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Author Topic: Let's get Slider (aka Mark Vaughan) a nice 4-channel DSO with math functions!  (Read 65655 times)

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It's not as complicated as it may seem...
Hang in there TK.  ;)

I'm looking forward to seeing you put that scope through its paces!

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@slider: Yep.... the house numbers are already displayed in pretty large numbers on the front porch, easily visible from the street, and just putting the address into google maps or google earth correctly IDs the right house, it's a _corner house_ even so it's pretty hard to miss. We shall see what happens.

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Thanks, me too. At the moment I'm kind of upset about another issue and until that's resolved I may not be posting.
   
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TK
you sound like your having "my day"...
hope things look up for you, just hung up again with TE
they are breaking from "normal" warrantee policy
[thanks to your vid and head tech at Rigol }

tracking info should be heading our way soon
   
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order confirmation received
two day express shipment

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you'll be loosing sleep again in no time... :o

gotta pace your self with these new toys....
   
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Is it "soon" yet? I'm looking for a tracking number and a delivery day.... haven't seen anything yet, and it's after closing time "back east".

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This made me laugh, with regard to the fan for the scope.....was in todays Electronics Goldmine e-newsletter.

http://www.goldmine-elec-products.com/prodinfo.asp?number=G20663


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Apparently they work around the clock at TE
it was shipped yesterday and the confirmation was received by me at ten to midnight
whilst I snoozed .

I would touch base with the UPS terminal in your area and make sure that the driver "pays attention"
you can also insist on the signed signature now that there is a tracking number, UPS can add it to
the drivers instructions. this way all that will be left by the driver at the abandoned house will be a little
"we missed you" sticker instead of your Scope.... :D
   
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According to the tracking site the scope arrived in the city around 5:30 pm yesterday, and was put on the local truck for delivery this morning. Nothing so far has appeared on any of the nearby porches. I made a big cardboard sign with the house number on it so that even a blind driver could see it from the curb...

Yesterday I saw UPS trucks driving by on the street about 4 or 5 times. Today I haven't seen a single one. Yet...
   
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There is something seriously wrong with this UPS system.  The 2nd-day-air option was chosen to expedite delivery. The package has been in this city since 5:37 pm yesterday, and nearly 24 hours later it still has not been delivered.

   
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2nd day ....
use to mean 10 AM on the second day or NC for the shipment
Tings have changed
   
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How stupid is this? It left the warehouse in PA at 9:05 PM on the 14th and arrived in this city at 5:27 PM on the 15th. It spent less than 20 hours getting TO this city... and it has been over 25 hours _in this city_ and still hasn't been delivered.

It is now 7 PM. Nothing.
   
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UPS drivers are usually remarkable creatures of habit, their truck follows a route and time window simultaneously
usually with in a few minutes...


   
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tracking says "out for delivery"

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"Out for delivery" at 7:47 am.... and it is now 7:47 PM, and NOTHING.....

I will never again deal with UPS under any circumstances if I have anything to say about it.
   
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8:15 PM and it's almost completely dark outside. Nothing. Housemate is on the phone trying to get something out of Customer Non-Service.

The website says, for 2nd Day Air:  "Guaranteed second-day delivery " But I can't find any information as to just what "guaranteed" might mean.
   
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I never knew them to deliver this late
I suspect it will be bumped to tomorrow
the guarantee will mean no charge to the vendor...
   
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And what about me? My time, all day long, watching the front porch camera, checking the website.... nothing. It's completely dark outside now and I am completely pissed off.

The phone call to Sucktomer Non-Service has produced no results... they say they can't raise anyone at the local depot or site or whatever.  They are supposed to call back here by 10 am tomorrow. And that's what they said last week too, and never did call. Of course last week I had actually found the package at the house next door by this time.
   
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"no charge to the vendor"... but the vendor is not inconvenienced in any way by the non-on-time delivery. The _customer_ is the one who is screwed by the screw-up. Am I supposed to wait and watch all day tomorrow too, for them to find time to deliver the package that has allegedly been on the truck for over 13 hours now, and which has been in town for over a full day already?

9 PM and fully dark outside. And I can't even leave to take the damn dog for a walk in case they drive by and toss the thing out the back onto somebody's random porch while I'm gone.
   
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9:30 pm. Nothing. Do UPS drivers really work 14-hour days? Tracking site still says "On Vehicle for Delivery Today".

I'm posting here out of frustration. There is nothing, nobody I can contact, no recourse at all other than to bitch here to blow off some steaming blood pressure.

I hope Chet informs the "wenches" at TEquipment that all their work to get the thing sent out to me promptly was useless, worse than useless in fact since I've been waiting and watching all day and getting more and more burned up by the hour.

   
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9:45 PM.  Caught the truck trying to drop it off halfway down the block. Boy am I mad, driver just doesn't care. But at least it's here finally.
   
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That's a first...almost 10 oclock at night....?
well I certainly hope this one works....
   
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Gee wizz, lucky you're vigilant Tinsel, you caught him.

Yep the fan draws in air on the right side of mine but I can't feel it coming out anywhere much at all. The flow is not a lot you're right about that. If you do put a screen on just don't forget to clean it or the air will stop. ;) I'm not sure how I'll attach it, I don't really want to glue it on the scope. Double sided tape maybe. It's been in storm storage. No more storms now till next summer.

The DS1052E does the pass mask thing and it will show math traces but does no calculations. 

