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I didn't think you would resort to emojis but there it is... I can't un-see it.

The "emojis" simply add a smidgeon of "hyperbole" to an otherwise undramatic opinion.

But of course, how can something in plain view be "unseen?" :D

AC, surely you are capable of a more competent "argument" than that!

But, please pray tell, what is it that you're Really Afraid Of?

Cut to the chase!

Speak plainly!

Get to the Point!

Can it be that you are Afraid Of Truth? :o

Afraid of Truth that exposes your Bias? C.C

See, "emojis" help to accentuate a nuance. 8)

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IN THE NAME OF ALL THAT IS HOLY, PUT UP OR SHUT UP.

Bit it really is obvious!  If you are able to just Open Your Eyes and Your Mind.

Cult Indoctrination is very difficult to overcome.  It goes deep into the psyche.

One in many cases must learn how to Open Their Eyes.  To Remove the Indoctrination Blinders.

It shall happen whether you make the attempt or not...

Isn't this what you are effectively saying Paul?

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I have been indoctrinated to believe only what I am told by those who control me.

I have been indoctrinated to not believe my own thoughts and what I see with my own eyes.

I cannot believe what you are suggesting until it is said by those who control me.

Until that time I cannot begin to believe anything you write.

I am not in control of my own mind.
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All my posts are legit, based on obvious proofs!

An oxymoron, or a close relation.

Show your workings.

   
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Bit it really is obvious!  If you are able to just Open Your Eyes and Your Mind.


If you have proof, deliver it. Otherwise we'll conclude you don't have any.

   
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If you have proof, deliver it. Otherwise we'll conclude you don't have any.

This is called "Taking the Easy Out." ;D

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We have, repeatedly...

Every link you have offered boils down to someone or other spouting their beliefs.

You don't know what "Proof" means. For people who purport to be scientists, and working with FE, this is absurd but also dangerous.

 
   
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I am sharing a link and hope you will be as impressed as I am:

This equation will change how you see the world (the logistic map) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovJcsL7vyrk

MasterBlaster doesn’t often start topics ...and this topic is quite fascinating
And honestly it was getting some traction !!!

Until ??

Peter has written his thoughts on what has happened here to this topic !( drowning in off forum theme as well as thread topic disregard?
   
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MasterBlaster doesn’t often start topics ...and this topic is quite fascinating
And honestly it was getting some traction !!!

Until ??

Peter has written his thoughts on what has happened here to this topic !( drowning in off forum theme as well as thread topic disregard?

Sorry Chet, I have removed my posts

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Every link you have offered boils down to someone or other spouting their beliefs.
You don't know what "Proof" means. For people who purport to be scientists, and working with FE, this is absurd but also dangerous.

There lies the rub doesn't it?, as if to say I'm an intelligent person who believes in science and proof but I also believe "this nonsense" which directly contradicts everything I just claimed. I get it, we all have different opinions however this isn't about opinions it's about facts. So I would simply say this, if I start making any nonsensical claims with no justification or proof I would expect to be criticized. I mean who in the hell would I think I am to peddle nonsense, expect others to believe it without credible proof, then claim to be a victim if they call me on my nonsense?.

So really, what were trying to say is that we all have to play by the same rules and nobody gets a free pass without justification and proof.

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When it comes to Human Activities in the various Arenas of Human Interaction involving
Agendas, Psychological Operations and Information Manipulation there is so much of the
plotting and the planning which is done in "darkness" that the "proofs" many seek are not
readily accessible.

We are in such cases temporarily limited to examining Characteristics, Fruitage and Trends
to acquire some understanding of what is coming down.

In other words, we are required to "think" and to "evaluate" and to rely on "gut" to make
sense out of what appears to be chaos.

Not everyone is able to do that.  Not everyone has had exposure to the inner workings of the
institutions which exercise control.

There are no pre-conditions attached to any of the Truths presented here.  No one is obliged to
even consider them if they choose not;  no pressure to believe;  skepticism is in fact encouraged.

Just be aware.  Watch carefully all that is taking place at high levels.  Make your own determinations.

The hidden Evils are now being incrementally revealed such that in due time ALL will be able to SEE.

We are living in the Age of Deception where Evil has acquired much Power.

We are all effectively "learning" the ugly details of how this World had been working for Centuries to
the detriment of all humankind.  How the Elites have risen to power.  The horrific things that they do
in private and hidden circumstances to cement their Power and Control.

The Ugliness will be a severe shock to the Many once it is all exposed.


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... that the "proofs" many seek are not readily accessible.


Then have the decency to admit it at the time.

