so - a new film 'Newman'

Duncan

so - a new film 'Newman' « on: 2016-12-23, 04:25:29 »

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It seems there is a new film released about one of the hero's of the free energy world who figures prominently in P J Kelly's Tome
http://www.energeticforum.com/redirect-to/?redirect=https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N658PX2?ie=UTF8&tag=maimounas-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B01N658PX2
attracted by news of the film I researched Joe Newman and his machine a little more than I have done hitherto, Including the guy he contracted to assist and promote his work who persists with the development and constructions - 'Geoffrey Miller'.
As a recap on the work of Joe and the further work of Geoffrey I offer these few short video's for your consideration
http://www.energeticforum.com/redirect-to/?redirect=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azWaQj8wtNs

http://www.energeticforum.com/redirect-to/?redirect=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2mCM10x4ME

http://www.energeticforum.com/redirect-to/?redirect=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzhSBO5MSQU&t=74s

You may remember that in his frustration Joe also wrote a book on the spiral action of Magnetic fields Its available for your Inspection

http://www.free-energy-info.com/Newman1.pdf

The spiral action of the magnetic fields are reminiscent and in agreement with the experiments of Edward Leedskalnin 'magnetic current' - not much to be said about them is there ? do the experiments and the results are as the man predicts. His book is available for your consideration

http://www.shamanicengineering.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Magnetic-Current-Ed-Leedskalnin.pdf

Its all to easy to ridicule Joe and his effort, Indeed there's a huge army of extremely well paid bureaucrats and agents that have done exactly that. We now know that tptb (the powers that be) have threatened, murdered, and involved countries and continents in wars all over 'energy and control'
These two short documentaries outline the basics of that control of your education and the part energy plays (If your not already horribly aware)

https://youtu.be/ySnk-f2ThpE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDPoZJNT1eM

Of course we have all been 'schooled' in the 'no free lunch' Rockefeller and Carnegie methods but as far as Newman's concerned keep in mind that his machines were tested and verified again and again by professors and engineers and although its a class act - they were possibly as good or equal to anything this forum has to offer. These were researchers who used there own names, addresses , and put their own reputations and qualifications on the line . They were not anonymous nay sayers known as tincan,sparklecola, teddybear or some such bollix,
They were forced to make an abrupt about turn in their comprehension as they were rudely educated and forced to accept the evidence presented.
They of course started just as stupid as any other tincan or teddybear its just they had to shut their mouths for once, pull their swelled Ostrich heads out of the sand and take a hard look around.
-- So l took a look around myself (In a positive way) looking for the theory of operation I think I have at least some of it for you. I think I can explain with the exception of the longitudinal wave action on a battery what makes this thing tick, (or rather turn). Perhaps some may like to bandy this about with me and then help to engineer a build ?
First consider this historic radio component and notice its similarity to Newmans windings. The component is known as a 'Varicoupler' and in 'ye olden days' it fulfilled the job of both coil and capacitor in a modern day AM radio. It brought a circuit to resonance.

http://www.atwaterkent.info/Articles/AKRA0512.pdf

being air cored on a large former it had a pretty high Q factor and for the pre 'super het' era was quite selective. IMHO it is no accident Newman uses this circuit and to be effective for the brief moment of ' strike' (be it limit switch or reed switch), the battery see's pretty much a resonant circuit . all be it a series resonant circuit (which is very important) .
for the understanding of this from a Radio aspect a resonant parallel (Tank) circuit results in maximum impedance and so maximum voltage and minimum current across the 'Tank' . any 'Perfect' resonant circuit be it series or parallel will consume no energy what so ever . p = VI cos Φ (even though thats true RMS I'm sure you get the picture) However we are considering a magnetic circuit here and MMF is only dependent on two variables - Number of turns and current
ℰ= −L di/dt and L is directly proprtional to turns
which is why series resonance is so important and why logically its series resonance we are interested in. maximum current minimum voltage.
Joe Newman typically used over a mile of wire on the top and bottom windings of his machines - resulting in both high resistance (very low I*2R loss) and a very high inductance. both top and bottom coil being connected together in series, after all the supply only see's one inductor - (inductors in series are simply additive like resistors.) neither does the inductance care which direction each coil is wound in.
So -- you have the full magnetic effect at full current using no energy (R loss accepted) because its fed into a series resonant circuit .
Its like an explosion slapping that rotor around for no little energy cost. The high current is available because of the exceptionally high instantaneous back emf - The back emf has the very same effect on batteries most of us know so well from ######'s (he who must not be named?) SSG and charging circuits but being an untaught longitudinal wave effect no one ever can or does explain. -- Its not supposed to exist! but we all know it does and magic happens to batteries!
some may have questions concerning a square wave /pulsed DC / impulse being capable of resonance - again here's goto luc demonstrating resonance, understand that regardless of waveform or duty the resultant is resonance , (within reason)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJQvqTpBdiQ
This resonance is of course a mathematical concept and a point at which instruments fail if not in the world of the transverse wave . (the infinite remainder of a sine wave is the cosine and visa versa) - we consider and leave our comfortable dimension altogether ohms law doesn't apply and the usual instruments are - Usless! back emf and dielectric breakdown don't obey ohms law !
don't ya just love the Aussies -- here's my special technology - "a bolt"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voHGyN93Ru4

As I've worked on various COP>1 systems over the years I've hatched a hypothosis of what might be occuring at series resonance. I have read elsewhere that DC is actually a changing quantity all be it infinatly fast - The equivelent of 'hetrodyne' is going on here. I understand at high frequency Tesla discoved 'stinging rays' in this realm
comments - and design help ? I have no thirst for windings thousands and thousands of turns with tiny wire which is whats really required , I was thinking perhaps an MOT secondary ? any idea's folks ? I see little point in me, or anyone else spending thousands of $$$-£££s to build one or two of these things simply to end up yet another 'Newman' or 'Miller' with a few facinating machines mouldering in a shed. - I thank you for watching and reading my thoughts and hope you grasp my direction I would welcome any idea's that could make this an 'off the shelf' build many people could experiance,test and so confirm the results. - kind regards Duncan

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Re: so - a new film 'Newman' « Reply #1 on: 2016-12-23, 10:12:50 »

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Noted.

Duncan	Re: so - a new film 'Newman' « Reply #2 on: 2016-12-23, 14:06:33 »
Group: Moderator Hero Member Posts: 704	Hi TK -No idea what you have noted I hope its something useful constructive. meanwhile I hope you enjoyed the the video's and info. kindest regards and Merry Christmas Duncan --------------------------- How many more to be .threatened, abused murdered, Their research in the hands of evil corporations intent on total control ? http://dnp.s3.amazonaws.com/b/b9/suppressed.pdf whilst we know little .. friends remember, In the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed man is king. D. Erasmus

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Re: so - a new film 'Newman' « Reply #3 on: 2016-12-23, 19:22:23 »

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So here we sit. On our hands. Witnesses to the victims of a monstrous event of TPTB.
This looks like Juan Bed-ini and Mueller are correct. Their circuits are aided with motors to help spin the mass.
Newman has matched the mass with spin to enable just a 'Kick' to keep it moving.
Steven Mark stated the same.

