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Author Topic: Cavitation and Pistol Shrimps and the Witts Inc.  (Read 33926 times)
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Sorry
I removed it!
Won't happen again!
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No problem - My mistake.
   

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It's not as complicated as it may seem...
No mistake I hope WW.

Post with confidence that it stays put, but many at OU browse here anyway... ;)

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Now Ltseung888 has included 'Bring-In' in his theory title.

I feel honored that my insignificant post about 'long since discovered', 'well proven' and 'used for more than a decade' theories by several great western scientists were actually just discovered and now the IP of the People's Republic of China.

Isn't it about time they claimed the invention of the flashlight? Little bit slow on that one.

 
   
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Is this an anomoly?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_ssUTRbRRs

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There are three possibilities that I can think of.

Before I speculate I am wondering if Lasersaber tried to do the same test without the iron ring being magnetized.  It's possible that he would have gotten the same results.

The first possibility is that there is contamination on the surface of the metal, like finger grease, and this sets up a microscopic chemical battery when the probes are in the right place.

Another possibility is that the metal composition itself was slightly different and that set up galvanic currents.  i.e.; one probe was touching the bare metal and the other probe was touching the metal plating.

The third is that once the iron ring is energized and the magnetic domains are all lined up, they spontaneously start to slowly loose their organization and re-randomize.  Whenever a magnetic domain falls out of alignment, there is a tiny amount of current induced to flow in the metal.  You can imagine it being like random pops from a Geiger counter.  When the probe tip touches the metal, the localized pressure helps magnetic domains in the region to re-randomize in a small eruption, and the current induced in the metal is also picked up by the multimeter.

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http://sparkbangbuzz.com/mag-amp/mag-amp.htm

http://community-2.webtv.net/@HH!58!7B!CC828678B860/SkyVessel/MagneticNeutral/

Said to be what JB is doing ?

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Chet,

The first link points to a web site with a great deal of valuable information. I seriously doubt it has anything to do with the work of JB and is certainly outside the understanding of almost all of the JB believers. Probably beyond JB as well.

The second link is to the work of an individual who clearly has absolutely no idea what he has posted or the theory of a Bloch wall.
   
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Those links came from here

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/6834-magtap-harvesting-electricity-magnet.html

Comments from Nenergy ,He seemed to imply the Mag amp connection to JB.

Also I see the 2nd link I posted was botched.and won't go thru as a cut and past ,but its at the above thread!


Thanks for looking !
Do you feel the Mag amp demmo with the 9 volt bat and the headlight is something special [At this point I haven't a clue}

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Do you feel the Mag amp demmo with the 9 volt bat and the headlight is something special [At this point I haven't a clue}

It is special only because the younger crowd and many so called 'well educated' think it is special. The same goes for Dielectric Amplifiers.

Inductors, capacitors, etc. are always considered 'passive' devices. They aren't passive in some designs and almost always more reliable with much higher gain capabilities.

Magamps and Dieamps were used during WWII and the Korean war for autonomous and remote guidance control on heavy payload missiles, along with a few radio communication devices.

Neither are new but very few electronics engineers know of them or how they function. From what I have seen, both are mostly considered 'junk science' by most current 'experts'.

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Chet:

A new try with the problem link:

http://community-2.webtv.net/@HH!58!7B!CC828678B860/SkyVessel/MagneticNeutral/

The second and third images show alleged Bloch walls in the center of an inductor and in the center of a bar magnet.  It's pure nonsense.  There is no Bloch wall in the center of an inductor by definition.  There is no Bloch wall in the center of a bar magnet.  The magnetic domains throughout a bar magnet are all in the same magnetic alignment.

The images in the link show a fake "alternative" view of how magnetic field lines flow in 3D space.  I don't know if Bedini originated this fake concept or if he is just exploiting this fake concept.  He claims that the "zero point" energy goes into the coil via this non-existent Bloch wall.

Note that the Wikipedia entry for "Bloch wall" has been corrupted, possibly by a Bedini follower:

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A Bloch wall is a narrow transition region at the boundary between magnetic domains, over which the magnetization changes from its value in one domain to that in the next. The magnetization rotates through the plane of the wall unlike the Néel wall  where the magnetization rotates in the plane of the wall. For example, a Bloch wall is formed at the center line of a bar magnet where the domains switch north/south direction. An example of a Néel wall transition is shown in the animation below.

