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Are you being Gaslighted « on: 2020-09-15, 17:00:23 »
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https://www.psychologytoday.com/ca/blog/here-there-and-everywhere/201701/11-warning-signs-gaslighting

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Gaslighting is a tactic in which a person or entity, in order to gain more power, makes a victim question their reality. It works much better than you may think. Anyone is susceptible to gaslighting, and it is a common technique of abusers, dictators, narcissists, and cult leaders. It is done slowly, so the victim doesn't realize how much they've been brainwashed.

Does this sound familiar...

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1. They tell blatant lies.

You know it's an outright lie. Yet they are telling you this lie with a straight face. Why are they so blatant? Because they're setting up a precedent. Once they tell you a huge lie, you're not sure if anything they say is true. Keeping you unsteady and off-kilter is the goal.

2. They deny they ever said something, even though you have proof.

You know they said they would do something; you know you heard it. But they out and out deny it. It makes you start questioning your reality—maybe they never said that thing. And the more they do this, the more you question your reality and start accepting theirs.

3. They use what is near and dear to you as ammunition.

They know how important your kids are to you, and they know how important your identity is to you. So those may be one of the first things they attack. If you have kids, they tell you that you should not have had those children. They will tell you'd be a worthy person if only you didn't have a long list of negative traits. They attack the foundation of your being.

4. They wear you down over time.

This is one of the insidious things about gaslighting—it is done gradually, over time. A lie here, a lie there, a snide comment every so often...and then it starts ramping up. Even the brightest, most self-aware people can be sucked into gaslighting—it is that effective. It's the "frog in the frying pan" analogy: The heat is turned up slowly, so the frog never realizes what's happening to it.

5. Their actions do not match their words.

When dealing with a person or entity that gaslights, look at what they are doing rather than what they are saying. What they are saying means nothing; it is just talk. What they are doing is the issue.

6. They throw in positive reinforcement to confuse you.

This person or entity that is cutting you down, telling you that you don't have value, is now praising you for something you did. This adds an additional sense of uneasiness. You think, "Well maybe they aren't so bad." Yes, they are. This is a calculated attempt to keep you off-kilter—and again, to question your reality. Also look at what you were praised for; it is probably something that served the gaslighter.

7. They know confusion weakens people.

Gaslighters know that people like having a sense of stability and normalcy. Their goal is to uproot this and make you constantly question everything. And humans' natural tendency is to look to the person or entity that will help you feel more stable—and that happens to be the gaslighter.

8. They project.

They are a drug user or a cheater, yet they are constantly accusing you of that. This is done so often that you start trying to defend yourself, and are distracted from the gaslighter's own behavior.

9. They try to align people against you.

Gaslighters are masters at manipulating and finding the people they know will stand by them no matter what—and they use these people against you. They will make comments such as, "This person knows that you're not right," or "This person knows you're useless too." Keep in mind it does not mean that these people actually said these things. A gaslighter is a constant liar. When the gaslighter uses this tactic it makes you feel like you don't know who to trust or turn to—and that leads you right back to the gaslighter. And that's exactly what they want: Isolation gives them more control.

10. They tell you or others that you are crazy.

This is one of the most effective tools of the gaslighter, because it's dismissive. The gaslighter knows if they question your sanity, people will not believe you when you tell them the gaslighter is abusive or out-of-control. It's a master technique.

11. They tell you everyone else is a liar.

By telling you that everyone else (your family, the media) is a liar, it again makes you question your reality. You've never known someone with the audacity to do this, so they must be telling the truth, right? No. It's a manipulation technique. It makes people turn to the gaslighter for the "correct" information—which isn't correct information at all.

Do you see what's going on?. This is how these populist types operate however once we understand what is actually going on it's 100% predictable and almost comical to watch. Don't fall for there bullshit and the only solution is to remove these people from our lives. Don't give them the oxygen these crave, ignore or remove them.

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Re: Are you being Gaslighted « Reply #1 on: 2020-09-15, 17:25:22 »

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Don't fall for there bullshit and the only solution is to remove these people from
our lives. Don't give them the oxygen these crave, ignore or remove them.

It is from such sentiments that Violence and Destruction arise.  Which explains to a
great extent the actions of the Marxist/Leninist Communist Liberal Left in America.

