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Yes, it does, and not the first one.

The one you see is for the build documents only as it is color-coded.

It is as close to Steven Mark's as in the picture below

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Can't wait to see the results
   
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Show it working.

You may have to buy the book, lol.

After looking at Mike's work and his explanations I believe he has it.

Look at the facts we know, he is very intelligent, he has been working on it for years, he has done the research and experiments, he's using the right language in the right context and plans to release the technology. I would definitely support him in any way I can.

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After looking at Mike's work and his explanations I believe he has it.

I've seen more "TPU's" than I can count over the years that never actually worked.  All of them wound in similar ways.

So, if someone has a working TPU, then show us the rotating field at least. 

I don't need to see the output. 

If you have the correct type of rotating field then I believe it could work.
   

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I've seen more "TPU's" than I can count over the years that never actually worked.  All of them wound in similar ways.

So, if someone has a working TPU, then show us the rotating field at least. 

I don't need to see the output. 

If you have the correct type of rotating field then I believe it could work.

Similar to this but a silent plasma :)

Rotates like a turbine of a jet engine and back and too.

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Sorry, but I'm not convinced.
   
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   Nice cover, Mike - and I would be delighted to buy your book!!  O0
   
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If you can produce a working prototype, now might be the time to disregard the Elites and Illuminati fearmongers and arrange to show it to Governor Abbott, governor of the "Energy Capital of the World", some of whose citizens are huddling over camp fires outside in the snow, some have died in house fires or got CO poisoning from running car engines.

This is an interesting thread:
http://www.energeticforum.com/forum/energetic-forum-discussion/renewable-energy/11256-using-a-car-to-generate-emergency-electricity/
   

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Sorry, but I'm not convinced.

Didn't think for one minute you would be.

Induction will never be more than 99% efficient, it is not how it works.

It is to do with electron capture, no induction takes place in a TPU be it SM's or mine, which I think are the same thing.

It's all to do with ion's, those things that interchange electrons, like in a battery electrolyte, the electrolyte here is the ions in the atmosphere.

Very simple to see it when you know how plasmas are formed (ionized atoms are stripped of electrons and so gain a positive charge, and heat is generated in relation to the number of electrons removed).

Capacitive charge capture then takes place time and time again, and not anything to do with induction.

The solenoids are both capacitive and magnetic confinement.

I think you now have enough to design your own, I will now remain quiet on this open thread.

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Didn't think for one minute you would be.

Induction will never be more than 99% efficient, it is not how it works.

It is to do with electron capture, no induction takes place in a TPU be it SM's or mine, which I think are the same thing.

It's all to do with ion's, those things that interchange electrons, like in a battery electrolyte, the electrolyte here is the ions in the atmosphere.

Very simple to see it when you know how plasmas are formed (ionized atoms are stripped of electrons and so gain a positive charge, and heat is generated in relation to the number of electrons removed).

Capacitive charge capture then takes place time and time again, and not anything to do with induction.

The solenoids are both capacitive and magnetic confinement.

I think you now have enough to design your own, I will now remain quiet on this open thread.

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It looks like we are talking about completely different devices, and attempting to correlate them to the TPU. 
Thus we end in disagreement.


   
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Very simple to see it when you know how plasmas are formed (ionized atoms are stripped of electrons and so gain a positive charge, and heat is generated in relation to the number of electrons removed).

It sounds like you have a pretty good understanding of how this works.

As an Engineer "heat" is part of my job however I have come to see thermodynamics as kind of a joke. It's simply a measure of molecular motion nothing more.

So when we say something is hotter were really saying it's molecules are oscillating faster than something colder. As such it doesn't matter how we change the rate at which molecules oscillate only that they change. In our case heat is generated in the conductors through an electron scattering effect or excess excitation. However there is no valid reason why the opposite could not occur and the molecular motion becomes coordinated.

It's really interesting stuff and were basically talking about controlling the kind of motion of something on the atomic/molecular level and this motion is energy. Not unlike the notion of rather than building one large machine we would build millions of smaller ones performing the same function. Controlling the motion of something on the atomic/molecular level through an external influence. At which point the kind of external influence matters...

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It sounds like you have a pretty good understanding of how this works.

As an Engineer "heat" is part of my job however I have come to see thermodynamics as kind of a joke. It's simply a measure of molecular motion nothing more.

So when we say something is hotter were really saying it's molecules are oscillating faster than something colder. As such it doesn't matter how we change the rate at which molecules oscillate only that they change. In our case heat is generated in the conductors through an electron scattering effect or excess excitation. However there is no valid reason why the opposite could not occur and the molecular motion becomes coordinated.

