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Magluvin	Re: The Non-Sense Pulse Motor. « Reply #25 on: 2018-12-23, 20:44:44 »
Group: Mad Scientist Hero Member Posts: 549	Nice Dont need much. Use small amounts to attach and dry quickly, then apply an even amount around as to not unbalance the wheel. Mags

Hoptoad	Re: The Non-Sense Pulse Motor. « Reply #26 on: 2018-12-26, 04:30:09 »
Group: Guest	Quote from: TinMan on 2018-12-18, 14:05:38 Please see diagram below,and think about what you are looking at. Using changes in the transition zone between the rotor and stator magnets and resulting changes to the neutral zone within the rotor magnet to induce a current in the rotor coil, the magnitude of which is independent from the current supplied to the stator coil. Cheers

ronee	Re: The Non-Sense Pulse Motor. « Reply #27 on: 2018-12-26, 16:31:23 »
Group: Experimentalist Hero Member Posts: 841	Quote from: Hoptoad on 2018-12-26, 04:30:09 Using changes in the transition zone between the rotor and stator magnets and resulting changes to the neutral zone within the rotor magnet to induce a current in the rotor coil, the magnitude of which is independent from the current supplied to the stator coil. Cheers Excellent, i will buy that Long time no see, my friend. Ron

TinMan	Re: The Non-Sense Pulse Motor. « Reply #28 on: 2018-12-26, 23:39:11 »
Group: Elite Experimentalist Hero Member Posts: 4728	Quote from: Hoptoad on 2018-12-26, 04:30:09 Using changes in the transition zone between the rotor and stator magnets and resulting changes to the neutral zone within the rotor magnet to induce a current in the rotor coil, the magnitude of which is independent from the current supplied to the stator coil. Cheers Indeed --------------------------- Never let your schooling get in the way of your education.

Hoptoad	Re: The Non-Sense Pulse Motor. « Reply #29 on: 2018-12-27, 07:40:45 »
Group: Guest	Quote from: ronee on 2018-12-26, 16:31:23 Excellent, i will buy that Long time no see, my friend. Ron LOL. As usual Ron, I'm not selling! Hope you've had a merry christmas festive season, all the best for the coming new year. Cheers and KneeDeep

TinMan	Re: The Non-Sense Pulse Motor. « Reply #30 on: 2018-12-27, 23:11:29 »
Group: Elite Experimentalist Hero Member Posts: 4728	Well now that xmas is out of the way,i can get back into the workshop. Should have the testbed done by sat night. Brad --------------------------- Never let your schooling get in the way of your education.

JimBoot	Re: The Non-Sense Pulse Motor. « Reply #31 on: 2018-12-29, 03:05:22 »
Group: Tinkerer Hero Member Posts: 1770	Thanks for sharing Brad. Did you just have the iron pipe lying around? I don't suppose you got it from Reece or Bunnings

JimBoot	Re: The Non-Sense Pulse Motor. « Reply #32 on: 2018-12-29, 08:43:19 »
Group: Tinkerer Hero Member Posts: 1770	Never mind printing with Iron PLA. Mine will be scaled down so I can print parts.

Slider2732	Re: The Non-Sense Pulse Motor. « Reply #33 on: 2018-12-30, 02:27:20 »
Group: Elite Experimentalist Hero Member Posts: 1399 ... .-.. .. -.. . .-.	Iron PLA? What kind of temperature do you have to set the extruder to for that stuff? I mean, 200C wouldn't melt it, would it? Have just never heard of it, have heard of conductive filaments...unless...that's what a conductive filament is made with ! sound in the background of a penny dropping --------------------------- ʎɐqǝ from pɹɐoqʎǝʞ a ʎnq ɹǝʌǝu

JimBoot	Re: The Non-Sense Pulse Motor. « Reply #34 on: 2018-12-30, 06:40:23 »
Group: Tinkerer Hero Member Posts: 1770	Quote from: Slider2732 on 2018-12-30, 02:27:20 Iron PLA? What kind of temperature do you have to set the extruder to for that stuff? I mean, 200C wouldn't melt it, would it? Have just never heard of it, have heard of conductive filaments...unless...that's what a conductive filament is made with ! sound in the background of a penny dropping conductive is usually graphene so resistance sucks. https://www.proto-pasta.com/pages/magnetic-iron-pla drive coil done in time for NYE ------------------------ The Non-Sense Pulse Motor. Screen Shot 2018-12-30 at 5.39.16 pm.png (3695.76 kB, 2108x1376 - viewed 979 times.)

TinMan	Re: The Non-Sense Pulse Motor. « Reply #35 on: 2018-12-30, 23:58:27 »
Group: Elite Experimentalist Hero Member Posts: 4728	Ok,so i was thinking about this some more,and i believe there would be a benefit in putting a slot along the length of the steel tube,so as it is not seen as a shorted turn. At these low RPM,it may not have much effect,but every bit helps. So if you have not built your drive coil yet,it may be something to consider ? Brad --------------------------- Never let your schooling get in the way of your education.