Pick the velocity and integrate the timing of little push is all any of the devices need.
The little push is a square wave. Nothing technical like all the blather has been used to self promote instead of device promoting.
The little push is the kick. Inertial pulse balancing.
Gogyropower.com domain is for sale.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fc-UYykL64k

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Duncan	Re: so - a new film 'Newman' « Reply #4 on: 2016-12-24, 10:55:02 »
Group: Moderator Hero Member Posts: 704	Giantkiller - Thanks for taking the time to read and watch I'm obliged- As I understand it yes you have the bones of it . It fact the latest batch of machines to hit the pages seem to be cousins. The QEG taken from the WITTS generator and the Creative science fueless engine a combination of all . It is a little unfortunate that in the COP>1 arena folks asking for money, any money at all for R&D are all branded as a charlatans, Of course there are many, and also many more paid by TPTB to do exactly that and also to infest free energy forums with nay sayers and negative theory. As you have now seen at a physiological level we are carefully packed into a small box. I beg to differ with the idea of us sitting impotently. Gradually whilst reading each other, building a little, and sharing a 'collective consciousness' is starting to spread. It spreads far beyond each of us, In short people are starting to wake up. Meanwhile Giantkiller you might like to take a look at the engine which is one of these downloads and compare the HT, resonant impulse technology which I suggest is also at the heart of Newmans machine - its common ground. also described as 'an explosion' http://www.softpro.ee/creativescience/ As you have seen the phenomenal control, over psychology,finance,education in fact all aspects of life TPTB hold you can probably understand how the status quo is held. an example -- A member of this forum quite familiar with Stan Meyer once suggest that his approach was naive, In so much as he ended up murdered perhaps so, however how many people do you think 'woke up' because of his actions? PJ Kelly for one and how many people has he dragged out of a deep slumber? and so it goes on I don't believe Stan was naive, he was well aware of the risks 'TPTB' and the mental game. Like a first world war solder he clenched his teeth and went over the top giving the best account he could knowing the chances of survival were next to nothing. in 2016 we've just watched 'big oil' and the grip they devised on education - Here's Stan in 1993 he's well aware of TPTB https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZM22750v5M He was well aware he was likely to be 'toast' As I explained his work triggered PJ Kelly into action. Patrick watched a program shown on a newly opened TV channel in the UK which escaped the censorship radar . It was later broadcast across the USA - This program https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_5tpAWl7IY was there nationwide outrage at this public execution of Stan? huge crowds storming the white house and CIA offices? were TPTB rounded up and kicked out of court? - well I'm sure everyone's seen the little clip of Stan driving his little bug https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcNFgDuEYUg Alas he soon discovered 'the oil embargo' and the war that preceded it was all engineered by Kissinger . but what of the outraged public? well these guys think his murder is hilarious not just a chuckle - a belly laugh! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuH72G5qXow Land of the free? free of your mortal coil may be! I guess we get just what we deserve. - As for resonance of a DC pulse . Its a lost technology, not volts -not amps - A very young Eric Dollard locks horns with some of this suppressed technology. or at least the section thats the effective equivalent of radio - Wireless (no perfect sine waves here rather perfect impulses) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7oAlvaC8ls&t=2092s What makes this energy so difficult to use is we do not have the mathematics. we have no equivalent of 'ohms law' and no measuring equipment that sees it. At best we are forced to watch puzzled as motors turn and work is done whilst batteries recharge themselves. so IMHO giantkiller re all the complexity - It is at the sub atomic level and what it leads to. There is effectively another whole electrical theory about which we know next to nothing. mind you any honest teacher will say the same thing about the electrical system we are using now , whats electricity? No idea all I have done is engineered along the lines of what we don't know and whats obviously been suppressed . Which surprise surprise sign posts many machines as you observe, that do work . Whats next ? Its a psychological war, folks need help to see through the fog. most avenues have been predicted and blocked . ask for a few thousand £s /$s for research and see how far you get. develop and sell ? well you've seen what happens to those poor sods, haven't you ? . The only road I see open is to make something cheap and easy with adapted off the shelf components that is undeniably COP >1 that folks can build. The Rotoverter guys tried until the arson,threats, and murder attempts bit with a vengeance. So did Romero UK with the Muller variation machine you mentioned until he too was 'visited'. Most folks are far to busy just keeping a roof over their head and food on the table to puzzle out they are sending their children and Grandchildren to Hades. whilst the rest are very busy buying things, - buying things they don't need! George Carling sums it up very quickly in a short droll hard hitting clip - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJ4SSvVbhLw He who's name must not be mentioned - JB - had quite an impact with the SSG after all, and only a small percentage of guys stumbled onto a self runner . However virtually everyone saw battery magic happen! ( I wonder if John B might have a Posthumous reprieve ??) kind Regards Duncan « Last Edit: 2016-12-24, 11:41:12 by Duncan » --------------------------- How many more to be .threatened, abused murdered, Their research in the hands of evil corporations intent on total control ? http://dnp.s3.amazonaws.com/b/b9/suppressed.pdf whilst we know little .. friends remember, In the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed man is king. D. Erasmus

ion

Re: so - a new film 'Newman' « Reply #5 on: 2016-12-24, 19:23:46 »

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Dear Duncan;

In approximately the mid 1980's, someone who knew my interest in alternative energy concepts gave me a video tape of Joe Newman on the Johnny Carson show. This was it, (I thought), finally someone outside of standard engineering practice had cracked the code of magnetism and went on to build and demonstrate the "Holy Grail" of physics.

I was hooked, and watched the video over and over, finally plunking down $40 plus shipping and handling to purchase his quite heavy hardcover book. I set out to build a replica based on all the info in the book, including the construction of the special commutator. I read the book cover to cover several times to be sure I didn't miss anything.

Then I took several days off from my daytime engineering job to build the device. I would need large magnets, lots of copper wire, a former, bearings, and the special commutator. After considerable expense the device was finally completed.

After the unit was constructed and tested, I was disappointed that it not only performed poorly, not nearly as good as an off the shelf motor, additionally, it always consumed more than could be recovered.

I tried many different configurations of timing, magnet positions etc. but the results, despite countless hours of experimenting, were always disappointing.

As the years went by I continued to follow Joe Newman's work, which was now turning into more of a prophet / evangelist / suppressed inventor act.

It was doubly disappointing to see Joe degrade into what started out as a curious inventor to become later a showman.

Now you can say I am part of TPTB just spreading disinformation, but as far as I know, copper wire, magnets, and Joe Newman's book have not been banned from public use. I have never been visited by anyone to cease and desist from work in this area, although I'm sure in certain cases it does occur.

I know of no one that has constructed a stand alone Newman motor that can be looped to run on it's own and deliver excess energy. No one that I know that is skilled in the art of measurement has shown that a Newman motor generates an excess energy greater than that supplied to the input.

I think Joe has a few good ideas about the apparent gyroscopic nature of the magnetic "particles" but that's about it.

So, everyone is of course welcome to their opinion. I was once a believer, now a watchful and curious skeptic regarding Newman's work.

Kind Regards
ION

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giantkiller	Re: so - a new film 'Newman' « Reply #6 on: 2016-12-24, 19:40:00 »
Group: Elite Experimentalist Hero Member Posts: 1593 Frequency equals matter...	Interesting. I, like we all here have seen most of these. I went on to watch other Newman builds and can see how the mind can easily be tricked into complacency. A number of Newman builders wanted to reproduce the motor on extremely small budgets and parts. As a motor they work. BUT what was missed in extreme mental prejudice was the size of the armature mass. This weight is necessary for the gyroscopic action to happen to aid in the resonant spin to happen. Case in point: All Newman's own motors had to be hand started because of the armature weight. We all know what this means. And this can also point back to the German UFO bell design that spun a ring of mercury at a resonate rate. My, how wonderous! Oh my. I just had an epiphany. The spinning of the mercury would cause it to squash out against the insides. At the right speed the mass would want to form back to a equilibratic shape, normal. But the centrifugal force would want another shape.The idea here is working with nature, balancing between the centrifugal force with static at rest. This would be seen as pressure domains rotating within the mercury. If anybody has or knows of a flux field display program that shows the field under spin or pressure, whether centrifugal or centripetal, I would greatly appreciate. Probably very expensive. The only other way to show this would be to show spinning spirographic patterns at different rates superimposed on each other. The eclipses at the circumference would show the node anti node activity. The input parameters would be circumference, number of frequencies, and frequencies themselves. I had a sound program that would allow the mixing of various frequencies. I applied the Solfegios to chords and produced some really mental environment altering effects. One set would block out all external noise and cause a thinking trance to occur. When the audio was shut off, the eye focus would vibrate as a deprecating ringing. But during the application the thought process is a greater level of acuity. Anyway, I have seen a number of things 'work' when tuned correctly. And I have have seen things 'work' under chaotic stress. Dollard covers both of these in extreme detail through out his time. This guy nails it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8VdsWn-Q9Y --------------------------- http://purco.qc.ca/ftp/

