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Centraflow	Re: Public Release & Translation of Dutch Patents by Arie De Geus « Reply #100 on: 2014-07-29, 19:35:07 »
Group: Experimentalist Hero Member Posts: 2982	Lithium, and its hydrides, is used as high energy additives in rocket propellants, so the plot thickens, is this already used? It is well known that it is a neutron absorber in nuclear reactions, so I think a lot of work has been done on this but marked TOP SECRET regards Mike --------------------------- "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident." Arthur Schopenhauer, Philosopher, 1788-1860 As a general rule, the most successful person in life is the person that has the best information.

Peterae	Re: Public Release & Translation of Dutch Patents by Arie De Geus « Reply #101 on: 2014-07-29, 22:29:37 »
Group: Administrator Hero Member Posts: 3961	That's interesting Mike you may well be right Quote The highest specific impulse chemistry ever test-fired in a rocket engine was lithium and fluorine, with hydrogen added to improve the exhaust thermodynamics http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquid_rocket_propellants When you look at the Element Chart Arie uses, it shows Flourine as a good candidate as well for Fusion with Hydrogen The important thing then would be chamber pressure, the higher the chamber pressure the more likely and higher % Fusion energy would occur

Peterae	Re: Public Release & Translation of Dutch Patents by Arie De Geus « Reply #102 on: 2014-07-29, 22:38:57 »
Group: Administrator Hero Member Posts: 3961	It has also occurred to me that this may make a fantastic compliment to Hydrogen Peroxide decomposition, Boric acid may possibly be a good catalyst for decomposition as well negating the need for a sliver catalyst bed, if a gain of even 10 could be had then it would make a very clean compliment to a clean Rocket power system.

Centraflow	Re: Public Release & Translation of Dutch Patents by Arie De Geus « Reply #103 on: 2014-07-30, 11:56:06 »
Group: Experimentalist Hero Member Posts: 2982	I have been thinking about this some more and an idea would be to use a bingo type reactor with lithium soap in water. A base line can be achieved by running first with water and NaoH, a time/temp: graph can be drawn along with power input. The test then done again maintaining same power input with an equal amount of water with lithium soap as the ionic conductor. The two graphs placed on top of one another. If the two running conditions can be maintained equal, any change in temp/time will show a change in reaction. Here we will see the hydrogen/lithium reaction under extream conditions of a plasma ignition, if he is right then we should see a huge increase of temp: to time, also possible to see if we get OU in joules of input to heat output. regards Mike --------------------------- "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident." Arthur Schopenhauer, Philosopher, 1788-1860 As a general rule, the most successful person in life is the person that has the best information.

Centraflow	Re: Public Release & Translation of Dutch Patents by Arie De Geus « Reply #104 on: 2014-07-30, 12:26:57 »
Group: Experimentalist Hero Member Posts: 2982	I am going to put a disclaimer on my post above, you do it at your own risk. Read this first as in a plasma reactor of this type the conditions are very extream and certain conditions could be met as in below http://www.atomicarchive.com/Fusion/Fusion2.shtml regards Mike --------------------------- "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident." Arthur Schopenhauer, Philosopher, 1788-1860 As a general rule, the most successful person in life is the person that has the best information.

Peterae	Re: Public Release & Translation of Dutch Patents by Arie De Geus « Reply #105 on: 2014-07-30, 13:03:36 »
Group: Administrator Hero Member Posts: 3961	Arie knew what he was doing and emphasizes that it is a totally clean and safe technology, you still need fissionable material in your above scenario to provide excess neutrons, we never make Tritium anyway and also never have the harsh pressure/temperature conditions required. Interesting that they use Berilium though, that's probably the best element of Arie's Chart, i wonder why they don't admit cold Fussion, it must be known about with the amount of work that has been done in this area, i suppose because it's mostly military that it gets buried. Don't use Lithium Mike use Boric Acid, should be a lot easier to work with and is a lot cheaper

Peterae	Re: Public Release & Translation of Dutch Patents by Arie De Geus « Reply #106 on: 2014-08-02, 15:22:00 »
Group: Administrator Hero Member Posts: 3961	Added another Patent by Arie De Geus NL 1033078 Quote "Nuclear - Transmutation" - Processes this has 4 pages appended at end which are an independent verification of excess heating & energy. http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2469.0;attach=14539

