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It is established fact that within magnetized ferromagnetic conductors such as Fe the conduction electrons are spin-polarized, i.e they tend to be like tiny magnets aligned with the internal field.  As such they can be dragged along by a field gradient.  There is then the possibility of dragging electrons along a Fe wire using the linear motor technique of sequential coils AC driven but with a phase shift between adjacent coils.  This is an unusual means for creating electron transport in a conducting wire which seems worthy of investigation.  The attached paper tells the story and suggests using a multiple-turn Fe coil that looks like a ring core around which the drive coils are wound in toroidal fashion.  If any one is interested in doing the experiment I would be most interested in seeing the results.  Especially whether this can create a DC current and whether the multiple turns increase the output voltage in normal coil fashion.  Note that high frequency drive can create significant transport velocity, or the effect of such.

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Hi Smudge,

I have been experimenting with exactly this idea for some years now and yes it does work and I believe the basis of the infamous TPU of Marks. It creates the clamp on amp meter anomaly of SM's, where you can hold a closed (or open) amp meter in the center and (not clamped on anything) it gives a reading. I have had readings from 1 amp to as high as 40 amps just in the air around this device. And I haven't yet figured out how it is happening, I can't get a reading on my clamp on in any other way, and I have held it near all kinds of things.  So far though I have not been able to tap any energy out of that apparent energy circulating, or whatever it is doing.

My latest attempt is exactly what you are saying, using a iron core with a circulating magnetic field to speed up the electrons and by doing so increasing the voltage, giving a high voltage output.  But instead of letting the electrons clump like you are talking I am planning on injecting the electrons into the iron in small timed bunches which I am calling my Kick circuit.  After being zipped around the iron out put coil they will be rectified into a cap as the output, so DC out.

Do you think copper would work like the iron with less resistance to heat up?  I have tried some copper cores and not had as good results as the iron cores.

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Do you think copper would work like the iron with less resistance to heat up?  I have tried some copper cores and not had as good results as the iron cores.

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Hi Room3327,

No copper won't work because the electrons are not spin polarized.  Because the copper ions do not exhibit any magnetization effect, and the electrons keep crashing into the ions, the electrons do not get their spins aligned.  In magnetized Fe the ions are magnetic dipoles that are aligned, so the electrons inherit their spin alignments from those ions.  Have you tried many turns of Fe wire and look for voltage output or are you using a closed Fe ring core and looking for circulating current?  Did you see my other paper on a possible TPU explanation that involves the Earth's scalar magnetic field creating electromagnetic inertia?   It looks like you are in a position to investigate that.  Or my other paper suggesting fast pulses could create the kick phenomenon in thick copper wire or a copper tube?.  Sent them again here.

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Hi Room3327,

No copper won't work because the electrons are not spin polarized.  Because the copper ions do not exhibit any magnetization effect, and the electrons keep crashing into the ions, the electrons do not get their spins aligned.  In magnetized Fe the ions are magnetic dipoles that are aligned, so the electrons inherit their spin alignments from those ions.  Have you tried many turns of Fe wire and look for voltage output or are you using a closed Fe ring core and looking for circulating current?  Did you see my other paper on a possible TPU explanation that involves the Earth's scalar magnetic field creating electromagnetic inertia?   It looks like you are in a position to investigate that.  Or my other paper suggesting fast pulses could create the kick phenomenon in thick copper wire or a copper tube?.  Sent them again here.

Smudge

I've had the feeling for awhile now that copper just didn't work like iron, thanks Smudge for the Info. I will look over your papers, think I saw one before.
I am using insulated iron wire many turns (approx. 30 T) for the core, most of the information on this has been in my bench for a number of years in the LSR thread although I have dropped most of the radio stuff in favor of what you are saying, My schematics have changed a bit but still the same general idea, I have now wound dozens of coils just like SM and am tired of it.
I believe at this point that all that is needed is one ring wound in the correct way to work like the TPU, Two rings and a winding around them both is what SM demonstrated, a double device if you will for double the output. One of the reasons I believe that no one has figured this out yet.

