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 Hi room,
I am away for a few days, only have my phone to answer and read, will reply on my return.

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I thought I would add some more information on what I have been trying to do with this project, some may not be following me on rotating magnetic fields, and yes I understand that many do not believe that magnetic fields can rotate, that they may in fact be static even if the magnet creating the field is rotating. But that is not the kind of rotation I am talking about. I am playing with magnetic Pole rotation N & S, which is a fact, or electric motors would not work. In this regard there are multiple ways that poles can be rotated both physically and electrically.  Electrically is what I am working on and there is several ways to do it, see the drawing below.
 
The kind of rotation my device is using is the first drawing the 2 Phase, this is similar to a bar magnet spinning on a center axis.  A 3 Phase rotation is different as it is similar to a shorter magnet traveling around in a larger circle and the third drawing is similar to a mono-pole moving around in a circle.  These are all used to make electric motors and there may be other ways.

I am mainly concerned with the 2 Phase type of rotation in this thread.  With 2 phase rotation, speed is determined by the input frequency, every cycle is one complete rotation of the N S poles.  As we all know there are 3 ways to increase output of an electric generator, by increasing the magnetic field strength, by increasing the turns of wire or by increasing the speed the generator turns.  Using the 2 phase method of rotation, it is easy to get millions of RPM in the N S poles rotating in a circle.  An input frequency of 5 kHz translates to 300,000 RPM,  20 kHz to 1.2 million RPM much higher speeds then can be achieved by mechanical means.  See the second drawing to understand how the poles progress in a circle with each cycle

Now if we take a look at velocity, the poles travel around the toroid at a rate of 1 turn per cycle.  If the toroid is 8 inches in dia. and the frequency is 5 kHz
the poles are moving 25.1 inches per rotation or 25.1 X 300,000 = 627,500 ft./min. or 10,458 ft/sec which is quite ballistic.   It is this ballistic speed of the magnetic poles traveling in a circle that I believe en-trains the aether and was what made me feel sick and dizzy operating this device so if replicating be careful.

It may also be possible to reach light speed with a setup like this, It would only require a 1.7 mHz 2 phase drive in a 15" dia. toroid.  The larger the toroid the lower the frequency needed to achieve light speed of the rotating poles.  I think it would be very interesting to see what happens in a device like that, and I think there must be more we can do with ballistic speed of magnetic poles in a simple to achieve manner.  All the magnetic field is usually confined to the core inside a toroidal winding of this kind, but not with this 2 phase rotation there is a good deal of external magnetic field outside the toroid during operation.

OK I hope this helps someone in their endeavors. O0

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This is the process that SM alluded to and also stated that his name used to be Markovitch and was changed .
I have kept that secret untill now as it was asked of me at the time .
I never thought much of it but this thread may find it useful in some way.

Keep up the good work ,i wish i could participate more . That sick giddy feeling I can relate to.

At one point i felt the flesh of my hand vibrate .

This area of research is an area that is in my opinion directly related to the devices demonstrated.

I had never seen this thread before .

The trouble is that it is not widely understood but the markovich device could well be an RMF .

He did go on about the need for a ground that was a shorted loop of solder around the outer coils .

The real issue is that this field is not dealt with on a technical level  as it is a new field as far as common knowledge is concened.

Dont be put off by the lack of explanation of the secondary effects but do be careful.


   

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This is the process that SM alluded to and also stated that his name used to be Markovitch and was changed .
I have kept that secret untill now as it was asked of me at the time .
I never thought much of it but this thread may find it useful in some way.

Keep up the good work ,i wish i could participate more . That sick giddy feeling I can relate to.

At one point i felt the flesh of my hand vibrate .

This area of research is an area that is in my opinion directly related to the devices demonstrated.

I had never seen this thread before .

The trouble is that it is not widely understood but the markovich device could well be an RMF .

He did go on about the need for a ground that was a shorted loop of solder around the outer coils .

The real issue is that this field is not dealt with on a technical level  as it is a new field as far as common knowledge is concened.

Dont be put off by the lack of explanation of the secondary effects but do be careful.

Hi 3D,
Thank you for the additional information, I had never heard that before.  The reason you may have not seen this before is I just, this year, made this thread public, but I always thought the TPU worked something like this. O0

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This is the process that SM alluded to and also stated that his name used to be Markovitch and was changed .
I have kept that secret untill now as it was asked of me at the time .
I never thought much of it but this thread may find it useful in some way.

