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Re: Don Smith Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #375 on: 2023-08-21, 08:41:23 »
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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #258 on: 2023-06-28, 07:08:56 »


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Quote from: AlienGrey on 2023-06-28, 00:10:48
Max It looks like Itsu is pulsing his device with HF AC excuse me but that wont work
and your wasting your time if it is.


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No, Itsu is not pulsing it. I know you know of this method of Determining kacher sec. res. freq we discussed it  a while ago.

He said 20Volts peak to Peak

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Re: Don Smith Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #376 on: 2023-08-21, 08:58:57 »
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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #259 on: 2023-06-28, 07:42:21 »


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It is advisable to use Aluminum conductor for experiment due to cost effect. I usually have then, they are cheaper. When you've gotten what you want, you can replace with copper. It is better than spending so much on copper when you are not sure.

Get them in 0.6mm, 0.8mm and 1.5mm the last gauge will help if you're resonating at high frequencies.

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The kacher secondary below is made with 1.5mm the length of coil is 25cm almost 10 inches. This resonates (with shinyaga and antenna) around  1.8MHZ. with this you don't look for the secondary under your primary or kacher inductor, most especially when inductor is wide.

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Re: Don Smith Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #377 on: 2023-08-21, 09:00:14 »
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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #260 on: 2023-06-28, 08:03:24 »


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OK Max,

my wire gauge used on my modified secondary is 1mm.

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Re: Don Smith Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #378 on: 2023-08-21, 09:01:19 »
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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #261 on: 2023-06-28, 08:26:21 »


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So my next step was to reinstall the kacher primary, remove the shorts from the Grenade and Inductor and see if i have one single resonance peak while measuring the Grenade response.

This turns out to be not the case.

I see now 2 resonance points, one at 1600kHz (the new kacher) and one at 1800kHz (the Grenade).

So it seems that after installing the kacher primary and / or removing the shorts from the Grenade / Inductor the new kacher secondary resonance point shifted from the earlier reported 1900kHz to 1600kHz.

Seems i still have to fine tune this new kacher secondary by removing additional windings.

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Re: Don Smith Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #379 on: 2023-08-21, 09:01:51 »
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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #262 on: 2023-06-28, 08:58:09 »


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Quote from: Itsu on 2023-06-28, 08:26:21
So my next step was to reinstall the kacher primary, remove the shorts from the Grenade and Inductor and see if i have one single resonance peak while measuring the Grenade response.

Itsu,

Why I asked the inductor to be shorted was that at real operation of installation, the loop or tank circuit composed of inductor and capacitor is like a short circuit. You already know that series resonance is "acceptor circuit" while parallel resonance is "resistive circuit"
In acceptor circuit, the resistance is small and if well tuned it tends to zero Ohms. Consequently, I usually like to parallel caps to form my capacitance equivalents.

What am saying is that, still leave the inductor short in order not to cause interference until you have your tank circuit in place and operating.

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This turns out to be not the case.

I see now 2 resonance points, one at 1600kHz (the new kacher) and one at 1800kHz (the Grenade).

So it seems that after installing the kacher primary and / or removing the shorts from the Grenade / Inductor the new kacher secondary resonance point shifted from the earlier reported 1900kHz to 1600kHz.

Seems i still have to fine tune this new kacher secondary by removing additional windings.

Itsu

Keep trying it. The resonance frequency of the Tesla with Gizmo and antenna is more important to you if your resonance point of your grenade is already determined which you're tunning to.

https://youtube.com/shorts/Pagl1zg0j4A?feature=share

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Re: Don Smith Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #380 on: 2023-08-21, 09:03:30 »
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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #263 on: 2023-06-28, 09:06:12 »


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Quote from: Itsu on 2023-06-28, 08:26:21
So my next step was to reinstall the kacher primary, remove the shorts from the Grenade and Inductor and see if i have one single resonance peak while measuring the Grenade response.

This turns out to be not the case.

I see now 2 resonance points, one at 1600kHz (the new kacher) and one at 1800kHz (the Grenade).

So it seems that after installing the kacher primary and / or removing the shorts from the Grenade / Inductor the new kacher secondary resonance point shifted from the earlier reported 1900kHz to 1600kHz.

Seems i still have to fine tune this new kacher secondary by removing additional windings.

Itsu
Itsu with all respect to you and Nick your on the wrong track, the Tesla coil is a Phase angle
tx aerial and you need to change it's angle to vertical !

