Wow Brad, you must have been working on that all day. So much for leaving this thread and for short posts. I'm glad that you did clarify some things here. Why has it taken so long for you guys to answer basic questions as to how things work here. You should take more time to share all these things with newcomers. If this forum had actually done that and not been so hostile so much time wouldn't have been wasted. Granted that you set up a private thread for me to share things. But out here on a main thread you guys just went off as if there were no rules and anything goes.
Well I'll reply in the quotes below within brackets:
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All I have done is freely shared free energy information for 15 years now.
Then how about sharing some with us,as this is the very reason you were invited here to !!!OverUnityResearch!!!
[Rick replies: I have already. But just as you members were discussing other side points, so I responded to them. You are just as much to blame for going onto other topics. You are still mistaken about proof over the Internet as can be seen in this long post. So that is essential to get cleared up. Because how can I even know what that even means?]
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I have demonstrated it publicly many times.
Then why is it a major issue to demonstrate it here on !!!OverUnityResearch!!! ?
[Rick replies: Because OUR is not a place you can demonstrate anything. It is not the real world Brad. Are you so lost in cyberland that you don't realize that it is not the real world???]
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I have put up videos like the Tinmman has himself.
Your video's are nothing like mine-->your's are longer than a feature length movie.
[Rick replies: You get the point. Showing stuff.]
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I'm not demanding that Tinmman prove all his claims in his videos.
What claim's ?.
Not one of my video's claime's free energy,unless it is the production of energy at no cost--such as solar.
Now,if i was to claim to have,and claim to be presenting an OU device in my video's,then you can bet your bottom dollar i would be asked by everyone here to back up my claim's.
[Rick replies: You have done some interesting videos. My friend has saved them all and says you have removed some more significant revelations. I haven't watched in a long time, except I wasted my time on one of the latest that said magnet motor but was just some plastic gears.]
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But if I am required to prove something, explain just how I can do that over the Internet? Also, then so are all of you for your claims.
You are the only one here claiming to have an OU device,and not just one,but 15+ different one's.
[Rick replies: I don't think that is correct. And I didn't say 15, I said out of around 100 different kinds of systems, only around 15 are practical to make that I know of. There are more than that.]
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And why does this forum even have any posts on it if there is not one proven claim yet? Why not start the forum AFTER something is proven and then you can have actually practical discussions about it rather than go around in circles for years?
Read the name of the forum-->OverUnityResearch.
The forum is dedicated to researching claimed OU device's,-->not promoting claimed OU devices without the required research to back up said claims.
[Rick replies: OK, so enlarge on what that means. What are the acceptable conversations here? I've just been going back and forth replying to questions asked. Obviously this is still happening. That is my point.]
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The way Brad is arguing would imply that there is no justification for his or anyone's writing anything here. Not only have no claims been proven, but none actually can be proven. This then becomes just a crafty way of ensuring that OU will be discredited.
No,this insures that we do not turn into another energetic forum.
This forum has guidelines for a reason,and that is not to promote snake oil salesman pitches.
[Rick replies: Guidelines that are not followed. So you're saying that it is energetic forum but not allowing anyone to make an OU claim? Because I see the same nasty spirit here as there.]
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Never mind the rhetoric all forums can only ever be a place so share information. Each person cannot have anything proven to themselves by another person over the Internet, unless it is a matter of mere words.
Garbage.
It is this simple--
You provide some one here(like Darren-AKA-Poynt) with the required information to construct one of your OU device's--or donate one of your OU kit's,and he then gets to work on taking and collecting accurate data.
He then delivers his finding here to the forum. This would be in the way of collected data over time,energy consumed by the device over that time,and energy dissipated by the device over that same value of time.
To anyone here,any data provided by Darren would be taken very seriously,and would be known to be extremely accurate. This is how every claimed OU device has been peer reviewed here on this forum,and it has happened on a few occasions now. !But!--this is something that you will avoid at all cost's.
