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Re: SM Videos Torrent Download « Reply #50 on: 2012-10-10, 15:59:55 »

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It's turtles all the way down

Quote from: tao on 2012-10-10, 15:41:28

I just want to say, for the record, regarding the stevenDmark account on OU.com, it was accessible by I believe Marco, EMDevices, and others, and I know this because I think if I recall correctly, it was Marco, he literally gave me the login and password for that account as proof and I was able to login. As far as I know, it was either one of them or another person that created that account as a rouse. I just wanted to state this for the record.

ISP's are logged at OUdotcom. Stefan should be able to prove or disprove the above.

Once again this kind of thing only muddies the water. I have a deep disdain for this kind of activity because it sends people down many empty rabbit holes and wastes an enormous amount of time.

Shame.

So who actually posted the above statement supposedly by SM?

Nevertheless, since the magnet sticks, the iron wire theory now seems more plausible. NMR in iron wire and isotope production is theoretically possible.

Devices are too light to have a ferrous core of large dimensions. SM's sabre saw would have dulled quickly when hitting ferrite. I'm leaning towards iron wire.

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Re: SM Videos Torrent Download « Reply #51 on: 2012-10-10, 16:06:28 »

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Quote from: ION on 2012-10-10, 15:59:55

ISP's are logged at OUdotcom. Stefan should be able to prove or disprove the above.

Once again this kind of thing only muddies the water. I have a deep disdain for this kind of activity because it sends people down many empty rabbit holes and wastes an enormous amount of time.

Shame.

I am with you 100%, its SUCH a waste of time.

Recall also all those FAKE TPUs put out there, by turbo(marco), then emdevices, then others, these again, only wasted time making people concentrate on these 'replications' when they were apriori bogus!

I didn't really believe marco until he sent the login info in a skype chat and it worked, that, and he had a screenshot he showed me saying that it was emdevices operating the account, but, in the end, who knows who was steering that rouse?!? All I know is, marco somehow got the login info and I was able to login once, and that of course lended credit to his accusations lol. Unless he was a hacker, which I doubted seriously!

So, I just wanted to say this here, now, after again Grumpy posted a message from 'stevenDmark'.

Shame indeed.

tao	Re: SM Videos Torrent Download « Reply #52 on: 2012-10-10, 16:12:58 »
Group: Guest	Quote from: ION on 2012-10-10, 15:59:55 So who actually posted the above statement supposedly by SM? Nevertheless, since the magnet sticks, the iron wire theory now seems more plausible. NMR in iron wire and isotope production is theoretically possible. Devices are too light to have a ferrous core of large dimensions. SM's sabre saw would have dulled quickly when hitting ferrite. I'm leaning towards iron wire. I think it was either marco or emdevices, and there were some other posts FROM that fake SM I think I recall lending evidence to em's receiver theory hehehe.(ie. EM lending evidence to his own theory) rofl Anyway, disregarding who wrote them, we should take them as explicitly false. But, your right, that doesn't discount the use of iron wire. Yea, ferrite would have destroyed the saw blade for sure.

ion	Re: SM Videos Torrent Download « Reply #53 on: 2012-10-10, 16:26:35 »
Group: Elite Hero Member Posts: 3537 It's turtles all the way down	Soft iron wire can be easily cut with a fine tooth sabre saw blade, provided it is rigidly held. I suggest the use of iron thermocouple grade wire as used in a "J" type thermocouple. It has high purity because it needs this to develop a precise EMF in measurement. It can be purchased easily in a variety of diameters. Note also that telephone wires from the pole to the house and underground are often made of copper clad steel wire for strength and also have a heavy durable rubber coating for moisture protection. Maybe a key to frequencies would be to string some of this up outdoors away from power lines, put through an audio amp and give a listen. I have always been amazed at the rich harmonics on an open telephone line. I'll have to try this using a laptop spectrum analyzer. --------------------------- "Secrecy, secret societies and secret groups have always been repugnant to a free and open society"......John F Kennedy

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Re: SM Videos Torrent Download « Reply #54 on: 2012-10-10, 16:45:33 »

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I know that inhomogenous magnetization of the iron wire will change the delay and alter the compressed pulse produced by the bifilar coils.