It's really interesting stuff and were basically talking about controlling the kind of motion of something on the atomic/molecular level and this motion is energy. Not unlike the notion of rather than building one large machine we would build millions of smaller ones performing the same function. Controlling the motion of something on the atomic/molecular level through an external influence. At which point the kind of external influence matters...

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When particles are ionized, stripping of electrons, the particles gain a positive charge. Now we are dealing with particles so what particles am I talking about!!

Particles are atoms, atoms of gas in my case, the atmosphere which already has a charge. The charge as known is 100v+ per meter above the ground, this is our stored energy and we need to extract it, so how is it done!!!

We can create our own low-energy plasma, within the existing plasma so in reality, we have just increased the existing charge. But what good has that done us, we have used energy to make a plasma in an already existing plasma!!!

Now comes the good bit ;D we capture the total plasma some 7-10,000 times a second within an external switched capacitance :D  open the door, let it in, close the door and what do we have!!! the plasma energy we made + the plasma energy from the atmosphere, let's say we just doubled our energy.

How the hell is that done!!! therein lies the secret 8)

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I believe you and I was just trying to add to the notion that everything is already in motion on every level.

The process by which you extract energy from an electric field gradient is similar to the way we can extract energy from any gradient.

I understand the process and if A is the environmental energy and B is our input energy then the result can be A+B as Steven Marks claimed. However few noticed that this is the same process as a heat pump where the input can add to the output. It does not generate heat it transforms a small amount of energy to move a greater quantity of energy as heat with a COP as high as 6.

I guess my point was that energy is energy in whatever form it may take and energy can be extracted from any gradient occurring in nature. As you say, once we understand the process how this is done then the world is your oyster.

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Regarding the original question:

Should a free energy device be released to the public?

As the question refers to "devices" which seemingly access the enormous energies of the Meta-Physical Realm:

The Correct Answer is:  No

"We" have proven that in our present "condition" we are not ready for such energy.

Those "Energies" have already been accessed to a limited extent by certain Military Black Programs.

"We" are too Warlike and too Destructive.

The Free Energy which "We" already have available to us is sufficient for our present Peaceful Needs.

Once "We" have lost our desire for "Wars" and "Destruction of Life" then we may be ready.

One day it shall be accomplished.


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Regarding the original question:

Should a free energy device be released to the public?

As the question refers to "devices" which seemingly access the enormous energies of the Meta-Physical Realm:


Where did you get that idea from?
   
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Another interesting aspect about free energy devices I found to be true is that 2 + 2 does not always equal 4.

Depending on the context, if one FE device operates at COP 2 and feeds the input of an identical device of COP 2 the output is not always 4. I learned this from building a three stage device like T.H.Moray and the actual output was closer to COP 100 in my estimation. I attributed this to the fact that while the path of conduction from one element to the other may be COP 2 it does not account for the external field effects between the elements, ie the environment or space the whole of the devices occupy.

Thus 1 unit of energy into the first FE element should equal 2 units out. Then two units of energy into the second element should equal 4 units out however by my measurements it was showing an exponential increase because of the combined field effects outside the context of simple conduction. Which feels self-evident now but not so much just before everything went completely sideways on me in that moment.

I mention this because Centraflow said he estimated his COP was near two which I call a doubler which is pretty standard for reasons I won't get into. However when we start combining series elements versus simply scaling there are dangers we should be aware of. In which case, in retrospect as I type, I may have saved some grief or caused a great deal. As Steven Marks implied, in many respects this is uncharted territory and we should be prepared. As he said, a kill switch is mandatory and a Geiger counter or EMF/electrometer would also be advised. 

“Toto, I've a feeling we're not in Kansas anymore.”... said Dorothy

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Regarding the original question:

Should a free energy device be released to the public?

As the question refers to "devices" which seemingly access the enormous energies of the Meta-Physical Realm:

The Correct Answer is:  No

"We" have proven that in our present "condition" we are not ready for such energy.

Those "Energies" have already been accessed to a limited extent by certain Military Black Programs.

"We" are too Warlike and too Destructive.

The Free Energy which "We" already have available to us is sufficient for our present Peaceful Needs.

Once "We" have lost our desire for "Wars" and "Destruction of Life" then we may be ready.

One day it shall be accomplished.

Perhaps the process is already in place and our education and enlightenment is under way .

The "Device" could  be the catalyst to prevent war and destruction, which is basically a perverted mix of greed and religion ,
along with psychopathic self interest.

Whatever the case, history is always being made NOW for those who may try to manipulate the past for their own agendas.

Some even try  to have a go at the future which never ends well .






   
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The Correct Answer is:  No
"We" have proven that in our present "condition" we are not ready for such energy.

No, the only rational answer is yes...

