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People need to write stuff down if their memory is unreliable.

It is not about numbers; it is about rate.

It is about not crushing your health service

The USA had 3,260 deaths yesterday.

The USA had quarter of a million new cases yesterday.

...and some are still saying it is "Fake News" and other Trumpian nonsense.

We had 908 deaths for a population of 25,000,000 people
That is a death rate of just 0.003%

So while you might see it as a pandemic in your country,i certainly do not see any pandemic in our country.
This is how mother nature work's--natural selection.
Nothing you do will stop covid 19,and that is a fact.
The heavy lockdowns in the US are not working,you just proved that your self.you gave the numbers.

The very same happened in our country.
The worst hit state was also the state that introduced the heaviest lockdowns,while all the other states that had soft lockdowns did much better.
Lockdowns do not work period,and our country is proof of that.
Life is pretty much back to normal here now--has been for months.
But in the US,the saga continue's. The US is going  to drag this out for years if it does not change it's ways--and that's a fact.

We have 1 idiot at the helm over here,and his state accounted for 98% of all covid related deaths.
But the US has many idiots at the helm over there,like that Palosky-or what ever her name is. She made the news big time over here,telling every one to stay home,closing businesses down,and then she go's of to an organised secret haircut,giving the excuse that she has to maintain her looks because she is a public figure-->what a fruitcake. With clowns like that at the helm,you guys are screwed for the next 2 years at least.

Im guessing you are not a Trump fan,and so voted for the other clown.
That bloke can't even remember what he did or said yesterday,and yet you think he is fit to become the most powerful man in the world  :o
It's all down hill from here.




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So do we stop the grandkids from seeing there grand parent's,or do we stop our grandkids from seeing anyone at all ?.


Can we do either?

Politics is the art of the possible. Governments know that their police forces are not big enough to enforce anything, particularly with idiots like those on this board telling people not to wear masks and that wearing them will cause disease.

Governments are much more limited than we imagine.
   

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The USA had 3,260 deaths yesterday.

Making it essentially a day like any other day...

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The USA had quarter of a million new cases yesterday.

A "case" being a PCR Positive which Scientifically means nothing with
regard to the "Covid-19 Paranoia."

Are you inclined to believe the Mass Media instead of Real Science?


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1. Making it essentially a day like any other day...

2. A "case" being a PCR Positive which Scientifically means nothing with
regard to the "Covid-19 Paranoia."


1. The normal US daily death rate is about 8,000. Work it out, fool.

2. The PCR test is 70% reliable.

If a PCR positive has nothing to do with the pandemic, kindly provide evidence.


   
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In my opinion it's kind of messed up how the far right populists consider most scientific facts a hoax because of there political/religious views.

Where are we even at now?...
Apparently the covid pandemic is a hoax, climate change is a hoax, oh and elections are now a hoax, polluting fossil fuels are good, oh and pollution isn't really pollution unless you ingest/inhale it them your screwed, the Russians who would probably nuke us if they could are now our friends, the Chinese who build all our cool stuff are apparently the enemy and facts aren't really facts if we read some bs on the internet.

So basically any belief with no proof to support it is an "alternate fact" or lie as the experts call it and a fact we can prove with evidence is supposedly a hoax if we don't like it because some populist leader said so. It's turned into quite a shit show and I have to wonder how this is going to play out. I mean if anyone can call any random bs a fact and the facts we know a hoax I think were in trouble.

Personally I'm starting to think I should side with the real experts. Like them, develop some kick ass technology maybe FE, sell to the highest bidder and retire on the beach somewhere. Let the believers live with there "alternative facts" which I suspect isn't going to turn out well. I mean you can't eat an alternative fact and it won't power your house or truck so what good is it really?.

I like Elon Musk's attitude, as a fellow Engineer he said he expected all his businesses to fail because the risk was high but he managed to make progress. It was all cutting edge where there was a massive number of unknowns but as he said the risk was worth the result. So there is a lesson here, take the risk if the result is warranted based on the verifiable facts however being a pussy based on others false beliefs is probably not the way forward... basically never the way forward.

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If a PCR positive has nothing to do with the pandemic, kindly provide evidence.

I could provide a link to "evidence" but would that be the "kind" thing to do?

I fear that such link would be both the beginning and the end of your search for Truth about this matter.

Much preferred would be your taking the initiative to find "evidence" and follow it decisively and with
diligence to wherever it may lead.

Only then will Truth become your own.  Only then will you believe.

Spoon Feeding simply creates a dependency and stifles independent initiative.

