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Wings
as always very helpful

On your link for the "MANELAS device"

"snip"
Manelas Device has been producing 60
watts For the past 20 months.

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Chet
find in http://www.hyiq.org/Updates/Update?Name=Update%2027-05-14

see the power of iron under cavitation_vibration_ferroresonance:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IZ34Wwa-AE&list=UUDHlZnJd2lQOq8vsxdFmxJQ#t=834
   
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Thanks, Mike and Wings.

I particularly enjoyed your 2nd video, Wings, regarding sonoluminescence (something I researched also years ago).
   
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I found an explanation why the palladium in the CF. Between the metals it is what captures the hydrogen more easily.

Before the discovery of cold fusion was used as a catalyst in systems with batteries to reduce the emission of hydrogen as explained in the following document see the last pictures HYDROGEN GAS MANAGEMENT FOR FLOODED LEAD ACID BATTERIES .
http://www.battcon.com/PapersFinal2008/ODonnellPaper2008PROOF_6.pdf
http://www.bater.pl/langs/bater.pl/en/recombination-plug.html

This also explains some FE experiments with HHO and catalytic converters.
http://www.overunity.com/14202/small-amount-of-hho-gas-into-automotive-catalytic-converter-yields-ou-heat/msg383128/#msg383128
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-UUnHq0gjU&list=UUi3fFZN1pwHTyM8H_nSxerg

some Nickel chemistry in:
Making Economical,Green, High-Energy Nickel-Manganese (NiMn) Batteries
http://www.saers.com/recorder/craig/TurquoiseEnergy/BatteryMaking/BatteryMaking.html
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Stmicroelectronics _ Reactor for energy generation through low energy nuclear reactions (lenr) between hydrogen and transition metals and related method of energy generation:

http://www.google.com/patents/US20130243143
   

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Lockheed will have truck size by 2017 fusion reactor using hydrogen

http://www.forbes.com/sites/williampentland/2014/10/15/lockheed-martin-claims-fusion-breakthrough-that-could-change-world-forever/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlYClniDFkM

We have to get working faster guy's :D

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Mike 8)

« Last Edit: 2014-10-24, 16:53:44 by Centraflow »


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Seems they are using two super conducting magnets to create a plasma between them, and I presume the gases in between under compression of the field. I'm sure there must be an easier way to do that ;D

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Lockheed will have truck size by 2017 fusion reactor using hydrogen

http://www.forbes.com/sites/williampentland/2014/10/15/lockheed-martin-claims-fusion-breakthrough-that-could-change-world-forever/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlYClniDFkM

We have to get working faster guy's :D

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this seems to me the other side of the moon nuclear fusion:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWWTegfPO6g
   

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I found this as an answer to your lithium question O0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BliWUHSOalU

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thanks Mike 8)

this document shows possible catalyst
http://ecatbuilder.com/catalyst
   

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The controller is here

http://ccipower.com/product-selector
UF3HX6DYBE-50-P2R00
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It's turtles all the way down
The controller is here

http://ccipower.com/product-selector
UF3HX6DYBE-50-P2R00
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Those are garden variety SCR controllers (Control Concepts was one of our competitors) that use the names "fusion" and "microfusion" as part of their advertising trade names.

There are many suppliers of SCR power controls out there, but these are not necessarily needed. I designed similar controls as part of my employment in the past.

Shortly, I will be providing information on a simple foolproof test method that anyone can put together to test the validity yay or nay of the ECAT claims. It does not use calorimetry, instead it uses a simple null balance against a control standard to determine excess heat. It will be accurate, robust and repeatable.

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Those are garden variety SCR controllers (Control Concepts was one of our competitors) that use the names "fusion" and "microfusion" as part of their advertising trade names.

There are many suppliers of SCR power controls out there, but these are not necessarily needed. I designed similar controls as part of my employment in the past.

Shortly, I will be providing information on a simple foolproof test method that anyone can put together to test the validity yay or nay of the ECAT claims. It does not use calorimetry, instead it uses a simple null balance against a control standard to determine excess heat. It will be accurate, robust and repeatable.

Regards ION

I am told that it is the one used in that test, and if you look at the photo's you can see it I think on the table next to a lap top PC.

Has a PWM via USB interface, I really do not know how it works, just quoting what I have been told by PM and passing it on O0

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 Haven't forgotten about the LENR experiments - far from it.  I've been gathering ingredients for the half-disclosed "recipe" of these experiments.  We gain clues from what the scientists analyzed for, isotopes of lithium, nickel, aluminum, and we know that hydrogen is very important and was released when LAH was heated in their "reactor."

TODAY, I finally rec'd shipments of LAH and Ni powders - the lah was particularly hard to get.

Thinking back to the Iwamura transmutation expts involving deuterium, I also obtained a small amount of LAD, where D replaces H.

Hurray!
   
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May I propose a simple setup the home experimenter can attempt for under $100 USD?

In the method shown, a Kill-A-Watt meter logs and tallies the input power, and a temperature controller maintains the target setpoint.

The reactor vessel is a Ohmite or equivalent power resistor, the ohmic value of which is chosen such that it can reach the target temperature without fuel.

First run is with no fuel or sand dummy fuel inserted into the hallow core of the resistor. One ends can be plugged with a small bit of ceramic cement, and the thermocouple can be cemented into the  core.


The other end has a removable plug of ceramic material.

No calorimetry needed here as the total power to maintain target temperature is logged.

With fuel in the core, the Kill-A-Watt meter should log 1/3 or less power required to maintain target temperature if indeed there is a heat reaction with a COP > 3.

The test can be run for example 1, 2, 5 or 10 hours in each case, whatever is desired.

The resistor may not last forever but it should last the length of the test or longer. If not, I have lots of alumina tubing and Nichrome wire on hand and can wind a resistor core.

For heat sinking of the resistor I propose the resistor assembly be placed in a small vessel and covered with sand. This will gently transport the heat to a larger surface area of the vessel through the thermal resistance of the sand. The vessel will have a fixed loss to ambient and if ambient does not change much, it should give good data.

The real problem is determining the actual magic mix of fuel used in the E-CAT.

Mike: I find it odd that they used such high current low voltage, when they could have wound the heater with finer wire and operated at mains potential. My only guess is that they did not want to deal with heater change of resistance due to excessive oxidation. This problem is eliminated with my proposed setup.


Prof Alexander Parkhomov of Lomonosov Moscow State University has published a paper describing his successful replication of the E-Cat, based on the available information about it.
   
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Wings, Thanks for the English translation.

I have run tests with tandem heaters, one with fuel, one with a dummy load and tracked them to 1 Deg C with no evidence of extra heat in the fueled heater assembly.

I am told the containers must be sealed to allow H pressure to build. I'll save that one for outdoors when the weather warms and I can build a bunker for the test.


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I think this pertains as it is updated info on the same subject.

http://www.cobraf.com/forum/immagini/R_123581963_3.pdf

The link is to a document describing why an application for patent has failed. Interesting enough it spells out much the same technical points we already brought up.
   
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