Had an interesting conversation on skype a few days back with a new member here probably half our age and he convinced me were both full of it. I believe he was right and I was wrong just as you are wrong for similar reasons. That's the thing isn't it?... if we cannot change or refuse to change were just another dinosaur pissing into the winds of time.

We will change and we will evolve and the translation to free energy is an integral part of this. As my kids might say, sucks being you because were about to rock...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsaTFcXVCNU
For Those About to Rock (We Salute You)

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Perhaps the process is already in place and our education and enlightenment is under way .

Yes, the Process has begun.

We are now beginning to SEE and to LEARN.

For many the Process of Learning TRUTH will be very painful and emotionally distressing.

Coming to grips with what EVIL has done and Who is Responsible.

Shattering the Illusion.

We will ALL be essentially re-made into something truly magnificent.

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We will change and we will evolve and the translation to free energy is an integral part of this. As my kids might say, sucks being you because were about to rock...

For Those About to Rock (We Salute You)

Coming from those "Who've Made the Deal for Fame and Fortune" deep inside the Darkness of the Illusion.

No, afraid that is not it at all.

But, you'll SEE as it soon comes to pass.

And, after recovery from your SHOCK, will be Amazed by How Good It IS!

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For many the Process of Learning TRUTH will be very painful and emotionally distressing.

My truth may be very painful and emotionally distressing to you because I intend to disclose how free energy works and there is nothing you can do about it. As many have implied... your screwed.

It's all a matter of free will and free speech in my opinion and your a dinosaur who's days are numbered. Facts don't care about your feelings or your beliefs...





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...I intend to disclose how free energy works and there is nothing you can do about it.

Bravo!  An effort long overdue!

Why would I want to do anything about it?

All I can do is wish you Great Success.  And hope that whatever you disclose is capable of Positive Replication by any who may be interested.

Are you referring to Unconventional Free Energy which has yet to be disclosed?

Or, are you referring to Conventional Free Energy and New and Creative Ways to Achieve Enhanced Efficiency?

I am sure that many will be eagerly looking forward to your disclosure.

Dinosaur you say?

Oh well, there is a variety of Dino that lives in the water.  A Nautical Dino known as "Nessie."

Perhaps the Oldest Sailor of All Time.


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I just had to share this. I love this blokes passion, humour and style. Many may remember him I first saw him in a aussie doco. He discusses this very topic when presenting his ‘over unity’ device. I make no judgement on the device but the presentation will make you laugh https://youtu.be/5TcPpwz7ZsY Doug konzen
   
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   When I was a kid in school, we would sometimes fight and throw rocks at each other.
But, now days the kids are so much smarter, and so much more advanced... they just use guns. 
   Rock on...
 
   Kids don't care about free energy. They care about how to make money with little to no work, and have some free sex, free pot, and rock music.  And have no idea what more they are in for, as part of the labor force, in the future.

   Our kids have lost faith in us. Just like we did with our parents, teachers, and school system. Yet, it's not their fault, nor ours.
Things seam to change for the worse after Kennedy was killed, as he was about to spill the beans.
I remember how people cried when Kennedy died... Will they cry for Biden, in the same way?


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   So, for some folks the answer to this thread is NO? We can't have and don't deserve FE. 
    Yet, it's ok for the military to have access...
    Since they are so trustworthy...
   
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Kids don't care about free energy. They care about free money and free sex, and ... and have no idea what they are in for.
   Our kids have lost faith in us. Just like we did with our parents, teachers, and school system. Yet, it's not their fault, or ours.
Things seam to change for the worse, after Kennedy was killed, as he was about to spill the beans. I remember how people cried...

I find your post very strange...

The kids I know are not only magnitudes smarter than I was at there age but much more goal oriented and responsible.

It's bizarre, the little children I knew 20 years ago in my circle of friends and family are now doctors, veterinarians, HVAC techs, electrical engineer's, heavy duty mechanics, horticulturalists and power engineers. So I find many opinions here about kids/young adults hard to understand because the young people I see and interact with are unbelievable. They have accomplished so much and done so much with there lives in such a short time it's mind boggling.

On free energy, most people have never even heard of it which explains why there are only a few forums with a relatively small number of people. You could pick 100 random people off the street anywhere and not one of them would think free energy was even a possibility. So while many here are consumed with free energy for the other 99% of the population it's not even on there radar.

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I just had to share this. I love this blokes passion, humour and style. Many may remember him I first saw him in a aussie doco. He discusses this very topic when presenting his ‘over unity’ device. I make no judgement on the device but the presentation will make you laugh https://youtu.be/5TcPpwz7ZsY Doug konzen

Thanks, Jim - interesting.  Whatever happened to Doug K and his device?
   
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