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Re: Don Smith Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #500 on: 2023-08-21, 17:32:55 »
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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #381 on: 2023-07-10, 13:35:06 »


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   AG:
  Can you place a link to that mentioned video, by Alexey.
Those seam like the correct frequencies, to me.

     Geo did not show being even close to OU, nor able to self run.
But, he did seam to be on the right "track".

    As far as weak kachers go,  my simple kacher running on 24v,  can produce a one centimeter streamer.
 I don't need that strong a voltage, as 10.000 Volts, will fry everything. And it can even light up to 100 watt bulb partially, just from the kacher running by itself, through the grenade. I don't consider that "weak". I am not braging, these are simple facts. Nothing to brag about.
   
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Quote from: NickZ on 2023-07-10, 13:35:06
   AG:
  Can you place a link to that mentioned video, by Alexey.
Those seam like the correct frequencies, to me.

     Geo did not show being even close to OU, nor able to self run.
But, he did seam to be on the right "track".

    As far as weak kachers go,  my simple kacher running on 24v,  can produce a one centimeter streamer.
 I don't need that strong a voltage, as 10.000 Volts, will fry everything. And it can even light up to 100 watt bulb partially, just from the kacher running by itself, through the grenade. I don't consider that "weak". I am not braging, these are simple facts. Nothing to brag about.
   
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Re: Don Smith Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #502 on: 2023-08-21, 17:34:39 »
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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #383 on: 2023-07-11, 06:58:06 »


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Quote from: Itsu on 2023-07-10, 10:35:02

Max,

i know the Push-Pull should be at a 50th sub-harmonic frequency of the Kacher / Grenade resonance frequencies, so i was tuning the Push-Pull to be around this value (24.8, 25, etc. kHz), but never i saw this modulated signal yet, but as i mentioned above, i will do some further fine-tuning.

 
Thanks for the Geo video's, but as he has not yet showed a self-runner, how amazing his effects are, it does not necessarily mean he is/was on the right track.

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Itsu,
See if you have resonance at 122.9k or there about.

Point of correction, I edited mine to 24.58kHZ that's the actual 50th sub-harmonic frequency of 1.229MHZ.

Be sure you have two pot on your PP cct. One for fine tuning. This enables you to pick the exact frequency. And one thing is your  "CT" in your TL494 board
Timing capacitor should be a very good one , this is in order not to drift away from res. freq. after awhile.

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Another point to watch out for Earth around the circuit around between the
three or five turn winding on the PP and any thing else, Or experiment whats
best for your Experiment.
 

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Quote from: Maxolous on 2023-07-11, 06:58:06
Itsu,
See if you have resonance at 122.9k or there about.

Point of correction, I edited mine to 24.58kHZ that's the actual 50th sub-harmonic frequency of 1.229MHZ.

Be sure you have two pot on your PP cct. One for fine tuning. This enables you to pick the exact frequency. And one thing is your  "CT" in your TL494 board
Timing capacitor should be a very good one , this is in order not to drift away from res. freq. after awhile.

Maxolous
Max is this just a tracking frequency ? if so you could just generate your high freq
and devide it down and use a phase lock chip to lock the the smaller freq as a data window
up/ or down eather way would be just electronic locking freq.

ie 122,900/50 = 2458 as in your example

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   It is important to note, that the Earth ground line connection will only improve the output so long as there is some resonance in the whole system. If there is no adequate resonance, nothing will be noticed when connecting the ground.
Which is one way to know IF you are even close, or not.

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Re: Don Smith Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #506 on: 2023-08-21, 17:36:18 »
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Max is this just a tracking frequency ? if so you could just generate your high freq
and devide it down and use a phase lock chip to lock the the smaller freq as a data window
up/ or down eather way would be just electronic locking freq.

ie 122,900/50 = 2458 as in your example

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AG,

That's the frequency at which Itsu's grenade resonate. You can not generate any frequency , there is or are freq. a grenade must listen to otherwise it's like what I will describe as winking at  a girl in the dark ;D

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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #388 on: 2023-07-11, 23:10:19 »


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Sure the only thing the grenade can listen to is the katcher it's a TX device.
If you monitor the output you can use it to make the katcher track the resonance
a few designs do that it's called AFC.  a 4046 can do that and correct the phase angle.