None of what is happening in our World is spontaneous.  It is all being managed,
engineered and financed by Psychopathic Elites who are in control of approximately
50% of the population.  The "gaslighted" are those who are tearing down and
burning.  The "gaslighted" are those who are the footsoldiers for the revolution
which now threatens America.  It is a repeat of the Bolshevik Revolution of 1917
with a modern twist.  The past tends to repeat itself as the "playbook" is edited
and revised to adapt.  The Traitors have revealed themselves.

It will get worse.  In due time even the doubters will finally realize that they have
indeed been "gaslighted."


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Re: Are you being Gaslighted « Reply #2 on: 2020-09-15, 23:24:42 »
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It is from such sentiments that Violence and Destruction arise.  Which explains to a
great extent the actions of the Marxist/Leninist Communist Liberal Left in America.

1. They tell blatant lies.
You know it's an outright lie. Yet they are telling you this lie with a straight face. Why are they so blatant? Because they're setting up a precedent. Once they tell you a huge lie, you're not sure if anything they say is true. Keeping you unsteady and off-kilter is the goal.

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None of what is happening in our World is spontaneous.  It is all being managed,
engineered and financed by Psychopathic Elites who are in control of approximately
50% of the population.  The "gaslighted" are those who are tearing down and
burning.  The "gaslighted" are those who are the footsoldiers for the revolution
which now threatens America.  It is a repeat of the Bolshevik Revolution of 1917
with a modern twist.  The past tends to repeat itself as the "playbook" is edited
and revised to adapt.  The Traitors have revealed themselves.

7. They know confusion weakens people.
Gaslighters know that people like having a sense of stability and normalcy. Their goal is to uproot this and make you constantly question everything. And humans' natural tendency is to look to the person or entity that will help you feel more stable—and that happens to be the gaslighter. 

8. They project.
They are a drug user or a cheater, yet they are constantly accusing you of that. This is done so often that you start trying to defend yourself, and are distracted from the gaslighter's own behavior.

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It will get worse.  In due time even the doubters will finally realize that they have
indeed been "gaslighted."

11. They tell you everyone else is a liar.
By telling you that everyone else (your family, the media) is a liar, it again makes you question your reality. You've never known someone with the audacity to do this, so they must be telling the truth, right? No. It's a manipulation technique. It makes people turn to the gaslighter for the "correct" information—which isn't correct information at all.


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Re: Are you being Gaslighted « Reply #3 on: 2020-09-16, 07:38:19 »

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Not everyone is lying.

The Fear and Hysteria lies originate at Command and Control.  From there they
are fed to the media for dissemination.  The liars are paid to lie of course, as
they are themselves deceived. ???

The lies, which are repeated endlessly, have been quite effective in controlling the
thinking and the behavior of the gullible masses. :'(

The Mind Control Operation in America has taken several decades to put into place.
It is an odd feeling to see how almost completely the American People have fallen
for the lies and have readily accepted the fear induced Behavior Modifications.
It has in fact occurred just as it was foretold that it would transpire in the Words of
the Prophets.  There really is nothing new under the Sun. >:-)

But the Mass Deception will be only temporary.  In a relatively short time the eyes
of the People will be opened and they at last will be able to see how they have been
deceived and by whom.  That conclusion is a part of the Prophecies as well. :)

That is Good News. ;D

What is going on World-wide is not surprising nor was it unexpected.  Many of us
knew that it would take place at some point in time.  That this is happening now simply
means that the End of this Wickedly Evil Worldly System is approaching.  The process has
been likened to 'birth pangs" because the transition from an Evil World to a Good
World will be painful for all concerned.  Knowing that its time is short, Evil proceeds
to destroy all that it is able to. Evil always makes its exit with great chaos and violence. >:-)

But only for a time. :)

The American Lies have had a profound effect upon Canada too. :o


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Re: Are you being Gaslighted « Reply #4 on: 2020-09-16, 10:01:32 »
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Gas-lighting is what all psychopaths  do .

That article really focused on the victim and missed the cause .

Psychopathy is throughout society and a "condition" would describe it better than an illness.

It comes from our fight or flight instincts which we don't need any more ...untill we do .

Many companies  could not operate well without these hard driving nutters.

It is very common in politics .

If somebody gaslights you its your problem not theirs ,knowing this should help you refrain from murdering them.

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Re: Are you being Gaslighted « Reply #5 on: 2020-09-16, 10:07:42 »
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Quote from: muDped on 2020-09-16, 07:38:19

from post 3 above, mudped writes:

...it would transpire in the Words of the Prophets.

...That conclusion is a part of the Prophecies as well.

