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poynt99	Re: The Non-Sense Pulse Motor. « Reply #300 on: 2019-01-20, 16:27:40 »
Group: Administrator Hero Member Posts: 3217 It's not as complicated as it may seem...	Quote from: TinMan on 2019-01-20, 02:59:21 Now,if CVR1 and C1 were part of the power supply,then there would be no questions asked(see schematic below),as P/in would be 81.2mA @ 24.1v + the small amount of P/in from the FG. This would be measured at the power supply output. I'm not following you here. Can you elaborate? --------------------------- "Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe." Frank Zappa

TinMan	Re: The Non-Sense Pulse Motor. « Reply #301 on: 2019-01-20, 23:01:51 »
Group: Elite Experimentalist Hero Member Posts: 4728	Quote from: poynt99 on 2019-01-20, 16:27:40 I'm not following you here. Can you elaborate? Well,power to the coil would be calculated by using the voltage value of the cap x the current value flowing through CVR2. But because CVR1 and the cap are considered part of the circuit,then we are calculating P/in by voltage across the power supply x current through CVR1 --------------------------- Never let your schooling get in the way of your education.

JimBoot	Re: The Non-Sense Pulse Motor. « Reply #302 on: 2019-01-21, 12:12:22 »
Group: Tinkerer Hero Member Posts: 1770	Quick to setup... and 60 hours to calibrate... egggh. Should have bought a kit. Getting closer. Will do a full run tomorrow, then I have to print a spool winding jig. ------------------------ The Non-Sense Pulse Motor. Screen Shot 2019-01-21 at 11.11.25 pm.png (3197.6 kB, 1134x1286 - viewed 695 times.)

Magluvin	Re: The Non-Sense Pulse Motor. « Reply #303 on: 2019-01-21, 23:49:56 »
Group: Mad Scientist Hero Member Posts: 549	Quote from: TinMan on 2019-01-20, 23:01:51 Well,power to the coil would be calculated by using the voltage value of the cap x the current value flowing through CVR2. But because CVR1 and the cap are considered part of the circuit,then we are calculating P/in by voltage across the power supply x current through CVR1 Wouldnt we want to use the voltage of the coil and the current of cvr2 to measure the power to the coil? Mags

TinMan	Re: The Non-Sense Pulse Motor. « Reply #304 on: 2019-01-22, 02:24:16 »
Group: Elite Experimentalist Hero Member Posts: 4728	Quote from: Magluvin on 2019-01-21, 23:49:56 Wouldnt we want to use the voltage of the coil and the current of cvr2 to measure the power to the coil? Mags Yes we would --------------------------- Never let your schooling get in the way of your education.

TinMan	Re: The Non-Sense Pulse Motor. « Reply #305 on: 2019-01-22, 02:27:37 »
Group: Elite Experimentalist Hero Member Posts: 4728	Quote from: JimBoot on 2019-01-21, 12:12:22 Quick to setup... and 60 hours to calibrate... egggh. Should have bought a kit. Getting closer. Will do a full run tomorrow, then I have to print a spool winding jig. Well,I've never used a printer before,and i am now printing near perfect prints. This el cheapo printer dose an excellent job when all the parameters are set correctly in cura Brad --------------------------- Never let your schooling get in the way of your education.

TinMan	Re: The Non-Sense Pulse Motor. « Reply #306 on: 2019-01-22, 04:45:01 »
Group: Elite Experimentalist Hero Member Posts: 4728	Quote from: JimBoot on 2019-01-21, 12:12:22 Quick to setup... and 60 hours to calibrate... egggh. Should have bought a kit. Getting closer. Will do a full run tomorrow, then I have to print a spool winding jig. Hey Jim If i give you a couple of pictures and dimentions,can you draw up and make a file to print out the parts?,as im yet to learn that stuff. --------------------------- Never let your schooling get in the way of your education.

JimBoot	Re: The Non-Sense Pulse Motor. « Reply #307 on: 2019-01-22, 05:45:35 »
Group: Tinkerer Hero Member Posts: 1770	Quote from: TinMan on 2019-01-22, 04:45:01 Hey Jim If i give you a couple of pictures and dimentions,can you draw up and make a file to print out the parts?,as im yet to learn that stuff. of course. When you setup a tinkercad account, I can share and you can edit your own version. I had Y axis creep, Z motors out of sync, didn't realise that after I'd leveled the bed 10,000 times., and a stuffed nozzle I had to replace. Cable management was also an issue so I'll printing some brackets for that.

TinMan	Re: The Non-Sense Pulse Motor. « Reply #308 on: 2019-01-22, 06:53:37 »
Group: Elite Experimentalist Hero Member Posts: 4728	Quote from: JimBoot on 2019-01-22, 05:45:35 of course. When you setup a tinkercad account, I can share and you can edit your own version. I had Y axis creep, Z motors out of sync, didn't realise that after I'd leveled the bed 10,000 times., and a stuffed nozzle I had to replace. Cable management was also an issue so I'll printing some brackets for that. Is tinkercad the program you use to draw up your prints ? Brad --------------------------- Never let your schooling get in the way of your education.