So, you take a magnet and get rid of that little nonuniform magetization issue.

Can we move on now? I'm tired of hashing over the same stuff year after year.

Forget the NMR of iron "ruse", and all of the BS about transmutation. Nothing need be transmuted, that is just a means of explaining something that doesn't appear possible with accepted laws.

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We can be reasonably sure, by now, that SM used several of these bifilar coils, around the ring. That means iron wires wrapped with these coil as delay elements, one for each coil. We also know that we do not need iron, as we can use delay circuits (like Peter showed).

We can be reasonably sure that the collector wires are horizontal. You could stick two pieces of wire in the side of the TPU and measure power. After all, SM did say the collectors are layed horizontal, then wrapped with control wires and then more control wires.

Based on the two assumptions above, the pulse created by the bifilar (don't forget it is biased by about 500v) somehow induces curent in the collector.

So, we need some circuits for a controllable test:

1. tunable delay of each segment
   (passive elements are simple enough and we are not using the iron delay method)
2. sequential adjustment of each segment is via #1
   (assuming he used one main square wave or sine wave signal for all of them and
   then adjusted delay of each segment to make them sequential)
   (I want to stay away from sequential trigger at this time to closer match the TPU rather than AVEC)
3. supply for the 500v bias (we switch over it) or we cheat and use a static coil
   (I vote for cheating for sake of time and easy of supplying power)
4. HV supply (1500v or more)

Damn. That just too easy. (I never bothered to lay this out on paper before)

Hmm. Lest we put the cart before the horse, we can test one segment coil with several loops of wire through the middle, still need the DC coil or 500v offset for bias (or a magnet -

)

I have everything but have to check on the delay element values, as I probably need some of the chip type, trimers caps, inductors, etc. Peter found the pulse compression effect with a ~220ns delay.

Anyone else game?

EDIT:
Hmm. I'll need a 1500v square wave source. I don't want to pull one off another project. I have an old one, but it's not all that great. I can just build antoher one though.

Man, this is going to be fun!

Anyone else?

« Last Edit: 2012-10-10, 17:24:36 by Grumpy »

tao	Re: SM Videos Torrent Download « Reply #55 on: 2012-10-10, 17:29:14 »
Group: Guest	Bump. « Last Edit: 2012-10-13, 22:07:13 by tao »

Grumpy	Re: SM Videos Torrent Download « Reply #56 on: 2012-10-10, 18:02:45 »
Group: Tinkerer Hero Member Posts: 3948 tExB=qr	Caps and inductors for delay elements or the chip-type of reconfigurable ones. You will want something you can adjust. These need to be HV to take the place of the iron wire since the coils are fed HV Yes, either two stages of delays: one for sequencing each coil, one for the delay of one of the bifilar wires of each coil OR (I was just layng it out on paper) Replace the first level of delay with some sort of sequential trigger and switch (each has it's pros and cons) Yes, the static coil is fed from a battery or DC supply for initial PoC We could also bias with HV, but then you have that to deal with.

tao	Re: SM Videos Torrent Download « Reply #57 on: 2012-10-10, 18:16:49 »
Group: Guest	Quote from: Grumpy on 2012-10-10, 18:02:45 Caps and inductors for delay elements or the chip-type of reconfigurable ones. You will want something you can adjust. These need to be HV to take the place of the iron wire since the coils are fed HV Yes, either two stages of delays: one for sequencing each coil, one for the delay of one of the bifilar wires of each coil OR (I was just layng it out on paper) Replace the first level of delay with some sort of sequential trigger and switch (each has it's pros and cons) Yes, the static coil is fed from a battery or DC supply for initial PoC We could also bias with HV, but then you have that to deal with. Agreed. « Last Edit: 2012-10-13, 22:06:43 by tao »

