Talking about the official 10-coiler YouTube clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nA2KtZ45nXATo quote John Bedini:
"This is the little coil from the back that is going to light it up, so that's the
excess energy just from the mechanical on the wheel."
"If you gear this correctly you can run a water pump all day long. (...) And you are going to
pump it for no extra energy in this deal."
Let's take a look at the idea that mechanical energy output from the motor is "free." The implication being that when you run the 10-coiler, the power consumption from the source battery and the charging power going into the charging battery will be the same if you have a mechanical load on the wheel or not. In other words, the motor can give you free mechanical power output and still charge batteries at the same rate with no increase in current draw from the source battery. I am being a bit simplistic here because we know the RPMs will drop, but you get the point. Keep in mind that John Bedini has never (from what I am aware) further qualified what he means by "free mechanical output power."
What is a distinct possibility is that an experimenter will put a mechanical load on the motor and see the current consumption from the source battery go down and then be utterly convinced that the Bedini motor is outputting mechanical power for free.
Nothing could be further from the truth and experimenters have to be very careful not to jump to conclusions.
What you can say with 100% confidence before you start the test is that there is a very good chance that the overall electrical impedance of the motor (from the point of view of the source battery) is going to change when you add a mechanical load to the motor. You don't even know if the impedance is going to increase or decrease.
If the motor's impedance increases, the current consumption will go down. If the motor's impedance decreases, the current consumption will go up.
We also know with 100% confidence that the speed of the wheel will go down when you add a mechanical load to it.
Therefore when you add a mechanical load, the rotor slows down, and the pulse rate will decrease, and this will tend to reduce the current consumption of the motor. This will increase the effective impedance of the motor.
At the same time, when the rotor slows down, the transistor switches on for a longer time for each pulse, and this will tend to increase the current consumption of the motor. This will decrease the effective impedance of the motor.
Which one will predominate as you start adding a mechanical load to the motor? I don't know the answer to that, but at least I know one of several parameters that I want to look at to get a complete picture of what is going on, and that parameter is the source battery current consumption.
So you have to ask yourself the question, "Why should the mechanical output of the rotor be free?" Personally, I can't think of a single reason for this to be the case. However, you can always run bench tests to check for this. What kind of tests should you run to check to see if the allegations of free mechanical power output from the Bedini motor are true or not? What parameters do you need to look at while the motor is running load-free and while the motor is under mechanical load?
A little sidebar:
"This collects energy, and then sends the potential energy to the secondary battery, so that
the battery charges itself."
If you want to be picky, this sentence is an oxymoron. You are charging the battery so the battery can charge itself?
To be more liberal, we are assuming that Bedini is alleging that you will get more energy out of the charging battery than you put into if from the inductive current pulsing charging method. That sounds a lot less glamorous than "radiant charging" but it's a lot more descriptive. I will repeat that someone would have to produce data that clearly demonstrates that this is in fact true but I am not aware of any. In a previous posting I outline why this would not be true and challenge Bedini experimenters to run their own tests to prove or disprove this claim themselves.
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