JimBoot	Re: The Non-Sense Pulse Motor. « Reply #309 on: 2019-01-22, 09:28:19 »
Group: Tinkerer Hero Member Posts: 1770	Quote from: TinMan on 2019-01-22, 06:53:37 Is tinkercad the program you use to draw up your prints ? Brad Tinkercad is for design with it's own editing environment. You export an stl file of your model and get it ready for your printer in Cura.

TinMan	Re: The Non-Sense Pulse Motor. « Reply #310 on: 2019-01-22, 09:55:07 »
Group: Elite Experimentalist Hero Member Posts: 4728	Quote from: JimBoot on 2019-01-22, 09:28:19 Tinkercad is for design with it's own editing environment. You export an stl file of your model and get it ready for your printer in Cura. So,design on tinkercad. Then save as stl file.Then import to cura,make changes to settings as desired ,then save to card and print ?. --------------------------- Never let your schooling get in the way of your education.

TinMan	Re: The Non-Sense Pulse Motor. « Reply #311 on: 2019-01-22, 10:29:10 »
Group: Elite Experimentalist Hero Member Posts: 4728	Quote from: JimBoot on 2019-01-22, 05:45:35 of course. When you setup a tinkercad account, I can share and you can edit your own version. I had Y axis creep, Z motors out of sync, didn't realise that after I'd leveled the bed 10,000 times., and a stuffed nozzle I had to replace. Cable management was also an issue so I'll printing some brackets for that. OK,below is a couple of pictures of the bits i have to print,along with a drawing showing the sizes. Is this enough info ? Brad. ------------------------ The Non-Sense Pulse Motor. 50556255_10156082671345905_400701812853702656_n.jpg (25.9 kB, 714x960 - viewed 603 times.) The Non-Sense Pulse Motor. 50629952_10156082671480905_8601946211072606208_n.jpg (26.32 kB, 714x960 - viewed 592 times.) The Non-Sense Pulse Motor. Wheel aligner machine.JPG (9.64 kB, 284x368 - viewed 553 times.) --------------------------- Never let your schooling get in the way of your education.

JimBoot	Re: The Non-Sense Pulse Motor. « Reply #312 on: 2019-01-22, 10:35:09 »
Group: Tinkerer Hero Member Posts: 1770	Yep I reckon I'm capable of that. Maybe one more pic so I can see the depth of the 5mm lug.

TinMan	Re: The Non-Sense Pulse Motor. « Reply #313 on: 2019-01-22, 10:38:05 »
Group: Elite Experimentalist Hero Member Posts: 4728	Quote from: JimBoot on 2019-01-22, 10:35:09 Yep I reckon I'm capable of that. Well this will be my first paying print job These bits would cost the boss $23.00 each from the manufacture,so i said i would do them for $10.00 each. Need four of them,so thats 2 more rolls of PLA --------------------------- Never let your schooling get in the way of your education.

TinMan	Re: The Non-Sense Pulse Motor. « Reply #314 on: 2019-01-22, 10:42:45 »
Group: Elite Experimentalist Hero Member Posts: 4728	Quote from: JimBoot on 2019-01-22, 10:35:09 Yep I reckon I'm capable of that. Maybe one more pic so I can see the depth of the 5mm lug. I dont have anymore pics Bits are round,so widest part of the lug is 5mm It would look like a woodruff key from top looking down. --------------------------- Never let your schooling get in the way of your education.

TinMan	Re: The Non-Sense Pulse Motor. « Reply #315 on: 2019-01-22, 10:45:27 »
Group: Elite Experimentalist Hero Member Posts: 4728	Top looking down pic of lug The one in the actual pic is slightly damaged,and so leans out a bit.\But should be vertical ------------------------ The Non-Sense Pulse Motor. Lug.JPG (7.01 kB, 284x368 - viewed 521 times.) --------------------------- Never let your schooling get in the way of your education.

JimBoot	Re: The Non-Sense Pulse Motor. « Reply #316 on: 2019-01-22, 11:46:53 »
Group: Tinkerer Hero Member Posts: 1770	Here you go.https://www.tinkercad.com/things/lWWJOSfbFlb-tinmans-thingy ------------------------ The Non-Sense Pulse Motor. Screen Shot 2019-01-22 at 10.46.31 pm.png (480.27 kB, 556x588 - viewed 381 times.)

TinMan	Re: The Non-Sense Pulse Motor. « Reply #317 on: 2019-01-22, 11:51:05 »
Group: Elite Experimentalist Hero Member Posts: 4728	Quote from: JimBoot on 2019-01-22, 11:46:53 Here you go.https://www.tinkercad.com/things/lWWJOSfbFlb-tinmans-thingy Bloody hell Jim,that was fast Thank you very much. I just had a quick go on tinkercad,and have a cylinder printing ATM--but couldnt figure out how to put the angle and lug on it. Cheers Brad --------------------------- Never let your schooling get in the way of your education.

