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You seem to like fact's,but you continue to provide number's that do not represent fact's.


What numbers?

   
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Can you get the numbers for those that died from covid 19 alone,without having any other health issue's ?.


The number you ask for may not be exactly obtainable because the record keeping is probably not precise enough. Back in March/April, conditions were pretty chaotic.

What you need is the number called "excess deaths". See attached.

(The attachment is a guide but is of poor quality. This is the source:
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6942e2.htm )

   

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In 1918 there was the Spanish flu epidemic "a covid", it killed millions. It was not really Spanish! the probabilities were it came from the USA via American soldiers.

Why did it kill so many! and why it killed more from the poor sectors especially in Spain, but it was over 2-3yrs worldwide.

I can answer that, who else can answer it?

Spanish flu, so-called, was a flu strain like any other that we see every year, but covid-19 is special, it not only affects the lungs leading to pneumonia but affects other organs as well, and is 10 times more contagious.

My daughter-in-law is in charge of the covid unit at a large hospital near my home town in the UK. Grumage knows which one I talk about.

Get real, because it is very very real what is going on, and if there is any conspiracy to look at it is of where it came from to start with.

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This viewpoint is the one the authorities provide. I know it, Paul. It is a question of spreading the epidemic over time in order to avoid hospital overcrowding.

Herd immunity will not solve this pandemic.

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My opinion is that individual liberty should not be prohibited for any pretext, and certainly not in the name of an epidemic that only causes 1% of deaths among those infected, many of whom are already at the end of their lives. It is up to each individual to limit his or her risks by his or her own choices, and up to the politicians to inform them and to size up the healthcare system.

Individual liberty is a slippery slope because many equate it with a lack of responsibility or accountability.

For example, you may think you have the right to do as you please during the pandemic however if you were infected and infected others causing damage and death in reality you are personally responsible.

So what your really implying is you want all the benefits of freedom but none of the accountability. Which is where things get tricky because if everyone was always accountable for every action like responsible adults then those infecting others because they took no precautions should be sued for damage and sent to prison. The law is quite clear, if someone does harm due to there own ignorance they are still responsible for the damage it causes.

So why would you think you can do as you please knowing, by your own admission, that it could kill 1% of people?. That's kind of like saying I know my actions could kill 1% of people but they could never prove it was me or hold me to account therefore it's okay. That is what your implying isn't it?.

I find it mind boggling that so many want to be treated like adults but act like children not held responsible for there actions... it's just mind boggling.

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It is becoming ever more apparent that the concept "Dislodge your brain!" is a difficult
thing for some here.

The so-called "Off-Topic" discussions have not been in vain.

The benefit of Candid Discussion is that one is able to discern various traits as the discussion
proceeds.

Traits such as:

Who are the Clear Thinkers?

Who are the Critical Thinkers?

Who are the Easily Deceived?

Who are the Truth Seekers?

Who can be Trusted?

Traits that otherwise would be unknown.

I am thankful that the discussions have taken place.

I am appreciative of all who have participated.

Many thanks!


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It is becoming ever more apparent that the concept "Dislodge your brain!" is a difficult
thing for some here.

The so-called "Off-Topic" discussions have not been in vain.

The benefit of Candid Discussion is that one is able to discern various traits as the discussion
proceeds.

Traits such as:

Who are the Clear Thinkers?

Who are the Critical Thinkers?

Who are the Easily Deceived?

Who are the Truth Seekers?

Who can be Trusted?

Traits that otherwise would be unknown.

I am thankful that the discussions have taken place.

I am appreciative of all who have participated.

Many thanks!

It didn't take long for you to turn up and trivialise. Why not
stick to the threads you have already spoiled, mudped?

   
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...you [think] you can do as you please knowing, by your own admission, that it could kill 1% of people?


It's not just about people who die. Even if patients survive, they often have serious or very serious organ damage and the condition of "long covid", not well understood, keeps the disease going for months.

   

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It's not just about people who die. Even if patients survive, they often have serious or very serious organ damage and the condition of "long covid", not well understood, keeps the disease going for months.

Yes, it would seem those who claim to have unquestionable morals and faith are content to let 1% of those at risk die to save the economy and continue to line their own wallet. What a gong show...





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When Engineered Biological Warfare Agents are tested upon the General Populations the resulting
biological effects can be unpredictable and surprising.

Unfortunately, we do not know what the Biological Warfare Agents were precisely.  What has been
labeled Covid-19 has not been isolated and identified.  In fact, the Warfare Agents released at various
locations World-Wide may have been different in each location.

We will not know the specifics until the Perpetrators are identified and taken into custody.  Among its
other duties, the Kraken is working on that too.

The Mass Media Narrative is incorrect.

One thing is certain:  Healthy People  are not "spreaders."