[Rick replies: REALLY? Garbage?? That is ludicrous to disagree with. Wow, so you set up a gatekeeper to do science for everyone else. And then everyone is to believe what the prophet has spoken. Just amazing. And when he tells you it is safe to drink the cool aid do you drink it??? Wow, this is amazing. I'm so glad you finally came out with this. No wonder you didn't want to say this until now. This is a real keeper. This is rather big news in the free energy world. Don't worry folks you can trust Darren to prove things for you as we all grew up with him and know him "to be extremely accurate." But actually, don't worry because no claim will ever get through that wall. Brad, if I was looking for validation, which I have plenty of with thousands of people, I would not seek a stranger. The fact that there are so many people here and not one validation is sounding more and more like the Mythbusters or Amazing Randy. What you don't understand Brad, is that I have shared so many things over the years that people can do for themselves. I don't make the basic setups secret. Nor do I push a claim. I didn't come here doing that at all. I shared things for any of you to benefit from. You have turned this into an aggressive matter of prove or disprove antagonism. If you don't want to consider any of them then that is fine. I am not expecting you to. But for you to think that someone can prove something like this for another person is actually cultic under the circumstances. It is also the perfect way for a gatekeeper to turn people away from real OU technology. Just like that guy did with 4 million views on youtube when he faked the fan kit.]
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I have proven several things like that. But truths of demonstration in the physical world have to be really done personally.
Are you saying that your devices will not deliver OU unless you are present ?
[Rick replies: Wow Brad, really? You have to personally validate things for yourself in the real world.]
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You can all talk about the best ways of doing that, but Brad is ludicrous in demanding of proof on the Internet itself!
So you can make claim to having at least 15 OU device's,but i am ludicrous in asking for proof
You have things seriously twisted around Rick.
[Rick replies: Well I told you how proof works. No, twisted is expecting someone else over the internet to prove something for them.]
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And frankly he reminds me of my old mechanic days in the early 90s
Oh,so your a mechanic now as well.
Personally i wouldn't know anything about the subject
[Rick replies: Yes, started full time when I was young.]
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He is directly looking for trouble because he is admittedly prejudiced.
Ah,and there it is-->the very same tactic that John Bedini,Aaron,Linderman,and the like's use.
When one ask's the OU claimant to provide proof of there claim,you then become prejudice or a troll.
[Rick replies: No, I was not talking about OU claims. I have always told people to be skeptical about any such claims. Notice you jump to that and forget the context of what you did. You were prejudiced against me. You said sorry, but then you jump right back into that. Anyone can read how strict I am about people making false judgments for or against claims. Credulity is just as bad as incredulity. Both are just the same and are done at the same time. So once again, you assumed wrong. Proves the point. You are a very irrational man Brad. Very reactionary.]
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He has an agenda here, and even his stated agenda he has not proven or explained to make any sense at all.
I will let others here that know me tell you what my !agenda! here is.
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He may have some serious issues because he cannot tell the difference between the internet and the real world. I used to take care of people like that who were on medications to help them with that.
Oh,so the internet is not real.
Lets take the internet away,and see how many people watch your video's--how many people will buy your charger's--how many forum's you can get on to promote your !!!OU!!! device's.
This go's to show how hypocritical you are. You say that the internet is not the real world,but you use it every day to promote and sell your product's.
I do not think it is me that needs medicating
[Rick replies: No, living in cyberland is not real Brad. You need some help. You divert from what I said and the whole point. The internet is used to share information so that people can do things in the real world. Videos are not the real world. Pictures are not the real world. Information is shared but not proven over the Internet. That is matters of empirical science like this.]
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In the end I am no different than any of you,
If you think we are the same as you,then you have serious mental problem's.
Go read through all the thread's on this forum,and see how many you find that promote OU devices without any proof such a device exists. Find anyone else on here that is selling !claimed! OU kit's like you are.
!We! are nothing like you-->get that through your head.
[Rick replies: Well I can see some people that agree with the points I have made. So what you are saying is that because I claimed OU before I even knew about this forum, and someone else brought me up here, that you have the right to treat me different and attack me? I'm not equal to you? I'm the enemy? Is that the kind of agenda and research you do?]
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just sharing information over the Internet.
You have shared nothing of substance.
[Rick replies: Prove that claim Brad. Prove it over the internet. Oh, you are exempt from your claims. In the end you are just a gatekeeper seeking to disprove OU. You can prove otherwise Brad. Yeah, I didn't think so. This is what you do. You make accusations without substance. But you have zero credulity because you are purely reactionary and promote unscientific validations.]
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Every point applies to all of us the same.
Yes it dose,and that includes you.
For some reason you think you can make claim's of having OU device's,and are exempt from providing the required proof to back up said claim's,while the rest of us here are required to provide the required proof before we may present or claim any device as being OU.
[Rick replies: I never claimed to be able to prove anything like OU over the internet. Read the title of my recent video will you. I didn't come here trying to prove OU. You keep assuming that. But I always want to help people prove to themselves. You are very confused. You have watched too much Twilight zone shows maybe.]
