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@Smudge and @tinman
1st: The coil you mentioned I will call a @tinman coil or TC. I see ION needs some links as well.
Thanks @smudge for your synopsis. I did not see a video or formal diagram cause that thread at OU is 400 pages but based on your synopsis+image and your circuit test above, I again modified your test to show an alternative test I would really like to see how the inner TC secondary will output. Notice I use the same external inductor but it is actually a primary of a second transformer or toroid. That new secondary can load up a holding cap as long as the proper diode is hunted down and light up an LED or trickle return to source.
Also @tinman, if you add a 2.5 turn coil over your present primaries and connect it to your FG where only one lead on the TC secondary goes to one scope probe and one lead from any TC primary goes to the other scope probe only. No ground. Then play with FG frequency (can you go up to 50Mhz) and duty (I'd say not more then 30% but most likely around 11% will be best). I need to know which frequencies create the spikes on which coils and if there is one frequency that can spike all three at once. Zat iz de questiun.
Then let's say you can consider that you want to have output from all three coils of the TC. So you wind a new primary over the existing TC. You wind over the existing TC primaries three or six or nine or twelve 2.5 turn coils equally spaced (I think 3 or 6 max will do it for your small toroid), connect them in parallel and use this as the pulsed primary coil that will still have an outer primary in series as well just like in the diagram. hehehe This is what I want to see. Pulse the new primary with the outer primary in series and output from all three TCs.
Hint: In your present TC design, I gather you wound the inner secondary all the way around. One coil all around is not the best, I mean, did Tesla ever wind a primary and a secondary all around a toroid core. Can't think of any off hand. He usually thinks in quads around the wheel. Secondary or primary, they should never be wound in on shot, You should always take out one or more taps, one for halves, two for thirds, three for quads, etc.
The object of the primary in the virtual function of the transformer is to mimic the rotating magnet. Full north, no north no south, full south, no south no north and back to full north. The word "full" here designates the total primary winding surface area but as my video shows, you cannot get full in the standard AC or DC method. You can get very close if the primary has a second outer transformer primary in series before ground because this doubles the "physical" coil length so the half syndrome point is now totally off the first coil hence now providing more of a kick throughout the prime real estate that is the main core surface, hence it shifts the primary coils center point to its end and not its traditional center. Now the total length of the TC primary will be fully active changing polarity and this should produce the best output chance. This also doubles the inductance in the primary circuit so you can play around with this same design with heavier transformer primaries and have double the flyback to play with. hehehe
I foresee that the best best will be when a core design needs two primaries, one like above and a second same set but 180 degrees out of phase. So if you had two 10 turn primaries, each would pulse full positive and full negative at the same time but on their own ends and continuously alternate. That would be the closest to a spinning magnet relative to the normal vectors of influence. Dual AC 0/180 that will be the future for super pounding cores. Then when we get to using flat copper wire primaries and secondaries where a greater surface area of each turn is in contact with the core, we will get even more output because coupling is atom close. To be coupled all you really need is to go one atom left or one atom right from where you started and have your secondary one atom from those points. We see these nice drawings showing "magnetic flux movement". Bull man. It's only one influence left or right, up or down as a chain reaction of spin conveyance. That's what makes conductive materials (atoms) so special.
For those in the SM read (hic hic), this would be the closest analogy to a simplified FTPU (the only real original TPU). The center toroid, two coils on one core, each coil acts like the outer primary in the circuit and in series each have one of two outer rings as the TC primaries (one at 180 off phase) and a third outer ring wound around the first two as the secondary output. If the toroid coil length is the same as the two rings (one top one bottom) this makes two toroid coils and four rings, two top, two bottom. One toroid coil goes to one top and one bottom and the other toroid coil goes to the other one top and one bottom. Both rings are insides the top and bottom outer secondary will alternate and the rings will completely change polarity inside the secondary creating a rotating magnet inside the full length of the secondary.
Notice I did not need to use the overused words "fields" or "electrons". Oh shucks, I did it again. hahaha
Anyways, good luck.
wattsup
PS: What you see in the your scope shots is not what occurs throughout the primary. It is a differential that cannot show the true progressive decline in the pulse strength as you physically go along the primary surface area. It's like having 100 feet of shoreline but the general hidden rule is you can only access the wave energy on only 50 feet of it, so if you want 100 full feet of wave energy access, you need 200 feet of total shoreline.
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