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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #389 on: 2023-07-12, 10:48:22 »


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Quote from: AlienGrey on 2023-07-11, 23:10:19
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Sure the only thing the grenade can listen to is the katcher it's a TX device.
If you monitor the output you can use it to make the katcher track the resonance
a few designs do that it's called AFC.  a 4046 can do that and correct the phase angle.

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AG,

Yes, the kacher is Tx while the grenade is Rx.
The PLL is a good method anyhow, but you must be acquainted with how it works. You must know how to do frequency multiplication  or division with it unless you have already made circuit copied from somewhere. The problem I see there is that , you are not going to apply it to Tesla and expect Tesla coil to resonate at your set frequency. You already know that Tesla coil resonate according to turns or wire length. That means , you still will adjust Tesla otherwise, you have to devise a new method.

Another question is if you chose your Tesla frequency and divide by whatever you're dividing with, how do you feed your Tesla frequency into the reference of your chip, because you can't just read your Tesla frequency once and implement . Since the chip works by feedback loop, it must continue to sample your frequency from Tesla. That's the only way to keep the phase angle intact and same in it multiplicity.

Anyway food for thought.

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Re: Don Smith Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #509 on: 2023-08-21, 17:37:53 »
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Quote from: Maxolous on 2023-07-11, 06:58:06
Itsu,
See if you have resonance at 122.9k or there about.

Point of correction, I edited mine to 24.58kHZ that's the actual 50th sub-harmonic frequency of 1.229MHZ.

Be sure you have two pot on your PP cct. One for fine tuning. This enables you to pick the exact frequency. And one thing is your  "CT" in your TL494 board
Timing capacitor should be a very good one , this is in order not to drift away from res. freq. after awhile.

Maxolous

Max,

i know my grenade suppose to resonate around 1229kHz (your method), and if i tune my kacher to that same resonance frequency of 1229kHz i do see some interaction on my pickup probe.

My Push-Pull circuit has 2 pots for frequency tuning and the CT cap is a SMD MLCC cap.

When i tune my Push-Pull to 24.58kHz there is some interaction visible on the pickup probe as seen by the screenshot below.
But this is no modulation as the peaks and dips are not aligned to each other, it's more a superposition of the Push-Pull signal on the Kacher signal or with other words, the pickup probe picks up both the Push-Pull signal and the kacher signal.

I do not get any modulated signal like shown by you.

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I'm probably wasting my time telling itsu this but a lot of those circuits
arn't workers and the internals arnt in tune (are free running)

The scope shots are gated Locked in a sort of resonance, I perfected the idea
to digitise  camera video in a line data window, as you can see it works here as well.
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Re: Don Smith Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #511 on: 2023-08-21, 17:58:52 »
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Quote from: Itsu on 2023-07-12, 20:39:31
Max,

i know my grenade suppose to resonate around 1229kHz (your method), and if i tune my kacher to that same resonance frequency of 1229kHz i do see some interaction on my pickup probe.

My Push-Pull circuit has 2 pots for frequency tuning and the CT cap is a SMD MLCC cap.

When i tune my Push-Pull to 24.58kHz there is some interaction visible on the pickup probe as seen by the screenshot below.
But this is no modulation as the peaks and dips are not aligned to each other, it's more a superposition of the Push-Pull signal on the Kacher signal or with other words, the pickup probe picks up both the Push-Pull signal and the kacher signal.

I do not get any modulated signal like shown by you.

Itsu

Itsu

There is interaction, but small. Try checking the Tesla frequency as it is running to see if it is at 1229KHZ.

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Re: Don Smith Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #512 on: 2023-08-21, 17:59:12 »
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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #393 on: 2023-07-13, 07:02:37 »


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I'm probably wasting my time telling itsu this but a lot of those circuits
arn't workers and the internals arnt in tune (are free running)

The scope shots are gated Locked in a sort of resonance, I perfected the idea
to digitise  camera video in a line data window, as you can see it works here as well.

AG,

Do you have a circuit diagram for this.
Can you elaborate.
No knowledge bus lost.

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It's not to dificult to sync hf and lf i would usuly use a latch triger but didn't here.

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It's not to dificult to sync hf and lf i would usuly use a latch triger but didn't here.

Sil

AG,

I have seen your cct. but ity not 4046 as described. This is NAND gate in a  more simple manner of locking phase and varying frequency of tesla. I have an elaborate one which I use.