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We can't prove OU of the Internet,
More garbage.
In fact,proving an OU device has never been easier now we have the internet.
It work's just as i described above-->present your schematic for your device,so as it can be replicated-->or donate one of your kit's to those here that are top EE guy's,so as they can test and confirm your claim's with great accuracy.
[Rick replies: Well prove that to us Brad. Why is that garbage? Those are two different things. An EE can only show himself, and only he will know his motivations. That is not transferable to someone else. You are not claiming divine inspiration are you? Are you really wanting to make a prophet? What is the difference between this and the corrupt institutions today? Set up another hierarchy and dispense with individual proofs? Now that is worse than garbage. And I think this is probably just your overreacting. I doubt that everyone here would agree with you. Well at least two don't.]
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and if I have to prove something then so do all of you.
All of us have not claimed to have an OU device,little lone 15+ of them.
[Rick replies: Well all of you believe in OU devices. Solar, Wind, Hydro, etc. Once solar was not believed either.]
Anyone here that thought they had an OU device presented there device here,so as others could replicate that device,test that device,and discuss there finding's with each other.
[Rick replies: So where did that get them?]
In every case,accurate result's were had from this form of testing,and it has worked 100% of the time so far.
[Rick replies: 100% did not get through. So how could you communicate to me proof that they failed?]
Your device's would be no different. The only difference is that you will not present a device for us to replicate and test. This is because you are afraid that the truth will come out,and sales will drop to almost 0.
[Rick replies: If that was true then people would not want seconds and thirds. I don't advertise, customers do freely. Now you have shown yourself to be completely illogical, reactionary and delusional. Most of you have been hostile from the very beginning, especially you, and desperate to find fault. Therefore most of you on this thread are not showing sincerity about OU research. You are more interested in attacking then OU research. If OU research was so important and you think I had nothing then you would just stay on other threads and not spend so much time attacking. You are afraid. Or you just want to get more OU information.]
So Rick,due to your blatant lie about being different to those like Bedini,Aaron,Linderman,i hear by retract my apology,as you are exactly like them in every way.
[Rick replies: You already retracted yesterday, or earlier than that. See how unstable you are? Back and forth. Just reactionary. Surely other people have told you that about yourself. Your apology was merely based upon me exposing two of your enemies. That is reactionary. That is unsound. But you really don't believe what your saying anyway. This is all just a front. You believed me then and you believe me now. Not in my OU claims necessarily, but about who I am. But you are doing all this for another reason. Could be reactionary.]
I have no room or time in my life for snake oil-scamming salesmen like you.
[Rick replies: Obviously you have made a lot of room here after you said you were leaving a week ago. So that tells everyone you are taking me seriously and tells me you are just another gatekeeper like the other forums. Just another hobbyist personality used to give the impression that there is no OU, nothing that can be experienced by the average joe like yourself.]
You prey on the gullible just like the Bedini camp did/dose.
[Rick replies: Yeah, I provide what people have asked for and then they want more. Did you ever realize that your whole demand for me is actually preying upon people to become credulous (gullible)? You have given the best illustration of being gullible: Trust someone else you don't know and have never met or seen over the internet to prove something to you. What you are actually doing is wanting another Bedini here. A new living legend to trust in everything. I'm glad you said that as it just made that clear to me.]
You make claim's of OU,but you have not once provided any evidence to back up those claim's.
[Rick replies: That is a lie. Evidence is at many meetings. Proof is with the individuals.]
Just like Bedini,Aaron,and Linderman-->you have to buy the book,video,or kit to see the OU.
[Rick replies: Another lie. I have told people for years. Three years I was doing this without selling anything. Then people demanded product.]
You live in the stone age and a world of your own,and show some LED's lit as some form of confirmation of OU.
[Rick replies: How about a 26' boat in the real world?]
I mean,you cant be serious . There are those here that can light 10 time's more LEDs using a AA battery on a blocking oscillator circuit-->is that OU to you?.
[Rick replies: So you can beat that can you? Power 8W of light for 3/4W input? All on a video that I named you can't prove anything over the Internet. Shows how much you are paying attention. You didn't even listen to a word I said.]
In fact Rick,i am surprised that Peter and Poynt have let you get away with it for this long,as anyone else of us here making the same claims would have been asked to put up or shut up by now-and that would be without the promotion of OU kit's for sale.
