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MasterBlaster	Dislodge your brain! « on: 2020-11-15, 13:24:16 »
Jr. Member Posts: 77	I am sharing a link and hope you will be as impressed as I am: This equation will change how you see the world (the logistic map) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovJcsL7vyrk

Allcanadian	Re: Dislodge your brain! « Reply #1 on: 2020-11-15, 17:17:20 »
Group: Moderator Hero Member Posts: 2735	I like Veritasium video's and he touches on some really interesting subjects. He shows a few things I learned from nature and experiments. Many believe Entropy dominates always moving towards more disorganization and equilibrium or heat death. However nature doesn't work that way and Entropy always balances with Syntropy. Entropy radiates and Syntropy concentrates because something going somewhere must always arrive somewhere and be conserved. So in nature we see chaotic behavior whenever something approaches a certain threshold or tipping point. A neat experiment is the double pendulum where a pendulum is mounted on each side of a balanced beam. If we move pendulum A it will oscillate as expected however then A slows as B increases, B reaches maximum, then B slows as A increases and it repeats. The balanced beam creates a beat oscillation whereby pendulum A and B swing alternately not together or chaotically as some might expect. Here we see the notion of Entropy or more disorganization/chaos does not always hold. If Entropy held the oscillations would become more chaotic until they ceased but this is not how nature works in reality. While Entropy seeks to dissipate energy Syntropy wants to concentrate energy and they balance in accordance with the Conservation of Energy. This is the basis of producing a gain in energy in a system by using a process of Syntropy versus Entropy. We cannot create or destroy energy only transform it through a process which either dissipates or concentrates, equal yet opposite. Obviously everyone knows all about Entropy as it was taught in school but what about Syntropy... the other half of the equation?. Regards --------------------------- Comprehend and Copy Nature... Viktor Schauberger “The first principle is that you must not fool yourself and you are the easiest person to fool.”― Richard P. Feynman

Allcanadian	Re: Dislodge your brain! « Reply #2 on: 2020-11-15, 18:42:58 »
Group: Moderator Hero Member Posts: 2735	I really like this video... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S58vlJwhwDw Will America’s disregard for science be the end of its reign? \| Big Think It covers a broad range of subjects with respect to anti-science and anti-free energy. Regards --------------------------- Comprehend and Copy Nature... Viktor Schauberger “The first principle is that you must not fool yourself and you are the easiest person to fool.”― Richard P. Feynman

muDped	Re: Dislodge your brain! « Reply #3 on: 2020-11-16, 00:16:54 »
Group: Tinkerer Hero Member Posts: 3055	Both videos linked in postings above were quite interesting: This equation will change how you see the world (the logistic map) Will America’s disregard for science be the end of its reign? \| Big Think The first video demonstrated that the Universe with its Numerous Laws which define physical behaviors is incredibly complex and that Mathematical Models do indeed have limitations. There are still many, many unknowns. The Water Drip sequence may be quite baffling from a purely Mathematical viewpoint but any Physicist worth his/her salt could easily explain it. Various forces at work. The second video demonstrates that Institutional Science has indeed become a Cult. That unless one believes what Institutional Science has declared to be "Truth" and eschews all that Institutional Science has declared to be "unscientific" then one will be of questionable sanity. Any who doubt their "Science" or their integrity, motives and agenda is deemed a Heretic to be shunned and marginalized. Has Climate Change or Global Warming been in reality proved to be due to Human Activities? Or are there in fact "covert" activities ongoing to manipulate Climate to create the Illusion of of Change or Warming? There is hardly the Scientific Consensus that is claimed by the Institutional Spokesmen in the video. When it comes to comprehending the Real Powers who Control this World, those who claim to be "Science Experts" can be incredibly naive. Easily fooled. The message: "We are the Experts. You must believe US!" Bollox. The "Experts" are advocating that one must wear "blinders" in order to avoid exposure to Truth that they deem to be "Fake." Belief in their "Illusion" is mandatory. Same old same old. More Manipulation and Control of their AGENDA to exercise the POWER. In a word: 1984 The efforts to Indoctrinate into Globalism never end... Could it be that their "Egos" are pained by the Great Awakening because more and more of the People are beginning to See Through their Deception? « Last Edit: 2020-11-16, 01:23:57 by muDped » --------------------------- For there is nothing hidden that will not be disclosed, and nothing concealed that will not be known or brought out into the open.

