I am starting this thread as a follow up to my response to a post made by Poynt99 entitled, The Free Energy Researcher’s: POWER & CREED on the “Partnered Output Coils thread. Here’s the permalink (text will be posted below) . http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=2760.msg45862#msg45862 Poynt99’s POWER & CREED (P&C) statement details foundational elements for research in the area of so-called “electrical research” and possible overunity, with integrity, accuracy in measurement, and responsible disclosure. Poynt99 brings together principles to help guide the overunity researcher in ways that avoid common pitfalls and mistakes that create confusion and undermine collective progress in overunity research. It’s a well-organized overview that seems to be the fruit of a great deal of knowledge, understanding and experience in this field. I would say it should be recommended reading for everyone embarking on research into this area. Subsequent to Poynt99’s post, I stated that while agreeing with much of what his P&C statement contained, I disagreed with how he expressed the relationship between efficiency and overunity in open systems. User EvolvingApe (EA) asked me to state clearly my objection. I did so in general terms, noting that I would start this thread for further discussion in order to avoid disrupting the Partnered Output Coils thread. Below, you’ll find Poynt99’s POWER & CREED STATEMENT, my response (Bob Smith) to it, Evolving Ape’s response to me, and finally some thoughts and questions I put forward… Permalink: http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=2760.msg45862#msg45862
Meanwhile, on a senior member's suggestion, the following is from the "Power and Creed" document posted in the thread of the same name. This is a must read for Free Energy researchers, particularly for newer members to OUR.
The Free Energy Researcher’s:
POWER & CREED
- A must read for those on the quest for Free Energy at OUR.
Prepared by: Darren Kozey (poynt99)
Document Date: 2009/12/13
Revision: V2.0
The Free Energy Researcher’s: POWER & CREED
Preface
The world needs an alternative to conventional energy sources; dare we call this
alternative source “free energy”?
Free Energy research is alive and well on a number of public and private forums.
There are many people actively researching in this area; the vast majority of
which are younger and less experienced folks. This is fantastic and will hopefully
secure a better future for all. However, with youth and/or inexperience, often
comes over-enthusiasm and haste. Many times indeed, it is the experienced and
technically-trained researchers that fall into the all-too-familiar trap of letting
their excitement, hope, enthusiasm, or lack of know-how, get in the way of
better judgment.
To declare something extraordinary and make claims of “overunity” without solid
substantiating evidence or proof to back it up, does a great disservice to all on
the FE quest, especially when the claim turns out to be a false alarm or a
deception.
The aim of this document is to serve as a guide to help all FE researchers avoid
the pitfalls of making an unsubstantiated claim.
To follow is a creed by which I strongly encourage all to study it, understand it,
and above all…apply it!
Dedication
This document is dedicated to all the brilliant and determined minds working in
Free Energy research…all those in the present, the past, and the future.
Thank you for your tenacity and your commitment to the FE quest.
INTRODUCTION
Most claims of overunity turn out to be the result of erroneous assumptions,
measurement errors, nonexistent measurements, suspicious measurements, or
equipment limitations. As such, a short guide is needed that all FE researchers
can refer to and apply while conducting their research and publishing their
results. The following CREED, MAKING CLAIMS AND DISCLOSING RESPONSIBLY,
and MAKING PROPER POWER MEASUREMENTS (for electronics devices) sections
make up this guide.
It is by no means perfect or complete, but a starting point at least, and one that
would surely go a long way in avoiding much frenzy, anxiety, wasted time, effort
and money, embarrassment, flaming, loss of respect and integrity, and arguing
etc., for all interested parties involved. If only it can be followed.
THE FE RESEARCHER’S CREED
“As a Free Energy Researcher, I dedicate my knowledge and skill to the advancement
and betterment of human welfare. I strive for integrity, accuracy, and completeness in
my work and my releases to the public.
I pledge in conducting my FE research:
- To give the utmost of performance;
- To make no assumptions, no matter how “obvious” things may appear to me;
- To never jump to conclusions when apparent anomalies are observed;
- To investigate and strive to eliminate ALL possible sources of error BEFORE
making conclusions about any observed anomalies;
- To exercise due diligence in regards to fully understanding what I am doing,
and how I am doing it;
- To conduct my experiments, tests, and measurements in a scientific manner
and with the correct and most appropriate equipment;
- To strive for and take steps towards making COP measurements that are
flawless and accurate, while understanding and accounting for the
limitations and idiosyncrasies of my test equipment;
- To place integrity before ego;
- To post claims of overunity only when backed up with solid proof and
evidence in the form of fully documented, and accurate measurements and
test setup diagrams;
- To do my best in explaining and illustrating my disclosures, and be well-prepared
to answer any questions on things I may have overlooked;
- To seek advice, guidance, and review from my un-biased peers and those
with more technical know-how BEFORE I post any extraordinary claims of
overunity;
- To do my homework (all of the above).
In humility and with need for Collective/Higher Guidance, I make this pledge.”
MAKING CLAIMS AND DISCLOSING RESPONSIBLY
For anyone planning on disclosing something or making a claim, please use the
following as a guide to do so:
1) Decide and state what exactly you are about to claim:
Options here include:
a) 100% certainty you have achieved overunity.
b) You are not 100% sure and asking for help to determine if it is so.
c) You are only observing strange effects and you would like other users to
provide helpful feedback.
