Hi GL,
You wrote:
“The other design is like the one Les posted.
Plexiglas with grooves for the plates and the gas up at the top.
So in that design you do not need any holes in the plates or any rubber gaskets.”Since you are interested to learn more about electrolysis in general and series cell electrolysers in particular, I have addressed this post to you but it is really for ALL who are interested...
(Judging by the number of 'reads' of this thread, there seem to be some interest....!
Because I started this thread, I kind of feel 'responsible' for it and the information posted here!
I try to make sure that ALL information presented here is TRUE and CORRECT!
If not, I EXPOSE false or misleading information and those who post it and I make no apologies for that!)
“So in that design you do not need any holes in the plates or any rubber gaskets.”You are absolutely correct!Before you go any further, do yourself a favour by reading my document named:
“HydrOxy-generator 'closed loop' set-up.doc”.
You should also read at least the first two pages of
“Re-filling series cell electrolysers.doc” which gives detailed info on plate thickness, grooves, leakage current, etc.
If you
REALLY want to understand how series cell electrolysers work, you should
STUDY the Patent by its inventor, Dr. William Rhodes. (US Patent 3,310,483)
I advise you to
IGNORE the following comments:
“The whole current leakage thing is another bit of rubbish by the way,...”and
“This thing about current leakage is absolute ballony.”and
“As i recall,Les is using 5mmS/S plate that slides into 6mm grooves. Unless he seals the edge of all the plates,he will have a whole lot of this (so called) current leakage around all the plate edges. He is using what is called a flooded cell design. These are old school,and quite dangerous ...”The above are clear examples of what happens when people refuse to
READ the provided info!
After all, my WFGP Folders contain 58 files of which
18 are text file documents,
holding all the necessary information for the project.Those who are seriously interested in this project are required to become familiar with the details.
ASSUMPTIONS, guesses and jumping to conclusions will not do!
The plates are 0.55mm thick, grooves are 0.6mm wide, 5 mm deep and there is NO need for gaskets or any other type of 'seal' as it is CLEARLY explained by Dr. William Rhodes!
IF you drill just ONE hole in every plate of a 139 cell unit, you know what is going to happen??
Electricity is rather 'weird', as you know! It always finds the easiest path to flow.
Where the least resistance is.
Say your holes are 5mm in diameter.
Then you have KOH electrolyte of about 20% concentration. (The saturation point is about 26%.)
20% concentration conducts like crazy!
The result??
A certain portion of your current is now flowing
through the holes, DIRECTLY between your power leads, WITHOUT passing through the plates!It is all common sense.
Current which does not produce gas is a
DEAD LOSS!
But according to 'tinman',
“current leakage is absolute ballony.”So what would you like to call this effect??
Do you still think its strange that I use colourful language when I comment on this kind of NONSENSE??
How about this one:
“He is using what is called a flooded cell design. These are old school,...”Oh yes, they are “old school” all right but most (if not all) of the so-called 'dry cells' are nothing but distortions of the original series cell principle and thus mostly unsuccessful in producing looped set-ups.
You don't have to believe any of this.
Go ahead and build some variant of a 'dry cell' with just a handful of plates, lots of bolts, holes, gaskets and what have you but don't complain if you don't get your generator to loop and produce useful extra power!
And while you are at it, don't forget to fit your automatic refill for 24/7 operation!
Cheers,
Les Banki