the blue signal frequency is 46kHz but as said with very low (too low?) amplitude. The kacher signal seems to be synced to the start of the blue rising pulse. In the 2nd screenshot i see the yellow kacher signal more as unidirectional pulses at 5V/div and also the blue square wave is now 5V/div, but at a lower frequency of 25kHz. You now trigger on the blue signal rising edge, with the yellow kacher signal synced to almost half of the blue signal pulse. So what i am trying to say is that both screenshots show very different circumstances and settings and without any information on where these signals are taken from (diagram), it is very difficult to diagnose any problems. This and the almost impossibility to hear anything you are saying makes it virtually impossible to help you i am afraid. Could you more specifically tell what you mean with "device will trip off", what will trip? Do you have an automatic fuse tripping? Itsu ------------------------ Max 1st screenshot.png * Max 1st screenshot.png (301.1 kB, 534x365 - viewed 445 times.) Max 2nd screenshot.png * Max 2nd screenshot.png (322.94 kB, 576x432 - viewed 465 times.) img NickZ Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #24 on: 2023-05-26, 17:43:49 » Group: Moderator Hero Member ***** Posts: 614 Another point that I want to mention, is that the Kacher signal pulse may need to be ideally placed at the Off time of the push pull signal pulse, instead of on the ON time. As there is less resistance at the OFF times. But, of this I'm not certain, as I have not tried it. But, I think that itsu did try that and did not get much better result, or output while testing. However, I still think that it's worth a try. Below is an image from Stalker's video, although it may not be his scope shot. The idea is what counts. And will also need testing. Remember that if there is no ground line, nor resonance, then don't expect that magically the placement of the Kacher signal will make any difference. The earth ground line, at about the same size as the grenade output coil, or 1/2 size made of welding cable, and Kacher to induction circuit resonances, are prerequisites, to seeing any effects, at all. Sometimes I can go for days without the slightest effect of what I call the Radio Moscow, sound, nor any other signs of resonance, or improvements. That hissing sound does indicate some form of resonance. In my opinion. Along with the ability to light several 100w bulbs brightly. Not just barely... NickZ ------------------------ Stalker's scope shot.jpg * Stalker's scope shot.jpg (374.56 kB, 1200x675 - viewed 27 times.) ------------------------ Don Smith Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. Grenade on stand small.png (1041.99 kB, 1008x756 - viewed 146 times.)

AlienGrey	Re: Don Smith Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #119 on: 2023-08-20, 15:27:22 »
Group: Guest	img Maxolous Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #2 on: 2023-05-24, 13:17:00 » Sr. Member **** Posts: 325 Nice Grenade you have here Itsu. Minimum inductance. Inductance cancellation, but you can't get zero: clockwise and counterclockwise. Regards

AlienGrey	Re: Don Smith Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #120 on: 2023-08-20, 15:29:03 »
Group: Guest	img Maxolous Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #4 on: 2023-05-24, 16:55:57 » Sr. Member **** Posts: 325 Quote from: NickZ on 2023-05-24, 15:26:01 Itsu: Wow, what a great looking grenade, as well as your 3D printed stand. You seam to have to most accurate replication that I've seen yet. And hopefully with your help, we can crack this nut. My thoughts on this is that we are close, and that it's probably only a tuning issue to resolve. So, we should not throw our baby out, with the bath water. Max: Thank for your comments, and ideas. NickZ Nice you have your tread now Nickz. We wish to see better things happening. Maxolous

AlienGrey	Re: Don Smith Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #121 on: 2023-08-20, 15:30:08 »
Group: Guest	img Itsu Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #5 on: 2023-05-24, 19:55:59 » Group: Elite Experimentalist Hero Member ***** Posts: 3823 Thanks Max, Nick, that Grenade i build 2 years ago with the help of Vasik and his translations. I don't think it was designed to be "inductance cancellation" as we still have more turns counterclockwise than clockwise (or the other way around) and for what reason do we need an inductionless coil? We might then use only a capacitor as that is what is left. Anyway, i will do some measurements with my nanoVNA to see how the inductance varies over a frequency range and at what frequency it flips over (the zero inductance point) from an inductance to capacitance (if doing so). Let's see what we can come up with. Itsu

AlienGrey	Re: Don Smith Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #122 on: 2023-08-20, 15:32:47 »
Group: Guest	img NickZ Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #6 on: 2023-05-25, 14:24:37 » Group: Moderator Hero Member ***** Posts: 614 Sounds good itsu, and I hope that Vasik and any of the other guys interested will also join in, and build some devices. As there are no better self running devices around, as yet. Since we don't really know what it takes to get these devices to self run, it's best to build true replications, of which there are really only just a very few. I understand from Vasik, I think it was, that Stalker built up 25 grenades, to finally get one that worked. Max: Did you figure out why your unit is flipping the over amp protection circuit. Does your mosfet get real hot. It may be that you have too much current going in. I use a couple of chokes at the input, as well as some filter caps, as per the Ruslan, or Stalker's schematic. This diagram below, was for the induction circuit that I replicated. NickZ ------------------------ Do you mean this(2).png * Do you mean this(2).png (139.35 kB, 688x340 - viewed 380 times.) ------------------------ Don Smith Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. Do you mean this(2).png (139.35 kB, 688x340 - viewed 119 times.)

AlienGrey	Re: Don Smith Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #123 on: 2023-08-20, 15:34:48 »
Group: Guest	img Centraflow Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #8 on: 2023-05-25, 18:09:44 » Group: Experimentalist Hero Member ***** Posts: 2764 Buy me a beer Quote from: Itsu on 2023-05-24, 19:55:59 Thanks Max, Nick, that Grenade i build 2 years ago with the help of Vasik and his translations. I don't think it was designed to be "inductance cancellation" as we still have more turns counterclockwise than clockwise (or the other way around) and for what reason do we need an inductionless coil? We might then use only a capacitor as that is what is left. Anyway, i will do some measurements with my nanoVNA to see how the inductance varies over a frequency range and at what frequency it flips over (the zero inductance point) from an inductance to capacitance (if doing so). Let's see what we can come up with. Itsu It probably is a multi-wave LC delay line or in the sound industry a vibrator/echo chamber. As I do not know how it is wound (a diagram would be good), that is a guess. See attached which is multi-phase if the inductances are different on each side. Regards Mike ------------------------ Multiple pulse delay line.png * Multiple pulse delay line.png (10.6 kB, 1495x1060 - viewed 327 times.) --------------------------- "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident." Arthur Schopenhauer, Philosopher, 1788-1860 As a general rule, the most successful person in life is the person that has the best information. ------------------------ Don Smith Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. Multiple pulse delay line.png (10.6 kB, 1495x1060 - viewed 119 times.)

AlienGrey	Re: Don Smith Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #124 on: 2023-08-20, 15:36:22 »
Group: Guest	img Apecore Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #10 on: 2023-05-25, 20:01:41 » Group: Guest Quote from: Itsu on 2023-05-24, 10:00:04 H F.I. i want to figure out if there can be standing waves present in this Grenade/inductor and under what conditions. Regards Itsu Hi Itsu, I did a lot of work on grenade research together with Lostbro years ago. Our goal was to create a grenade 37.5m which also has its resonance frequency at 2Mhz. The wirelength of 37.5m would give a oppertunity to create a 1/4 standingwave at 2Mhz which means it has double resonance. Vew months ago I succeeded in realizing this 2Mhz resonance goal.

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