...the End of this Wickedly Evil Worldly System is approaching.

...because the transition from an Evil World to a Good World will be painful for all concerned.

...Evil proceeds to destroy all that it is able to.

...Evil always makes its exit with great chaos and violence.


It seems clear to me that mudped is a religious fundamentalist who believes in an impeding apocalypse, the rapture and the end times - and is using this forum to preach his extremist views.
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Re: Are you being Gaslighted « Reply #6 on: 2020-09-16, 16:27:47 »
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It seems clear to me that mudped is a religious fundamentalist who believes in an impeding apocalypse, the rapture and the end times - and is using this forum to preach his extremist views.

muDped,
I really admire your persaverance and gentlemanly manner in your posts. I know that it is difficult to deal with this subject when the most arogantly ignorant are the most vocal.

One, for example, believes Covid was unleashed in the wet market by mother nature to teach us a lesson on our unhygenic ways. While the other thinks that 19 arabs who barely fly a Piper could step into a pilots seat and fly a 767 hundreds of miles and strike a taget building with an aluminum plane that could cut through steel and start a fire so hot as to melt steel with people able to stand in the fire unaffected while the fire was able to simultaneously sever the concrete core and all it's steel columns and all the 240 perimeter columns so the building would fall straight down at free fall speed. unreal!!! (and with half the arabs still alive after and at least one of the planes still flying four years later! That must have been the one that flew straight through the tower)

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Re: Are you being Gaslighted « Reply #7 on: 2020-09-16, 18:28:52 »
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I really admire your persaverance and gentlemanly manner in your posts. I know that it is difficult to deal with this subject when the most arogantly ignorant are the most vocal.

#6. They throw in positive reinforcement to confuse you.
This person or entity that is cutting you down, telling you that you don't have value, is now praising you for something you did. This adds an additional sense of uneasiness. You think, "Well maybe they aren't so bad." Yes, they are. This is a calculated attempt to keep you off-kilter—and again, to question your reality. Also look at what you were praised for; it is probably something that served the gaslighter.

#8. They project.
They are a drug user or a cheater, yet they are constantly accusing you of that. This is done so often that you start trying to defend yourself, and are distracted from the gaslighter's own behavior.

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One, for example, believes Covid was unleashed in the wet market by mother nature to teach us a lesson on our unhygenic ways. While the other thinks that 19 arabs who barely fly a Piper could step into a pilots seat and fly a 767 hundreds of miles and strike a taget building with an aluminum plane that could cut through steel and start a fire so hot as to melt steel with people able to stand in the fire unaffected while the fire was able to simultaneously sever the concrete core and all it's steel columns and all the 240 perimeter columns so the building would fall straight down at free fall speed. unreal!!! (and with half the arabs still alive after and at least one of the planes still flying four years later! That must have been the one that flew straight through the tower)

#7. They know confusion weakens people.
Gaslighters know that people like having a sense of stability and normalcy. Their goal is to uproot this and make you constantly question everything. And humans' natural tendency is to look to the person or entity that will help you feel more stable—and that happens to be the gaslighter. 



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Re: Are you being Gaslighted « Reply #8 on: 2020-09-16, 18:42:09 »
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If somebody gaslights you its your problem not theirs ,knowing this should help you refrain from murdering them.

I think you meant it's there problem not ours and I agree.

I just wanted everyone to understand how gaslighting works and once we know how to recognize it we can avoid it. It's kind of amazing that almost all these populist types use the same gaslighting techniques. There is basically nothing new or unique about it and it's all about repeating the same falsehoods over and over under a similar premise.

It's also neat that the gaslighting becomes almost comical rather than irritating and simply loses all it's effect. It's like... not this shtick again, lol.

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Re: Are you being Gaslighted « Reply #9 on: 2020-09-17, 01:17:53 »
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I think you meant it's there problem not ours and I agree.

I just wanted everyone to understand how gaslighting works and once we know how to recognize it we can avoid it. It's kind of amazing that almost all these populist types use the same gaslighting techniques. There is basically nothing new or unique about it and it's all about repeating the same falsehoods over and over under a similar premise.

It's also neat that the gaslighting becomes almost comical rather than irritating and simply loses all it's effect. It's like... not this shtick again, lol.

Regards

It is your problem

If you study psychopathy a bit you will see the whole problem is our reaction ( want to murder them ) that they thrive on

Gas-lighting is but one of the many aspects of the psychopath.

Psychopaths don't know or care if they are ,which is both a strength and a weakness .