Peterae	Re: Public Release & Translation of Dutch Patents by Arie De Geus « Reply #107 on: 2014-08-02, 16:10:06 »
Group: Administrator Hero Member Posts: 3961	It has become quiet obvious that Arie was using his Dc- AC converter (need to get this working at some point) to drive all these Nuclear Fusion experiments because of it's 99% efficiency it was easier to verify OU with such low losses, notice that the new fusion patent uses a triangular waveform to create the rotating magnetic vortex in which the fusion and Photons can be seen to swirl around the wall of the vortex. This new patent adds the possibility of making heavier atoms by the combination of some lighter elements like Aluminium, he uses Lithium, Berilium or Boron as the fusion catalysts.

Peterae	Re: Public Release & Translation of Dutch Patents by Arie De Geus « Reply #108 on: 2014-08-05, 12:00:07 »
Group: Administrator Hero Member Posts: 3961	I've just uploaded a new translation patent NL1031363 Quote Heat generator. http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2469.0;attach=14568 It's an optimization of the fusion reactor to release energy in the spectrum of Infrared region to create a heating effect, he captures some of the IR energy using special IR solar cells or Bi Metalic strips to power the device.

ion	Re: Public Release & Translation of Dutch Patents by Arie De Geus « Reply #109 on: 2014-08-05, 16:33:04 »
Group: Elite Hero Member Posts: 3537 It's turtles all the way down	Quote from: Peterae on 2014-08-05, 12:00:07 I've just uploaded a new translation patent NL1031363 http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2469.0;attach=14568 It's an optimization of the fusion reactor to release energy in the spectrum of Infrared region to create a heating effect, he captures some of the IR energy using special IR solar cells or Bi Metalic strips to power the device. I looked over this patent and find it interesting, especially the idea of a Tungsten (Wolfram) glow coil that runs without wires by induction from the main plasma arc. The bi metal electrets need more understanding. I don't pretend to understand the reactions, maybe someone else can chime in on those. This should not be that difficult to try if one is so inclined as the reactor vessel is fairly simple in construction, unlike some of his other patents of reactor vessels. Very interesting indeed as a heat source. I like this. It can be used as a heat source without the inclusion of bi metal electrets or photo cells thus making the device a lot simpler to prototype. In the patent it is shown in a looped mode for sustaining power to the arc, but a device that uses mains power and produces excess heat over input would be a great simplification. The looping can come later when a stand alone, battery initiated unit is desired. Thank you Peter (and Itsu?) for your work in translating this and wrapping it into a pdf. Regards, ION ------------------------ Public Release & Translation of Dutch Patents by Arie De Geus Reactor Vessel.jpg (60.34 kB, 562x456 - viewed 971 times.) --------------------------- "Secrecy, secret societies and secret groups have always been repugnant to a free and open society"......John F Kennedy

Peterae	Re: Public Release & Translation of Dutch Patents by Arie De Geus « Reply #110 on: 2014-08-05, 16:41:27 »
Group: Administrator Hero Member Posts: 3961	Indeed ION All of his patents beg further work, but when viewed as a collection, there are a number of improvements in each which could be combined. I already know which ones i will replicate at some point For instance in his N2 fusion reactor we can use air which is 79% N2 , if we were to consume 28.35 Litres of air we would have enough energy to heat 3430 Tons of water from 0 Deg C to 100 Deg C. and as a by product you get new elements, for instance using an Aluminium Cathode then you get pure iron. If you were to consider that air is free then that sounds like a great deal to me

ion	Re: Public Release & Translation of Dutch Patents by Arie De Geus « Reply #111 on: 2014-08-05, 17:08:07 »
Group: Elite Hero Member Posts: 3537 It's turtles all the way down	I would think Physics Prof would be very interested in this work and very close to his area of expertise. I am hoping he will add some thoughts to this page. I think I have a large cannister of welding Argon on hand, will have to check. I have 4 inch diameter Pyrex glass tubes and high temperature feed thru material, some Tungsten and Platinum wire for the glow plug. Automotive valves might work for anode and cathode (non sodium filled type). PS i amended my earlier post. --------------------------- "Secrecy, secret societies and secret groups have always been repugnant to a free and open society"......John F Kennedy