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Re: Don Smith Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #381 on: 2023-08-21, 09:04:16 »
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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #264 on: 2023-06-28, 09:32:55 »


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Max,

using your method again, shorting the Grenade and/or Inductor or not, has no influence on the found kacher secondary / Antenna resonance frequency of 1900kHz nor does installing the (open) Kacher Primary.

With other words, there is a huge difference in found resonance frequency between your method (1900kHz) and my method (1600kHz) which is exciting the kacher secondary via its primary using my FG.

Question is what method is the right one.

Guess i can only test that by installing a kacher driver and powering it up to see at what frequency it self-oscillates.

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Re: Don Smith Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #382 on: 2023-08-21, 09:04:48 »
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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #265 on: 2023-06-28, 12:31:32 »


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Quote from: Itsu on 2023-06-28, 09:32:55
Max,

using your method again, shorting the Grenade and/or Inductor or not, has no influence on the found kacher secondary / Antenna resonance frequency of 1900kHz nor does installing the (open) Kacher Primary.

With other words, there is a huge difference in found resonance frequency between your method (1900kHz) and my method (1600kHz) which is exciting the kacher secondary via its primary using my FG.

Question is what method is the right one.

Guess i can only test that by installing a kacher driver and powering it up to see at what frequency it self-oscillates.

Itsu

Test to see

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Re: Don Smith Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #383 on: 2023-08-21, 09:05:16 »
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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #266 on: 2023-06-28, 12:36:41 »


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Itsu,
Exciting the kacher pry with SG is not efficient except you are going to amplify the SG signal.

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Re: Don Smith Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #384 on: 2023-08-21, 12:24:56 »
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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #267 on: 2023-06-29, 03:42:18 »


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Itsu have a look at this pic from Ruslan notice two wound coils apart from
the Grenade coil so what do you get from that set up ?

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Re: Don Smith Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #385 on: 2023-08-21, 12:26:03 »
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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #268 on: 2023-06-29, 20:42:10 »


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Quote from: Maxolous on 2023-06-28, 12:31:32
Test to see

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I bread boarded together a quick and dirty Kacher driver using a 2SC5200 transistor.

Running on 12V @ 200mA, it shows the Kacher / Antenna is resonating on 1734kHz which is in between the two resonance peaks found using both my (1600kHz) and Max his method (1900kHz).

Grenade / Inductor are open, but when shorting them, it makes no difference.

Scope probe is 5 cm from antenna

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Re: Don Smith Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #386 on: 2023-08-21, 12:26:33 »
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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #269 on: 2023-06-29, 21:27:02 »


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You don't think there is a reason that that's happening do you ? some thing we are ignoring perhaps ?
the other thing is any effect your after will disappear in your scope shot because the scope will have
earth leakage !

Also note verpies post and yours under neath

https://overunity.com/12736/kapanadze-cousin-dally-free-energy/

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Re: Don Smith Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #387 on: 2023-08-21, 12:28:41 »
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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #270 on: 2023-06-30, 21:22:56 »


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I removed the gizmo and antenna, using the same kacher driver and now the secondary only resonates on 3243kHz, see screenshot.

So the antenna as top load has a huge influence.

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Re: Don Smith Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #388 on: 2023-08-21, 12:29:25 »
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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #271 on: 2023-06-30, 23:30:59 »


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Oh well done Itsu That's because it's radiant radiation radiating into the grenade which receives and converts the energy all you have to do now is find the best orientation of the Ariel have you tried a split tube in the center ? didn't Memo father predict this early on when over unity started?


Oh well must get on with my solar panels they work great! O0

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Re: Don Smith Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #389 on: 2023-08-21, 12:29:50 »
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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #272 on: 2023-07-01, 08:37:54 »


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Quote from: forest on 2023-06-20, 18:47:52
Guys, what do you believe is the principle of operation of any mentioned here devices? Personally I believe in interaction with Earth magnetic field but maybe there is some human (military?) created source of energy and grenade is just tuned to its frequency ?
Everyone has their favorite pet theory.
You have the Earth's magnetic field (but have you ever calculated how many Joules are in one cubic meter of Earth's field ?), Nick believes in Aether or energy from the ambient, some think it receives RF energy from a nearby radio station, some think it is an electron accelerator, etc...
My pet theory is such that the device does not make sense when there is no slotted metal pipe inside the tube ...or a sausage made out of some special ferrite rings.
   