It can shift phase
It can change frequency
It can pulse width
It can increase or decrease number of pulses.

Check it out here below;
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I assumed you wanted to know how i produced the scope shots

Here is a 4046 PCB idid for Vasic's 041 circuit he published
some 3 or four years back. (it has 2 other boards to it. A pp and
HV & mixer.

I suppose you want the schematic  for it I will see if i can find it

I think it was an Igorik design. you might find it under his name.

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I assumed you wanted to know how i produced the scope shots

Here is a 4046 PCB idid for Vasic's 041 circuit he published
some 3 or four years back. (it has 2 other boards to it. A pp and
HV & mixer.

I suppose you want the schematic  for it I will see if i can find it

I think it was an Igorik design. you might find it under his name.

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AG,

I see what I was contemplating on; the antenna is picking signal from Tesla for sampling, the pot is to control the VCO( voltage controlled oscillator) I guess.

As I said no knowledge is lost, you can send me.

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Quote from: Itsu on 2023-07-12, 20:39:31
Max,

i know my grenade suppose to resonate around 1229kHz (your method), and if i tune my kacher to that same resonance frequency of 1229kHz i do see some interaction on my pickup probe.

My Push-Pull circuit has 2 pots for frequency tuning and the CT cap is a SMD MLCC cap.

When i tune my Push-Pull to 24.58kHz there is some interaction visible on the pickup probe as seen by the screenshot below.
But this is no modulation as the peaks and dips are not aligned to each other, it's more a superposition of the Push-Pull signal on the Kacher signal or with other words, the pickup probe picks up both the Push-Pull signal and the kacher signal.

I do not get any modulated signal like shown by you.

Itsu

Itsu,

I went back to check, I think something is wrong with your setup.
See; a better modulation.
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Tesla without PP signal to modulate.
This is like the one you showed , it's clear there was no modulation in yours.

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The problem is from your wiring. Earth should be earth for Tesla and PP and above that obey Right hand rule in all connections.

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Quote from: Maxolous on 2023-07-14, 18:24:56
Tesla without PP signal to modulate.
This is like the one you showed , it's clear there was no modulation in yours.

Maxolous

Hi max,

i don't agree, those are two different signals, yours is modulated (peaks opposite to each other as are the dips, mine has a dip opposite to a peak and vise versa):

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I made a new kacher secondary, based on a 37.5m length (inclusive leads) of 0.8mm magnet wire on a 5cm diameter cardboard former, see picture.

This bare secondary resonates at 2.054MHz.
In the kacher circuit it resonates at 2.715MHz
With antenna attached it resonates at 1.160MHz

So this last resonance frequency is slightly too low to match the Grenade resonance frequency of 1.229MHz (method proposed by Max).

I will do some further adjustments and measurements.

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Quote from: Itsu on 2023-07-14, 21:29:16
I made a new kacher secondary, based on a 37.5m length (inclusive leads) of 0.8mm magnet wire on a 5cm diameter cardboard former, see picture.

This bare secondary resonates at 2.054MHz.
In the kacher circuit it resonates at 2.715MHz
With antenna attached it resonates at 1.160MHz

So this last resonance frequency is slightly too low to match the Grenade resonance frequency of 1.229MHz (method proposed by Max).

I will do some further adjustments and measurements.

Itsu

Itsu.

That's fine.
Adjust while running it until beatings starts if every other things are okay. Once it start beatings. There will no longer be much arcing on ant.  because absorption is taking place.
Then, think of how to fully establish your Tesla for maximum output.

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   Itsu:
   Thanks for the info.
   My kacher also runs at around 1,1MHz. So, not too far off...
   Interesting that your 37.5 meter kacher secondary runs best at 2MHz, by itself.

  Stalker mentions that everything needs to be tuned to the 37.5M grenade. Why, I don't know, yet.
Including the kacher frequency to match the antenna coil frequency. But you find that that may not be possible?
Maybe a different harmonic is needed, instead?
  I'm still trying to understand why what Stalker says does not compute. Hard to get anywhere like that...

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Itsu & Nick so lets ask a question are you ignoring some thing or doing some thing arse about face ?
I mean water looks like petrol hmm but would it power my fuel burning devices ?
think about it.

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