JimBoot	Re: The Non-Sense Pulse Motor. « Reply #318 on: 2019-01-22, 12:18:25 »
Group: Tinkerer Hero Member Posts: 1770	Quote from: TinMan on 2019-01-22, 11:51:05 Bloody hell Jim,that was fast Thank you very much. I just had a quick go on tinkercad,and have a cylinder printing ATM--but couldnt figure out how to put the angle and lug on it. Cheers Brad I surprised myself actually. I used a cylinder, the rooftop triangle in "hole" mode then chopped off the waste with a cube hole, then grouped it all together. You can ungroup that and see the pieces. edit. and another cylinder in the the base as a hole.

TinMan	Re: The Non-Sense Pulse Motor. « Reply #319 on: 2019-01-22, 12:37:49 »
Group: Elite Experimentalist Hero Member Posts: 4728	First one done Jim. Worked out a treat 3 more on the go now. Oh,and an RC prop i scaled up and printed last night. This one is for the 2 meter solar boat Brad ------------------------ The Non-Sense Pulse Motor. 50628580_10156082884650905_997093249225064448_n.jpg (64.05 kB, 714x960 - viewed 400 times.) The Non-Sense Pulse Motor. 50516662_10156082889270905_8848505603337748480_n.jpg (62.76 kB, 714x960 - viewed 408 times.) --------------------------- Never let your schooling get in the way of your education.

JimBoot	Re: The Non-Sense Pulse Motor. « Reply #320 on: 2019-01-22, 20:09:50 »
Group: Tinkerer Hero Member Posts: 1770	Ha sweet. I'm getting stringy prints again witht the filament I'm using and need to do some more work on the z motors as they wander 4mm out over a few hours of use. I don't like the threads peaking through on the rotor so I'll see if I can tidy the model up a bit. ------------------------ The Non-Sense Pulse Motor. Screen Shot 2019-01-23 at 7.09.02 am.png (1273.23 kB, 858x1010 - viewed 411 times.)

TinMan	Re: The Non-Sense Pulse Motor. « Reply #321 on: 2019-01-22, 23:24:10 »
Group: Elite Experimentalist Hero Member Posts: 4728	Quote from: JimBoot on 2019-01-22, 20:09:50 Ha sweet. I'm getting stringy prints again witht the filament I'm using and need to do some more work on the z motors as they wander 4mm out over a few hours of use. I don't like the threads peaking through on the rotor so I'll see if I can tidy the model up a bit. What printer did you get Jim?. Im just using the cheap $18.00 filament from ebay,and seems to work just fine-so far. Perhaps we should open a 3D printer thread , so we have somewhere to share all this 3D printing stuff?. Brad --------------------------- Never let your schooling get in the way of your education.

Magluvin	Re: The Non-Sense Pulse Motor. « Reply #322 on: 2019-01-23, 00:36:43 »
Group: Mad Scientist Hero Member Posts: 549	Quote from: JimBoot on 2019-01-22, 20:09:50 Ha sweet. I'm getting stringy prints again witht the filament I'm using and need to do some more work on the z motors as they wander 4mm out over a few hours of use. I don't like the threads peaking through on the rotor so I'll see if I can tidy the model up a bit. Hey Jim Have you tried using retraction? Mags

JimBoot	Re: The Non-Sense Pulse Motor. « Reply #323 on: 2019-01-23, 00:55:50 »
Group: Tinkerer Hero Member Posts: 1770	Quote from: Magluvin on 2019-01-23, 00:36:43 Hey Jim Have you tried using retraction? Mags Yeah. I think my problem is the right z axis going out of sync, so bed leveling goes to shit and the filament doesn't lay down properly. Lot's of extruder clicking as well. I got the Anet E12 Brad. Build volume of 300x300x 400. I think a thread would be good. I'm a big fan of this iron PLA. I'm wondering if we could produce a structure that would minimise eddy currents with max permeability. Seems to behave like ferrite but obviously not in the heat dept. I will be running some side by side tests of ferrite vs iron PLA. Have not got a protocol for them yet though.

TinMan	Re: The Non-Sense Pulse Motor. « Reply #324 on: 2019-01-23, 04:19:31 »
Group: Elite Experimentalist Hero Member Posts: 4728	Quote from: JimBoot on 2019-01-23, 00:55:50 Yeah. I think my problem is the right z axis going out of sync, so bed leveling goes to shit and the filament doesn't lay down properly. Lot's of extruder clicking as well. I got the Anet E12 Brad. Build volume of 300x300x 400. I think a thread would be good. I'm a big fan of this iron PLA. I'm wondering if we could produce a structure that would minimise eddy currents with max permeability. Seems to behave like ferrite but obviously not in the heat dept. I will be running some side by side tests of ferrite vs iron PLA. Have not got a protocol for them yet though. Hey Jim I have started a 3d printing thread. Perhaps repost your Z axis problem there,as i have a fix for that. Brad --------------------------- Never let your schooling get in the way of your education.

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