Keep up the good work ,i wish i could participate more . That sick giddy feeling I can relate to.

At one point i felt the flesh of my hand vibrate .

This area of research is an area that is in my opinion directly related to the devices demonstrated.

I had never seen this thread before .

The trouble is that it is not widely understood but the markovich device could well be an RMF .

He did go on about the need for a ground that was a shorted loop of solder around the outer coils .

The real issue is that this field is not dealt with on a technical level  as it is a new field as far as common knowledge is concened.

Dont be put off by the lack of explanation of the secondary effects but do be careful.

Dear 3D

That is interesting information, that Stephen Mark changed his name that was priorly Markovitch  or was it Markovich (without the "t") as you have spelled it both ways in your post. Which one is correct?

Any relation to Peter Markovich that also claimed a free energy device?

Any help here on the proper spelling would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance

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Dear 3D

That is interesting information, that Stephen Mark changed his name that was priorly Markovitch  or was it Markovich (without the "t") as you have spelled it both ways in your post. Which one is correct?

Any relation to Peter Markovich that also claimed a free energy device?

Any help here on the proper spelling would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance

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Hi Ion and 3D,
That is a good question,  I just looked up Peter Markovich and it led me to a very interesting piece at Rexresearch. com on rectifying the ether and which leads us back to Tesla.  I haven't read it all yet but it apparently had DC output.  Thanks men for the information. O0

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Hi Room, ion, 3D

I have found some time on my own as my guests have gone to take in some nightlife in Valencia C.C

Interesting topic Room, as some know I have been involved with radio since I was a teenager but for some years now my operating is only on 2mts (145Mhz) with a handheld for repeaters locally, I sort of lost interest and changed to new energies investigation, a big field.

As ion knows, also being a HAM, antennas do bring in energy to a tuned circuit which is then amplified, it is their nature by design. Let us take a magnetic loop antenna which is a copper loop of "wire" where the two ends are connected to a capacitor so giving us an LC resonator. This is connected to a receiver/transmitter by a primary coil, smaller loop, near the opposite side to the capacitor, we now have a transformer.

Well I won't go on about how an antenna works but if I am right the aether is the space between an AC capacitor, ionosphere and ground, which is running at the Earths frequency around 7-16Hz which is a very long wave and could be seen as DC in any one local spot if it was frozen like on your oscilloscope. So how can we extract energy from that wave! the antenna would be so big it would not be practicable, well we could apply a sort of modulation to that wave, treat it as a sub-harmonic of a wave we can deal with which is of a much higher frequency.

SM was into audio modulation in a big way, it was his job. Sub harmonics can be a big problem in power distribution, they create huge reactive currents and voltages especially when switching ^-^ but in the audio business they are of great use in synthesizers. I have shown sub-harmonics in some tests of mine, I have shown the kicks when you get it just right and giving a higher db than the primary signal. I was looking in the beginning at the wrong end of the spectrum, it is not the higher harmonics to be looked at but the lower harmonics, those around 8Hz or so, that's 625 times low than "5kHz".

IMO it is all to do with the higher frequencies we use being modulated by the earth's frequency when it is a lower harmonic of that higher frequency, extracting it using the moving charge within the electric field between a two-loop magnetic loop. The two loops are full loop solenoid coils with the capacitance between them.

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Hi Room, ion, 3D

I have found some time on my own as my guests have gone to take in some nightlife in Valencia C.C

Interesting topic Room, as some know I have been involved with radio since I was a teenager but for some years now my operating is only on 2mts (145Mhz) with a handheld for repeaters locally, I sort of lost interest and changed to new energies investigation, a big field.

As ion knows, also being a HAM, antennas do bring in energy to a tuned circuit which is then amplified, it is their nature by design. Let us take a magnetic loop antenna which is a copper loop of "wire" where the two ends are connected to a capacitor so giving us an LC resonator. This is connected to a receiver/transmitter by a primary coil, smaller loop, near the opposite side to the capacitor, we now have a transformer.

