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10KW - Quantum Energy Generator - open source « on: 2014-03-27, 07:57:33 »
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What do people think of this? .. they are calling it the Quantum Energy Generator QEG

http://hopegirl2012.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/qeg-user-manual-3-25-14.pdf .

Its an open source design now ... But what is really is the Timothy Thraps 10KW generator seen here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgEsSOphlp8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ztt3R4Bu_0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFu-s6ZmGyE

I have drawn up a simplified schematic (attached) as theirs is confusing.

   
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Re: 10KW - Quantum Energy Generator - open source « Reply #1 on: 2014-03-27, 11:15:07 »

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This rings a bit like Plantinum Investments motor generator here in Valencia, of which I have heard no more of the visit pending by me and Sterling!!!

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Re: 10KW - Quantum Energy Generator - open source « Reply #2 on: 2014-03-27, 14:54:34 »

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Tons of disinformation on this page:

http://hopegirl2012.wordpress.com/2014/02/11/qeg-we-are-serious-and-we-are-making-it-happen/

Tesla did not support that JP Morgan had done anything to suppress his work.  In Tesla's own words, JP Morgan fullfilled his obligations to the letter.

They tout the homopolar generators as generating their own energy.

No test data exists, that I have been able to find, so, here we go again...
   
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Re: 10KW - Quantum Energy Generator - open source « Reply #3 on: 2014-03-27, 14:58:16 »

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Re: 10KW - Quantum Energy Generator - open source « Reply #4 on: 2014-03-28, 01:18:51 »
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HopeGirl et. all. have good intentions but are the opposite of scientific and have made all sorts of claims and associations to Tesla and anything else they can think of. Noe of this is helpful or relevant.

The Tesla link is simple from the fact that the physical arrangement of coils and cores matches an AC generator/motor -- totally irrelevant when you look at the way the QEG is wired and claimed to operate.... heck, with the 4 coils on a toroidal core you could also claim its a TPU (which its not).

That's why I redid the schematic -- to focus attention on the core configuration free from all the distracting nonsense.
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Ignoring all the irrelevant crap this configuration is still intriguing.



   
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Re: 10KW - Quantum Energy Generator - open source « Reply #5 on: 2014-03-28, 03:05:43 »
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I don't see how it's doing anything different, other than turning real power into reactive power. Maybe it is doing something special, but I do not see it as of yet. Could someone explain better?
   
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Re: 10KW - Quantum Energy Generator - open source « Reply #6 on: 2014-04-08, 04:57:35 »
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Attached is their open-source "build" document.

Is there a discussion among replicators? on another forum perhaps?
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Re: 10KW - Quantum Energy Generator - open source « Reply #7 on: 2014-04-08, 13:17:45 »

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Is this not what Tesla patented ??

cheers Grum.

PS. Sorry just jumped in there !!  Mike had already spotted the same thing !!  O0


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Re: 10KW - Quantum Energy Generator - open source « Reply #8 on: 2014-04-08, 13:41:01 »
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Can you explain that diagram of Tesla's, Grum?  thx.

This from gofundme.  From what I understand, the QEG folks do NOT YET have a working prototype! -- is this correct?  no working prototype?


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Hello FTW QEG Friends and Supporters! We are very excited to bring you this update. Because of your awesome support we have been able to accomplish many amazing things for humanity!

Here it comes!!!.....The Open Source plans for the QEG will be available at this link by March 25th.
http://fixtheworldproject.net/quantum-energy-generator.html

We have close to 200 inquiries in over 20 countries from people who intend to create their own cottage industry community unit (CICU) for QEG manufacturing and distribution! We are in the process of gathering contact info and connecting people to make this a reality.