Duncan	Re: so - a new film 'Newman' « Reply #7 on: 2016-12-25, 11:35:52 »
Group: Moderator Hero Member Posts: 704	Ion and Giantkiller - Oh no Ion constructive observation is very much appreciated and I certainly don't regard it as typical of a naysayer attack which is simply flat out denial and a total refusal to accept the possibility that there is an as yet unidentified unmapped energy source whilst demanding this unmapped energy be presented in known electrical quanta- that can't be done - yet The science and mathematical language simply isn't available. I can easily believe you have made a very nice machine that didn't work very well and didn't go COP>1. Oh how I wish I had a little money for every thing of that variety I've managed to construct I'd be quite rich ! Its very difficult to build and engineer anything when your trying to tune to something and you don't know what the hell it is. It takes a leap of faith and then a lot of luck and its thousands of more times probable that the equation is going to be wrong simply because you don't know what the equation is. By combining the observations and conclusions of several builders of different (but similar) machines I believe I have lifted the veil quite a bit on what it is that is actually being tuned in order to attract natural abundant energy and the steps that have to be taken. I hope Ion you still have the pieces of your machine tucked up in the back of a cupboard for, with a few taps and a bang here and there in the right place it may yet sparkle. well I hope so or I'll be just as dissapointed as you' It isn't specifically a 'Newman' I consider but rather a hybrid as you'll see Interesting video giantkiller as you say 'nailed' however I believe quite apart from the gyroscopic action at the sub atomic level both Newman and Leedskalnin comment on, there is another electrical energy transfer which needs addressing. As a teenager I was lectured by prof Eric Laithwaite. after he was 'black balled' by academia following this series of Christmas lectures which effectively ended his career. A kind straight spoken gent it might be nice to re- visit his Christmas lecture of 30 odd years ago on the gyroscope even though its designed for children . (those kids are probably retired prof's themselves now) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpCEJxO6V9g I too agree with Humpty Dumpty! Just whilst we dwell on weights in motion I recalled this contraption from a few years back which intrigued me. and I've got to confess it looks a lot more interesting than a common or garden wheel as something to pulse. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPe1zB5JQmU It looks impressive but I don't see input and output measurements anywhere which as the song Say's 'That don't impress me much'.because it would settle any argument at a stroke. regardless it doesn't answer the extra energy question in similar pulsed machines Adam's Muller ect although any extra would be welcomed of course! energy transform of the longitudinal wave by resonant impulse into a fractal crystal structure is where I believe this is broadly heading . in a nutshell to quote "After my 35 years of experiments with the term "free energy" and "over unity machines". This is what it turns out to be "Reactive power" and that's it". JB To prove and demonstrate that statement, to quantify and try to engineer it to a point where its COP>1 every time and not just now and again for a lucky few. thats the ambition I'd like you to share with me and assist if you can. kind regards Duncan « Last Edit: 2016-12-25, 14:45:29 by Duncan » --------------------------- How many more to be .threatened, abused murdered, Their research in the hands of evil corporations intent on total control ? http://dnp.s3.amazonaws.com/b/b9/suppressed.pdf whilst we know little .. friends remember, In the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed man is king. D. Erasmus

giantkiller	Re: so - a new film 'Newman' « Reply #8 on: 2016-12-26, 03:56:13 »
Group: Elite Experimentalist Hero Member Posts: 1593 Frequency equals matter...	Aye, Duncan you have an eye for strategic insight. I have another example where technique is abashed with techno. I.e. the rotoverter. The 'Next' inventor with the spanish sounding name took the original side by side generator and motor and made it better but putting both units axially, same shaft. Then he spent years applying electronic prowess and demonstration hawking to appeal to the newer masses. His was better because he could show technological ability applied. He has failed since ad infinit um. Why? Because the original side by side version relied on resonant momentum. The ghost in the machine if you will... http://humansarefree.com/2011/11/free-energy-howard-johnson-magnet-motor.html I hear crickets and jeering crowd at the same time. --------------------------- http://purco.qc.ca/ftp/

Duncan	Re: so - a new film 'Newman' « Reply #9 on: 2016-12-26, 12:36:20 »
Group: Moderator Hero Member Posts: 704	Howard Johnson? The rotoverter guys certainly didn't fail. a very skilled team . they were threatened , attacked , arson was used , loved ones and family members put in danger. transport vandalized, family pets killed. and so it went on and on. just the same old story. We are trained to consider all these researchers charlatans. A lot of charlatans are introduced by tptb to make that a fate'accompli . Ion was annoyed by Newman's showman approach in later years . I'm a little more pragmatic the whole 'free energy research' arena has been reduced to a circus -' The free energy circus' by the so called 'elite' Newman was validated by top flight scientists but like most folks no doubt he had bills to pay to keep a roof over his head and food on the table as well as research and building costs. lBack to the wall no doubt like so many others he was forced to be a showman -and join the circus - but lets be very clear the faults collectively ours not his !! --------------------------- How many more to be .threatened, abused murdered, Their research in the hands of evil corporations intent on total control ? http://dnp.s3.amazonaws.com/b/b9/suppressed.pdf whilst we know little .. friends remember, In the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed man is king. D. Erasmus

