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Peterae	Men in Black are stopping me from accessing my own forum :( « on: 2014-04-29, 13:10:29 »
Group: Administrator Hero Member Posts: 3961	Anyone understand tracert results. I can log in from home but from work it times out as if the website is down, i tried 2 computers at work and reset the router, ive checked to see if the server has the ip banned and it does not, my provider are saying it's not them GRRRR. Could it be the timeout in line 3 Here's a tracert Tracing route to overunityresearch.com [192.254.232.169] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms . [192.168.2.1] 2 46 ms 54 ms 39 ms lo0-central10.ptw-ag02.plus.net [195.166.128.196 ] 3 * * * Request timed out. 4 37 ms 39 ms 38 ms xe-0-2-0.ptw-cr02.plus.net [212.159.0.250] 5 39 ms 53 ms 45 ms 10gigabitethernet5-1.core1.lon1.he.net [5.57.80. 128] 6 38 ms 40 ms 49 ms 10ge3-1.core1.lon2.he.net [72.52.92.222] 7 104 ms 103 ms 112 ms 100ge1-1.core1.nyc4.he.net [72.52.92.166] 8 122 ms 121 ms 121 ms 100ge7-2.core1.chi1.he.net [184.105.223.161] 9 151 ms 150 ms 149 ms 10ge3-2.core1.den1.he.net [184.105.213.86] 10 173 ms 175 ms 174 ms 10ge4-2.core1.slc1.he.net [184.105.222.154] 11 * * * Request timed out. 12 * * * Request timed out. 13 * * * Request timed out. 14 * * * Request timed out. 15 * * * Request timed out. 16 * * * Request timed out. 17 * * * Request timed out. 18 * * * Request timed out. 19 * * * Request timed out. 20 * * * Request timed out. 21 * * * Request timed out. 22 * * * Request timed out. 23 * * * Request timed out. 24 * * * Request timed out. 25 * * * Request timed out. 26 * * * Request timed out. 27 * * * Request timed out. 28 * * * Request timed out. 29 * * * Request timed out. 30 * * * Request timed out. Trace complete. C:\Documents and Settings\Peter>TRACERT www.overunityresearch.com Tracing route to overunityresearch.com [192.254.232.169] over a maximum of 30 hops: 1 1 ms 2 ms 1 ms . [192.168.2.1] 2 35 ms 36 ms 35 ms lo0-central10.pcl-ag01.plus.net [195.166.128.182 ] 3 * * * Request timed out. 4 34 ms 35 ms 36 ms xe-10-0-0.pcl-cr01.plus.net [212.159.0.192] 5 36 ms 37 ms 37 ms ae2.pcl-cr02.plus.net [195.166.129.7] 6 35 ms 35 ms 36 ms ae1.ptw-cr02.plus.net [195.166.129.2] 7 35 ms 36 ms 37 ms 10gigabitethernet5-1.core1.lon1.he.net [5.57.80. 128] 8 37 ms 36 ms 44 ms 10ge3-1.core1.lon2.he.net [72.52.92.222] 9 105 ms 102 ms 119 ms 100ge1-1.core1.nyc4.he.net [72.52.92.166] 10 120 ms 125 ms 126 ms 100ge7-2.core1.chi1.he.net [184.105.223.161] 11 192 ms 147 ms 147 ms 10ge3-2.core1.den1.he.net [184.105.213.86] 12 170 ms 170 ms 159 ms 10ge4-2.core1.slc1.he.net [184.105.222.154] 13 * * * Request timed out. 14 * * * Request timed out. 15 * * * Request timed out. 16 * * * Request timed out. 17 * * * Request timed out. 18 * * * Request timed out. 19 * * * Request timed out. 20 * * * Request timed out. 21 * * * Request timed out. 22 * * * Request timed out. 23 * * * Request timed out. 24 * * * Request timed out. 25 * * * Request timed out. 26 * * * Request timed out. 27 * * * Request timed out. 28 * * * Request timed out. 29 * * * Request timed out. 30 * * * Request timed out. Trace complete.

Matt Watts	Re: Men in Black are stopping me from accessing my own forum :( « Reply #1 on: 2014-04-29, 13:47:02 »
Group: Guest	Peter, Trace route uses UDP protocol by default and really needs to be enabled on all devices along the path in order to be conclusive. There could well be a routing issue somewhere along the line. Also, keep in mind many routers are actually firewalls and it's quite common to see some of them mis-configured. How long have you been unable to connect from work?