Bloch walls are named after the physicist Felix Bloch.

There is no Bloch wall at the center line of a bar magnet and the domains do NOT switch north/south direction.

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Thank you gentlemen
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The Neel to Bloch domain wall phase transition in ferromagnetic strips

http://cm.physics.tamu.edu/seminars/K_Romanov_09_19_07.pdf

   
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Does anyone understand these claims ,or the concept ?

http://www.wipo.int/pctdb/en/wo.jsp?wo=2007103020&IA=WO2007103020&DISPLAY=DESC

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This is the Barbat patent. I studied it a while back. To keep things organized,  will have to request Peterae or POYNT to set up a heading for this in the "Pulsed / Radiant Energy" section, and then we should discuss it there. It is an interesting patent, but I don't totally agree with the author's implementation. I have the US patent which I will also post there with some notes.

The patent itself is a fun read ripe with references.


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Sir
Thank you for taking the time to discuss this!

I am embarrassed by my inability to provide you with the transcript of the SM vids to date!
I am having very hard financial times at present and have been trying to finish a prototype of
A product for handicapped children (autism),an all consuming task on basically no budget.
I don,t have the funds to spend on a new pc (so Incan get sound).

I am however quite optimistic that I am almost over the hump financially.
I really want to do this for you !!

I appreciate your patience!

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Trying to post another 2 links??
   
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Sir please when you have a moment?
There seems to be something very unusual going on here,plus a simple experiment to prove the claims.
do you understand this??

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Chet:

I only glanced at the documents and can't really comment on them.  It would take a real commitment to read them and understand them and sorry, I can't make that kind of commitment.

If I can comment on anything it looks like the document alleges some sort of "magic" configuration for this particular motor and I don't buy it.  You see that argument being made for things like Bedini's "Kromrey Converter," one of many Bedini alleged free energy machines.  Of course nobody that replicates it can get it to work at all.  The response is always that "you didn't build it correctly."  The implication is that everything has to be built to the exact dimensions and only then will it work.  The truth is that it's all a lie as far as I am concerned.  John Bedini "burst on the scene" in 1984 with his Kromrey Converter and there is not a single one in existence doing anything useful 26 years later.  How about that?

Incidentally, that pattern was recently repeated by Peter Lindemann with the mysterious "Lockridge Device."  He gave the talk and has supplied the full parts list for building a replication!  If you didn't see the talk buy the DVD now!!!  Not a single person will be able to build a working Lockridge Device free energy machine, mark my words.  Within a certain amount of time you will be able to assemble a listing of Peter Lindemann quotes as to why the various replicators failed to make it work.  Hey!  Why not post in his thread asking him to build a replication himself?!  I am almost certain he doesn't have a working model.  You can't forget Chet that if Peter is truly telling the truth then he has a device that can start the Age of Aquarius, end famine, and eliminate the need for wars of conquest for wealth, territory, and resources.  So what's stopping him???

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Sir
Thank you for taking the time to discuss this!

I am embarrassed by my inability to provide you with the transcript of the SM vids to date!
I am having very hard financial times at present and have been trying to finish a prototype of
A product for handicapped children (autism),an all consuming task on basically no budget.
I don,t have the funds to spend on a new pc (so Incan get sound).

I am however quite optimistic that I am almost over the hump financially.
I really want to do this for you !!

I appreciate your patience!

Chet


Chet

Don't worry yourself about the transcript, the work you are doing is also very important. Thanks for refreshing my mind on the Barbat patent.....it looks even more interesting now than it did two years ago.

All is good......Happy Holidays Chet, and best of luck in your work.


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More from Quarktoo on marinov

Marinov's perpetual mobile was peer reviewed after he died by his detractors. In the original paper, there was a heart felt acknowledgment by his peers at Berlin University that Marinov was right and they were sincerely sorry they did not listen to him. [paraphrasing]

It was reproduced AND peer reviewed by PHD's in a written and published paper by people that once mocked him. That speaks volumes since they had nothing to gain and everything to lose by doing that.


QuoteAnd if so ,whats up with that? can this Marinov motor go OU?

Of course it can. Marinov used the same principle used in the horseshoe magnets on the Methernitha which he fully understood. A-B effect. Cavitation of an electron stream ring a bell? The smaller portable unit used a bar magnet which can be clearly seen in the photo but the split and polarization is the same.


   
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