Well I won't go on about how an antenna works but if I am right the aether is the space between an AC capacitor, ionosphere and ground, which is running at the Earths frequency around 7-16Hz which is a very long wave and could be seen as DC in any one local spot if it was frozen like on your oscilloscope. So how can we extract energy from that wave! the antenna would be so big it would not be practicable, well we could apply a sort of modulation to that wave, treat it as a sub-harmonic of a wave we can deal with which is of a much higher frequency.

SM was into audio modulation in a big way, it was his job. Sub harmonics can be a big problem in power distribution, they create huge reactive currents and voltages especially when switching ^-^ but in the audio business they are of great use in synthesizers. I have shown sub-harmonics in some tests of mine, I have shown the kicks when you get it just right and giving a higher db than the primary signal. I was looking in the beginning at the wrong end of the spectrum, it is not the higher harmonics to be looked at but the lower harmonics, those around 8Hz or so, that's 625 times low than "5kHz".

IMO it is all to do with the higher frequencies we use being modulated by the earth's frequency when it is a lower harmonic of that higher frequency, extracting it using the moving electric field between a two-loop magnetic loop. The two loops are full loop solenoid coils with the capacitance between them.

Regards

Mike 8)

Hi Mike,
  Yes sub-harmonics was the main focus of this project, I thought I could create sub-harmonics in the range of 7-16 Hz by beating together two frequencies like 5 kHz and 5.008 kHz using the toroidal windings with a loop antenna core.  I thought maybe I could draw in the Shuman resonance thinking it is this huge signal, but It turns out there is not as much energy there as I thought, I forget how much but I know I give the amount of energy available earlier in this thread somewhere. (300 uv/meter?) I never thought of making the core a bifilar winding for capacitance and trying it but I may in the future. It is a new direction for me to take. O0

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Please refrain from mentioning the names spelled corectly  together as this is picked up by bots.

There have been many spelling errors on my part and others, at times , for this reason and as usual the information ,while i have no reason not to believe it to be true ,there is no context and never was.

All of the information given was only designed to become relevant in hindsight as a means of protecting Intelectual property to some small extent, that is how i make sence of it at least.

Please keep on mind that my interest was the discovery process and shared empathy with the real inventors and the distorted path that this may well be part of .

But the concept of rotation and increasing the radius to get more speed ,applied to magnetics/ electron flow /envitonmental interaction/ has to be on the right path.
That is my opinion as is the need for some kind of measuring devise to work with the one known secondary effect of the field rotation extending outwards like a galaxy.

There will be results here but it is known that there are un predictable effects that will never be agreed upon because there is no solid reference .

It seems that what is going in the magnetic delay thread may be relevant to this one .

@ Room if you want to rehide this i would be happier but that is up to you .

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That is my opinion as is the need for some kind of measuring devise to work with the one known secondary effect of the field rotation extending outwards like a galaxy.


The've just detected counter rotation of two discs of gas around NGC 1068 . EU guys are saying maybe evidence of birkeland currents. Could counter rotation of fields play a part?
   

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Jim, that is very likely and fits in with my theory

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Jim, that is very likely and fits in with my theory

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Is your thinking counter rotation of a secondary field is an effect of generating a primary? Or that we should be thinking of a device designed to create both fields? Thanks
   
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Hi All,

Just a comment by the way. A field does not "rotate" for the reason that a field is not a solid body. A field is a set of scalars that specify the amplitude of the field at any point in space.

If the field amplitude decreases at a location A and increases further at a location B, we tend to say that we have a displacement of the field from A to B whether the movement is a linear displacement or a rotation.
But nothing really moves from A to B: it's like "moving" a light spot along a wall when you turn the light source. Light always goes from the source to the wall, to A then from the source to B, but light does not go from A to B, nothing moves along the wall. Whether the field is light or a magnetic field does not change anything.

The "field rotates" can be a simplifying way of talking, but we have to understand what it means, because the difference is considerable. For example, the momentum that can be associated with the field energy will not be in the direction of apparent displacement or rotation, but always moving from the source, which means for example that although the field "rotates", no inertial effects will affect its energy.



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Yes, you are right, and it is the electric charge moving within the electric field that produces the magnetic field.

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PS I inserted the part I missed out, thanks for the correction O0


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The electric field has a direction, positive to negative. This is the direction that the electric field will cause a positive charge to accelerate.
If a positive charge is moving in the same direction as the electric field vector the particle's velocity will increase. If it is moving in the opposite direction it will decelerate.
If a negative charge is moving in the same direction as the electric field vector the particle will decelerate. If it is moving in the opposite direction it will accelerate.