It is my belief that encouraging you to dig on your own is the 'Kind" response.

Then you may finally break free from the Mass Media Indoctrination and "spoon feeding"
of doses of what to think and what to believe.

By the way, the Papers, Reports and Analyses are abundant.


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I could provide a link to "evidence" but would that be the "kind" thing to do?

I fear that such link would be both the beginning and the end of your search for Truth about this matter.


Please don't worry yourself on my account.

Provide the evidence because if you don't, you become a discredited fool who makes baseless assertions.

   

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Please don't worry yourself on my account.

Provide the evidence because if you don't, you become a discredited fool who makes baseless assertions.

I fully expected as much. :D

The Human Mind is a terrible thing to waste. :'(

Have you progressed intellectually beyond your teens yet? C.C

Your response seems to indicate not. :(


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I fully expected as much. :D

The Human Mind is a terrible thing to waste. :'(

Have you progressed intellectually beyond your teens yet? C.C

Your response seems to indicate not. :(

You have nothing to offer.

   

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You have nothing to offer.

We have offered you plenty,but you choose just to ignore that which does not suit your agenda.

As i showed some time back,just as many people die from motor vehicle accidents each year,so should we all stop driving vehicles to save the lives of those who would otherwise loose it?.
Going by what you call a pandemic,then each year we have a pandemic of traffic accident deaths-there is 0 difference.

There was no pandemic in my country,as 998 deaths in a population of over 22 million is not a pandemic.
More die each year from the flu,and it is never called a pandemic,nor do we have any sort of lockdown..


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We have offered you plenty,but you choose just to ignore that which does not suit your agenda.


Mudped said that the PCR test has nothing to do with Covid-19. I asked for his source. That's all.

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If they get their mandatory vaccine agenda accomplished with covid, it will be a precedent and will use that in the future whether we like it or not.

Gates wanted to vaccinate religious people as he considers them to be fanatics. If he thinks he can and wants to do that, what else would they want to do to us?

This is not a game. The doctors are involved in this scandal. There are not as many covid deaths(covid only) as they say. like brad said, its all about control. Agenda21 is now agenda 2030. And they are pushing for it tooth and bone in recent years and even more now.

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If they get their mandatory vaccine agenda accomplished with covid, it will be a precedent and will use that in the future whether we like it or not.

I'm not aware of any country ordering anyone to get vaccinations however they do have laws and regulations regarding harm to others.

An interesting debate came up recently which I touched on when Covid started and few were taking precautions. As home/business owners, if someone gets hurt or infected on our property we can be sued for damages and legal expenses. So now the warning went out that house insurance does not cover infections and owners can be sued for damages as always.

Do you see my point, nobody will be forced to get vaccinated however there is no free lunch and if people want to take no precautions and not get vaccinated then they will still be held accountable for there actions most likely in court. Personally, if someone purposely took no precautions and I had proof they infected me or my family doing harm I would sue them for everything they own.

There is also liability, you don't have to get your kids vaccinated however the school doesn't have allow your kids to go to school possibly infecting others. You don't have to get vaccinated however your employer doesn't have to employ people like you who could infect the other employees and customers. Get my drift?, we are free to do as we please within reason likewise so are others to protect themselves, it works both ways.

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Gates wanted to vaccinate religious people as he considers them to be fanatics...


Where does this come from?
   
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I see much debate about the so called Covid-19 pandemic and all the ramifications such as masks, spacing, and vaccination.  Can ANYBODY here show me scientific proof that the SARS-C0V2 aka Covid-19 virus even exists?

This is the question because if the existence of this virus can not be scientifically proven, then we have had our freedoms and our economies stolen from us worldwide!

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Can ANYBODY here show me scientific proof that the SARS-C0V2 aka Covid-19 virus even exists?


Yes, I can.

   
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Yes, I can.

OK but I see nothing at this point!

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OK but I see nothing at this point!

Pm

You asked me if I can. Well, the answer is: Yes, I can.

Do you wish me to explain as well?
   
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I see much debate about the so called Covid-19 pandemic and all the ramifications such as masks, spacing, and vaccination.  Can ANYBODY here show me scientific proof that the SARS-C0V2 aka Covid-19 virus even exists?

In the populist movement this is a common theme which I find interesting.

You could simply google the question whether Covid 19 exists and find all the science based facts you could ever want however you didn't do that. Instead you chose to cast doubt essentially proving you have no interest in the facts but want to project your own beliefs.