Allcanadian	Re: Dislodge your brain! « Reply #4 on: 2020-11-16, 16:29:29 »
Group: Moderator Hero Member Posts: 2735	mudped Quote When it comes to comprehending the Real Powers who Control this World, those who claim to be "Science Experts" can be incredibly naive. Easily fooled. The message: "We are the Experts. You must believe US!" The problem is most populists have proven they don't actually believe most of what there claiming. When there sick they run to an expert doctor, when there computer breaks they call an expert technician, when there truck blows a gasket they call an expert mechanic. You claim you don't believe the experts but every time you have a problem... there the first person you call. Not unlike the Conservation of Energy fiasco, most claim to believe in the COE for obvious reasons like we can't get something from nothing. However the first thing that comes out of there mouth when confronted with a free energy device is... "that must violate the COE". Wait a minute, they claimed to believe in the COE but now there saying they don't believe it and a device just created energy from nothing?. You see, as a person who actually understands the COE it would never cross my mind that the COE was violated or ever could be. From a psychological perspective it's really interesting that so many people claim to believe so many things but continue to prove they don't in reality. They say one thing then do the exact opposite of what they just said, lol. For the record no real expert has claimed anyone must believe them as you falsely claimed. The experts claim these are the facts we know and you can believe what you want. You are entitled to your own beliefs but not your own facts which would seem to be your problem in my opinion... you have no proof of your claims. Regards --------------------------- Comprehend and Copy Nature... Viktor Schauberger “The first principle is that you must not fool yourself and you are the easiest person to fool.”― Richard P. Feynman

Paul-R	Re: Dislodge your brain! « Reply #5 on: 2020-11-16, 16:55:03 »
Hero Member Posts: 1579	Quote from: Allcanadian on 2020-11-16, 16:29:29 Not unlike the Conservation of Energy fiasco, most claim to believe in the COE for obvious reasons like we can't get something from nothing. However the first thing that comes out of there mouth when confronted with a free energy device is... "that must violate the COE"... There is a major snag with the COE, namely that one must consider ALL forms of energy, including forms that we don't yet know about. It is the failure, nay, the inability, to consider the latter which ruins many a COE equation. « Last Edit: 2020-11-16, 18:16:12 by Paul-R »

Allcanadian	Re: Dislodge your brain! « Reply #6 on: 2020-11-16, 18:44:46 »
Group: Moderator Hero Member Posts: 2735	Paul-R Quote There is a major snag with the COE, namely that one must consider ALL forms of energy, including forms that we don't yet know about. It is the failure, nay, the inability, to consider the latter which ruins many a COE equation. I always thought there might be a better term we could use than OU or FE. In society the moment we use these terms the first thing that pops into peoples heads is a violation of the COE or something for nothing. It's almost programmed into them from the old days of thermodynamics and heat engines. Maybe something like "universal energy", or have a contest for the best name. Regards --------------------------- Comprehend and Copy Nature... Viktor Schauberger “The first principle is that you must not fool yourself and you are the easiest person to fool.”― Richard P. Feynman

Paul-R	Re: Dislodge your brain! « Reply #7 on: 2020-11-16, 19:04:27 »
Hero Member Posts: 1579	Quote from: Allcanadian on 2020-11-16, 18:44:46 Paul-R I always thought there might be a better term we could use than OU or FE... I use the term "New Energy Systems". It works well.

MasterBlaster	Re: Dislodge your brain! « Reply #8 on: 2020-11-16, 20:53:02 »
Jr. Member Posts: 77	Thanks for your comment. OK so you thought you knew about Fibonacci numbers: Here is the next one: Phi VBM Tori Array https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxuU8jYkA1k