2) Regardless of which option fits your case, please provide in your post the
following minimum parts:
a) A complete drawing or schematic of your prototype or test setup.
b) A clear description of what the device or circuit is, what you think the
circuit is doing, or what you wanted it to do.
c) A list of references to any other devices or documentation you based your
device on.
d) A list of proper power measurements (see Power Measurements at OUR).
e) A photo of your setup is optional, but may be helpful.
3) For those with limited Free Energy Research experience, and/or electronics
experience, please post a request for someone to review your steps 1) and 2)
above BEFORE making your post and claim.
4) Refine all the above listed elements with the feedback received from the
more technically-experienced forum users.
5) Make your claims / disclosure post.
MAKING PROPER POWER MEASUREMENTS
Accurate power measurements are probably the most difficult and least
understood, yet the most meaningful measurements to perform, especially in the
Free Energy circles. If one makes a claim of overunity and their measurement of
input power vs. output power is either not supplied, or is questionable in its
accuracy, no one will be interested in delving further into or inquiring about their
work…and rightly so.
Far too often researchers are fooled by assuming that their test equipment or
method is yielding true and accurate measurements, when more often than not,
this is probably not the case. In fact, most researchers probably don’t
understand the basics of how meters work and what separates a truly TRUE RMS
measurement from an “average” one. The following is a quote from Bob
Paddock’s “POWER MEASUREMENT” article linked at the end of this document:
"I had a need to make a power measurement of an unusual high-frequency wave form for an
application I was working on. Because of the esoteric nature the application had, I wanted to be
sure I would not be hearing the words "Measurement Errors".
Far too often I've seen others try to do high-frequency power measurements by looking at the
signal on their oscilloscope, or by using their bench multimeter without understanding its
specifications. Looking at a complex high-frequency wave form with a multimeter designed for
60-Hz sine waves simply does not give meaningful results."
[pony99: unless one is looking for the average value of a signal, then DC meters perform well in this task]
A great deal of FE research involves the use of non-sinusoidal, spikey, and noisy
inputs and outputs. As such there are some “precautions” one must take to
ensure that any measurements performed on such devices under test (DUT’s)
will yield true and meaningful results. Devices utilizing or creating high frequency
components are especially susceptible to measurement errors and it is imperative
that this is understood. Special care and considerations are required in these
cases in order that good measurements can be obtained.
Please refer to the Power Measurements and High Frequency Measurements
threads for detailed information on performing accurate and obtaining
meaningful power measurements.
Following are some relevant terms that require definition and clarification:
OPEN AND CLOSED SYSTEMS
An Open System is one in which power or energy from outside the device’s
immediate domain, may be added to the system for free. This outside energy or
power is not the energy or power supplied by you the user to make the system
operate, but is energy or power supplied by the environment, universe, aether or
ZPF etc. This “outside” energy supplement is what makes “overunity” possible.
A Closed System is one in which no energy from outside the immediate domain
of the device can or will enter the system. The device sees only the energy or
power that you the user supply to it. Closed systems are therefore inherently
under, or at unity, but never overunity.
EFFICIENCY (η)
The efficiency of a DUT in a closed system, is simply the ratio between the
power converted by the device, namely “the output power”, to the power
supplied to the device by the user, namely “the input power”. Devices that
operate strictly in a closed system will always have an efficiency of 100% or less.
The efficiency of a DUT in an open system, is a little more complicated, but as I’ll
explain, not necessarily relevant to FE research.
Strictly speaking, the efficiency of a DUT in an open system is computed the
same way as that for a closed system. However, it may be difficult if not
impossible to calculate, depending on the device and its overunity mechanism.
If for example your DUT requires 10 Watts of input power to operate, wastes 9
Watts of power in heat (as measured with a calorimeter with no load), but puts
out 100 Watts, the efficiency of the device is only a meager 10% ! In this case,
at least 99 Watts of power is freely entering the system from the “outside” and
being converted and output by the device, but the efficiency is still only 10%.
To say that this device has an efficiency of 1000% is simply not correct ! Even in
open systems, the efficiency can not and must not be higher than 100%.
So by all means, strive to make your energy device as efficient as possible, but
the real and meaningful FE quest is to obtain more output power than is required
as input power for the device to operate.
COEFFICIENT OF PERFORMANCE (COP)
Again we must examine this parameter in the context of open and closed
systems.
In a closed system, the COP will be equal to the efficiency in a sense, but is
expressed as a ratio as follows: 1:1 (η=100%), 0.8:1 (η=80%), etc. So one
should conclude from the discussion so far, that the COP in a closed system will
never be higher than 1:1.
In an open system, the COP could be anywhere from 0.1:1 to 106:1. It all
depends on the efficiency of the device (with low COP’s), and how much energy
or power is freely added to the system from the “outside” with a given input
power.
COP in open systems is computed by taking the ratio between the freely added
“outside” power (POopen), PLUS the output power (if any) supplied by the closed
system (POclosed), to the user-supplied input power (PI).
In equation form:
COP = (POopen + POclosed)/PI OR = POtotal/PI
Do we care if we are measuring collected open-system power PLUS closed system
power on the output? No. What we care about is obtaining more total
power on the output of the DUT, than we are supplying for device operation.
OVERUNITY
As already discussed, overunity is not possible in closed systems, and therefore
can only exist in open systems. Overunity then is achieved any time a device or
system exhibits a COP>1
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