Grumpy	Re: SM Videos Torrent Download « Reply #58 on: 2012-10-10, 18:32:56 »
Group: Tinkerer Hero Member Posts: 3948 tExB=qr	I have not ruled out that he may have connected the coils in series, I just cannot see how that would work. Would make for easier switching. As far as sequential triggering or delays, it comes down to "switching" or "tuning". Switching 2kv or adjusting it. Delaying is easier to implement, and simple if you don't need to adjust it on the fly. This is what I think SM used. Thus shifts in delay timing would create a big problem.

tao	Re: SM Videos Torrent Download « Reply #59 on: 2012-10-10, 18:41:10 »
Group: Guest	Quote from: Grumpy on 2012-10-10, 18:32:56 I have not ruled out that he may have connected the coils in series, I just cannot see how that would work. Would make for easier switching. As far as sequential triggering or delays, it comes down to "switching" or "tuning". Switching 2kv or adjusting it. Delaying is easier to implement, and simple if you don't need to adjust it on the fly. This is what I think SM used. Thus shifts in delay timing would create a big problem. Cool. « Last Edit: 2012-10-13, 22:06:08 by tao »

Grumpy	Re: SM Videos Torrent Download « Reply #60 on: 2012-10-10, 18:49:15 »
Group: Tinkerer Hero Member Posts: 3948 tExB=qr	Quote from: tao on 2012-10-10, 18:41:10 Good point, hadn't thought about that. The fact that we could use a single switch perhaps and have tons of delay elements and have a workable setup. Hmm, pondering. Eaxactly, then you only need one or two switches for the square wave source. I don't know if this equates to the one or two toroidal things in the center of the TPU's. Somewhow, you need a 2kv squarewave generator. This could be a multivibrator (two switches), or a Pulser (delayline and one switch).

tao	Re: SM Videos Torrent Download « Reply #61 on: 2012-10-10, 18:56:00 »
Group: Guest	Quote from: Grumpy on 2012-10-10, 18:49:15 Eaxactly, then you only need one or two switches for the square wave source. I don't know if this equates to the one or two toroidal things in the center of the TPU's. Somewhow, you need a 2kv squarewave generator. This could be a multivibrator (two switches), or a Pulser (delayline and one switch). Right, thats awesome. In reference to the series connected delay elements, I just noted this patent, after looking up sequential delay lines and esl speakers... I was reading through this page http://www.quadesl.org/Hard_Core/ESL63History/esl63history.html on the history of the quad esls and I noted the one patent in particular by Kellogg, a quick glance and read through the patent shows this implementation, worth a glance... I'm attaching the patent at the bottom. EDIT: Just wanted to add that the first figure in the patent on the first page shows just what you said, a single signal source via a transformer into a number of series connected delay elements. ------------------------ US1983377A.pdf (518.21 kB - downloaded 379 times.)

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Re: SM Videos Torrent Download « Reply #62 on: 2012-10-10, 20:10:10 »

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Agreed, I honestly don't believe in any transmutation of the iron etc, its about the created fields via the coils and their interactions, etc...

I think many times people take things too far, they make things much more complicated than they need to be or than they actually are.
A long time ago I learned an important lesson about perception, I was watching a movie and I liked to immerse myself in the experience because it made it more enjoyable. That is we focus on the movie as if it were an event taking place before our eyes, as if we were there watching the real events unfold. Then I looked away for a second then back and found myself staring at a box, a box with moving pictures and it looked like actors on the screen pretending to be someone they are not in reality. Well the whole experience was completely ruined, why in the hell would I sit there and watch a box with moving pictures of other people pretending to be someone they are not?... it is absurd yet most people seem obsessed with it.

Once you see the illusion you see it everywhere and people create their own little world like a bubble around their home, work and friends, they create a bubble concerning information and knowledge and have decided what is what before they can even comprehend what they are seeing or reading. Like the phrase ... a fish in the ocean who has no comprehension of water, we and everything we know never originated here and every part of everything came from some other part of the universe, a universe we are moving through at this very moment yet we have no comprehension of it.