There are also "victims" whom psychopaths seek , who actually want to be led ... what a wonderful world.

Here is an article that is from the psychopath perspective ...they are almost always the people pushers in business

https://blog.o2employmentservices.com/understanding-the-four-personality-types-in-the-workplace

we all need to learn  get along  ...learning is first.

Psychopaths are not all serial killers but all serial killers are psychopaths.

Its a great subject  and we all have things to learn around this .
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Re: Are you being Gaslighted « Reply #10 on: 2020-09-17, 08:50:53 »

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3D Magnetics,

What you've said about Psychopaths, Gaslighting and owning our response is spot on!

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It seems clear to me that mudped is a religious fundamentalist who believes in an impeding
apocalypse, the rapture and the end times - and is using this forum to preach his extremist
views.

I am a believer in The Book of The Word and it seems clear to me that we are in fact experiencing
The Revelation or The Great Awakening or The Apocalypse.  We are seeing that more and more
with each passing day the Evil which controls this Planet is being exposed so that we may know.

I believe "the rapture" as commonly taught is a distortion.

The End Time simply means that we are in the time when Evil has run its course and will be
eliminated.  What is coming beyond that time will be a New Time free of Evil.

I suppose from your point of view and comprehension of the Workings of Our World that
"extremist" seems an appropriate descriptor.

As we move further into the Transition it will become clear who really are the "extremists."

No matter how ugly and difficult the near future should become as the Transition progresses,
none will be lost.  We shall all live again healed of all of our imperfections for a very, very long
time.

Lives without end.  You and all of our Human Family will be there too.

To Ron, thanks. :)


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Re: Are you being Gaslighted « Reply #11 on: 2020-09-19, 08:16:11 »

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Conspiracy is not a Theory

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The problem with trying to explain "conspiracy theories" is most people don't understand that a "conspiracy" is:

An agreement among two or more coconspirators to commit an illegal act through legal means or to commit
a legal act through illegal means.


So why are CONSPIRACY THEORIES demonized by MASS MEDIA (MSM) today?

In 1967 the CIA  simply changed the definition of CONSPIRACY THEORIES to mean any narrative not approved
by the CIA. The CIA Created the Label "Conspiracy Theorists" ... to Attack Anyone Who Challenges
the "Official" Narrative.

The CIA's disinformation campaigns were known as "Operation Mockingbird" where the CIA charged the MSM
to repeat the same story. Washington Post publisher Hugh Graham famously said that a journalist was cheaper
to buy than a whore, "a couple of hundred bucks a month."

It was so effective that Zbigniew Brzezinski said in 1972, "Shortly, the public will be unable to reason or think
for themselves. They'll only be able to parrot the information they've been given on the previous night's news."

I believe we can safely say that recent discussions in this forum prove beyond any doubt that the Operation is
and has been very effective.
 


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Re: Are you being Gaslighted « Reply #12 on: 2020-09-20, 09:20:09 »
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It is your problem
If you study psychopathy a bit you will see the whole problem is our reaction ( want to murder them ) that they thrive on
Gas-lighting is but one of the many aspects of the psychopath.

No, it is not my problem it is our collective problem. Adolf Hitler was just another psychopath gaslighting people and look how that turned out. Would you say Adolf's critics were over reacting?, would you say they over reacted when they were forced into gas chambers and incinerated alive?. Context matters.

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Psychopaths don't know or care if they are ,which is both a strength and a weakness .
There are also "victims" whom psychopaths seek , who actually want to be led ... what a wonderful world.

There may be some who want to be led, but probably not all the women trump groped and tried to rape. That's not leading, that's rape.

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Here is an article that is from the psychopath perspective ...they are almost always the people pushers in business
https://blog.o2employmentservices.com/understanding-the-four-personality-types-in-the-workplace
we all need to learn  get along  ...learning is first.

So if someone like trump fired your ass without just cause and blacklisted you because you were not 100% obedient or loyal to him like he always does would you say we should just get along?. I mean they get off on destroying people but you would want to just get along?. The first problem is that your displaying compliance and weakness which they feed on, second they are dependent on suckers just wanting to get along. They will always gaslight everyone around them because people just want to get along however it falsely assumes we need to tolerate there self serving bs which we do not.

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Psychopaths are not all serial killers but all serial killers are psychopaths.
Its a great subject and we all have things to learn around this .