Duncan	Re: so - a new film 'Newman' « Reply #10 on: 2016-12-26, 13:09:04 »
Group: Moderator Hero Member Posts: 704	Ion - a little tongue in cheek from one who has never specifically attempted a 'Newman' build I hope you won't be offended if I do my very best to explain just why despite all your very best efforts and determination your machine didn't work and the nature of the equation that is missing. obviously if something has to be built and you don't know the mathematics of operation then everything that can be taken as a variable must be given a very hard stare and much consideration. Just as giantkiller says scale,size,flywheel effect, the size of load. all of these are variables that are very important however they are variables that are measurable and that equations are available for . (The work of Chalkalis accepted). I would like you Ion to review again this video of Geoffrey's but pause it on the coils . notice that conscientious Geoffrey has marked up his coils with the measured values, It is a small machine and yet requires what looks to me like a 1900 turn 25 ohm coil as the coils are in series thats 50 ohms of wire phew ! but what I would expect. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzhSBO5MSQU I guess what I want you to take on board here is a huge amount of wire and winding is required to make this concept perform as advertised. That winding also has to be matched to something and its that 'something' that isn't explained and which is the likely culprit as to why your machine didn't play ball. From the video's I posted earlier you can see that education has been firmly controlled by the elite and that certainly applies to technology and especially everything to do with electrical theory and engineering. It is why all the electrical trades are cast asunder and divided , electrician, Radio, electronics,telecommunications,high voltage grid work, if you should take the time and move out of your particular comfort zone of study you quickly find that some subjects are taught very differently in each trade set, often intentionally obscured with different units and different language used. It takes a deal of determination and some intuition to claw through the fog thats been intensionally put in place and get some of the jigsaw pieces back into place . In giant steps I'm going to try and connect some of these differing technologies back up together so you may glimpse whats supposed to happen. Consider first a Radio system both receiving and transmitting . Transmitting - energy is introduced to to the antenna (watt/secs) the energy is 'transformed' to another form 'the electromagnetic wave' (wavelength) by being introduced to a tunable resonant situation This video should give you something of the flavor of transmission, reception is simply the reverse https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1eE13UXAKs there are two major points I'd like you to firmly grip 1/ resonance transforms one energy type to another and 2/ The action of a radio receiver is the reverse of a transmitter and resonance again transforms wavelength back to familiar volts and amps . however its the exceptional, The hidden the obscured science we need to see and understand in simple logical steps The hide and seek starts here. you have just seen that in the usual radio system a standing wave ratio of 1 is the ambition of the radio operator. your probably aware that a parallel resonant circuit is used for the energy transform. (just think of a crystal set) There is however another system a dramatically different system It does not Transmit into straight cables but spheres, spheres as you perhaps know can only transmit the longitudinal wave. It does not use parallel resonance (The tank circuit) but series resonance. The radio operator does not tune to an SWR of one but an SWR of infinity. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5ZWrjcrPl4 at 1Min 40 sec a sine wave isn't transmitted but an impulse. A new and very different electrical energy every word of this Dollard video is golden it should be watched again and again until what is being said is grasped! BUT with very simple reasoning if there is a very different wave - the electrostatic wave then their must be very different electrical energy available to anything we are familiar with. and if you further take on board that this wave is natural to the universe and abundant it goes some way to explaining why Tesla was silenced and all science and mathematics of the longitudinal wave suppressed. The idea was to firmly close the Gate on 'free energy' and bury the technology. (apart from the black arts of the so called elite of course) a gate we are levering open bit by bit . The natural thought process and mental conditioning we have undergone almost forces us to search about the machine for the extra energy source . determined that there can be 'no free lunch' - Thats a lie its a benevolent planet if its allowed to be. and the real truth is staggering. In certain conditions the battery itself is effectively a wireless receiver. and when tuned to series resonance converts energydirectly to the electrical form we are much more familiar with. Unfortunately fully charged batteries have a very low internal resistance which is exactly contrary to reactive resonant power, That is why JB Newman and others have discovered that flat batteries with a certain amount of Crystallization are essential. here is a phasor diagram of something similar to what might be expected with this circuit . our aim is minimum P and maximum reactive (resonant current)current jQ http://img.bhs4.com/33/8/33862DFC5EF6003639698AD59CB97CA9B0230E10_small.jpg this is why lots of wire is required to reduce the 'real power' and increase reactive power. you might be able to accept the natural fractals occur as batteries discharge and sulphate . The internal resistance of the battery also rises which helps the cause. John B himself for all his brilliance in free energy devices freely admitted he didn't fully understand fully the action inside the battery when his machines were in operation. he did note that when conditioned the plates of the battery changed colour. I joined a forum dedicated only to batteries for a while hoping to learn something of this last link in the chain . I'm happy to share the thinking that resulted . Discharged batteries become crystallized lead acid batteries Crystallized sulphate. batteries which are neither fully charged or discharged might be considered crystallized to some degree (all be it at a sub atomic level) crystals tend to form as so many things do in the natural world as a fractal pattern. http://www.123helpme.com/view.asp?id=35202 It is not well known but fractals have recently been found to be the most phenomenal wide band antenna's ever found . The most efficient energy collectors its possible to have. (DC is actually alternating but infinitely fast) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Xq6h31UCKQ So Ion whats the odds of your build being a/resonant b/matched to the battery c/ high enough resistance d/ The battery being discharged/crystallized enough? there's so many variables I'm sure you agree its a very long shot and alas all these systems introduce instant energy to the battery which in turn quickly alters the dynamic of resonance. The same obviously applies to foolishly trying to loop a machine in the same time dimension. Just as Tesla warned - you must consider the whole circuit. the battery,the source,and the machine, they are all part of the same resonant condition . --------------------------- How many more to be .threatened, abused murdered, Their research in the hands of evil corporations intent on total control ? http://dnp.s3.amazonaws.com/b/b9/suppressed.pdf whilst we know little .. friends remember, In the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed man is king. D. Erasmus

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Re: so - a new film 'Newman' « Reply #11 on: 2016-12-26, 14:51:27 »

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An interesting discussion Duncan. I was particularly intrigued by your idea of a sulphated batteries forming crystals in a fractal pattern. As you know David Bowling discovered by accident a battery that just kept on producing power for several weeks. And some of the rest of us have seen the same thing even if only for a few hours. If I recall you also have seen this phenomenon yourself. Maybe the fractal pattern of the crystals is an explanation for what was going on there.

I was also interested in your ideas about radio transmissions. Having been a ham for many years I do understand pretty well the conventional ideas of radio transmissions. You are probably aware of the new type of antenna called the E-H antenna that supposedly puts out a different type of signal that cuts through the static and weak signal conditions better than a conventional signal. How does that relate to the kind of signal you are discussing? I have not taken time yet to view the video so if that question is answered there just tell me to watch it and I will when I get a chance.

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giantkiller	Re: so - a new film 'Newman' « Reply #12 on: 2016-12-26, 17:26:25 »
Group: Elite Experimentalist Hero Member Posts: 1593 Frequency equals matter...	Action at a distance not through the distance. Gold, it is. Quote It does not use parallel resonance (The tank circuit) but series resonance. The radio operator does not tune to an SWR of one but an SWR of infinity. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5ZWrjcrPl4 at 1Min 40 sec a sine wave isn't transmitted but an impulse. A new and very different electrical energy every word of this Dollard video is golden it should be watched again and again until what is being said is grasped! BUT with very simple reasoning if there is a very different wave - the electrostatic wave then their must be very different electrical energy available to anything we are familiar with. and if you further take on board that this wave is natural to the universe and abundant it goes some way to explaining why Tesla was silenced and all science and mathematics of the longitudinal wave suppressed. The idea was to firmly close the Gate on 'free energy' and bury the technology. (apart from the black arts of the so called elite of course) a gate we are levering open bit by bit . --------------------------- http://purco.qc.ca/ftp/

Duncan	Re: so - a new film 'Newman' « Reply #13 on: 2016-12-26, 18:09:43 »
Group: Moderator Hero Member Posts: 704	Hi Carroll first thank you for reading through and trying to digest what I write here. yes I'm well aware of David Bowlings work. In fact I traveled to the USA for a conference a few years ago and shared a hotel suite with David for the duration. yes what I describe here would answer the questions asked by Davids system and obviously many other pulse systems. I too hold the Hams certificate although I haven't used it for a lot of years. however I can perhaps introduce you to these thoughts a little faster using ham lingo. It actually takes a huge mental shift from the normally accepted 'way thing are' to even consider this tangent . start with this quotation every school child knows . "Energy cannot be created or destroyed, it can only be changed from one form to another" Einstein so there's not a pennyweight more or less energy in our universe than ever there was. and a generator (for example) is simply a very inefficient method of converting that energy back into a form we are familiar with. The modern Radio system we use has a few common traits with Tesla's longitudinal wave system but its a little like looking at an image in a distorting mirror - things are a little different. as you probably know Carroll the exsistance of the longitudinal wave in electrical academia has been suppressed and strenuously denied for many years and its study discouraged despite guys like Prof Dollard and Prof Meyel providing undeniable proof and demonstrations along with some of the mathematical artwork. As you are a ham Carroll you'll pick this up much faster after listening to EPD simply because his speech is on a subject on which he's debatabley the most knowledgeable in the world and a ham speaking to hams I have simply dared to take another logical step forward. in such a way that the jigsaw fits together with effects we have both seen. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHsEzPDVtog The E-H is something of a different concept still using transverse waves. longitudinal wave transmission hasn't been used since the early 1900s. even though its the energy transform at resonance we are really interested in A very big clue to the suppression of longitudinal wave use and the resulting electrical energy comes from research of the early days of telegraph. given a choice of routes the engineers dowsed the ground over the different the routes . as a result most of the time the batteries had to be disconnected to prevent over charging and the telegraph systems were self sustaining. the longitudinal wave transmits from a sphere . In fact its the reverse of how you normally transmit the majority of the signal is transmitted by ground wave. maximum power transfer occurs at an SWR of infinity which is the opposite of todays radio. despite being a ham and trained in electrical work and electronics I had to watch this short EPD video quite a few times before the true significance of what he's saying started to hit home I hope its a bit quicker for you Carroll. one of the sentences that hits home ' transverse waves do not occur naturally in outer space' Kindest regards Duncan --------------------------- How many more to be .threatened, abused murdered, Their research in the hands of evil corporations intent on total control ? http://dnp.s3.amazonaws.com/b/b9/suppressed.pdf whilst we know little .. friends remember, In the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed man is king. D. Erasmus

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Re: so - a new film 'Newman' « Reply #14 on: 2016-12-26, 18:42:02 »

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You are probably aware of the new type of antenna called the E-H antenna that supposedly puts out a different type of signal that cuts through the static and weak signal conditions better than a conventional signal.