Farmhand	Re: Men in Black are stopping me from accessing my own forum :( « Reply #2 on: 2014-04-29, 13:47:39 »
Group: Guest	I've not been able to log on or even load this website here while using my desktop computer for a long time now, but I can log on using my laptop on the same network, just recently (last two days) i've been unable to load up the overunity.com website as well now with the desktop computer. However I have a mobile wireless broadband "hotspot" device, and with it my desktop computer will load up all sites, so it seems the problem with the wired broadband provider, the wired broadband is provided by a different provider than the wireless broadband. To recap, when using my desktop computer connected to a wired network I have been unable to load up this site for a long time, now since just recently I can not load up the overunity.com site either. Something is not working. But I don't think it is in the site code because now overunity.com won't work either and it's only with this one computer and these two sites on my wired broadband connection. Quite odd.

Peterae	Re: Men in Black are stopping me from accessing my own forum :( « Reply #3 on: 2014-04-29, 13:56:09 »
Group: Administrator Hero Member Posts: 3961	Hi Farmhand OH sorry to hear that, not sure why it is. Matt Was like it when i got into work this morning, it's not just this site, seems to be all my hosted websites and hence i cannot read any email accounts, right now i am remoting from work to my home comp and surfing that way, which is alright until the Mrs starts playing Candy Crush

Matt Watts	Re: Men in Black are stopping me from accessing my own forum :( « Reply #4 on: 2014-04-29, 13:57:29 »
Group: Guest	And it could well be the "Internet Kill Switch" we have heard talk about has multiple settings to slowly block people out. Sites like this one with real people doing real research would obviously be a target. I would start to get real suspicious if after a few days, things do not return to normal.

Peterae	Re: Men in Black are stopping me from accessing my own forum :( « Reply #5 on: 2014-04-29, 14:00:42 »
Group: Administrator Hero Member Posts: 3961	Wow there will be trouble if that happens. anyone know if there's a tool i can diagnose with.?

Paul-R	Re: Men in Black are stopping me from accessing my own forum :( « Reply #6 on: 2014-04-29, 14:04:13 »
Hero Member Posts: 1579	There may be some temporary congestion in that "area" involving the site's host and your office If they want to kill you, then they'll kill you. They don't need to be fancy. Why haven't they killed the CEO of Nissan for producing the Leaf? « Last Edit: 2014-04-29, 14:30:10 by Paul-R »

Peterae	Re: Men in Black are stopping me from accessing my own forum :( « Reply #7 on: 2014-04-29, 14:09:58 »
Group: Administrator Hero Member Posts: 3961	I think you are right Paul, they can only block a person by ip address and i have changed that, it has to be that tracert No3 which is plusnet my provider, I've opened a ticket says it can take 19 hours GRRR.

Grumage	Re: Men in Black are stopping me from accessing my own forum :( « Reply #8 on: 2014-04-29, 14:15:57 »
Group: Renaissance Man Hero Member Posts: 2765	Dear Peter. You may, or may not be aware of the passing of what has become known as "The gagging law" here in the UK. ?? Part of the brief was to ban access to what was termed as "Esoteric" web sites. Mainly aimed at the reduction of Pornography but "Esoteric" could be expanded to all sites that don't quite fit the Governments ideas of what our society should be reading about. It would seem that quite a number of ISP's are already "towing the line" and switching off certain WWW sites they feel are Esoteric !! Just a thought. Cheers Grum. --------------------------- Nanny state ? Left at the gate !!

Centraflow	Re: Men in Black are stopping me from accessing my own forum :( « Reply #9 on: 2014-04-29, 15:15:47 »
Group: Experimentalist Hero Member Posts: 2982	Peter, I have at times had similar problems and always just after certain comunications with third parties that just might be deemed by listeners in to be a bit near the point that they do not like. One time they completely wiped my files and that was when I was away for a few days. My computor was off but was accessed remotely by switching it on when connected via the router, sometimes I find my computor on when it has been off, I now disconnect the router as well when I go away. My neighbour is a programmer and he went through my computor and found an auto download program, this by exterior switch on was downloading files to a holding point where later they would be collected, no way of knowing by whom. Things in this day and age that we have to live with, but now I am careful not to hold important things on my computor, I have two and the other one is never connected to the net. Regards Mike --------------------------- "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident." Arthur Schopenhauer, Philosopher, 1788-1860 As a general rule, the most successful person in life is the person that has the best information.