Admit that your "facts" aren't facts at all. Let's face it, half the stuff you put out are statements that are not knowable. (It's reminiscent of that ridiculous TV series, "The Crown").
   
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Admit that your "facts" aren't facts at all. Let's face it, half the stuff you put out are statements that are not knowable.

Mudped's posts seem pretty obvious which is to push religious rhetoric under the guise of conspiracies.

They do it by gaslighting and casting doubt on everything we know and portraying it as a deception leaving only their beliefs as the solution. As if to say think what you want however I'm going to spam you with my false beliefs day and night until you believe me.

I have determined the key factors to be geography and age. That is as they get closer to the end of their life the more they feel compelled to force there beliefs on others as a way to reinforce their beliefs. To hedge their bets if you will, thus the more they try to convince others the more they convince themselves as a form of self-reinforcing denial. So it's important to keep an eye on our mental health as we get older, checks and balances if you will.

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Then have the decency to admit it at the time.

Admit that your "facts" aren't facts at all. Let's face it, half the stuff you put out are statements that are not knowable. (It's reminiscent of that ridiculous TV series, "The Crown").

I never claim that anything I post is a "fact."

I post links to articles which may be perused by any who desire.

Whether or not an article is "factual" is up to the reader to decide for themselves.

Enhancing Situational Awareness is the goal.  It is up to you to decide what to "believe."

Our beliefs are principally based upon our Observations of Events and Activities.

How we process our Observations of Events can be influenced by Mass Media.

We are living in the Age of Deception where we are exposed to numerous untruths daily.

Knowledge is Key.

Only we are able to determine for ourselves what we choose to make our Truth.

The Proof is a function of Time.

Evil is at work and it is being exposed.

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Mudped's posts seem pretty obvious which is to push religious rhetoric under the guise of conspiracies.

My Opinions are Reality Based.

There are many Religions.  Some good, some bad.  I do not claim any "Religion."

Specificity would be helpful.

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That is as they get closer to the end of their life the more they feel compelled to force there beliefs on others as a way to reinforce their beliefs.

There are no pre-conditions attached to any of my postings.

No force is applied.  None are obliged to believe as I do.  Freedom is a wonderful thing.

Opinions are like seeds.  Whether they grow is dependent upon Critical Thinking.

We are all free to choose.

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As if to say think what you want however I'm going to spam you with my false beliefs day and night until you believe me.

Very interesting perception AC.  Quite telling.

Spam?

False beliefs?

You've let your Bias out of the Bag AC!

AC, I care naught about what your present beliefs are because I know that in due time you will adjust your
beliefs into alignment with the Time Revealed Proofs and Truth.

Enhancing Situational Awareness.  That is all there really is to it.
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I never claim that anything I post is a "fact."


An hour and a half ago, on the Coronavirus thread, mudped, you say:

"Boris Johnson Unleashes The British Police Force Against His Own People"

It is profoundly stupid but nonetheless this is presented by you as a fact. (What he did was to use the Police to restrain a demo which was out of control, causing damage and in violation of Covid distancing regs. The author refers to "his [Boris'] totalitarian left wing woke police force", showing that he doesn't seem to know what left wing, totalitarian or woke mean. The link with full unexpurgated lunacy: https://theduran.com/boris-johnson-unleashes-the-british-police-force-against-his-own-people-as-he-crucifies-an-entire-nation-on-the-cross-of-the-nhs/ ).

But of course, you see Covid as "Fake News", along with the 144,000 new cases and the 1,000 odd deaths booked yesterday in the US.

You're either a fool or a liar, mudped.
   

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An hour and a half ago, on the Coronavirus thread, mudped, you say:

"Boris Johnson Unleashes The British Police Force Against His Own People"

That is simply the Title of the Article.

Whether the Events described in the Article are True or Not is up to you to decide.

Reporters report.  You decide.

You may consider it Lunacy if you wish.  That is your choice.

Time will, as always, Tell.

Your strong emotional response is itself quite telling though.

Why not "Dislodge Your Brain?"  Study all of the Evidence?

Too much Bias?

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You're either a fool or a liar, mudped.

You, of course, have the freedom to form such an opinion.

And I defend such freedoms.  I am not offended in any way.

But, as is always the case, Time Will Tell.

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An hour and a half ago, on the Coronavirus thread, mudped, you say:

"Boris Johnson Unleashes The British Police Force Against His Own People"

That is simply the Title of the Article.


You reproduced it as a statement of fact.

You bear a responsibility for what you link to.
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You reproduced it as a statement of fact.

You bear a responsibility for what you link to.

Boris Johnson Unleashes The British Police Force Against His Own People  Is a "Hyperlink" to the Article.