TinMan	Re: The Non-Sense Pulse Motor. « Reply #36 on: 2018-12-31, 02:55:58 »
Group: Elite Experimentalist Hero Member Posts: 4728	A couple of pictures taken during the build. As i have chosen to share this with you all,rather than going down the private !hope to find investors! route,i would hope that you follow and stick to the build instructions i have given you. This includes making sure that the quality of the build is high,so as it has the best chance of giving the results we need. This includes making sure your windings are as neat as possible. I dont expect to see machine wound quality,but you can get the coil windings quite neat when wound by hand. Remember,this is not a race,so give the build the time it deserves. Brad ------------------------ The Non-Sense Pulse Motor. drive coil former complete.jpg (31.02 kB, 714x960 - viewed 820 times.) The Non-Sense Pulse Motor. coil wound 1.jpg (38.32 kB, 960x720 - viewed 799 times.) --------------------------- Never let your schooling get in the way of your education.

Magluvin	Re: The Non-Sense Pulse Motor. « Reply #37 on: 2018-12-31, 03:50:57 »
Group: Mad Scientist Hero Member Posts: 549	Hey Brad Is the iron tube used to not demagnetize the magnets with the pulse of the drive coil? Mags

JimBoot	Re: The Non-Sense Pulse Motor. « Reply #38 on: 2018-12-31, 03:59:41 »
Group: Tinkerer Hero Member Posts: 1770	Quote from: TinMan on 2018-12-31, 02:55:58 This includes making sure your windings are as neat as possible. I dont expect to see machine wound quality,but you can get the coil windings quite neat when wound by hand. Brad FAIL on my 1st drive coil ...... Do you straighten your F&P rotor wire? For my rotor the print will take around 13h then I've designed hollow threaded bobbins to house the mags and screw into the rotor. The six will take a further 10 hours to print I think. Still to design a robust housing for it all. ------------------------ The Non-Sense Pulse Motor. Screen Shot 2018-12-31 at 2.57.40 pm.png (34.7 kB, 440x404 - viewed 754 times.)

TinMan	Re: The Non-Sense Pulse Motor. « Reply #39 on: 2018-12-31, 06:51:37 »
Group: Elite Experimentalist Hero Member Posts: 4728	Quote from: Magluvin on 2018-12-31, 03:50:57 Hey Brad Is the iron tube used to not demagnetize the magnets with the pulse of the drive coil? Mags Hi Mags The iron tube is to concentrate the magnetic field produced by the drive coil. Brad --------------------------- Never let your schooling get in the way of your education.

TinMan	Re: The Non-Sense Pulse Motor. « Reply #40 on: 2018-12-31, 06:52:37 »
Group: Elite Experimentalist Hero Member Posts: 4728	Quote from: JimBoot on 2018-12-31, 03:59:41 FAIL on my 1st drive coil ...... Do you straighten your F&P rotor wire? For my rotor the print will take around 13h then I've designed hollow threaded bobbins to house the mags and screw into the rotor. The six will take a further 10 hours to print I think. Still to design a robust housing for it all. Oh wish i had a 3D printer. Would make life so easy Great idea there Jim Brad --------------------------- Never let your schooling get in the way of your education.

JimBoot	Re: The Non-Sense Pulse Motor. « Reply #41 on: 2018-12-31, 07:17:54 »
Group: Tinkerer Hero Member Posts: 1770	Quote from: TinMan on 2018-12-31, 06:52:37 Oh wish i had a 3D printer. Would make life so easy Great idea there Jim Brad Maaaaate you would love it. Mine is too small now. Got it from Aldi for $300. Good one to start with so I know what I'm missing. Spool prototype failed - thread needs to be bigger. These Neos aren't going anywhere. The outward end is concave internally, with the outer facing hole 6mm. I'm hoping that will give me 1mm or less clearance for the neo.

JimBoot	Re: The Non-Sense Pulse Motor. « Reply #42 on: 2018-12-31, 13:35:59 »
Group: Tinkerer Hero Member Posts: 1770	i'm glad I have a printer. I don't have your skills Brad.Rotor is printing. I'll be printing the poles in a flexible pla as it's tight fit for the mag. I'm thinking a horiz mount for this unless we're relying on gravity ------------------------ The Non-Sense Pulse Motor. IMG_0193.jpg (120.88 kB, 800x1066 - viewed 779 times.) The Non-Sense Pulse Motor. IMG_0194.jpg (102.87 kB, 800x1066 - viewed 522 times.) The Non-Sense Pulse Motor. IMG_0192.jpg (70.81 kB, 800x600 - viewed 501 times.)

TinMan	Re: The Non-Sense Pulse Motor. « Reply #43 on: 2019-01-01, 04:06:53 »
Group: Elite Experimentalist Hero Member Posts: 4728	Quote from: JimBoot on 2018-12-31, 13:35:59 i'm glad I have a printer. I don't have your skills Brad.Rotor is printing. I'll be printing the poles in a flexible pla as it's tight fit for the mag. I'm thinking a horiz mount for this unless we're relying on gravity Ok I really have o get me a 3D printer. Then i'll be needing bulk lessons Jim lol. Brad --------------------------- Never let your schooling get in the way of your education.