muDped	Re: Dislodge your brain! « Reply #9 on: 2020-11-17, 00:41:11 »
Group: Tinkerer Hero Member Posts: 3055	Quote from: AC When there sick they run to an expert doctor, when there computer breaks they call an expert technician, when there truck blows a gasket they call an expert mechanic. You claim you don't believe the experts but every time you have a problem... there the first person you call. When the services of an Expert are called for it is prudent to select the Expert with discretion. Seek to find the Expert who truly exemplifies the calling to serve his fellow Humans; there are many. Avoid the "Expert" who is indoctrinated into the Globalist Agenda and who serves as a Political Mouthpiece whose job it is is to promote the Globalist Elite Action Plan to Trance-Form the World into a very Dark Place. There are True Experts who can be trusted and there are Fake Deceitful Experts who Love Money and Power. Always Choose Wisely! Do not be fooled by the Paid For Political Actor "Experts" who spout the "Party Line" specifically as a technique to both recruit and indoctrinate followers into/in the Main Stream Media Cult of Deception. Learn the Art of Finding Truth. Once the Deception is "Seen" it cannot be "Unseen." --------------------------- For there is nothing hidden that will not be disclosed, and nothing concealed that will not be known or brought out into the open.

F6FLT	Re: Dislodge your brain! « Reply #10 on: 2020-11-17, 08:20:40 »
Group: Experimentalist Hero Member Posts: 2072	Quote from: MasterBlaster on 2020-11-15, 13:24:16 I am sharing a link and hope you will be as impressed as I am: This equation will change how you see the world (the logistic map) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovJcsL7vyrk Very interesting. It's really amazing that the same number of about 4.6692 is reached by completely different physical phenomena. I wonder if we could not use some natural effects more basic than the reproduction of rabbits to trigger the bifurcations and variations of a signal and derive energy from it (for example with a non-linear magnetic device influenced by a static field). --------------------------- "Open your mind, but not like a trash bin"

TinMan	Re: Dislodge your brain! « Reply #11 on: 2020-11-19, 13:14:15 »
Group: Elite Experimentalist Hero Member Posts: 4728	Quote from: muDped on 2020-11-16, 00:16:54 Both videos linked in postings above were quite interesting: This equation will change how you see the world (the logistic map) Will America’s disregard for science be the end of its reign? \| Big Think The first video demonstrated that the Universe with its Numerous Laws which define physical behaviors is incredibly complex and that Mathematical Models do indeed have limitations. There are still many, many unknowns. The Water Drip sequence may be quite baffling from a purely Mathematical viewpoint but any Physicist worth his/her salt could easily explain it. Various forces at work. The second video demonstrates that Institutional Science has indeed become a Cult. That unless one believes what Institutional Science has declared to be "Truth" and eschews all that Institutional Science has declared to be "unscientific" then one will be of questionable sanity. Any who doubt their "Science" or their integrity, motives and agenda is deemed a Heretic to be shunned and marginalized. Has Climate Change or Global Warming been in reality proved to be due to Human Activities? Or are there in fact "covert" activities ongoing to manipulate Climate to create the Illusion of of Change or Warming? There is hardly the Scientific Consensus that is claimed by the Institutional Spokesmen in the video. When it comes to comprehending the Real Powers who Control this World, those who claim to be "Science Experts" can be incredibly naive. Easily fooled. The message: "We are the Experts. You must believe US!" Bollox. The "Experts" are advocating that one must wear "blinders" in order to avoid exposure to Truth that they deem to be "Fake." Belief in their "Illusion" is mandatory. Same old same old. More Manipulation and Control of their AGENDA to exercise the POWER. In a word: 1984 The efforts to Indoctrinate into Globalism never end... Could it be that their "Egos" are pained by the Great Awakening because more and more of the People are beginning to See Through their Deception? Yes,have encountered these !!experts!! many time's. For example,the mechanical engineer. These guy's would come to site,design and measure up a job,go back to there office,draw it up,and have the part made by the machine shop. It would then turn up on site,where us mechanical fitters would have to chop and modify said component so as it would fit in where it had to,and do the job is was suppose to do. It was very rare that the !!expert!! would get it right. In the last 6 month's i have started my own business (VanTek) I design,supply,and install off grid solar systems,like the 16kw system i did for my employer that i shared here some time back. I mostly do off grid systems for caravan's (i think you Americans call them trailers ?). Since then,i have been carrying out a lot of testing on solar panels of many different type's. What i found in my testing is that solar panels actually cool down when coupled to a load,by as much as 4 deg C. I have not heard the experts tell us this --> A device that can cool down when it has a current flowing through it . For example--we place a solar panel in the sun and wait for it to reach it's maximum temperature. You then place a heavy load across that solar panel,and it will cool by up to 4 degrease C. This is using a heat gun pointed at the back of the panel at the same point,from the same distance. Interesting stuff Anyway,enough from me. Enjoy guy's. Brad --------------------------- Never let your schooling get in the way of your education.