Knowing this it should come as no surprise that almost every single person in history who has done anything that really matters was either reclusive or anti-social, lol. They simply turned off our reality of things as easily as I turned off my television because they understood how absurd it was. I imagine your wondering where all this is going, logically all we need to know is how to move some electrons in one direction using less energy than we believe it would normally require. Which is why SM probably used very simple examples such as a single piece of wire and what happens when a magnet moves past it, now if we believe we will have to understand all of quantum physics to understand SM's device then why does he keep referring to a single piece of wire?. Why did Collins state the device was 99% cork as if most all of the device we see was simply filler?.
We will believe what we want to believe as it relates to our individual perception of the world around us however I can't help but think this is very easy. Somewhere along the line we have made everything so complicated that it makes no sense at all and personally I have found my greatest insights were always right in front of me I just refused to look.

Maybe we need to go back to the beginning, go back to a single piece of wire? but nobody wants to go there because we believe we know everything there is to know concerning it ... I'm thinking not.
AC

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Grumpy	Re: SM Videos Torrent Download « Reply #63 on: 2012-10-10, 20:44:45 »
Group: Tinkerer Hero Member Posts: 3948 tExB=qr	A preliminary test of the effect requires: 1. high voltage square wave gen. 2. passive delay for one wire of the bifilar coil 3. the bifilar coil 4. a bias coil fed by a dc supply, fitted around the bifilar 5. collector through center of bifilar (one pass or several should show something) (expect current pulses, not DC ) for the delay,we are ooking at something like: 50pf and 4.4 microHenries 20 and 11 these values for 220ns delay

ion	Re: SM Videos Torrent Download « Reply #64 on: 2012-10-10, 20:59:37 »
Group: Elite Hero Member Posts: 3537 It's turtles all the way down	I wonder if EM or Marco would come forward and put this issue to rest. G: Do you have a sketch of what you are proposing. A picture is worth a thousand words. Schematics nail things down, even if preliminary, and gives us something to ponder. --------------------------- "Secrecy, secret societies and secret groups have always been repugnant to a free and open society"......John F Kennedy

tao	Re: SM Videos Torrent Download « Reply #65 on: 2012-10-10, 21:05:27 »
Group: Guest	Quote from: allcanadian on 2012-10-10, 20:10:10 @tao I think many times people take things too far, they make things much more complicated than they need to be or than they actually are. A long time ago I learned an important lesson about perception, I was watching a movie and I liked to immerse myself in the experience because it made it more enjoyable. That is we focus on the movie as if it were an event taking place before our eyes, as if we were there watching the real events unfold. Then I looked away for a second then back and found myself staring at a box, a box with moving pictures and it looked like actors on the screen pretending to be someone they are not in reality. Well the whole experience was completely ruined, why in the hell would I sit there and watch a box with moving pictures of other people pretending to be someone they are not?... it is absurd yet most people seem obsessed with it. Once you see the illusion you see it everywhere and people create their own little world like a bubble around their home, work and friends, they create a bubble concerning information and knowledge and have decided what is what before they can even comprehend what they are seeing or reading. Like the phrase ... a fish in the ocean who has no comprehension of water, we and everything we know never originated here and every part of everything came from some other part of the universe, a universe we are moving through at this very moment yet we have no comprehension of it. Knowing this it should come as no surprise that almost every single person in history who has done anything that really matters was either reclusive or anti-social, lol. They simply turned off our reality of things as easily as I turned off my television because they understood how absurd it was. I imagine your wondering where all this is going, logically all we need to know is how to move some electrons in one direction using less energy than we believe it would normally require. Which is why SM probably used very simple examples such as a single piece of wire and what happens when a magnet moves past it, now if we believe we will have to understand all of quantum physics to understand SM's device then why does he keep referring to a single piece of wire?. Why did Collins state the device was 99% cork as if most all of the device we see was simply filler?. We will believe what we want to believe as it relates to our individual perception of the world around us however I can't help but think this is very easy. Somewhere along the line we have made everything so complicated that it makes no sense at all and personally I have found my greatest insights were always right in front of me I just refused to look. Maybe we need to go back to the beginning, go back to a single piece of wire? but nobody wants to go there because we believe we know everything there is to know concerning it ... I'm thinking not. AC « Last Edit: 2012-10-13, 22:05:00 by tao »