TinMan	Re: The Non-Sense Pulse Motor. « Reply #44 on: 2019-01-01, 04:13:30 »
Group: Elite Experimentalist Hero Member Posts: 4728	So which one Jim ? https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Anet-A8-DIY-3D-Printer-Upgrade-High-Precision-Reprap-Prusa-i3-PLA-Filament-8G/372009728690?hash=item569d81fab2:rk:5:pf:0 https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Creality-3D-Ender-3-3D-Printer-OSHW-Certified-220X220X250mm-Removable-Plate-AU/223285106539?epid=12027081611&hash=item33fcd4576b:g:YgsAAOSwTiVcFHLV:rk:4:pf:0 https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2018-TEVO-Tarantula-3D-Printer-Kit-Prusa-I3-Aluminium-Frame-Auto-Leveling-PLUS/252681378402?_trkparms=aid%3D555018%26algo%3DPL.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140106155344%26meid%3Da1322029a06b403db841ca38ca9dc833%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D12%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D392191265796%26itm%3D252681378402&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851 https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Geeetech-Smart-high-precision-small-Size-touch-screen-3D-printer-With-Free-Tax/392191265796?epid=18019886994&hash=item5b506bcc04:g:9qIAAOSwevdZ7req:rk:12:pf:0 Brad --------------------------- Never let your schooling get in the way of your education.

Magluvin	Re: The Non-Sense Pulse Motor. « Reply #45 on: 2019-01-01, 09:16:12 »
Group: Mad Scientist Hero Member Posts: 549	Ive been looking at these. Great reviews https://www.banggood.com/search/creality.html?brand=724&sbc=1 Mags

TinMan	Re: The Non-Sense Pulse Motor. « Reply #46 on: 2019-01-01, 23:18:51 »
Group: Elite Experimentalist Hero Member Posts: 4728	Quote from: Magluvin on 2019-01-01, 09:16:12 Ive been looking at these. Great reviews https://www.banggood.com/search/creality.html?brand=724&sbc=1 Mags Yes Mags That seems to be the best out of the ones i listed. Cheaper on ebay through the creality seller. Brad --------------------------- Never let your schooling get in the way of your education.

JimBoot	Re: The Non-Sense Pulse Motor. « Reply #47 on: 2019-01-02, 00:35:00 »
Group: Tinkerer Hero Member Posts: 1770	Quote from: TinMan on 2019-01-01, 04:06:53 Ok I really have o get me a 3D printer. Then i'll be needing bulk lessons Jim lol. Brad Geeze I didn't have time for a kit. I just wanted one off the shelf I could start using. I now know I need a bigger print bed and heated, plus dual extrusion capability. I'm primarily using tinkercad for design as it's what my grandkids use at primary school Finding out it's limitations as well.

Magluvin	Re: The Non-Sense Pulse Motor. « Reply #48 on: 2019-01-02, 04:26:58 »
Group: Mad Scientist Hero Member Posts: 549	Quote from: JimBoot on 2019-01-02, 00:35:00 Geeze I didn't have time for a kit. I just wanted one off the shelf I could start using. I now know I need a bigger print bed and heated, plus dual extrusion capability. I'm primarily using tinkercad for design as it's what my grandkids use at primary school Finding out it's limitations as well. There is quite a bit of free software out there for 3d and 3d printing. https://www.nchsoftware.com/meshmagic3d/index.html?msclkid=618cb297a3d31684c248eebb98c2180b https://www.blender.org/ https://www.lifewire.com/free-3d-software-list-2005 https://all3dp.com/1/best-free-3d-modeling-software-3d-cad-3d-design-software/ http://www.3ders.org/3d-software/3d-software-list.html And software to help perfect the printing like Cura and Slicer.. https://all3dp.com/1/best-free-3d-printing-software-3d-printer-program/ Mags

TinMan	Re: The Non-Sense Pulse Motor. « Reply #49 on: 2019-01-02, 14:07:17 »
Group: Elite Experimentalist Hero Member Posts: 4728	Well i have decided on this one-->the Anet A8 https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/On-Sale-Anet-A8-DIY-3D-Printer-Kit-1-75mm-0-4mm-Support-ABS-PLA-HIPS-AU/132796055691?hash=item1eeb43008b:g:~90AAOSwQ3tbq0KM:rk:3:pf:0 Many reasons for this--some being--> It is only $172.00 AU delivered,and the quality is quite good. It is a kit,and i love putting things together---many many hours of joy with lego technics and mechano in my childhood years So many free upgrades for it,including the fire hazard fix ,and most upgrades you print your self. A lot of support groups. And can be made fully wifi enabled--no SD card for every print. So,this will be my first 3D printer,as never had anything to do with them before. So lets see how i go. $:-\$ The hardest part will be learning how to use some form of suitable designing program,so as i can design and print my own parts. All these years i have been building parts by hand,so once i get this all happening,the builds will be more precise and easier--maybe even cheaper Brad --------------------------- Never let your schooling get in the way of your education.

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