[Rick replies: I have had zero problems with Poynt even though you want to make him Bedini all over again. You know, maybe because I am not pushing any OU claims. I never came here doing that, but you are trying to force that. You are against OU claims in some kind of bitterness. Purely reactionary. Maybe you are just reacting against A.King. I told him not to promote my kit on these forums. I came here and answered questions. I shared my story. You just are taking this way too seriously. Overreacting. It's like I said something evil. Like saying MAGA in a DNC forum or Clinton in the other camp. Again, it suggest OU suppression.]
I could just imagine what would happen to me if i claimed to have a self running pulse motor,and then started promoting a kit for sale of said pulse motor without providing any such proof of actually having one-here on this forum.
[Rick replies: By your own views you would be a thief automatically. Anyone selling OU has to be fake snake oil right?]
You are doing exactly that,and correct me if i'm wrong here--
1-you claim to have free energy(OU) device's
[Rick replies: Yes.]
3-you refuse to provide us here on this forum a schematic
[Rick replies: False I have provided many to the public over the years.]
or kit,so as we may verify your claim.
[Rick replies: I am not pushing a claim on you. That is the difference. You just don't get it. I am not here to convince anyone. I just answered questions people asked. You are the hostile one.]
4-you claim the internet is not the real world,but you use said internet to promote and sell your product's to the real world.
[Rick replies: No, online forums on the Internet is not the real world. It is really escapism. You are perfectly exemplifying that delusion. It is like watching science fiction without the science. lol That's a keeper! Sharing information over the internet is not proving anything over the internet that is a matter of physical personal demonstration. Information over the internet is hacked spoofed all the time. People think they are talking to someone else. People are deceived all the time. But you don't think so. Everything is real. People are who they say they are. Honestly, yep. Credulous man.]
5-you claim you are not like Bedini,Aaron,Linderman-etc.
[Rick replies: Not like them.]
6-you state that anyone asking for you to prove your claim of OU is prejudice,a troll,or needs to be on medication.
[Rick replies: Never said that. That was your prejudice again. But I doubt you will apologize for that assumption. I emphatically said not to believe OU over the internet. Again, I specifically made a video with that title and thesis. Can you read Brad? This is a major blunder for you here. This shows you are fundamentally wrong about what you even think I am saying. You are so reactional that you can't even see the most obvious thing. Now to ask me to prove something impossible is ludicrous. I can't prove anything over the Internet. Believe me I would try if I could do that. But it is far more important for me to promote real science and honesty than try and get people to be gullible. I am far more aggressive against false OU claims than you are. I have exposed many people and helped many people who have been wronged. I have helped many people out of cults in the same way.]
7-you state that you are nothing like Bedini,Aaron,Linderman,even though you act in the very same way,and promote product's under the same false pretenses as they did.
[Rick replies: How so? And you are so reactional that you can't tell the difference between what works and what doesn't. You would throw out Tesla because they mentioned him. I've seen your overreactions. You are immature, so I don't consider you a representative of this forum. There are several people here who have been professional. But you are like a 13 year old kid going through puberty.]
Some how--some way Rick,i am going to get one of your kit's,and i am going to deliver my finding's over the !un-real! internet,which would be the forum's and my youtube channel.
[Rick replies: Well then I'll keep these quotes to show everyone your intentions and twisted illogic. Guess what they will think? You are seriously deluded. You can't even realize that the Internet is not a physical place were we are personally dwelling in. Too much virtual reality Brad! You are confusing being on the telliphone with sitting on the couch. The other person is not beside you. You can tell them what you see but you can't prove it to them.]
You have 8,299 subscribers and 1,874,689 views
I have 16,914 subscriber's,and 4,977,900 view's.
[Rick replies: That's fine, I'm not boasting about anything. I am a servant and you care about numbers. You just keep digging deeper and deeper into this don't you?]
This mean's Rick,that my 1 video review of your OU kit will reach more people than all your video's put together have. But no need to worry,as the internet is un-real ,and so this should have no reflection on you what so ever.
[Rick replies: Now you are just like Aaron here. His lies on the front page actually result in sending good people over to me. I really don't care for the people who want to believe your methodology and delusion. I really can't help anyone who is so lost in virtual reality that they can't tell what is real anymore. You are just another case in point Brad. Your words will be remembered. They are classic. You'll be famous. Just do another fake fan video and get your 4 million views on one page. That's what you want, to be recognized, famous. Right? The guy who suppress free energy by overreacting to Bedini camp.]
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