Allcanadian	Re: Dislodge your brain! « Reply #12 on: 2020-11-19, 17:08:03 »
Group: Moderator Hero Member Posts: 2735	Tinman Quote Yes,have encountered these !!experts!! many time's. For example,the mechanical engineer. These guy's would come to site,design and measure up a job,go back to there office,draw it up,and have the part made by the machine shop. It would then turn up on site,where us mechanical fitters would have to chop and modify said component so as it would fit in where it had to,and do the job is was suppose to do. It was very rare that the !!expert!! would get it right. I have had similar experiences in some fields however it's absurd to paint everyone with the same brush. Are you and mudped going to design and operate our automated power stations, factories and process plants?. Design and manufacture our rockets, electric cars, aircraft , robotics, computers or develop a new Covid vaccine like the real expert scientists just did?. No, that's a job for the real experts who do real stuff that matters. Elon Musk and Tesla/Tesla solar/giga factory/space X is a good example of what real experts look like. Not whining about how hard done by they are or how everything is fake and there a victim but actually doing something real that matters. I can see why many of these populist types are so critical of people that are intelligent and successful. These people are doing what most can only dream of and there changing the world for the better as we speak. So while there are a few who call themselves experts but aren't there are millions upon millions of people who are real experts who are changing our lives for the better every day. We need to be more like them in my opinion. Regards « Last Edit: 2020-11-19, 20:32:24 by Allcanadian » --------------------------- Comprehend and Copy Nature... Viktor Schauberger “The first principle is that you must not fool yourself and you are the easiest person to fool.”― Richard P. Feynman

Itsu	Re: Dislodge your brain! « Reply #13 on: 2020-11-21, 15:21:34 »
Group: Elite Experimentalist Hero Member Posts: 4159	Quote from: TinMan on 2020-11-19, 13:14:15 Yes,have encountered these !!experts!! many time's. For example,the mechanical engineer. These guy's would come to site,design and measure up a job,go back to there office,draw it up,and have the part made by the machine shop. It would then turn up on site,where us mechanical fitters would have to chop and modify said component so as it would fit in where it had to,and do the job is was suppose to do. It was very rare that the !!expert!! would get it right. In the last 6 month's i have started my own business (VanTek) I design,supply,and install off grid solar systems,like the 16kw system i did for my employer that i shared here some time back. I mostly do off grid systems for caravan's (i think you Americans call them trailers ?). Since then,i have been carrying out a lot of testing on solar panels of many different type's. What i found in my testing is that solar panels actually cool down when coupled to a load,by as much as 4 deg C. I have not heard the experts tell us this --> A device that can cool down when it has a current flowing through it . For example--we place a solar panel in the sun and wait for it to reach it's maximum temperature. You then place a heavy load across that solar panel,and it will cool by up to 4 degrease C. This is using a heat gun pointed at the back of the panel at the same point,from the same distance. Interesting stuff Anyway,enough from me. Enjoy guy's. Brad Hi Brad, good to hear you started your own business (VanTek). That "design, supply, and install off grid solar systems" is just perfect for you me thinks What amazed me is that you found in your testing that solar panels actually cool down when coupled to a load, by as much as 4 deg C. My experience is that my now 8 year old panels are heating up when supplying power so that my 6KW system on a hot sunny day only produces 4KW, so 30% less due to heating up and lowering its efficiency. We discussed that here: https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=2420.msg39301#msg39301 Quote One pitfall discovered up till now is that during operation on a hot day >25°C the panels get so hot (up till 70°C) that the efficiency drops with almost a third, so it won't deliver more then about 4.3Kw on a hot sunny day compared to peaking 6.2Kw on a cooler cloudy day (when the clouds move away that is). and here: https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=3549.msg65251#msg65251 The website mentioned a few posts lower shows why that is: https://understandsolar.com/solar-panel-cooling/ Quote What Makes Solar Panels Experience This? Well, without diving into quantum mechanics, which appears to be a requisite for full understanding (see: temperature dependence of resistivity), suffice to say that the conductive material in solar panels becomes less so as it heats up. From our perspective this makes intuitive sense, and the first (very poor analogy) that we thought of was: how well is water going to flow from A to B if it’s boiling? Not as well! (If you’re technically inclined feel free to unload about this in the comments). Some newer thin film technologies can reduce this issue as they commonly enjoy a lower temperature coefficient than traditional silicon methods. So is it so that the nowadays panels do not have that drawback anymore and instead cooling down under load? If so, it then could be time for me to change over to present day panels / converter. Good luck regards Itsu