At any rate I have been creating motor wound rings about 7-8 inches in diameter and using 2 phase 90 degree apart sine waves to drive 4 coils wound all the way around the core iron and I get very interesting results including the SM anomaly of the clamp on ampmeter and spinning compasses.  My idea is to create basically a solid state cyclotron and speeding the electrons up with it to increase their voltage level at the output, faster electrons= higher voltage. If I can feed a half amp in at 18 volts and boost the voltage to 150 at close to the same half amp I now have more energy output, that's the idea anyway, don't know if it will work but worth a try I think. I only have about a dozen more coils to wind blah.

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Hey Room can you upload any pix of your setup? Smudge the effect kind of resembles Donald Scotts Z pinch theory . Very interesting, just trying to get my head around types of coils and physical setup.
   

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Hey Room can you upload any pix of your setup? Smudge the effect kind of resembles Donald Scotts Z pinch theory . Very interesting, just trying to get my head around types of coils and physical setup.

Hi Jimboot,

Yes I can show some pics, the first one is a number of projects I have worked on, Gunderson gen., agent gates coil, my own rendition of the Bi-toroid, a 20KV multilayer capacitor, and several TPU coils and a circuit I designed and built to drive them with. There are a good number more projects I have done as well.

The second picture is the latest TPU coils I have been working with.  The red upper coil of the dual setup is the one with about 30 Turns of insulated iron wire .046 dia..  Wound on top of the iron is 4 coils of 29 Ga. magnet wire, approx. 400 turns each coil, with very small gaps between them (<1/16 inch).

The lower coil is iron cored but uninsulated with no leads coming out.  This coil seems to work the best for stirring the aether but no way to get anything out of the core, but this one I had 40 amp readings, at one point, on my clamp on meter just held at the center.  These clamp on meter readings are very stable and do not jump around but do vary in magnitude at different locations around the coil. My clamp on is a mechanical (D'arsonval) movement not electronic like SM's was, so we are seeing the same anomaly with two different type meters.

These are incomplete coils for testing purposes, finished ones will have another set of coils on top of the first four for transformer action which will then be rectified and used to drive the Kick generator which will then feed pulses to the core winding, upon exiting the core winding they will be fed through a single diode to a capacitor where the output will then be taken from.

The green coil is my latest and is not finished yet, this coil has a insulated stranded copper core with insulated iron wire wrapped around the copper, one layer all the way around to provide the iron part of the core.  The idea was to try and isolate the copper core from the transformer effects while still having a iron core.  The kick pulses would be fed to the copper core and the iron would not be used for and output of any kind, just trying to move my way down the road on my own.

Hope this helps you.

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Room  


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...my other paper suggesting fast pulses could create the kick phenomenon in thick copper wire or a copper tube?.  Sent them again here.
Take a look at the pulse timing diagrams in the attached patent - they seem to have an empirical origin.  
Do they agree with your tentative kick theory?

   

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Take a look at the pulse timing diagrams in the attached patent - they seem to have an empirical origin.  
Do they agree with your tentative kick theory?

Hi Verpies,

This is so complicated that I could not say whether the pulse sequences agree with my kick theory.  What I can say is that they mention pulse widths down to 1 picosecond and pulse delays of 0.1 picoseconds.  So IMO that could mean their device is manipulating the precession motion of electrons, possibly the electrons within the PM rather than within the copper.  Perhaps this is evidence that my old paper on non-coherent access to precession energy has some merit, sent again here.  If so then I think much simpler experiments could prove this one way or another.

While talking about pulse sequences I have had some experience in using Nuclear Quadrupole Resonance (NQR) for detecting explosives.  Like NMR and ESR the resonance is of course a Larmor precession and the pulse sequence is important in maintaining the resonance.  I can imagine someone playing with bulk material where the precessions are normally dephased and also occupy a wide frequency range discovering some peculiar sequences that produce anomalous effects.  So my gut feeling is that this invention does indeed tap into the normally hidden precession energy.

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Hi Smudge,

I have read over your papers and I agree with you, and I think these are very well written, good papers!  O0
We all thank you I am sure!

If there is anything I can do to help further your research I would be glad to help whatever I can.
Honestly speaking as I have a want to do, I follow what you are saying but at this stage of my life I skip over much of the math, I'll assume it is all correct.

Room


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