Back in the '90s when I listened to Bill Cooper's Hour of the Time
which was broadcast on WWCR at 5.xxx MHz, fading was a big
problem. I had two shortwave receivers; one an inexpensive Sony
that I picked up in Japan and a newer Radio Shack digital. The
Sony had a built in ferrite loop antenna while the Radio Shack receiver
required an external whip or wire. I found that by using both receivers
tuned to the signal the fading problem was solved. When the E field
faded the signal on the Radio Shack was very weak and when the H
field faded the Sony was very weak. Fortunately, When E field faded
H was strong and vice versa, when H faded E was strong. The result
was uninterrupted reception with the audio alternately coming from each
of the two radio speakers.

At Navy Communications Receiver Sites it was common to use two
antennae; one vertically polarized and the other horizontally polarized,
to achieve a similar sort of solution to the fading problem.

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Re: so - a new film 'Newman' « Reply #15 on: 2016-12-26, 19:28:21 »

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Quote from: Duncan on 2016-12-26, 18:09:43

The E-H is something of a different concept still using transverse waves. longitudinal wave transmission hasn't been used since the early 1900s. even though its the energy transform at resonance we are really interested in A very big clue to the suppression of longitudinal wave use and the resulting electrical energy comes from research of the early days of telegraph. given a choice of routes the engineers dowsed the ground over the different the routes . as a result most of the time the batteries had to be disconnected to prevent over charging and the telegraph systems were self sustaining. the longitudinal wave transmits from a sphere .
Kindest regards Duncan

Dear Duncan.

It's been a while, how are you ?

Being an accomplished " Dowser " I can fully understand the above quote taken from your recent post. Now.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x__NQOtrzf0

This is a short video, made because I found the results rather intriguing and worth sharing.

A later video was made showing how there's a DC voltage available between two points.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRz3oTLicT4

My points of Copper earth rod placement were first mapped using my " Rods " , I found it very easy to map both parts of the Hartmann Lines and the Curry Lines but despite living in an Acre of ground I didn't have enough area to fully map the two different sized grids.

I started to work with a gentleman who's pen name is Dragon from EF but my back gave out, he had developed some nice little circuits that were able to light LED's directly from two rods strategically placed.

Food for thought, perhaps ?

Kind regards, Graham.

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Duncan	Re: so - a new film 'Newman' « Reply #16 on: 2016-12-26, 19:58:01 »
Group: Moderator Hero Member Posts: 704	I can imagine that muDped 'necessity is the mother of invention' I've seen it too in the pirate radio station days here in the UK one guys radio with a stick and mine running a long wire . one fading in and the other out, odd listening to it but as you say - effective. got the job done. however what I'm failing to get across here is this isn't radio at all . Its not the electromagnetic wave its nothing to do with radio the maths the science the units, the speed, the wave forms the resonance the energy everything is entirely different where it matters . Tesla could not impress the difference in court 100 odd years ago and not surprisingly I'm struggling a bit too. not that the waveform is of much direct interest in our quest , only in so much as its an abundant and freely available as a natural resource, and with resonance can transform into what we crave - electrical energy. let me pose a question or two for consideration - is a sound wave a longitudinal wave or a transverse wave. I guess the answers pretty easy a loudspeaker cone can only go back and forth and your ear drum is exactly that - a drum. its a percussion instrument ergo a longitudinal wave . (I had to go check ) This secondary school paper agrees so I'm quietly confident thats right' http://www.bbc.co.uk/schools/gcsebitesize/science/add_gateway_pre_2011/radiation/ultrasoundrev1.shtml It may be puzzling some why I am laboring through wireless and radio and transverse and longitudinal waves. allow me to try and explain in simple terms - energy is all around us I'm sure your all familiar with T H Moray he wrote a book 'The sea of energy in which the world floats' an apt description he goes on to describe being able to use this energy as like having a bucket of water under sea and trying to distinguish the water in the bucket from the ocean. or to present it as one of the hardest nuts to crack mathematically - so how do you resolve chaos ? how do you get to the energy ? ---- Perhaps this video will help you see why I think specifically 'longitudinal' resonance with an impulse wave is important ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvJAgrUBF4w Kindest regards Duncan --------------------------- How many more to be .threatened, abused murdered, Their research in the hands of evil corporations intent on total control ? http://dnp.s3.amazonaws.com/b/b9/suppressed.pdf whilst we know little .. friends remember, In the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed man is king. D. Erasmus

Duncan	Re: so - a new film 'Newman' « Reply #17 on: 2016-12-26, 20:52:33 »
Group: Moderator Hero Member Posts: 704	Hi Grumage nice to read you. and I'm sorry to hear your having back troubles its a horrible affliction I suffered with it for a lot of years even with a diet of brufen. Then as a matter of course I had to have gall bladder extracted - touch wood - I was delighted to find it also cleared up the back problems. and yes I have been laying low Grumage flooding and then the business of keeping a roof over my head and food on the table. A lot of friends were totally washed out and it threw me into something of a depression for a while - I don't like it much when the black dogs biting my arse ! yes I got pretty good at dowsing myself Grumage - it was taught at my infants school believe it it or not the farmers used to use it as a matter of course to sex chickens eggs. doubt its taught now probably be classed as not PC or witch craft. I do remember dropping by and reading a bit of your work on the Wesley magnetic engine thing . I tried that thing myself and found it equally tetchy. I meant to inject a video in there but couldn't find it on youtube Bit late now but here it is - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGKGoXD8P5A As for dowsing its also used for medical work and goes under the name of 'Radionics' there are a few centers in the UK and I was reading a little on them, I was surprised to find it takes longer to become certified to operate in radionics than it does to become a GP . there is also a circuit with a hand plate which greatly amplifies the effects of dowsing and radionics now I know your adept I'll try and find it and post it for you. Kindest regards Duncan --------------------------- How many more to be .threatened, abused murdered, Their research in the hands of evil corporations intent on total control ? http://dnp.s3.amazonaws.com/b/b9/suppressed.pdf whilst we know little .. friends remember, In the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed man is king. D. Erasmus

giantkiller	Re: so - a new film 'Newman' « Reply #18 on: 2016-12-27, 03:49:15 »
Group: Elite Experimentalist Hero Member Posts: 1593 Frequency equals matter...	Dollard's rope trick is the best demo to explain longitudinal. --------------------------- http://purco.qc.ca/ftp/