muDped	Re: Dislodge your brain! « Reply #14 on: 2020-11-21, 21:49:44 »
Group: Tinkerer Hero Member Posts: 3055	Quote from: AC For the record no real expert has claimed anyone must believe them as you falsely claimed. I would agree. Those are not Real Experts. They are Political Actors who have been proclaimed to be "Experts" by the Mass Media. They have been enabled to infiltrate and corrupt Real Science. Their Deception is rampant. Covid-19 and the Great Reset reveal their nefarious natures. --------------------------- For there is nothing hidden that will not be disclosed, and nothing concealed that will not be known or brought out into the open.

Allcanadian	Re: Dislodge your brain! « Reply #15 on: 2020-11-21, 23:16:23 »
Group: Moderator Hero Member Posts: 2735	mudped Quote I would agree. Those are not Real Experts. They are Political Actors who have been proclaimed to be "Experts" by the Mass Media. They have been enabled to infiltrate and corrupt Real Science. It's easy to spot a real expert, a real expert say's the data and facts they have in hand we can see for ourselves point to a reasonable conclusion we can also see for ourselves. However a fake expert say's you should believe them despite the fact they have no facts and can't prove anything. Pretty obvious...it's about science and facts. Here's an interesting question, if you really were so concerned about a Covid hoax you could drive to the nearest hospital and talk to all the medical professionals and those infected with Covid and prove the matter for yourself. Yet you spend hours and hours posting about a nonsensical Covid hoax with no proof ... so what's your problem?. Hell maybe we could all chip in for the cab ride, you could take some video's and report back to us. I'm sure your all in because as you say we all want to know the truth. Regards --------------------------- Comprehend and Copy Nature... Viktor Schauberger “The first principle is that you must not fool yourself and you are the easiest person to fool.”― Richard P. Feynman

muDped	Re: Dislodge your brain! « Reply #16 on: 2020-11-22, 03:03:22 »
Group: Tinkerer Hero Member Posts: 3055	AC, At my location in Very Southern California near the Border with Mexico the Hospitals are virtually empty. Neither I nor any of my neighbors know anyone who has suffered Covid. I am slightly more than a mile from a very large Medical Complex and Hospital. Fortunately, in this location, there are many, many of Mexican Descent who are much more widely awakened to what is going on than most Americans. It is a massive Hoax. Of course I wonder how things are in Canada. Do you know of anyone who has contracted Covid? I am certain that you are able to see for yourself. Canada has fallen. --------------------------- For there is nothing hidden that will not be disclosed, and nothing concealed that will not be known or brought out into the open.

Allcanadian	Re: Dislodge your brain! « Reply #17 on: 2020-11-23, 01:44:51 »
Group: Moderator Hero Member Posts: 2735	mudped Many truths will be coming out very soon. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KS7pnPlQLcY I mean, when people find out all this anti-science, anti-fact conspiracy nonsense was little more than a plot to overthrow democracy and create a dictator church state there's going to be hell to pay. So don't think people don't know exactly what your trying to do here with all these fake conspiracy theories. You need to stop with your religious rhetoric, it has no place here. Regards --------------------------- Comprehend and Copy Nature... Viktor Schauberger “The first principle is that you must not fool yourself and you are the easiest person to fool.”― Richard P. Feynman

ronee	Re: Dislodge your brain! « Reply #18 on: 2020-11-23, 03:57:56 »
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Allcanadian	Re: Dislodge your brain! « Reply #19 on: 2020-11-23, 05:29:11 »
Group: Moderator Hero Member Posts: 2735	I deal in facts not hearsay, deal with it. --------------------------- Comprehend and Copy Nature... Viktor Schauberger “The first principle is that you must not fool yourself and you are the easiest person to fool.”― Richard P. Feynman