Now if a charged particle is moving between parallel electric plates and its velocity is initially parallel to the plates it will be deflected toward the plate with opposite charge and its velocity vector will increase in magnitude.

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@ Room if you want to rehide this i would be happier but that is up to you .

Hi 3D,
I think this topic should be discussed but I understand some things should remain in the dark if there are any posts that you think should be deleted because of the content just let me know and I will delete them.  I believe you can delete any of your own posts if wanted, but I think it is a little late to put this behind the curtain again and make it private. What's private now days anyway, at this point I think everything is hacked and not just by the government, I think China, Russia and many other countries are reading and viewing everything on line regardless of where it is.  There is no more privacy so if were in trouble there is not much we can do about it. :(

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Hi All,
Mike I like how you think! ;)
Good discussion guys, F6 I believe most of us understand what you say and believe the same thing. O0

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Just a comment by the way. A field does not "rotate" for the reason that a field is not a solid body. A field is a set of scalars that specify the amplitude of the field at any point in space.
If the field amplitude decreases at a location A and increases further at a location B, we tend to say that we have a displacement of the field from A to B whether the movement is a linear displacement or a rotation.
But nothing really moves from A to B: it's like "moving" a light spot along a wall when you turn the light source. Light always goes from the source to the wall, to A then from the source to B, but light does not go from A to B, nothing moves along the wall. Whether the field is light or a magnetic field does not change anything.

Another way of looking at it is that the Electric and Magnetic fields are not "something" in itself but a "condition of something". Which is why a magnet can rotate on the N-S axis however the magnetic field does not rotate with it. The magnetic field exists in the space surrounding the magnet however as we know the space is not moving per se. As F6FLT implied, rotating a lightbulb does not produce a rotating field of light for the same reasons.

This is an important concept to remember, "fields being a condition of something not something in itself" because the conditions can be changed which then changes the field structure. For example, a magnet can be brought near to an iron shaft or rod inducing an opposite magnetic field in it. Then the rod is hit extremely hard on one end with a hammer producing a compression wave in the metal. As the induced magnetic field is a "condition" of the metal as the metal contracts the magnetic field contracts, as the metal expands the magnetic field expands producing a magnetic wave phenomena along the rod length.

The same phenomena is true of diamagnetic materials such as copper and the change in internal motion/compression-expansion can produce external field changes. Think of it as an aggregate of particles which carry an induced magnetic field then changing the motion and position of the particles which then changes the magnetic field structure.

An experiment, take an iron shaft with a coil wrapped around it connected to a DSO then strike one end of the shaft. A voltage spike is produced because the Earths magnetic field has induced an opposite magnetic field in the shaft and when we struck it the material of the metal compressed-expanded. This changed the condition of the metal changing the magnetic field which induced a voltage in our coil. Here we can also see how external Electric and Magnetic fields can be utilized to produce electrical energy.

Note it does not matter how or why the material property changed producing a conditional field change... only that it does change. There are countless ways it could be done and how it's done up to you. This is how technology evolves, we take a single phenomena then conceptualize, build and experiment until it yields practical results.

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Really thought provoking stuff and Thanks 6FLT , it really is a condition but perhaps if that condition is manipulated correctly a " situation" where inertia exists and other interactions are possible.
We have to put the cart in front of the horse here so ther will be speculation.
I always go back to the first demo when he had no legal advice and placed the magnet on the centre part ,where it stuck .

This i believe unbalanced the condition and set the oscillation, which was dependant on the magnetic condition, into process.
and i woud say ther was a small battery there

It might have been a simple multivibrator that was dependant on everything being in balance like a magnetic see saw .

The citcuit here could be modified untill it would depend on just the winding length to oscillate then be further reduced by resistor values.

having a cro on each collector and adjusting untill it barely oscillates ....lots of variables but low component count.

It is possible that this arrangement could react correctly to the condition creating a slightly delayed output on the secondary whch could be sent to the outer rim and returned to the primary.

I remain of the view that the centre torroid is multifilar for electric de coupling/isolation .
Litz wire gives many outputs and inputs with capacitive coupling remainig (no way to avoid that)
If this is sequenced properly and matched properly you woud have a device that would react to its own condition to create rotation..?
This stuff does my head in but its close is some respects .