Duncan	Re: so - a new film 'Newman' « Reply #19 on: 2016-12-27, 14:31:19 »
Group: Moderator Hero Member Posts: 704	Eric's several rungs up the ladder from me I'm afraid giankiller in fact I think he's on the roof and I'm still looking for the ladder and when I say I have had to watch that video many times and usually had to think hard about a new concept each time I don't jest, like Michael Grieger who most of us know broadcasting as Sputins says in the comments its a life altering piece of video although I confess I wasn't reduced to tears like Michael (perhaps I've got a much slower learning curve? ) its the next unavoidable yet logical step that causes a real sharp intake of breath . If the radio wave introduced to a parallel resonant tank circuit converts the (electromagnetic wave) energy to electricity in the form of volts and amps which we know and love (because we can engineer the stuff) Then what manor of energy is the conversion result of the longitudinal wave (The electrostatic wave) using series (controlled di-electric breakdown) into a series resonance circuit ? This is the technology the elite have been at great pains to to bury for many many years. Such radio guys who are reading no doubt know the effect of being naughty and broadcasting when the SWR isn't as it should be - splatter all over the bands QRM . and pissed off neighbors as you carve up their very important mind numbing soaps. It does seem as if this 'splatter' is totally random and the authorities who IMHO are over zealous in policing the situation refer to it (in the sweet letters they send) as ' spurious emissions' as a receiver of these spurious emissions (which are not spurious at all) you have no doubt now and again come across phenomenally loud and clear signals from impossibly distant and weak stations, I was listening amazed to the 20 meter band once in the UK on a Yausu FT301-- (yes I'm that old) as the signal of a taxi driver doing trade in Melbourne blasted out of the speaker 5/5, It was loud and clear enough to hear the guys breathing . It is I believe, this now 'taboo, no go area' of 'spurious' that Tesla was transmitting on. although at the time freak skip conditions was the only explanation I could think of. you may know this longitudinal electrostatic wave as the 'E' component. sometimes although very rarely fates conspire to blast this 'no loss' crystal clear signal at you. Carroll (perhaps understandably) is interested in the crystallized battery and fractal aspect so keeping in mind this is a buried and hidden technology that isn't supposed to exist let me try and unearth and re-join a few bits of it, EPD and wireless - Chrystal's and the hidden spinning vortex of electricity. T H Moray and the 'magic Chrystal stone' . First be so kind as to listen very carefully to Eric again as he talks of the impulse wave and particularly the cumulative sequence . In the transform to another energy just as the Radio wave is to electricity so IMHO this sequence is very important to the energy the wireless wave converts to. (and the one thing we know it cant be is electricity as we know it) please watch again betwixt 09 min and 12 min at least https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHsEzPDVtog In fact it could well help if you try to write down the sequence and see if it comes naturally to you, Eric sets us off Fundamental (say 60Hz) 3rd overtone (180 hz) 5th overtone (300 hz) 9th overtone (540 hz) do you see a sequence ? can you continue it ? (Eric's missed the 7th) you may also notice I use the term 'overtone' as opposed to Eric using Harmonic its simply because I was schooled in a different field and the even sequence 60Hz - 120 hz -240 hz for example was considered harmonic and the odd sequence overtones. To try and impress on you the importance of grasping these naturally occurring sequences imagine energy to be rather like a street with even numbered doors on one side and odd numbered doors on the other , (overtones and harmonics) in this strange world if you wish to write and address a letter you must use a different pen to address odd or even numbers. At this point things become very difficult because 120 odd years ago Some nasty people did a bloody good job of hiding odd numbers pen! Eric talks of waves here but there is also the energy transform to consider. It is clear that half of the picture is being intensionally hidden from view, apart from a few scraps that have to be exposed and camouflaged or else important things tptb want to use simply won't work and couldn't be serviced. tptb certainly want you paying for energy - the grid is important to them ! I'm very sorry to drag the radio guys away from their comfort zone Carroll and MuDped but that sequence and all the science was 'killed and hidden' in radio theory to find it again join me in a little bit of HT grid theory. I have to tell you the teaching of this like radio/wireless theory is whilst not total bollix is corrupted and twisted with bits missing to keep that pen well hidden . Never the less you will see that naturally occurring sequence standing out like a sore thumb http://ecmweb.com/content/fundamentals-harmonics I do quote Tesla quite a lot but I confess I don't like reading his patents or trying to unravel things that have been very well stitched up by others. It seems a different world folks because its HT and the grid and the language is different - Its the same stuff embrace it ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHvaYfl5aMA The crystal lattice ! batteries another area tptb strive to have absolute control over is communications. each of us should have a mobile phone by now and all our activities known and logged. our sons daughters and certainly grandchildren will be chipped. because we are making no attempt to stop it happening. it all takes a lot of band space , certainly Radio guys know all about bandwidth and channels . when my eyesight was better than it is now and my patience more elastic I used to home brew transceivers. in order to reach specific frequencies a crystal was made to oscillate at a fundamental frequency and then a harmonic OR an overtone filtered out for use. Its useful to note that the overtone sequence is initiated by series resonance and the harmonic sequence initiated by parallel resonance. just as these pulse machines are designed to be tuned resonant to and then respond to the overtone sequence (This is copy and paste) Overtone crystals are almost always used in special oscillator circuits in which the crystal responds at its series resonant frequency. Standard oscillators (ergo harmonic)operate at their parallel resonant frequencies. (from here if you wish to wade through it) http://www.rfcafe.com/references/popular-electronics/after-class-Quartz-Crystals-january-1957-popular-electronics.htm Let's watch Eric pick up the pace a little more - please watch between 18mins and 20 mins as he tells us of transformers which blow up for no reason . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHsEzPDVtog Oh dear what a shame but why? heres the overtone sequence you have just been studying - 3 5 7 9 this unknown energy which the engineers can't see or measure is going to be concentrated (cumulative) on the center of the overtones at the core of a transformer -- I wonder would you like to put that figure in ? or shall I ? 3 5 6 7 9 now lets simplify to the major Overtones and the cumulative center - 3-6-9 - ah but to reverse the action and discover a transform more efficient and more stable than a crystallized battery . Moray did Grey did. and I suspect an Austrian called Thomas Trawoger who confidently shows how to polarize quartz using HT answers the last step . He achieves this on a huge scale https://www.comsol.com/blogs/piezoelectric-materials-crystal-orientation-poling-direction/ well its time to start considering a build even if there are a few holes in my hopeful conjecture, there's the outline for you. Kindest regards Duncan --------------------------- How many more to be .threatened, abused murdered, Their research in the hands of evil corporations intent on total control ? http://dnp.s3.amazonaws.com/b/b9/suppressed.pdf whilst we know little .. friends remember, In the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed man is king. D. Erasmus

muDped	Re: so - a new film 'Newman' « Reply #20 on: 2016-12-28, 00:20:37 »
Group: Tinkerer Hero Member Posts: 3055	Duncan, You always present some very interesting outlooks. Your mention of Overtones is instructive. It is truly important to understand Overtones and how they relate to Resonant Circuits and Harmonics. Overtones can be quite exciting. My wife has a bowl shaped bell which rests upon a pad and is used with her Butsudan. When she raps it it rings with a very pleasant undulating tone. The spectral content of its ring must be quite complex with numerous Overtones and Harmonics. --------------------------- For there is nothing hidden that will not be disclosed, and nothing concealed that will not be known or brought out into the open.