But our most exciting news is this...Using the funds raised in our campaign, FTW was able to donate a QEG to the village of Aouchtam in Morocco. The QEG will run a well and supply over 300 people with running water! In addition, the village will be creating their own QEG CICU to manufacture and distribute QEG’s to all of North Africa! For more info on this, please see this link: http://www.gofundme.com/7hyss4

And this.....We are leaving soon to bring the QEG to the world! We will be training 25 students in a factory in Taiwan to build QEG’s. And....Hope Girl will be presenting the QEG at Cobra’s conference in Taiwan http://portal2012.org/Taiwan.html and at the Alchemy Event conference in London. http://fixtheworldproject.net/alchemy-event-conference.html

Upon our return in May we will be working out pre-orders for QEG’s and assisting the start up of CICU’s, bringing a QEG CICU to a village near you!

So....Things are about to really take off and we couldn’t have done it without your love and support. We are so appreciative and honored to co-create this amazing breakthrough with all of you! Thank you so very much.

Hope and family :)

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Four months ago, FTW boldly went where many have tried to go before. We embarked on a mission to create a free energy device that will be distributed directly to the people. We call this device the Quantum Energy Generator, or QEG. I am now here, living on the property where the QEG is being assembled, observing its progress. It is almost complete, and we will soon be flipping the switch that can change the world.

The QEG is a crisp, clean, and modern device based on Tesla’s public domain design and built with incredible engineering precision (for example it has over 300 precision cut steel plates each at 18 ½ 1,000ths of an inch thick). The QEG is portable, the size of an average home generator, can easily hook up to your existing electrical system, and weighs approximately 120 pounds. The QEG can power your entire home, several of them can power anything from a skyscraper to a cruise ship, and you will never have to pay an electric bill ever again.

Let’s take this a step further and think about the millions of people in our world that live without a source of power. No refrigeration to store food. No power to purify their drinking water. No power to give them access to the internet or communications with the rest of the world. No power to create and store medicines that could save their lives. How could the QEG change their lives?

So far we have created contracted agreements for local grassroots distribution to individuals and communities in the following countries: China, Japan, Malaysia, Indonesia, Canada, United Kingdom, Oman, Lebanon, United States and other countries now coming on board. We have developed critical relationships with members of the Breakthrough Energy Movement conference, who have said “don’t worry, if for some reason it doesn’t work, we will come over there and help you make it work.” Our plans are to travel to these local communities, teach them how to build these devices for themselves in small local workshops with teams of their own engineers, and open source the plans and complete instruction manual. Of course it should only be a skilled professional engineer that should build these devices. After all, this does sort of fit into the category of “rocket science.”

WE HAVE AN URGENT NEED FOR YOUR HELP AT THIS TIME TO COMPLETE THE NEXT STAGE OF THIS PROCESS SO THAT WE CAN BEGIN TO TAKE PRE-ORDERS.

At this stage we are trying to raise $20,000 to finish this monumental project and bridge the GAP to its grassroots cottage industry distribution. To do this we want to build 2 more QEG’s to present to some of the poorest communities who can receive the highest benefits a device like this can offer. Below is a breakdown of our needs:

$14,000 = all inclusive cost of building 2 QEG’s at $7,000 each.
$6,000 = for additional equipment needed: oscilloscope, drill press, arbor press, current clamp.
(the inventor used to work in a fully equipped lab for 26 years and has since left the lab to work on the QEG. This equipment is needed to replace what he no longer has access to)


We cannot do this alone, this is a breakthrough brought to the people, by the love and donations of the people.

PRE-ORDERS WILL BE LIMITED. SO THOSE WHO DONATE TO THE CAMPAIGN AT THIS TIME WILL BE THE FIRST IN LINE.

If you have any inquiries regarding the QEG please contact us at fixtheworldproject@hotmail.com



IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A DONATION VIA PAYPAL PLEASE CLICK HERE:

http://hopegirl2012.wordpress.com/donate-to-the-qeg/
   
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Re: 10KW - Quantum Energy Generator - open source « Reply #9 on: 2014-04-08, 13:56:23 »
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More from HopeGirl at gofundme:

Please see the following schedule below for QEG distribution and HopeGirl availability:


-The QEG will be open sourced by March 25.
-Full sets of documents including guidelines for how to start your own CICU will be published on the Fix the World Website by March 25.
-HopeGirl will be presenting the QEG to the world at the Alchemy Event Conference in April.
-HopeGirl and the QEG team will be traveling for the month of April and will have limited availability during this time until our return in May.
-Pre-orders for a limited number of QEG’s will commence in the middle of May.
-Consulting services to assist CICU start up’s for QEG’s will commence in the middle of May.
   