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1. When Engineered Biological Warfare Agents are tested upon the General Populations the resulting
biological effects can be unpredictable and surprising.

2. Unfortunately, we do not know what the Biological Warfare Agents were precisely. 

3. What has been labeled Covid-19 has not been isolated and identified. 

4. In fact, the Warfare Agents released at various locations World-Wide may have been different in each location.

5. We will not know the specifics until the Perpetrators are identified and taken into custody. 

6. Among its other duties, the Kraken is working on that too.

7. The Mass Media Narrative is incorrect.

8. One thing is certain:  Healthy People  are not "spreaders."


1. When our grandmothers are shown to have wheels, they become bicycles

2. Provide proof they existed

3. Show your proof

4. Show your proof

5. I suppose this is true if not useful

6. You did too much acid in the 60s.

7. Show your proof

8. WRONG. Asymptomatic people are frequently spreaders and usually healthy.
   

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The Proof you seek is a function of Time.

Be patient.  Truth is forthcoming in Due Time.

In the meantime, Watch, Observe and Learn.


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In the news...
China said it will be off fossil fuels by 2060, 40 years from now. Most other countries have made similar claims. Which may explain why Exxon is a sinking ship and got kicked off the Dow.

That's the thing, it doesn't matter what people believe because the people are investing with there wallet. So all this nonsense about fossil fuels being around 100 years from now is just more nonsense...its over.

Its time for clean free energy .

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Herd immunity will not solve this pandemic.

Regards

Mike 8)

So you think it better to drag it out for years then?
Lock downs put in place every time 10 or more people catch covid 19 in the one state.
Restrictions applied to everyone on the account of a few.
Live's and livelyhoods destroyed on a mass scale because just 1% of the 10% of the population who caught covid 19 died.

What about all the suicides that have taken place due to the destruction of life style's during this !so called! pandemic ?. 100s of 1000s of people loosing everything they had,in way of income and social life style. People being kicked to the streets because they cant pay there rent,due to having no income.

Why is it that the WHO and nearly every doctor that has half a brain says being in open space is the safest place to be,but yet everyone is to remain in there home's or crowded hotel's.

Why is it that our state never had such restrictions,even though we did have covid cases,and it is our state that had the lowest number of covid death's ?,but in another state. on the other side of the country,they had the hardest lockdown in Australia,and recorded 98% of all covid related deaths in the country.

You can either choose to believe what you see on main stream media,or you can stand back and look at actual result's that are factual.

It is the very same as this global warming bullshit.
Very few actually take the time to stand back and !smell the roses!.
Most are happy to believe anything the main stream media or government tells them.

Does anyone actually do this-->stand back and use your own brain?.

Answer me these few questions--

1- When i was a young child,the days were that hot that our shoe's and bicycle tire's use to stick to the road's,due to the bitumen getting that hot it would turn to a liquid. I have not seen a day hot enough to do this in the last 25 years or so.

2- If the world is getting hotter,why has not the sea level rose like they have been claiming for the last 15 year's. ?.  I visited one of my old swimming places as a child just a week ago--thought i would stop there for lunch.
Nothing at all has changed there,the old grass playing field near the river is just as it was 45 years ago.
The rock wall between the river and grass field has not been altered,and yet the water level at high tide is exactly as it was 45 years ago  O0.

3- If the world is heating up,why is there less rainfall as they claim?.
I mean,if it was actually getting hotter,then that would result in more evaporation of the oceans waters,which in turn should result in a higher rain fall-should it not?. I mean all that extra evaporated water has to go somewhere.

And the list of bullshit go's on and on.

How about the moon landing's  C.C
Yes,there are people that still actually believe this took place-->because they saw it on TV,or the government said it happened. People actually believe that the cardbord shitbox below landed man on the moon. :D
Let's all ignore the fact that they kept crashing the training craft (three of the five LLRV vehicles were destroyed in crashes here on earth under very controlled conditions),and just accept the fact that they managed to get it right-not one time,but did it successfully 6 times without a single crash--on the moon. O0

We will also ignore the fact that a 2 billion dollar space shuttle with all the modern equipment didn't even make it to orbit,and took out 7 people,but the cardbord shitbox landed man on the moon.

Let's not take into account that NASA can't even get a man to the moon now,but did it back in 69  O0
They lost all the specs from those days to build a craft that could take man to the moon !apparently! C.C

Some of us asked--where is the blast crater from the landers rocket engine.
Here on earth,the lander weighed around 30,000lb. So in the moon's gravity,it would have weighed around 5000lb (2.5 ton). So the rocket engine would have to have been producing something like 4800lb of thrust to lower the lander gently to the surface--but no blast crater  O0
We have all heard the garbage explanations for this,but common physics blow's them all out of the water.
They say that the thrust was spread due to the rockets exhaust cone shape,but simple rocket science and the understanding of mass traveling through space void of atmosphere says there should have been one hell of a crater.