That the article exists is a "fact."

That you are able to follow the link is also a "fact."

Whatever you deduce beyond that is the result of your own "processing."

You are free to arrive at whatever opinion you please.

Do you find the Article to be Hyperbolic or Untrue?


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Boris Johnson Unleashes The British Police Force Against His Own People  Is a "Hyperlink" to the Article.

That the article exists is a "fact."



Of course the article's existance is a fact. The question is: Is it true? Why did you link to it?

Like all religious and other bigots, you can convince yourself of anything. You live in a self created world of delusion.

   
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https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2020/11/201103075526.htm

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Organic solar cells are cheaper to produce and more flexible than their counterparts made of crystalline silicon, but do not offer the same level of efficiency or stability. A group of researchers led by Prof. Christoph Brabec, Director of the Institute of Materials for Electronics and Energy Technology (i-MEET) at the Chair of Materials Science and Engineering at Friedrich-Alexander-Universität Erlangen-Nürnberg (FAU), have been working on improving these properties for several years. During his doctoral thesis, Andrej Classen, who is a young researcher at FAU, demonstrated that efficiency can be increased using luminescent acceptor molecules. His work has now been published in the journal Nature Energy.

The sun can supply radiation energy of around 1000 watts per square metre on a clear day at European latitudes. Conventional monocrystalline silicon solar cells convert up to a fifth of this energy into electricity, which means they have an efficiency of around 20 percent. Prof. Brabec's working group has held the world record for efficiency in an organic photovoltaic module of 12.6% since September 2019. The multi-cell module developed at Energie Campus Nürnberg (EnCN) has a surface area of 26 cm². 'If we can achieve over 20% in the laboratory, we could possibly achieve 15% in practice and become real competition for silicon solar cells,' says Prof. Brabec.

Flexible application and high energy efficiency during manufacturing

The advantages of organic solar cells are obvious -- they are thin and flexible like foil and can be adapted to fit various substrates. The wavelength at which the sunlight is absorbed can be 'adjusted' via the macromodules used. An office window coated with organic solar cells that absorbs the red and infrared spectrum would not only screen out thermal radiation, but also generate electricity at the same time. One criterion that is becoming increasingly important in view of climate change is the operation period after which a solar cell generates more energy than was required to manufacture it. This so-called energy payback time is heavily dependent on the technology used and the location of the photovoltaic (PV) system. According to the latest calculations of the Fraunhofer Institute for Solar Energy Systems (ISE), the energy payback time of PV modules made of silicon in Switzerland is around 2.5 to 2.8 years. However, this time is reduced to only a few months for organic solar cells according to Dr. Thomas Heumüller, research associate at Prof. Brabec's Chair.



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Of course the article's existance is a fact. The question is: Is it true? Why did you link to it?
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In formal logic, facts are "true" by definition (otherwise they are no longer facts).
But there are the facts, and there is the interpretation of the facts.
If one says "Boris Johnson Unleashes The British Police Force Against His Own People", there is indeed an underlying fact but it is interpreted, the presentation of it is not neutral. With a different interpretation, one could say: "Boris Johnson Unleashes The British Police Force To Protect His Own People".
It is almost impossible to present a fact completely objectively, and in politics it can even be said that this is never the case.

For example here, protecting people by enforcing health regulations by the police force is the opposite of protecting people to guarantee their freedoms, such as the freedom to go where they want: "Everyone has the right to freedom of movement and residence within the borders of each state", article 13 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, adopted in 1948 by the United Nations, including the UK. Clearly today this is no longer the case, 100% of the population is deprived of freedom to try to save the 1% of potentially fatal cases, 80% of which are elderly or weak. One can agree or disagree with this, but it is an arbitrary choice, no more "religious" for some than for others. And according to this choice, the facts are interpreted in one way or another, Boris Johnson can be seen acting for or against his people.
 
I who believed that here in France we were the worst country in terms of deprivation of liberties because of COVID (even mushroom pickers, alone in the forest, or young surfers in the waves, are verbalised!), I can see that we are closely followed !   :(


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100% of the population is deprived of freedom to try to save the 1% of potentially fatal cases,

Interesting stuff, F6. But the above quotation is a fallacy.

The deprivation of freedom is to stop the health system melting down, resulting in massive and overwhelming tragedy.

For a number of weeks in New York, and certainly for a period of time in March in the UK, there was a possibility of disintegration. If that had happened, we would have seen Accident and Emergency in ruins, the ambulance system gone and thousands of medical staff abandonning their posts with physical and mental breakdowns. Neither on the East coast nor in the UK was that scenario that far off.