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Re: Don Smith Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #390 on: 2023-08-21, 12:30:14 »
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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #273 on: 2023-07-01, 10:01:41 »
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Hi verpies,

Hopefully you are doing well.  It is good you returned.   O0

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Re: Don Smith Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #391 on: 2023-08-21, 12:30:40 »
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Quote from: verpies on 2023-07-01, 08:37:54
Everyone has their favorite pet theory.
You have the Earth's magnetic field (but have you ever calculated how many Joules are in one cubic meter of Earth's field ?), Nick believes in Aether or energy from the ambient, some think it receives RF energy from a nearby radio station, some think it is an electron accelerator, etc...
My pet theory is such that the device does not make sense when there is no slotted metal pipe inside the tube ...or a sausage made out of some special ferrite rings.
Verpies i think it's much simpler than that, and Farest is a comedien  ;D
remember the days in the 60s when we mad our own audio amps and to get more noise power
to get twice as much you had to quad the power, it's some thing like that but magnetics
electricity we buy is rather like pissing on the camp fire and then complaining the fuel is no good.

PS Strange I was just thinking about your input just the other day, I must be side kick  >:-) O0
   
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Re: Don Smith Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #392 on: 2023-08-21, 12:37:49 »
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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #275 on: 2023-07-01, 10:43:48 »


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Hi verpies,  yes, good to see you around.





All,

There is a nice calculator to calculate the many parameters of a Tesla coil secondary / primary / top load:

http://www.classictesla.com/java/javatc/javatc.html

When playing with it using a 37.5m long 0.8mm magnet wire (239 turns) on a 5cm diam. former and a 5 turns / 2.5mm diam. 13cm former primary (with a 690pF cap parallel) it shows the following data:



So we see a self resonance frequency of 3163kHz among many other parameters.
Input data used was:



We can even calculate the effect a top load will have like here where i used a cylinder as our Antenna top load.
I had to adjust the primary parallel capacitor to 2.4nF to get a good match between prim /secondary resonances with these data as result:




We see the resonance frequency has dropped to 1690kHz
Input data used was:





I am amazed by how close those resonance values are to my found resonance frequencies (1734kHz secondary alone, 3243kHz with my antenna connected)
Perhaps a good tool to play around with before building.

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Re: Don Smith Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #393 on: 2023-08-21, 12:39:05 »
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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #276 on: 2023-07-01, 16:08:29 »


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    Long time no see, nor hear, either. Welcome back.
   Yes, there are many pet pives, but still no pet self runners.
   So, we are still struggling with all this, just the way it was back then...
   You have not missed a thing, in case you were wondering. Or maybe I did.

  So, I'm waiting for these guys to do their numbers, so we can get on with actual building of replications.
  But it seams that no one wants to play, yet, and I don't see how this is going to work out, otherwise. Without an actual device.
  And, it may take another hundred years to verify what Tesla said about the Aether, as well. And to ditch, the battery. I'm in no hurry.

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Re: Don Smith Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #394 on: 2023-08-21, 12:39:32 »
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Re: Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #277 on: 2023-07-01, 20:06:29 »


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The moment your Tesla is well tuned that is when the powerful arcing is then directed and drawn inward your grenade. This is when you see little or no arcing anymore at your antenna when touched with your screw driver or metal. There will be beatings( amplitude modulation ) one inside the other but same pattern. "Absorption"

Nice to hear again from old friend Verpies

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Who says there is no fish waves, one the carrier (Push-pull), one the intelligent signal(Tesla). "Amplitude Modulation"

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Previous to this, there will be synchronising of the Push-pull frequency (sub-harmonic) to the high frequency of the standing wave of grenade. To effect this, there have to be LC resonance at that low frequency.
The current circulating in the Inductor is tenths of Amps at this tank circuit "series resonance" or acceptor circuit.

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Previous to this, there will be synchronising of the Push-pull frequency (sub-harmonic) to the high frequency of the standing wave of grenade. To effect this, there have to be LC resonance at that low frequency.
The current circulating in the Inductor is tenths of Amps at this tank circuit "series resonance" or acceptor circuit.

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Re: Don Smith Akula, Ruslan, Stalker, device discussion and replications. « Reply #398 on: 2023-08-21, 12:46:14 »
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Quote from: AlienGrey on 2023-07-01, 21:07:44
Here you are 4 standing waves in a tesla coil

Tesla coil always produce standing waves, no doubt about that.

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If we can be meticulous about these to achieve these, before long someone might build a working device again and again

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