Then there is the unforgettable !slow motion! moon rover's lol.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EliLP5uEYAU

Would you expect it to be in slow motion here on earth?,if not,then why is it in slow motion on the moon.'
Now,i know it would fall back to the moons surface slower,due to the lower gravity,but that also means it should shoot up faster than here on earth when it hit's a big bump. But we do not see that,we see slow up,and slow down. To hell with force/mass/acceleration,this is the moon landings.  O0

Watch--slow up,and slow down,when it should be fast up,and slow down.
Here on earth,there would be no slow motion. It would be fast up,and fast down.
But no,not on the moon missions. It's slow up,and slow down.
The law's of physics just don't apply when your on the moon.  O0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHeOpJh5Q-M

And then there is good old mythbusters lol.
They try to show man landing quicker on earth than they do on the moon.
But what they actually did was show that in both cases,on the moon and on earth,both men leaving the ground at the same time,rising to the same height,and at the very same time.
Odd how the man on earth seem to accelerate slightly faster up,when the man on the moon who would weigh just 1/6th the weight,rises slower when applying the same upward force as the man on earth-->force/mass/acceleration  O0
But as we said before,the laws of physics go out the window when your on the moon lol.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbLAy73CSuQ

Who here is game to explain as to why the astronaut rises up just as slowly as he falls back down when he jump's ? Why is it in normal motion here on earth,but in slow motion on the moon?.

I would say that the moon landings would have the be the biggest hoax the human population has fallen for.
You seen it on TV,and the government/NASA said it happened,and you believed.

The very same thing is happening with the covid 19 !pandemic!
Forget about actual fact's,and just believe.


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There is one constant in the universe and it is change.

Everything will change and there is nothing we can do about it because we will be gone. So rather than deny change we cannot do anything about it is best to accept it.

Society is changing, the planet is changing, technology is changing, the climate is changing, we are changing, everything must change... deal with it.

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The number you ask for may not be exactly obtainable because the record keeping is probably not precise enough. Back in March/April, conditions were pretty chaotic.

What you need is the number called "excess deaths". See attached.

(The attachment is a guide but is of poor quality. This is the source:
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6942e2.htm )

What you need is actual death's from covid 19 it self,and only covid 19.

I mean,we could have a bad flu season one year,and the results would be much the same.
We would see an increase in total death's including the flu.

!They! seem to have no trouble giving accurate numbers of death from diabetes alone,
and from heart disease alone,and from cancer alone,but can't seem to provide number's for covid 19 only deaths.

Do you know how many healthy people have died from covid 19 only ?

If you wish to present fact's,then this is a number you have to find.
There is no problem finding that number for the other death related illnesses i mention,so why is it so hard for covid 19.

Are you going to take the vaccine when it come's out Paul ?
How do we know how effective it is going to be ?
The flu vaccine has been around for years now,and they (the experts) recon they have it all sorted.
But then we see that even with this wonderful flu vaccine,80,000+ people still die from the flu each year,even though 60% of the US population get there flu shot's.

Once again i look at actual fact's that i witness my self.
Here is one for you. When i was working for BHP at the port loading ship's,our team of 13 people was asked by our employer if we wanted the yearly flu shot. 11 said yes,and 2 of us said no--i was one of the two.
In the following month's,every single one of those who had there flu shot had time off from work due to catching the flu. Guess who were the only two that never had time off work due to the flu,or caught the flu that season. O0

So what happens when people start taking this covid vaccine?
What happens when this covid strain mutate's ?. That's right-->vaccine now useless.
New strain of covid now out into the public= more world wide lock downs,and more suffering.

Like the flu,you are not going to eliminate covid,no matter what strain of the covid virus it is.
The human race has lived through far worse than this,and it will live through this as well,regardless of a vaccine or not.

What you should be asking your self is--where the hell did it come from?,who made it and why?.
 Was it really a human eating a bat that got it all going?
Would they have not first cooked the bat?,and would this high temperature not kill any virus the bat may have had?.

Who stands to benefit from an outbreak like this?.

What happened in Australia?-->many many small businesses went under(no longer here),while the big companies made huge profit's during the !!pandemic!! .
The little cake shop who would hold no more than 10 people at a time was shut down,while Bunnings(the big hardware giant in Australia) remained open,and 100's of people at a time were aloud to mingle in the store's.

This (covid 19) is nothing more than another tyrannical power grab by a group of people that should be hung from the gallows.


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For reference:-

Annual influenza epidemics result in about 3-5 million cases of severe illness and about 250,000 to 500,000 deaths.

Influenza this year has been a lot lot less due to Covid 19 prevention by wearing masks, keeping distance, washing hands frequently etc etc etc.