Peterae	Re: Men in Black are stopping me from accessing my own forum :( « Reply #10 on: 2014-04-29, 15:42:14 »
Group: Administrator Hero Member Posts: 3961	Indeed, makes these pen drive bootable systems appear very handy at times.

stprue	Re: Men in Black are stopping me from accessing my own forum :( « Reply #11 on: 2014-04-29, 16:51:22 »
Full Member Posts: 209	This about it positively, it probably means we are close to figuring out OU with one of the devices.

e2matrix	Re: Men in Black are stopping me from accessing my own forum :( « Reply #12 on: 2014-04-29, 18:37:18 »
Sr. Member Posts: 345	As a computer and network tech for many decades I'll toss in my view on this. First thing I would try is to get Tails ( https://tails.boum.org/ ) which will get you on Onion routing and most likely bypass any blocks. It is also one of your best annonymous setups and a complete very secure Linux OS which can be booted from a CD/DVD or USB pen drive. You could also get the TOR browser by itself here: https://www.torproject.org/ which also is very secure. However since both of those will take some download time here are some other things to try that are quicker and simpler. Get Security Kiss Tunnel or Spotflux which are both excellent free proxy programs and should bypass any blocks. Small and they work well. Security Kiss is limited to 300 MB / day unless you subscribe but that would be plenty for email and forum work. Spotflux is unlimited free but has pop ads any time you open a new web page - not that bad really. Another yet even easier thing to try is to change your DNS settings to use Googles DNS servers : 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 This might get you around some of the problems just by changing these in your Control panel > network options. Some other causes of these problems can be your hosts servers or the servers along a route to your intended destination IP. While the Internet is supposed to go around such issues as these sometimes things get bad enough for a while (usually less than a day) that you may not be able to reach a few destinations from your location. If you try the Tails though it should get around most of this. Hopefully this is not a sign the the Net Neutrality ruling that just passed this week thanks to F***ING companies like Verizon and Comcast. They are the Internets worst ENEMIES. My suggestion is that if you have a Verizon phone - change to another company. If you have Comcast change to any of the many other ways to get your content. Two more quick notes. If you are trying out Tails or a Tor browser you will likely find Internet speeds to be slower but not generally a problem for forum browsing or low bandwidth surfing. One other smaller and extremely secure Linux OS that is setup with the TOR network is Liberty Linux. It's a complete OS with industrial strength security (it even wipes your RAM when you shutdown - or did you think shutting off your computer that RAM was safe just 'cause you pull the plug when the MIB's coming busting in on you ? LOL - think freeze spray ... ) - and is still lightweight in size coming in at only about 220 Megabytes - easy and fairly fast boot even from a slow USB pendrive. Liberty Linux is here: http://dee.su/liberte

e2matrix	Re: Men in Black are stopping me from accessing my own forum :( « Reply #13 on: 2014-04-29, 18:55:20 »
Sr. Member Posts: 345	Just another quick note for anyone who wants to try Tails (I highly recommend) is to choose 'Windows camouflage' when it asks if you want more options on the initial bootup. Choose yes to more options and if you choose Windows camo it will make the whole OS a lot more like Windows for anyone who has not used Linux much. Tails was just today released in version 1.0 but it has been around a long while. It is well supported and updated often. For anyone wishing to use this as a multiboot option I recommend going to www.pendrivelinux.com and getting the free Yumi multiboot installer. Best thing that has every happened for multiboot. While it is intended for USB pendrives or external USB hard drive I found it also works with internal hard drives but don't try using it on your already installed Windows OS.

e2matrix	Re: Men in Black are stopping me from accessing my own forum :( « Reply #14 on: 2014-04-29, 19:12:24 »
Sr. Member Posts: 345	Wouldn't you know it? The first time I've ever seen a problem getting the Tails download is today. I just went there to grab it myself but it seems 1.0 is missing at the moment. If you want to grab there previous version to try it out it is here: http://dl.amnesia.boum.org/tails/stable/tails-i386-0.23/ which is about 940 Megabytes so depending on your D/L speed you might want to wait until they get 1.0 up or you can probably get 1.0 from their torrent download link. NEVERMIND It seems they have already fixed the 1.0 direct download - it's working again.