Allcanadian	Re: Dislodge your brain! « Reply #20 on: 2020-11-23, 05:47:21 »
Group: Moderator Hero Member Posts: 2735	I will also say this, complaints were made against me for being critical of others beliefs. So consider this a formal complaint against those peddling conspiracy theories critical of my beliefs. It is insulting to my beliefs. If you will not cease then you have no right to say anything when others are critical of your beliefs...do you understand?. --------------------------- Comprehend and Copy Nature... Viktor Schauberger “The first principle is that you must not fool yourself and you are the easiest person to fool.”― Richard P. Feynman

evolvingape	Re: Dislodge your brain! « Reply #21 on: 2020-11-23, 07:08:54 »
Group: Professor Hero Member Posts: 2502 Everyman decries immorality	The Covid19 virus is real. I know, I contracted it just under a year ago. My family did also. My work colleagues also contracted it. Some suffered greatly, some brushed it off with a sore throat for a few days and a longer period of fatigue. It was widespread where I live. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. What you are told by 'news' sources is not necessarily accurate and may serve an agenda. Update: https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/pandemic-over-former-pfizer-chief-science-officer-says-second-wave-faked-false-positive Summary: The 'Pandemic' is over. « Last Edit: 2020-11-23, 07:51:07 by evolvingape » --------------------------- Everyman Standing Order 01: In the Face of Tyranny; Everybody Stands, Nobody Runs. Everyman Standing Order 02: Everyman is Responsible for Energy and Security. Everyman Standing Order 03: Everyman knows Timing is Critical in any Movement.

Paul-R	Re: Dislodge your brain! « Reply #22 on: 2020-11-23, 12:09:39 »
Hero Member Posts: 1579	Quote from: evolvingape on 2020-11-23, 07:08:54 What you are told by 'news' sources is not necessarily accurate and may serve an agenda. Summary: The 'Pandemic' is over. Is Worldometers Fake news? If so, you could try coffin counting. What wil this curve look like when the President-Elect takes over? ------------------------ Dislodge your brain! Screenshot_2020-11-23 United States Coronavirus 12,590,220 Cases and 262,711 Deaths - Worldometer.png (14.08 kB, 681x400 - viewed 302 times.)

Allcanadian	Re: Dislodge your brain! « Reply #23 on: 2020-11-23, 14:36:30 »
Group: Moderator Hero Member Posts: 2735	Paul-R This fake news attacking science and facts is everywhere and seems to be coming from far right religious fanatics. So far as I can tell they want to create a church state prior to a supposed end time. In many respects they want to end mankind as we know it and want the pandemic and everything else to get out of control. So I will give them fair warning, if they want to attack our beliefs in science then it's open season on there beliefs. I think everyone has had quite enough of there nonsense and this needs to end. « Last Edit: 2020-11-23, 15:44:29 by Allcanadian » --------------------------- Comprehend and Copy Nature... Viktor Schauberger “The first principle is that you must not fool yourself and you are the easiest person to fool.”― Richard P. Feynman

evolvingape	Re: Dislodge your brain! « Reply #24 on: 2020-11-23, 15:25:31 »
Group: Professor Hero Member Posts: 2502 Everyman decries immorality	What they DON'T tell you about Covid: Fewer beds taken up than last year, deaths a fraction of the grim forecasts, 95% of fatalities had underlying causes... and how the facts can be twisted to strike fear in our hearts https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8971669/What-DONT-tell-Covid-facts-twisted-strike-fear-hearts.html Department of Health in climbdown after online swipe at The Mail's analysis of Covid-19 facts and figures https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8976195/Department-Health-climbdown-online-swipe-analysis-Covid-19-facts-figures.html Factor in all the people that have had the virus and recovered without ever visiting a hospital or being tested and the fatality rate drops to the level of flu, or lower! Factor in the unreliability of the PCR test (did you even read the link?) and you have dodgy statistics! It's a new virus, your immune system has never dealt with it before therefore until you get it you won't know how you will react. All of this information is readily available if you do some research and quite simple to understand... I am starting to think I am being trolled. --------------------------- Everyman Standing Order 01: In the Face of Tyranny; Everybody Stands, Nobody Runs. Everyman Standing Order 02: Everyman is Responsible for Energy and Security. Everyman Standing Order 03: Everyman knows Timing is Critical in any Movement.

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