Covid 19 results

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/?utm_campaign=homeAdvegas1?%22

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What you need is actual death's from covid 19 it self,and only covid 19.

Do you know how many healthy people have died from covid 19 only ?

If you wish to present fact's,then this is a number you have to find.


The answer is in my text that you quote in this reply.

   

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Yes, it would seem those who claim to have unquestionable morals and faith are content to let 1% of those at risk die to save the economy and continue to line their own wallet. What a gong show...

And what percentage of the worlds population is 1% of those at risk ?

Morals and faith lol. I mean the USA had no problem dropping hydrogen bomb's on two major Japanese city's,and killing 220,000 odd people in a matter of second's. But that's ok,morals to the side during war-hey AC.

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save the economy and continue to line their own wallet

Yes,your right.
It is better that 80% of the world's population remain under dictator rule,and suffer for the next 5 odd year;'s,not knowing where the next dollar is coming from to buy there next meal,and if they will have to move out of the family home,due to not being able to pay the rent or mortgage.
Yes,it is better that the world suffer for that 1% of those at risk.

Would it not be smarter to make sure that those 1% of those at risk are kept in a safe environment,and let the rest of the population keep the world going.

How long do you think the world could actually keep going like this?
How long before the food run's out?
What happens with all them small businesses ?.
The list go's on.
You simply cannot keep a world in a lock down state.

Here is a question for you AC--
Would you expect or want your family to endanger there lives for the sake of your's?

Here is the ratio as it stands AC--51315:1
So 51315 people should have there whole life turned into one big shit show so as one person may live ?,only to find that that person died 2 months later due to other underlying health issue's,because that is how it is AC--no healthy person die's from covid 19.

In retrospect--
And i am only using this as an example,as it is a good clear example.

In 1945,the population of America was 139.9 million.
The two hydrogen bombs dropped on Japan that year killed 220,000+ people.
So the ratio for that was 635.9:1
America did this to end the war with Japan.
It was acceptable that 1 person would die so as 635 people could live a good and safe life.
But according to you AC,it is unacceptable that 1 person should die so as 51315 people may life a safe and happy life.

Some time's i just do not understand some people's logic  ???


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The answer is in my text that you quote in this reply.

No.
Those graph's show !excess! deaths.
They do not show deaths from covid alone.


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No.
Those graph's show !excess! deaths.
They do not show deaths from covid alone.


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Influenza this year has been a lot lot less due to Covid 19 prevention by wearing masks, keeping distance, washing hands frequently etc etc etc.

It seems that has become the "consensus" amongst the gullible Public who continually
parrot the Mass Media Narrative.  Repeating faithfully what they are told.

Paying no attention to Accurate Scientific Research Papers which prove otherwise.

Stupidity seems to be an incredibly Contagious malady brought to us by Television.


But, there is a wee bit o' good news:

True Leadership: Alberta Premier Jason Kenney REJECTS “The Great Reset”

There is yet hope for Canada!

Excellent video


And, sadly, some not so good news:

Walter Williams (1936-2020)

We've lost a Couraegeous Man and Brilliant Mind with Walter Williams passing.



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The text, not the image.

The text says not obtainable .


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The text says not obtainable .

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The quoted text said:

"The number you ask for may not be exactly obtainable because the record keeping is probably not precise enough. Back in March/April, conditions were pretty chaotic".

The nurses and doctors were struggling to keep their heads above water and prevent meltdown. Alarms were going off - oxygen would be running out - drips were running low - they were not in the mood for office paperwork.

It's a problem but usually the reality was too bloody obvious for words. Anyway, "excess deaths" says everything.
   

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The quoted text said:

"The number you ask for may not be exactly obtainable because the record keeping is probably not precise enough. Back in March/April, conditions were pretty chaotic".

The nurses and doctors were struggling to keep their heads above water and prevent meltdown. Alarms were going off - oxygen would be running out - drips were running low - they were not in the mood for office paperwork.

It's a problem but usually the reality was too bloody obvious for words.

Where did this happen?,as here in WA the hospitals were like ghost town's.
In fact,many of our health workers were told to take annual leave,or they were just laid off altogether.

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Anyway, "excess deaths" says everything.

Excess deaths say nothing at all.
For example,if we have a timber plank sitting on two legs(one either end),and we place 9 brick's on that plank,and the plank has a bow in it,but does not break,but then we place one more brick on it(the covid brick),and it does break,was the last brick the cause of the plank breaking?.

Now,those that seem to have this thinking that covid is what is killing everyone would say yes,the last brick was the cause of the plank breaking. But the smart people realize that if the other 9 bricks were not on the plank,then the plank would have very little bow in it,and the plank would definitely not break.

This means that no one dies from covid 19 alone-->the number is 0
A pandemic is a virus or such that alone kill's--like the plague,the black death.


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