tao	Re: SM Videos Torrent Download « Reply #66 on: 2012-10-10, 21:11:47 »
Group: Guest	Quote from: Grumpy on 2012-10-10, 20:44:45 A preliminary test of the effect requires: 1. high voltage square wave gen. 2. passive delay for one wire of the bifilar coil 3. the bifilar coil 4. a bias coil fed by a dc supply, fitted around the bifilar 5. collector through center of bifilar (one pass or several should show something) (expect current pulses, not DC ) for the delay,we are ooking at something like: 50pf and 4.4 microHenries 20 and 11 these values for 220ns delay Cool. « Last Edit: 2012-10-13, 22:04:41 by tao »

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Re: SM Videos Torrent Download « Reply #67 on: 2012-10-10, 21:28:13 »

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Quote from: allcanadian

I think many times people take things too far, they
make things much more complicated than they need
to be or than they actually are.
A long time ago I learned an important lesson about
perception...

That is HEAVY stuff that you've written! The illusion
is indeed all around us.

SM had no idea where the energy his devices output
came from. All he knew was that somehow he had
the "gift" to make it happen.

The True Source of that power is very deceptive
for a certainty. It is also the source of the Illusion.

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Grumpy	Re: SM Videos Torrent Download « Reply #68 on: 2012-10-10, 21:52:33 »
Group: Tinkerer Hero Member Posts: 3948 tExB=qr	Quote from: ION on 2012-10-10, 20:59:37 I wonder if EM or Marco would come forward and put this issue to rest. G: Do you have a sketch of what you are proposing. A picture is worth a thousand words. Schematics nail things down, even if preliminary, and gives us something to ponder. I have a block diagram, but can add a little extra to it.

Grumpy	Re: SM Videos Torrent Download « Reply #69 on: 2012-10-10, 22:52:36 »
Group: Tinkerer Hero Member Posts: 3948 tExB=qr	BLOCK DIAGRAM FOR FIRST TEST edit: I am under the impression that SM saw some sort of effect that led to a working device, rather than a source of power straight away. So, a test of the hypothesized way to see this "effect" is presented. ------------------------ SM Videos Torrent Download TPU TEST SETUP 1.png (11.23 kB, 960x720 - viewed 861 times.)

Allcanadian	Re: SM Videos Torrent Download « Reply #70 on: 2012-10-11, 00:28:00 »
Hero Member Posts: 2735	@tao Quote Now, please do recall my post and what SM said, that I had the secret. Who cares about me per se, I mention it because of my post which is about abrupt application of a voltage to a wire and the abrupt removal of said voltage to a wire... I would agree, I was doing high voltage experiments in which the goal was to supress pre-ionization and produce very sharp impulses. I had a 6" stainless sphere on the end of a conductor and on every impulse a sharp "sssst" noise was heard as if the sphere was constricting followed by a resonant kind of pinging noise. A person could actually feel the impulses from a few feet away and at the end of the test runs there was a black powdery residue covering the area which was not from arcing of any kind. This was not a spark gap it was simply a SS sphere on the end of a conductor attached to a device designed to produce the smallest rise and fall times possible. Quote Well, you DO NOT get the same 'normal magnetic field' as above because you hardly have current, but, I guarantee, you 'can' have a 'emanation' for said wire, and that, when done right, this can be thought of as OU. I say that this is what SM really meant, based on many factors, one being him saying I had the secret... I recently read a science article where it was proven that most of what we know concerning contact electrification is false, the surface is a charge mosaic of opposite charges and some of the charge transfer is in fact from physical material. It turns out the surface of most materials may be a "fluid" suspended at the surface and consisting of a mosaic of positive and negative charges which lends credibility to the concept of radiant matter as highly charged matter is transfered and may be ejected. AC « Last Edit: 2012-10-11, 02:12:02 by allcanadian » --------------------------- Comprehend and Copy Nature... Viktor Schauberger “The first principle is that you must not fool yourself and you are the easiest person to fool.”― Richard P. Feynman