Psychopaths are not all serial killers but all serial killers are psychopaths, however Adolf Hitler who wanted to exterminate an entire race for profit was not a serial killer but just a psychotic politician like donny trump. It is a great subject which highlights the dangers of complacency and as you infer a weakness of character of those who tolerate psychotic behavior.

In a better world donny trumps father would have went to prison for his crimes rather than being rewarded just like donny. In which case donny would not have learned to become a psychopath like his father, would not have had a string of broken marriages and raped innocent women, not screwed over every business partner he had and may have had a chance at a happy healthy life. So no, just getting along and letting all this psychotic, degenerate behavior grow is not the way any more than letting a disease or pandemic grow is the way.

Are you a Christian?, because the bible basically spells all this stuff out in easy to understand terms. Don't lie, don't cheat, grope your neighbors wife like donny trump, don't let the bs your psychotic neighbor or friend is preaching slide because it always grows and comes full circle. Hell, I'm an Atheist but apparently I know more about the bible than 99% of theists because I don't just preach it at least I try to follow in practice. 

Unlike jerry falwell jr, you know Mr. Threesome, who apparently was shagging his wife's assistant and god knows who else. Jackass Jerry said trump should get two more years in office which is illegal and violates the constitution because the senate broke the law and gave trump a pass on what was proven to be collusion with the Russians. So trump should get two extra years because the senate broke there oath of office and refused to do there god damn job, lol. I mean I couldn't even begin to make this kind of deranged shit up but apparently jerry in a man of god?, what a complete and utter shit show.

So no as a Canadian I'm just not all that tolerant of all this degenerate, immoral and psychotic behavior... so no I will not just get along, it's bs.

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Re: Are you being Gaslighted « Reply #13 on: 2020-09-21, 00:36:13 »
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No, it is not my problem it is our collective problem. Adolf Hitler was just another psychopath gaslighting people and look how that turned out. Would you say Adolf's critics were over reacting?, would you say they over reacted when they were forced into gas chambers and incinerated alive?. Context matters.

There may be some who want to be led, but probably not all the women trump groped and tried to rape. That's not leading, that's rape.

So if someone like trump fired your ass without just cause and blacklisted you because you were not 100% obedient or loyal to him like he always does would you say we should just get along?. I mean they get off on destroying people but you would want to just get along?. The first problem is that your displaying compliance and weakness which they feed on, second they are dependent on suckers just wanting to get along. They will always gaslight everyone around them because people just want to get along however it falsely assumes we need to tolerate there self serving bs which we do not.

Psychopaths are not all serial killers but all serial killers are psychopaths, however Adolf Hitler who wanted to exterminate an entire race for profit was not a serial killer but just a psychotic politician like donny trump. It is a great subject which highlights the dangers of complacency and as you infer a weakness of character of those who tolerate psychotic behavior.

In a better world donny trumps father would have went to prison for his crimes rather than being rewarded just like donny. In which case donny would not have learned to become a psychopath like his father, would not have had a string of broken marriages and raped innocent women, not screwed over every business partner he had and may have had a chance at a happy healthy life. So no, just getting along and letting all this psychotic, degenerate behavior grow is not the way any more than letting a disease or pandemic grow is the way.

Are you a Christian?, because the bible basically spells all this stuff out in easy to understand terms. Don't lie, don't cheat, grope your neighbors wife like donny trump, don't let the bs your psychotic neighbor or friend is preaching slide because it always grows and comes full circle. Hell, I'm an Atheist but apparently I know more about the bible than 99% of theists because I don't just preach it at least I try to follow in practice. 

Unlike jerry falwell jr, you know Mr. Threesome, who apparently was shagging his wife's assistant and god knows who else. Jackass Jerry said trump should get two more years in office which is illegal and violates the constitution because the senate broke the law and gave trump a pass on what was proven to be collusion with the Russians. So trump should get two extra years because the senate broke there oath of office and refused to do there god damn job, lol. I mean I couldn't even begin to make this kind of deranged shit up but apparently jerry in a man of god?, what a complete and utter shit show.

So no as a Canadian I'm just not all that tolerant of all this degenerate, immoral and psychotic behavior... so no I will not just get along, it's bs.

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Re: Are you being Gaslighted « Reply #14 on: 2020-09-21, 14:50:28 »
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WOW!
If I did not know better through experience and age , right now I would be questioning my own beliefs .

You nailed it, you should be questioning why you think you need to defend self serving psychopaths. I won't defend them, there psychopaths and can't be trusted. It's that simple.

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