Peterae	Re: Public Release & Translation of Dutch Patents by Arie De Geus « Reply #112 on: 2014-08-05, 21:47:32 »
Group: Administrator Hero Member Posts: 3961	Cheers ION I am keeping my eyes open for parts, i salvaged a refrigerator pump before dumping an old fridge the other week, they can be used for creating a vacuum, Borosilicate tube sounds ideal Itsu has not altered the last 4 or 5 patents, they are just googled If even some of this information in these patents get used or built and tested, the world should be a totally different place. He's even got a patent for a space station with artificial gravity also a patent for treating people with energy or something, not looked at that one yet.

BEP	Re: Public Release & Translation of Dutch Patents by Arie De Geus « Reply #113 on: 2014-08-05, 22:10:19 »
Group: Guest	http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&ved=0CEgQFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Farxiv.org%2Fpdf%2F1212.0852&ei=SUThU9rTM4yRyATzjYDICw&usg=AFQjCNHYX5hHclU65kZfLmRs2172tA7HfQ&sig2=Z7e3sBQetPu-PhPLnri5-w&bvm=bv.72197243,d.aWw&cad=rja The electret is just the source of the electric field. While it is static the changing capacitance convert the motion + static charge into a source of electricity. This is induction by motion within an electric field. Some small-scale energy harvester devices use the electret or a piezo element. The bi-metal part oscillates between cold and hot areas and can be quite energetic. Nitinol would be handy with this concept. Use a Nitinol heat engine to drive the changing capacitance to produce electricity. Not sure how any of this could produce much power.

Peterae	Re: Public Release & Translation of Dutch Patents by Arie De Geus « Reply #114 on: 2014-08-05, 22:23:01 »
Group: Administrator Hero Member Posts: 3961	Hi WW He has a patent for a new electret device, this is what he refers too, i am sure i did that one see here Quote Electric energy from bi-element pairs with 'electrets', in between, optionally with electron-"polarization" and/or a "primary" permanent magnetic field added thereto. http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2469.0;attach=14138 PS I've just uploaded another translated patent Patent NL1031637 Quote Thermodynamic conversion of heat into cooling. This one is for the Refrigerant guys http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2469.0;attach=14577

ion	Re: Public Release & Translation of Dutch Patents by Arie De Geus « Reply #115 on: 2014-08-05, 22:42:35 »
Group: Elite Hero Member Posts: 3537 It's turtles all the way down	WW; The snap acting piezo converter in the paper only produces about a 5 uW sharp pulse. Better would be an acoustic Sterling driving piezo stack or electrodynamic transducer for continuous sine wave output. The snap acting generator might have some interesting applications though, not to rule it out, it is a clever device. Peter: Thanks for the latest DeGeus Rankine Cycle patent. --------------------------- "Secrecy, secret societies and secret groups have always been repugnant to a free and open society"......John F Kennedy

Peterae	Re: Public Release & Translation of Dutch Patents by Arie De Geus « Reply #116 on: 2014-08-07, 09:16:50 »
Group: Administrator Hero Member Posts: 3961	I found a European English version of the Transmutation Patent by Arie De Geus. Quote Nuclear Transmutational Processes WO02/31833 A1 I've uploaded it here http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2469.0;attach=14600

ion	Re: Public Release & Translation of Dutch Patents by Arie De Geus « Reply #117 on: 2014-08-07, 15:58:15 »
Group: Elite Hero Member Posts: 3537 It's turtles all the way down	Quote from: Peterae on 2014-08-07, 09:16:50 I found a European English version of the Transmutation Patent by Arie De Geus.WO02/31833 A1 I've uploaded it here http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2469.0;attach=14600 Nice find, Peter, and the drawings seem to have more detail. Maybe it's time we contact the DeGeus technical people to find out which of these patents / processes are theoretical, and which have been built or demonstrated in the lab with test reports. I wonder if they would co-operate or if someone there would join the forum? It would be a great help to us all. I am sure. Cheers, ION --------------------------- "Secrecy, secret societies and secret groups have always been repugnant to a free and open society"......John F Kennedy