tao	Re: SM Videos Torrent Download « Reply #71 on: 2012-10-11, 00:41:25 »
Group: Guest	Quote from: Grumpy on 2012-10-10, 22:52:36 BLOCK DIAGRAM FOR FIRST TEST edit: I am under the impression that SM saw some sort of effect that led to a working device, rather than a source of power straight away. So, a test of the hypothesized way to see this "effect" is presented. I'd say that pretty much sums it up in the simplest manner(testing) possible, as an overview. « Last Edit: 2012-10-13, 22:04:09 by tao »

BEP	Re: SM Videos Torrent Download « Reply #72 on: 2012-10-11, 00:59:46 »
Group: Guest	Nice to see a real discussion. So, do these observations play a role? 1. Many of the magnets he applies have metal on two sides. The cupped magnet he swipes the small glass table top tpu with and now the LTPU small toroids (magnet isn't cupped but is sandwiched between two metal layers ? 2. He applies the magnet to the small toroids of this newer seen LTPU in the same orientation as he did with the refrig magnet to the first TPU (at the side where the coil ends meet). Of course, this means nothing if you think he is using the magnets to operate a reed switch I always wonder about the difference between static charge and current. If you provide the correct magnetic field to a conductor only having static charges applied - would those static charges then flow as current?

poynt99

Re: SM Videos Torrent Download « Reply #73 on: 2012-10-11, 01:43:08 »

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It's not as complicated as it may seem...

OMG, Brian Collins seems to be one of the biggest bullshitters I've ever seen, and I've met a few.

If it doesn't come from Steven's own lips, I wouldn't believe a word Brian says.

I agree Steven Mark is not a people person, and that's why Brian was really brought in; he has the gift of gab (bullshit) and smooth talking as a means to sway potential investors. Obviously this Peter and Steve didn't follow through with what appeared to be an agreement to move forward with Brian.

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Re: SM Videos Torrent Download « Reply #74 on: 2012-10-11, 03:21:14 »

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@poynt99,

I listened to the whole video yesterday and I agree, Brian is such a bullshitter and doesn't know how the TPU works. In fact Steven said that Brian doesn't know what makes the TPUs tick, and Steven, doesn't know what makes Brian tick. remember that quote?

@tao,

so Marco gave you the stevenDmark password as well LOL, that was fun, I think I chimed in on a post, but the others posted some very insightful comments, which could be from SM. I think that was Steven's way of hiding in the "noise" so he could not be detected by the cyber trackers. Somewhere in those postings are his real postings. That's the nature of this effort, there are active agents monitoring the forums to try and disrupt or rather corrupt the information he provided, but the smarter folk will see right through the "fog".

Bottom line, these devices are very simple tuned devices, like a tuning fork. The motion of the tuned wire interacts with the electromagnetic fields and gives rise to a dynamo effect that causes "electron flow in a wire" to quote SM words. This stuff has been know for at least a hundred years -- move a wire through a magnetic field and you get current flow! period. The part that is not know by many is the exact frequency or frequencies, and exactly how to configure the device to tap those frequencies, create the revolving effect (turbine), etc...

It is apparent that the LTPU is an advanced model that no longer relies on MECHANICAL TUNING by cutting off small pieces of the collector wire to tune it to the correct length, but it is tuned rather by mixing 2 frequencies which are very close together, and a beat frequency is produced that excites the collector and moves it to produce the so called energy "conversion" process or generation. So, the LTPU is tuned electronically instead of mechanically like the earlier devices. All that is really needed is two frequencies spaced apart by the correct amount, assuming one has the necessary electronic skills and the patience to tune, and most importantly, lives at a favorable "hot spot" location! LOL

EM