Peterae	Re: Men in Black are stopping me from accessing my own forum :( « Reply #15 on: 2014-04-29, 20:47:24 »
Group: Administrator Hero Member Posts: 3961	Wow e2matrix Thanks ever so much, i will try some of that when i get to work, i look forward to trying tails especially Cheers Peter

BEP	Re: Men in Black are stopping me from accessing my own forum :( « Reply #16 on: 2014-04-30, 11:24:33 »
Group: Guest	Try.... tracert -d -4 -h 40 www.overunityresearch.com > our.txt then.... type our.txt \|more More often than not, WindBlows is showing prowess (not) on avoiding confusion of IPV6 in a process, domain name resolution round-robin problems and circular logic results. I can have very similar traceroute results from my WindBlow$ box and a perfectly clean result from my OpenBSD boxen. Don't add more fluff to Micr0$not products. They have enough already embedded.

Peterae	Re: Men in Black are stopping me from accessing my own forum :( « Reply #17 on: 2014-04-30, 20:07:00 »
Group: Administrator Hero Member Posts: 3961	Hi WaveW Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600] (C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp. C:\Documents and Settings\Peter>tracert -d -4 -h 40 www.overunityresearch.com > our.txt C:\Documents and Settings\Peter> C:\Documents and Settings\Peter>type our.txt \|more Tracing route to overunityresearch.com [192.254.232.169] over a maximum of 40 hops: 1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.2.1 2 36 ms 36 ms 37 ms 195.166.128.182 3 * * * Request timed out. 4 37 ms 36 ms 35 ms 212.159.0.192 5 42 ms 38 ms 36 ms 195.166.129.7 6 67 ms 35 ms 35 ms 195.166.129.2 7 36 ms 39 ms 49 ms 5.57.80.128 8 39 ms 36 ms 38 ms 72.52.92.222 9 102 ms 101 ms 113 ms 72.52.92.166 10 119 ms 120 ms 119 ms 184.105.223.161 11 149 ms 149 ms 149 ms 184.105.213.86 12 160 ms 162 ms 160 ms 184.105.222.154 13 * * * Request timed out. 14 * * * Request timed out. 15 * * * Request timed out. 16 * * * Request timed out. 17 * * * Request timed out. 18 * * * Request timed out. 19 * * * Request timed out. 20 * * * Request timed out. 21 * * * Request timed out. 22 * * * Request timed out. 23 * * * Request timed out. 24 * * * Request timed out. 25 * * * Request timed out. 26 * * * Request timed out. 27 * * * Request timed out. 28 * * * Request timed out. 29 * * * Request timed out. 30 * * * Request timed out. 31 * * * Request timed out. 32 * * * Request timed out. 33 * * * Request timed out. 34 * * * Request timed out. 35 * * * Request timed out. 36 * * * Request timed out. 37 * * * Request timed out. 38 * * * Request timed out. 39 * * * Request timed out. 40 * * * Request timed out. Trace complete. C:\Documents and Settings\Peter> Thanks Peter

Peterae	Re: Men in Black are stopping me from accessing my own forum :( « Reply #18 on: 2014-04-30, 20:18:07 »
Group: Administrator Hero Member Posts: 3961	and from home where it works Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600] (C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp. C:\Documents and Settings\Peter Evans>tracert -d -4 -h 40 www.overunityresearch. com > our.txt C:\Documents and Settings\Peter Evans>type our.txt \|more Tracing route to overunityresearch.com [192.254.232.169] over a maximum of 40 hops: 1 42 ms 99 ms 99 ms 192.168.1.254 2 16 ms 15 ms 34 ms 195.166.128.188 3 15 ms 15 ms 15 ms 212.159.2.184 4 15 ms 15 ms 15 ms 212.159.0.216 5 15 ms 27 ms 46 ms 195.166.129.7 6 16 ms 16 ms 14 ms 195.166.129.2 7 15 ms 24 ms 22 ms 5.57.80.128 8 28 ms 22 ms 27 ms 72.52.92.222 9 150 ms 83 ms 91 ms 72.52.92.166 10 98 ms 98 ms 98 ms 184.105.223.161 11 216 ms 130 ms 131 ms 184.105.213.86 12 140 ms 149 ms 150 ms 184.105.222.154 13 142 ms 143 ms 149 ms 66.160.133.118 14 143 ms 180 ms 143 ms 199.58.196.65 15 * * * Request timed out. 16 142 ms 143 ms 142 ms 192.254.232.169 Trace complete. C:\Documents and Settings\Peter Evans>