As if to say I'm going to ask a question I already know the answer to, not to get an answer but to cast doubt then gaslight you when you try to respond.

I mean, you don't honestly think we haven't seen all this crap before have you?. It's standard operating procedure for these populist groups and as we know everyone is getting wise to what there doing. Not unlike Paul's response which was the right one not to fall for this nonsense.

So have fun with it but as we know the party is almost over and for many it's time to sober up.

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To Paul-R and AC,

So, where was the application of Kock's postulates in the detection of this so-called virus or is this not important? 

Or, the reports from Wuhan virologists where they took 30+ base pair samples from a few supposedly infected people and then used a software algorithm to produce the needed 30K+ base pairs for the sequence then, from these results proclaimed to the world that there was a deadly virus?  Are you OK with this?

So where is the scientific proof?

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To Paul-R and AC,

So, where was the application of Kock's postulates in the detection of this so-called virus or is this not important? 

Or, the reports from Wuhan virologists where they took 30+ base pair samples from a few supposedly infected people and then used a software algorithm to produce the needed 30K+ base pairs for the sequence then, from these results proclaimed to the world that there was a deadly virus?  Are you OK with this?

So where is the scientific proof?

Pm

You're making life too complicated.

In Wuhan, about a year ago, people were going down like nine pins with a sort of winter virus which responded to nothing and produced very different symptoms. Clearly, it wasn't what they were assuming.

They examined it, classified and catalogued it and recognised it as a member of the coronavirus family. They then assign to it the label SARS-COV-2.

Patients who have the ingredients are SARS-COV-2 patients.

It's that simple.
   
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You're making life too complicated.

Perhaps.

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In Wuhan, about a year ago, people were going down like nine pins with a sort of winter virus which responded to nothing and produced very different symptoms. Clearly, it wasn't what they were assuming.

I'm sure you are aware that China has the worst air quality in the world and 100's of thousands die each year from bacterial pneumonia and other similar air pollution maladies.

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They examined it, classified and catalogued it and recognised it as a member of the coronavirus family. They then assign to it the label SARS-COV-2.

Patients who have the ingredients are SARS-COV-2 patients.

Here is exactly the crux of the problem and that is, how they "examined it, classified and catalogued it and recognized it"!  They did not use the GOLD Standard (Koch's Postulates) to determine if there even was a virus.  In fact, they did not even meet one of the four postulates in their analysis.
 
I can find no true scientific evidence that SARS-COV2 exists.  Please correct me if I'm wrong.


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I think not!

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I can find no true scientific evidence that SARS-COV2 exists.


Dear Partz,

Have you ever sat down with a clinician at a very busy hospital to talk about the situation - presumably with a view to telling them that the whole crisis is in their imagination? They will be living neaby - maybe up the road, maybe down the road. You could find someone if you want to but there is a realistic possiblity that you will get hit.

The theory that covid doesn't exist is up there with the theory that NASA never went to the moon. (They couldn't keep a long extended secret like that going for 60 years, with 400,000 people involved. It's just silly).

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The theory that covid doesn't exist is up there with the theory that NASA never went to the moon. (They couldn't keep a long extended secret like that going for 60 years, with 400,000 people involved. It's just silly).

It's one thing to make a reasonable argument in a rational way with some kind of justification however most of this conspiracy theory/hoax nonsense we see on the net is propaganda. I get it and I tend to question everything as well however spamming the internet with repetitive nonsense like the Earth is flat is not informative nor debatable it's propaganda.

Propaganda...information, especially of a biased or misleading nature, used to promote or publicize a particular political cause or point of view.

So let's not kid ourselves and we all know where this is coming from and why. It's obviously not happening all over the world and the majority of it is coming out of the U.S from these far right populist groups. Note I didn't say republicans nor did I say right wing because the majority are pretty rational people. I am talking about the extremists on both the right and left pushing false narratives and propaganda all over the net to create chaos.

In any case all this conspiracy/hoax nonsense has nothing to do with free energy or improving anything and it's meant to distract from real debate. Obviously it's working... look at the forums.

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All,

I will present to you real science concerning "Covid-19".  You can take this info, reach your own conclusions and believe what you want.  I have asked for scientific proof that Covid-19 exists and thus far have received none.

This research was published by the Spanish medical journal D-Salud-Discovery.  Here is a list of their advisory board of eminently qualified physicians and scientists-

https://www.dsalud.com/consejo-asesor/

Their research article is translated to English in the pdf attached below.  Please note they also invalidate the PCR test.

Read and learn!

Pm

   
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