Duncan	Re: so - a new film 'Newman' « Reply #21 on: 2016-12-28, 07:25:19 »
Group: Moderator Hero Member Posts: 704	It takes quite a bit of digesting MuDped and of course there's quite big gaps as I join the dots, still a lot fits together and it seems the more I study and research the thin threads only get stronger, although the evidence harder to believe even when it happens in front of my eye's . Just as an example considering only the case of Transformers and the lines Eric talks of ,well of course electricians would use a different language to Radio engineers - SWR becomes power factor and where as a Radio engineer is very familiar with resonance the average electrician avoids it like the plague. I know Tesla is thought of by many as being the genius ' of everything' but I don't find that to be quite right. You hear Eric advising on the authors and books to read and digest in order to try and grasp the theory of the longitudinal wave. What he neglected to say is most of them were swept up in the Rockefeller /Andrew Carnegie foundation- education purges. The earliest and possibly most significant of these writers mentioned by Eric is Steinmetz. Of course one place this overtone cumulative effect must appear is on power lines as I hope you will have seen if you had the time spare to scan through my links. So as a point of American and world history I tried spinning the clock back to that era . Back to ' The war of the Currents' ' The Chicago exhibition' 'The Niagara falls hydro project' and very importantly the very first HT AC power line of any appreciable length. Most think the transformers and power line was a huge success - few know now it was for a long time a very expensive highly invested 'white elephant' a system which killed the first assistant who 'was privileged' to throw the switch. It was far from stable. -- consider just who were the players in the 'War of the currents' who were the arch enemies ? Tesla and Westinghouse on one side and Edison GEC and P J Morgan opposing ? regardless thereafter Tesla would not even tolerate being in the same room as Edison and obviously not deal with the hated company GEC. So who Built the Niagara falls power plant and the HT grid to Buffalo 23 miles away ? Tesla and Westinghouse ? This documentary says otherwise with pictures of Tesla's vowed enemies taking their ease around Tesla's pet project and claiming pride of place to boot ! what actually happened ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6lYoKBnPOY To separate the chaff from the wheat here's my take Tesla did design and have the project constructed but the effects of overtones and resonant nodes on a power line was a completely unknown effect ,the project was on it knee's. because of unexpected power surges entering the system. Steinmetz as Eric tells us resolved longitudinal waves on HT power lines and coaxed the project into operation. Tesla of course was no slouch in the learning department and very quickly grasped the reasoning and Mathematics of Steinmetz. Its significant that after the experience he directed his research away from AC RMS research. and worked on impulse technology . a technology the power brokers had to quickly gain control of, education, exchange of information, and particularly Tesla, to supress. as you have seen in a previous documetery free energy or even a sniff of it was certainly not on the agenda. http://www.industrytap.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/richard-box-field.jpg Stealing electric energy from the power lines to light these tubes? The electromagnetic wave ? Or is energy from the ground flowing the other way ? nature trying to neutralize something she sees as an absolute abomination . Kindest regards Duncan PS - MudPed I had a quick read through your link on overtones and harmonics and it really emphases why what Eric says has to be listened to very carefully and many times . The position of overtones and harmonics in a musical context are entirely different and should never be intermixed or confused with the electrical term. (I've got a funny idea we crossed swords here before at some time) but as you have done so I'll to try and explain the difference, key is Eric describing the cumulative of these waveforms as additions 'ad -infinitum' which means in this context forever,infinity- please watch 9M00 -11M00 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHsEzPDVtog Music however historically has been truncated -- Bastardized last time by Izac Newton I was told at school long ago. please try to understand the electrical sequence and the sequence through crystals and on power lines I have been at pains to point out are natural and nature knows no bounds . The keyboard however is a very different kettle of fish. whilst music follows the same sequence I outline its not possible to have an infinite keyboard for each key. It was the convention of the time (when I was taught the subject) to consider the ' redundant' term overtone to apply to what Eric calls 'odd harmonics' when referring to the real natural infinite scale. if your happier with 'odd harmonics' so be it. but please don't ever confuse the musical term 'overtone' with the electrical term overtone . you can see from the endless crystal frequency progression its entirely different. please watch Eric again between 1min00 to 3min00 The reason the musical scale was altered from the natural infinite Pythagoreans scale is clearly explained and why it should never be confused with real life and natural events - Its a compromise https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9N34dawm00 Thanks for reading the work muDped if whats confused you also confused others, then I hope this clears it up - to make it easy for overtones read 'odd harmonics' (but if you read the subject historically that too will be confusing). Regards Duncan « Last Edit: 2016-12-28, 11:10:12 by Duncan » --------------------------- How many more to be .threatened, abused murdered, Their research in the hands of evil corporations intent on total control ? http://dnp.s3.amazonaws.com/b/b9/suppressed.pdf whilst we know little .. friends remember, In the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed man is king. D. Erasmus

Duncan	Re: so - a new film 'Newman' « Reply #22 on: 2016-12-28, 10:54:13 »
Group: Moderator Hero Member Posts: 704	I found this mouldering in the posts and re-post it here for ref . I have no intension of subjecting anyone to winding huge coils least of all me (It gives me hives and a twitch) and I see Ion is just as Jundice about Newman six or seven years ago as he is now and I don't really blame him a great deal of the contruction detail is missing. this description (which I have just read) agree's pretty much word for word with what I describe although 'trashed powerfactor' is not a phrase I am happy to use for resonance. I dont know who's pen this is but I agree - some of his terms at the end I'm not really familiar with - Class C modulation would that be less than 180 deg like a class C amplifier perhaps ? meaning switching time? 2D magnetics - at 90 deg? Think about the Newman motor the "Giant Hotdog" He has converted a low voltage stack PP3 battery source into an ELF pulse through large inductor. The inductor the coil of the motor prevents current flowing so the power factor has been trashed it now like a PF almost 0 http://www.josephnewman.com/ yes i know he is as Loopy as a fruit cake but he worked this out decades ago! "The energy machine is proof that the strength of the motor's magnetic field is dependent upon the VOLTAGE --- NOT the CURRENT! For the first time, Joseph Newman demonstrates the energy machine that turns a 1,650-lb rotary and powers a 375-lb positive displacement pump using LESS THAN 20 WATTS! In the video demonstration, the energy machine produces phenomenal speed, torque, and continuously pumps water using LESS THAN 20 WATTS!" In so doing now you have a machine which is basically KVARS due to current < very small on the batteries yet in circulation is > massive together with a circulating voltage of hundreds or thousands of volt from a few PP3 batteries. The central motor contact ARCS violent on switching. WHERE does the machine gets its power from? The answer is a PF 0 trashed power factor conditions create large magnet forces from the ambient. So powerful in fact a magnet 12ft away hanging on a thread spins violently! This magnetic energy is converted to motor torque which provides more HP out then the power IN. This energy came from the ambient due to scaler PF 0 electrostatic field causing disruption to local electron spin. The misalignment is over corrected in the windings and iron cores where internal spin domain currents create a magnetic field as a result. Anytime you have a moving charge you get a magnetic field. So as Newman motor works so slow its the best visual example to see how to convert VARS to magnetic force then use that to create shaft power far in excess of the PP3 batteries. As also per Don Smith teachings a HV source can become electrostatic (VARS) and THEN modulated to create a powerful alternating magnetic field. Use this FREE magnetic field for the source of your energy and NOT the EM fields. Alike his 1 to 4 copy Tesla tower device. As TPU its the free magnetic rotational field which does all the work. The conditions to create a powerful magnetic field in rotation WITHOUT power banging fets is the key! Class C modulated electrostatic fields is the answer. If the coils have a rotational 3D 2 layer magnetic force spinning it only takes another standard coil placed close by to make a generator. There is no EMP, no banging not in uS anyway only gentle switching. No CPU's and no 30 volt 20 amp lab PSU's required. OH shit that rules out just about EVERYTHING in the last 5+ years:) -------------------------------------------------------------- ION'S Responce Lets ask the moderator to move this to an appropriate "Newman" thread, then we can have some fun looking at it. Meanwhile I'll check out the vid --------------------------- How many more to be .threatened, abused murdered, Their research in the hands of evil corporations intent on total control ? http://dnp.s3.amazonaws.com/b/b9/suppressed.pdf whilst we know little .. friends remember, In the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed man is king. D. Erasmus