If you look at the hospitalisation curves, you can see why authorities think we could be about to face this possibility again.

   
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This viewpoint is the one the authorities provide. I know it, Paul. It is a question of spreading the epidemic over time in order to avoid hospital overcrowding.

But what I have written above is not a fallacy, because about 1% of deaths among the infected people is what we can expect in the end on average, containment or not. And above all, there are other criteria to take into account than the virus.
For example, how many people will be made precarious by the economic consequences of these measures? How many will have psychological after-effects? How much time in the lives of young people is going to be sacrificed, when they risk practically nothing?

In other words, the measures are taken as if there was only one criterion, the number of deaths and the impossibility of treating the patients, as if there were no alternative, and as if any means had to be accepted for this purpose.

The impossibility to treat is partly due to the negligence of politicians: hospitals were already overloaded, at least in France, before the epidemic began, so obviously the slightest surplus of patients is a catastrophe.
There are alternatives, such as setting up country hospitals, for example in municipal wards, with respiratory equipment and requisitioning general practitioners.
Finally, even if there were no alternatives, the idea that the end justifies any means is completely questionable. Why not also prevent everyone from having access to public places, under the pretext that public places are the places where terrorist acts are perpetrated?

Positions regarding the management of the epidemic, although politicians try to present them to us as rational and the best, are filled with arbitrary and questionable implicit criteria.

Rather, I have the impression that the rulers of each country hope that, at the end of the epidemic, they will not have to present a death toll that is worse than the others. Taking risks with original solutions is out of the question for them. Containment imposed almost everywhere is imposed not because it is the best solution, but because it is a conventional easy position that they can all align with. Aligning with each other is their method. And also, exercising power over the citizen is what motivates a politician, it's combining business with pleasure.  :)

My opinion is that individual liberty should not be prohibited for any pretext, and certainly not in the name of an epidemic that only causes 1% of deaths among those infected, many of whom are already at the end of their lives. It is up to each individual to limit his or her risks by his or her own choices, and up to the politicians to inform them and to size up the healthcare system.



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An hour and a half ago, on the Coronavirus thread, mudped, you say:

"Boris Johnson Unleashes The British Police Force Against His Own People"

It is profoundly stupid but nonetheless this is presented by you as a fact. (What he did was to use the Police to restrain a demo which was out of control, causing damage and in violation of Covid distancing regs. The author refers to "his [Boris'] totalitarian left wing woke police force", showing that he doesn't seem to know what left wing, totalitarian or woke mean. The link with full unexpurgated lunacy: https://theduran.com/boris-johnson-unleashes-the-british-police-force-against-his-own-people-as-he-crucifies-an-entire-nation-on-the-cross-of-the-nhs/ ).

But of course, you see Covid as "Fake News", along with the 144,000 new cases and the 1,000 odd deaths booked yesterday in the US.

You're either a fool or a liar, mudped.

Paul
You seem to like fact's,but you continue to provide number's that do not represent fact's.

As i stated before,there is a very big difference between those that died with covid,from those that die from covid.

The fact is,very few people would die from covid alone.
Another fact is,most who have died with covid had other underlying health issue's.

Can you get the numbers for those that died from covid 19 alone,without having any other health issue's ?.
If you are going to deal in facts,then this is a number you must find.

Here is how the powers that be wish you to see thing's.
Let's look at it this way--
A person has covid,but otherwise healthy.
This person then catches the flu ,and as a result this person die's due to having both.
Now,will he be recorded as having died from the flu,or will he be recorded as having died from covid 19.
We both know the answer to that-->the covid death count must rise no matter what,and this person will be recorded as another covid death,not as a flu death<--that is a fact.

The covid 19 death count is extremely over inflated,as 90% plus died from having other underlying health issue's.

2,839,205 people die each year in the US from those underlying health issue's-->where is the lockdown for each of them ?.


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Beyond the political/religious posturing on Covid or the notion of letting others die so we can have the freedom to go to the pub or mall I find the psychology mind boggling. It would seem to me large portions of the population have become completely detached from reality. They don't have the capacity to imagine anything beyond there bubble of normalcy. So when "something" happens rather than accept the facts of the situation they come unglued and go into denial.

My concern is that the Covid pandemic is mild by comparison to what we can expect in the future however clearly most of the population cannot handle change. Now imagine a massive asteroid strike or super drought/heat wave or a massive pandemic with a 20% death rate. I just find it strange how so many people could become so infatuated with themselves and society but completely ignore the natural world and reality. Understand the world does not revolve around us, we are immersed in it and in most respects nature dictates what happens and when.

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