Chet K	Re: Public Release & Translation of Dutch Patents by Arie De Geus « Reply #118 on: 2014-08-07, 16:13:34 »
Group: Ambassador Hero Member Posts: 4045	ION Quote Maybe it's time we contact the DeGeus technical people to find out which of these patents / processes are theoretical, and which have been built or demonstrated in the lab with test reports. I wonder if they would co-operate or if someone there would join the forum? -------------------------------------------------- I could not agree more.... thx Chet

ion	Re: Public Release & Translation of Dutch Patents by Arie De Geus « Reply #119 on: 2014-08-07, 16:17:19 »
Group: Elite Hero Member Posts: 3537 It's turtles all the way down	Quote from: Chet K on 2014-08-07, 16:13:34 ION Quote Maybe it's time we contact the DeGeus technical people to find out which of these patents / processes are theoretical, and which have been built or demonstrated in the lab with test reports. I wonder if they would co-operate or if someone there would join the forum? -------------------------------------------------- I could not agree more.... thx Chet I was hoping you would volunteer Chet, thanks. Cheers, ION --------------------------- "Secrecy, secret societies and secret groups have always been repugnant to a free and open society"......John F Kennedy

Peterae	Re: Public Release & Translation of Dutch Patents by Arie De Geus « Reply #120 on: 2014-08-07, 16:20:45 »
Group: Administrator Hero Member Posts: 3961	Hi ION Yes indeed a more detailed patent. Arie always says which ones have been built and working in the patents, all the fusion ones have, and the free energy ones have also. Only 1 has been independently verified, there is no one else to ask apart from Phelan and the other member of the group Wheelan I think it was. Just before Arie died he was working with a funder, they were trying to push Arie's fusion stuff commercially, When he died they continued trying to push it, and as far as i am aware they still are, not surprisingly they have to date got no where Can i ask how you acquired the borosilicate tubes, were they salvaged from something?

Peterae	Re: Public Release & Translation of Dutch Patents by Arie De Geus « Reply #121 on: 2014-08-07, 16:32:51 »
Group: Administrator Hero Member Posts: 3961	ION Did you ever listen to the radio interview of Arie http://www.americanantigravity.com/news/energy/arie-degeus-on-fusion-zero-point-energy.html

ion	Re: Public Release & Translation of Dutch Patents by Arie De Geus « Reply #122 on: 2014-08-07, 16:40:52 »
Group: Elite Hero Member Posts: 3537 It's turtles all the way down	Quote Can i ask how you acquired the borosilicate tubes, were they salvaged from something? The tubes are available as "bread making" tubes, Pyrex by Corning, "Bake A Round" #990 used for baking perfectly round loafs of bread in your oven. Probably available on ebay at low cost. There are many Pyrex vials on ebay that can be adapted. Yes, I did listen to the radio interview and would like to save it. Is there a download available? I'm trying to record the stream right now, but the quality of the original is low. --------------------------- "Secrecy, secret societies and secret groups have always been repugnant to a free and open society"......John F Kennedy

Matt Watts	Re: Public Release & Translation of Dutch Patents by Arie De Geus « Reply #123 on: 2014-08-07, 17:08:10 »
Group: Guest	Quote from: ION on 2014-08-07, 16:40:52 Yes, I did listen to the radio interview and would like to save it. Is there a download available? I'm trying to record the stream right now, but the quality of the original is low. This should work: http://www.americanantigravity.com/files/audio/Arie-DeGeus-Mar2006.mp3 Dug it out of the html file.

Peterae	Re: Public Release & Translation of Dutch Patents by Arie De Geus « Reply #124 on: 2014-08-07, 17:24:46 »
Group: Administrator Hero Member Posts: 3961	Thanks ION believe it or not, they are not sold in the UK on eBay the only bread tubes have to be imported from the US but i just stumbled on an ideal tube used for water cooling a computer The radio has a low frequency noise which maybe filterable. i will try to download it and put it up on OUR Thanks

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