Duncan	Re: so - a new film 'Newman' « Reply #23 on: 2016-12-28, 11:47:10 »
Group: Moderator Hero Member Posts: 704	I want to have fun with this not frustration ! I'm not going to build a Witts, a Newman , a SSG, a Adams a Qeg or a creative science motor, rather my own Frankenstein hybred since to my feeble mind each has the same 'golden heart' never the less there has to be a starting point , a spring board if you will. The old creative science 'fueless motor' claims to be a hot potch of all the other motors too and so I thought why not dance it a few more steps and use it as a starting point ? and then improve and alter. you'll see the basic principles are the same as described twice (once by me and again in the last post) David offers dire warning of copying or exchanging any of his stuff ,beheading ,jail for life that sort of thing despite the fact that the plans are legion all over the interweb if you do but look. here for instance is one such site who's owner no doubt is due for a roasting http://www.softpro.ee/creativescience/ I wonder if you might be tempted to download 362 the fueless engine it is much the same principle and as good a starting place as any. all of these machines require very high voltage back emf ,high inductance and high resistance. I have ordered six of these little Chinese lumps http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DIY-DC-High-Voltage-Generator-Inverter-Electric-Ignitor-15KV-18650-Battery-lm-/332060314742?hash=item4d50564c76 I plan to cut the LV winding off and use the HT winding and remaining 'horse shoe magnet' core. then if it works it isn't going to break anybodies bank or take hours of winding time to duplicate is it? Kindest regards Duncan --------------------------- How many more to be .threatened, abused murdered, Their research in the hands of evil corporations intent on total control ? http://dnp.s3.amazonaws.com/b/b9/suppressed.pdf whilst we know little .. friends remember, In the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed man is king. D. Erasmus

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Re: so - a new film 'Newman' « Reply #24 on: 2016-12-28, 14:32:40 »

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@Grumage

About back aching pain, I had talked to my family for a good year now about fixing my ski boots on a good piece of wood and attaching it to a pulley system in the garage so I could lift myself upside down. Well my younger son just got me an Inversion Therapy Table instead. Model Innova IXT9600. It is incredible. You start slowly and work yourself up to longer hang times and my back, that damn point in the lower back is fading away. A good 50% now after only a few days. It basically lets the spine decompress and the nerves have at least a chance to breath again, let blood flow and help in the healing of that area.

@Duncan and @GK

If I base the JN Hugamonger Machine on my Spin Conveyance theory, since not all copper atoms will work in the conveyance simply because they are not fixed in the copper winding at the optimal vector of the main influence, JNs solution is simple. Let's say only 30% of the copper atoms will work in tandem in a given topology with a same influence where the remaining copper nuclei are either to cramped to move or are positioned in reverse so they counter the main outer influence, then let's just increase the volume of the 30% by added more and more wire. That was JNs solution. Since most copper atoms are not well positioned because our copper wire itself is so low tech to start with, actually our evolution in wire making is really low tech, let's increase the volume of wire. More bad guys will still bring with them some more good guys. This is like playing the numbers game, the more atoms around, the more nuclei will be in the right vector of influence to produce a directional conveyance of energy. This is valid when the coil is subjected to an outer influence or by a direct inline impulse.

JN puts 9v batteries in series because in SC voltage means depth of conveyance. His windings are long so he needs that higher voltage to convey enough of an impulse to reach the other end of the primary coil or close. If the voltage is too high for the coil length, then you create immediate waste in energy and heat. He probably also has his primary coils somehow in series to help reduce the dreadful effects of primary Half Coil Syndrome which he probably never heard of but found to work to his advantage especially in his branch of huge coil building every percentage of an advantage could be huge. His wire must be somewhat thin since he only needs the amperage from that one 9v battery even is series the available amperage would not change. So in SC what is amperage. Amperage is an indication of how many atoms will have their nuclei take part in a pulsed (inline) conveyance or how thick the nucleic conveyance belt or stream or thread will be inside the given diameter of the wire used.

Try to see in your mind - a 1" spark gap with a 1" spark stream driven at .1 amps always at the same voltage required to jump that 1" gap. Will the spark be thick or thin? Now .2 amps. Thinner or thicker? Now .5 amps. Thinner or thicker? Now 1 amp. Thinner or thicker? If you said thicker each time you won the amperage observation award. And that's how amperage is conveyed in the wire. If the impulse was given to a let's say 10 awg thick wire the stream of conveyance gets thicker and thicker inside the wire as amperage increases more and more nuclei are in the action zone. But again, many nuclei are not positioned in the same "direction" at latency so you have resistance. When you super freeze, the weak atoms can no longer hinder the faster reacting atoms and the faster atoms can go really fast when they are left free and unhindered. That's how you get super conductivity by freezing the weaker atoms that liberate the better ones. To eliminate the need for freezing you would have to build the wire atom by atom making sure their nucleic Heavyside is all facing the same way. This would produce super conductive wire at ambient temperature and any transformer built with this should be OU right away with the lowest driving tech required. Also such wire in a coil would produce high amperage at resonance since the atoms are placed in the same way, they will most likely all respond together at resonance and not the flimsy percentages that respond today where we see resonance voltage rise but amperage drop. So OU is just as dependent on the quality of our materials as any process used to play their fanfare.

Now if the aim of the device is to run and keep the run batteries charged as well, then you already set the maximum parameters of potential energy consumption. If you can return 100% of the energy delivered, back to the battery, since the battery itself has finite parameters of voltage and amperage, it will also have a maximum capability to accept recharge and thus far the best known operating factor is 20% of the battery amperage rating will be accepted by the battery as recharge. This means what? Well it means if you are 100% efficient in returning the drive energy back to source, then your device should not consume more then 20% of the amperage rating of your batteries. If you are only 90% efficient in returning energy back to the battery, then your device should not consume more then 90% of the 20% amperage rating of the batteries. Any deviation and your device will not work as planned. Try to recharge faster and it will just create loss and heat, recharge slower and your device will die.

So in fact any system with batteries driven and kept recharged has to deal with this one factor first and foremost. Even if your device produced 1000% OU, you still cannot recharge the battery with more then that 20%.

Why is that so important? Well because we see devices all around and most of them produce reactive high voltage power that is imply returned back to a 1.5 or 9 or 12 volt battery. They guys then see the voltage rise back to the starting voltage and say hey, this battery is fully charged. But it is not.

If you took two 12 volt traditionally recharged batteries, the first you plug to any apparatus and measure the time it takes for the voltage to drop to 10.50 volts, that will be your base traditional battery performance. The second one you plug to your device that is running any way it has too but you do not plug the reactive high voltage recharge until the voltage drops to 10.50 volts, then you connect the recharge and bring the battery recharge back up to 12 volts. You then take that battery and do the same performance test as the first base battery. Do you think the battery will last the same, longer or shorter time frame for the voltage to drop to 10.50 volt? I'll leave you with that guess. hehehe

This fight with the battery is simple. When you use high voltage reactive recharge you are basically doing pot luck recharge where the high voltage will switch and lock material nuclei in a random and erratic manner where you still have long streams of turned nuclei on the length of the battery material so you see this voltage rise, but there is only a small to medium percentage of those nuclei that are locked and ready to unlock when both sides are connected. So your volts goes down very fast and you will never be able to recharge the battery like when you "take your time" to make sure ALL nuclei are turned and locked like with a traditional battery charger set at slow or trickle charge. The lock/unlock in a battery is similar to when Leedskalnin showed the locked keeper bar on his U shaped transformer.

So @GK, for SM this same deal may apply. If the SM TPU, like he says, functions like no battery could function, then he must have found a way to operate his battery driven device while keeping the recharge at 99.999% efficient. That would make his devices last much much longer then a normal battery driven device. And you and I know he had enough room in the base of the LTPU to hide a very good number of batteries.

Hope this gives you some other angles of consideration.

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