There are better minds than mine here but  its all about hands on and some form of self oscillation .
Using a cap for the 12v charging it and watching the oscillation die slowly or quickly is practical for working in the dark here.
It was this first video that needed to be "overshadowed" with other info that had no context , by the legal side ..i cant say their name .
The curcuit here would only be a guide to explain but agood start.
Perhaps the brains trust could suggest wiring arrangements to ensure rotation .
The lack of capacitors may be important for balancing at least
the centre torroid may just be back and forth whilr the outer rim is sequecial... brain fade now ....
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I remember when I was younger messing with transistor radios, with the tune cap in the small clear plastic block, if you short out 2 of the 5 varicap leads you can receive other bands. Also if you tune 2 of those radios to a channel, one radio, affects how the other receives, etc. Those fine wires on the bar core for an ant, I have wondered and posted at ou.com on the idea of what if it were not fine wires but thick wires, etc, to increase the current in the voltage of the signal.  I can imagine more receivers like that in proximity of each other would show some heavy interference with other receivers.  maybe there could be some distance requirements in relation to the transmitter between receivers to avoid this interference, as in signal phasing and such, and since there is this interference, if receivers are in line over a distance, possibly they could act like repeaters to one another.  ??? ;)
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Well I already have one of these wound so I'll have a tinker.

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I think that is a two-phase transformer which could be a coverup of a two-phase TPU ;)

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Well I already have one of these wound so I'll have a tinker.

Hi Jim,
I have played with this transformer for many years now, it is the basis for the rotating field I have been discussing in this thread.  This device is what has made me feel sick and dizzy in the past so careful.  I have tried this double, one on top of the other with the same and opposite directions of of rotation.  Very fun to play with but so far I have not been able to find any overunity so have fun maybe you can find the magic configuration. O0

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Really thought provoking stuff and Thanks 6FLT , it really is a condition but perhaps if that condition is manipulated correctly a " situation" where inertia exists and other interactions are possible.
We have to put the cart in front of the horse here so ther will be speculation.
I always go back to the first demo when he had no legal advice and placed the magnet on the centre part ,where it stuck .

This i believe unbalanced the condition and set the oscillation, which was dependant on the magnetic condition, into process.
and i woud say ther was a small battery there

It might have been a simple multivibrator that was dependant on everything being in balance like a magnetic see saw .

The citcuit here could be modified untill it would depend on just the winding length to oscillate then be further reduced by resistor values.

having a cro on each collector and adjusting untill it barely oscillates ....lots of variables but low component count.

It is possible that this arrangement could react correctly to the condition creating a slightly delayed output on the secondary whch could be sent to the outer rim and returned to the primary.

I remain of the view that the centre torroid is multifilar for electric de coupling/isolation .
Litz wire gives many outputs and inputs with capacitive coupling remainig (no way to avoid that)
If this is sequenced properly and matched properly you woud have a device that would react to its own condition to create rotation..?
This stuff does my head in but its close is some respects .

There are better minds than mine here but  its all about hands on and some form of self oscillation .
Using a cap for the 12v charging it and watching the oscillation die slowly or quickly is practical for working in the dark here.
It was this first video that needed to be "overshadowed" with other info that had no context , by the legal side ..i cant say their name .
The curcuit here would only be a guide to explain but agood start.
Perhaps the brains trust could suggest wiring arrangements to ensure rotation .
The lack of capacitors may be important for balancing at least
the centre torroid may just be back and forth whilr the outer rim is sequecial... brain fade now ....

Hi 3D,
 You show a basic inverter circuit in your photo's, I don't see any way to get rotation from it using litz wire or any other configuration the driving signals are at 180 degrees to each other which will only cause a back and forth movement (ac), getting rotation is a little trickier.  Even with a 2 phase 90 degree signal if connections are not correct you will only get a back and forth movement, that's why it is important to put the dots on each coil in the schematic for the start of the wind and if not connected the way I show, you will not get rotation. ;)

Regards
Room

PS for Jim, what I say above applies to your transformer, Tesla toroid.  I say this because Tesla himself showed connections incorrectly in one of his patents so you could be confused by Tesla himself, It took me awhile and a lot of head scratching to figure that one out. O0


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