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Tinsel and Slider did you download the "Ultrascope software", so you can connect the scope to the computer for bigger shots ect. ? I connected mine via usb. I think it's time for me to rebuild/upgrade my busted desktop computer this old single core laptop is not much more than a big net book. I went to transcode a video and the program told me it would take over 3 days to complete omg  ;D. No transcoding DVD's on this machine.
   
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I'll tell ya what TK...that guy must have one helluva broad he sees in your area !
Really can't think of any other excuse for such an amount of time on the truck and then delivery late at night.
Oh, maybe he got caught by the husband and spent time in an ICU lol
It would make a better excuse than whatever they won't be saying anyway.
Glad it's there though :)


I have the software Farmhand, but have found the pictures fine for posting and am not a 'power user' yet. 640x480 or similar is good here. I can't do the 3000x2500 type of things that cellphones take these days because am in a similar boat with computers.
This one right now is a Dell Dimension 2350 - 2GHz Pentium 4, 1 gig ram, no slot for extra graphics card and free off Freecycle, along with the Gateway CRT monitor.
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Running Linux, Peppermint 5, which somehow it does do very well and was surprising.
There's a reason why my own videos are usually short, same thing as you mention (using Openshot).
A relative recently sent me an LG Tribute cellphone, for parts. It's way faster than this PC and runs YouTube vids in near enough HD ! LOL
I ought to put the phone inside the PC case and hook up the wires.



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Ahh I see, I use Linux Mint in Dual boot with windows xp  ;D, xp is a pain and microsoft sucks but windows does come into it's own at times, I still have unopened original genuine copies of windows xp, and three activated versions on old dead computers, my desktop has Linux mint and windows 7 dual boot which I think is better than windows 8/8.1. Desktop went bang and I haven't even tried to fix it yet just had a look and decided it had a PWM failure on the board so it's possible it's all ruined. I've been saving up and was going to rebuild/repair it for Christmas, never got to it. I've had no viral infections with xp and it will be a novelty to open up a new version of xp and install it on a computer after microsoft ceases support for it, which I think they already have.

This laptop is the only complete computer I've ever bought, I had to buy it for my son for school but he grew up and gave it back, it's a dell inspiron 1501 with a AMD turion 2000 MHz processor, so we almost have the same thing except mines a laptop and AMD. Lots of phones have more processing power than this as well. It is funny.
But it is still working which is a big thing. hehehehe

I'm a fan of Puppy Linux which I use on a usb stick with some recovery tools, Puppy will run happily on the oldest/slowest of computers and is great for recovering files from a crashed windows computer.

I'm definitely not a power user either, but my scope shots saves to usb at 320 x 240 max as far as I can tell. With the virtual console on the computer I can get bigger and much better resolution shots.

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Well, it wasn't so much "vigilance" that I caught him... actually I had given up and was taking my dog Maggie for a walk and saw the truck down the block. So Maggie's walk got postponed for a bit while I yelled at the driver in frustration.

After walkies, I did an "unboxing" which I haven't posted yet. Odd, this one wasn't double-boxed as they usually are, and its serial number is earlier than the one I returned, if I'm interpreting the  numbers properly.

Yes, I have the UltraVision software, installed it from the CD that comes with the scope, onto my Windows laptop. I normally use Linux on the main box.

I worked with it a couple of hours last night... applied the unlocking key, scoped some circuits... then went to bed.

This morning was a horror-show. I was scoping a test circuit, using only one channel, zoomed in... and the scope locked up. OK..well, the other one did that once too and I just power-cycled it and it was fine. SO I press the off button, wait a few seconds, press the button again, the scope boots up, displays the live waveform I was looking at before... but does not respond to any buttons or knobs. None. Nada, nichts, gonzo. I cycle power again.... nothing. No response from any buttons or  knobs. Panic sets in.... I keep trying over and over, try USB comms, try the UltraScope software, try USB from my Linux, try LAN... nothing. I've bricked the damn thing, and the warranty is gonna be void because it's stuck in hack mode and I can't remove the hack because no comms work. After a couple hours of frantic panic and emails to Chet, I was shooting a video showing what I had discovered, at certain times during boot up pressing or holding some buttons changed its behaviour a little bit, but always after bootup completed, nothing, No response to any buttons or knobs, although display was normal. But toward the end of the video I did something, held the Auto button down and then again held the Trigger Level knob down... and it WORKED! Came up in factory default with Chinese menus but it worked! Fully responsive again. First thing I did was connect with USB and uninstalled the "hack" so it's back to 50 MHz now. And it's working 100 percent. Whew.... that was a close one. I don't understand what happened and I'm not sure how I fixed it, but at least I have the video that shows whatever it was that I did at the end to get it running.

SO all afternoon I've been testing and burning in. The latest thing to report is that I can communicate with the scope and remote-control it using telnet over the LAN from my Linux box! Way easier than using the UltraScope USB from the Windows laptop. No display functions of course at my level, but at least the remote control works great and very easy to use. Plug the scope into your LAN, set up the thing to fetch an IP address from your DHCP router, and then "telnet 192.168.1.105 5555" (port 5555 is the Rigol's port for LAN comms) and you're in! The Programming Guide lists all the available commands that can be used to control the scope remotely, you just enter them in the telnet window and it works!

I'm going to leave it "unhacked" or stock for the time being just in case... I really don't think that the "hack" had anything to do with it freezing up since I haven't been able to find any reports on the internet of similar things happening to users of hacked scopes. After a while I may reapply the hack and keep my fingers crossed.

Running the self-calibrate function seems to have improved the slight jittering it had. At first I thought that it had a problem since the waveforms were slightly noisy and slightly jittery but now I think I've convinced myself that it's fine. Definitely no glitches on any channels!

   
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