Peterae	Re: Men in Black are stopping me from accessing my own forum :( « Reply #19 on: 2014-04-30, 20:26:14 »
Group: Administrator Hero Member Posts: 3961	Wow now i am getting paranoid, I've been tracking someone for days near San Francisco who has been reading my explosion's in a wire experiments, and when i look up the IP that's denying me 66.160.133.118. I cant remember the IP address now, better keep an eye out

e2matrix	Re: Men in Black are stopping me from accessing my own forum :( « Reply #20 on: 2014-04-30, 20:54:10 »
Sr. Member Posts: 345	I assume you've asked at work if they are blocking any IP address ranges ? For the IP you listed in the last post: From whois.com IP : 66.160.133.118 belongs to: NetRange: 66.160.128.0 - 66.160.207.255 CIDR: 66.160.128.0/18, 66.160.192.0/20 OriginAS: AS6939 NetName: HURRICANE-7 NetHandle: NET-66-160-128-0-1 Parent: NET-66-0-0-0-0 NetType: Direct Allocation RegDate: 2003-10-09 Updated: 2012-02-24 Ref: http://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-66-160-128-0-1 OrgName: Hurricane Electric, Inc. OrgId: HURC Address: 760 Mission Court City: Fremont StateProv: CA PostalCode: 94539 Country: US RegDate: Updated: 2011-04-13 Ref: http://whois.arin.net/rest/org/HURC ReferralServer: rwhois://rwhois.he.net:4321 OrgTechHandle: ZH17-ARIN OrgTechName: Hurricane Electric OrgTechPhone: +1-510-580-4100 OrgTechEmail: @he.net OrgTechRef: http://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/ZH17-ARIN OrgAbuseHandle: ABUSE1036-ARIN OrgAbuseName: Abuse Department OrgAbusePhone: +1-510-580-4100 OrgAbuseEmail: @he.net OrgAbuseRef: http://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/ABUSE1036-ARIN RAbuseHandle: ABUSE1036-ARIN RAbuseName: Abuse Department RAbusePhone: +1-510-580-4100 RAbuseEmail: @he.net RAbuseRef: http://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/ABUSE1036-ARIN RTechHandle: ZH17-ARIN RTechName: Hurricane Electric RTechPhone: +1-510-580-4100 RTechEmail: @he.net RTechRef: http://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/ZH17-ARIN RNOCHandle: ZH17-ARIN RNOCName: Hurricane Electric RNOCPhone: +1-510-580-4100 RNOCEmail: @he.net RNOCRef: http://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/ZH17-ARIN

e2matrix	Re: Men in Black are stopping me from accessing my own forum :( « Reply #21 on: 2014-04-30, 20:57:59 »
Sr. Member Posts: 345	If you want to get really paranoid about all those watching get this nice little network traffic watch program : http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/network_traffic_view.html It's a free program too.

Peterae	Re: Men in Black are stopping me from accessing my own forum :( « Reply #22 on: 2014-04-30, 21:02:30 »
Group: Administrator Hero Member Posts: 3961	Thanks but i better not start monitoring traffic So is it the one before timeout or the first timeout that's blocking me, is this common and no we don't block any IP's at work it's only me What do i need to do, contact the tech email address above. Thanks for your help e2matrix, i cant even read any email without remoting into my home comp.

Grumpy	Re: Men in Black are stopping me from accessing my own forum :( « Reply #23 on: 2014-04-30, 22:11:50 »
Group: Tinkerer Hero Member Posts: 3948 tExB=qr	Peter, Move that exploding wire experiment to a members only area. If you still have the items for that experiment you can make something very interesting with it.

BEP	Re: Men in Black are stopping me from accessing my own forum :( « Reply #24 on: 2014-05-01, 02:07:54 »
Group: Guest	Peter, From your results I strongly suspect that your work gateway, or your work provider, is intentionally not replying to pings. This also breaks conventional traceroutes. However, there does appear to be a packet dropping issue between Ace Data Centers and WebSiteWelcome He.net is a major backbone and colocation provider but I doubt they are tier-1. The person viewing your exploding wire experiments 'IS' your colocation provider's internet upstream provider (Ace Data Centers). Use HE's looking-glass to traceroute from other points for more troubleshooting. ( lg.he.net )

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