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Re: 10KW - Quantum Energy Generator - open source « Reply #10 on: 2014-04-08, 14:08:30 »

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Quote from: PhysicsProf on 2014-04-08, 13:41:01

Can you explain that diagram of Tesla's, Grum?  thx.


Dear PhysicsProf.

The picture I posted was a screenshot captured from Tesla's full patent.       http://www.teslauniverse.com/nikola-tesla-patents-555,190-alternating-motor

T-1000 suggested that this motor design (Hidden in plain sight !!) May well be the key to an OU device. I feel that he could better explain the MO, than I !!

I am pretty sure that Farmhand has also built a transformer to this same principle ?? He is just missing the rotor !!  ;)

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Re: 10KW - Quantum Energy Generator - open source « Reply #11 on: 2014-04-08, 19:27:54 »

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOOrvLP2u2Y

Here they are firing up for the first time in Taiwan on their trip to teach how to build this. The faces have now been blurred due to possible problems, this was built there by these students.

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Re: 10KW - Quantum Energy Generator - open source « Reply #12 on: 2014-04-10, 06:00:38 »
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Woopy-jump has joined the study, with this little vid:

http://www.youtube.com/attribution_link?a=f3iOsLIUmAo&u=/watch%3Fv%3DmLK1VG8h2Wc%26feature%3Dem-uploademail

How does tapping the core (with just one winding) generate a significant voltage in the winding?  interesting.  I should like to try this.
   
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Re: 10KW - Quantum Energy Generator - open source « Reply #13 on: 2014-04-10, 14:20:25 »

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Quote from: PhysicsProf on 2014-04-10, 06:00:38
Woopy-jump has joined the study, with this little vid:

http://www.youtube.com/attribution_link?a=f3iOsLIUmAo&u=/watch%3Fv%3DmLK1VG8h2Wc%26feature%3Dem-uploademail

How does tapping the core (with just one winding) generate a significant voltage in the winding?  interesting.  I should like to try this.

Steven, that brings to mind hitting a piece of steel with a hammer and making it into a magnet, though here it is laminated steel and so does not maintain its magnetism, as in a transformer. So if we can make the laminars ring, albeit for a split second, it will induce a current into a coil. A piece of ferrite with coil wound on it will also show the same effect if you hit the ferrite, though here you need to make it ring at a higher frequency with something like a piezo. Similar is your simple quartz lighter which generates a huge spike and so spark which lights your gas, perhaps we should get a large piece of quartz and rap two coils around it, one to act like a resonant hammer and the other to extract the energy :D

Joking apart, this I am sure is what is seen in many unusual effects "NMR", the point is to get to the avalanche effect of this O0

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Re: 10KW - Quantum Energy Generator - open source « Reply #14 on: 2014-04-10, 15:05:52 »

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I'm going to stick my neck out and say that the QEG looks like the real thing, and that the "witts" machine would also be the real thing, (one of the same), that would put some egg on some faces

What I like about the last video that I posted here is that change in noise, if you think about it, it is what you would expect, a forceful resonant drone type noise, the only thing is we do not know what that does as far as load on that DC drive motor, or does it not see any extra load? maybe it is a reactive load!!

If this does work, it would not be very expensive to build on a production line, and if the cat is out of the bag, how would it be stopped. If I had the money I would build one, it will be interesting how this is going to pan out ??? it's not that complicated unlike a lot of electronic items that seem to be operating in the same area if you think about it.

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Re: 10KW - Quantum Energy Generator - open source « Reply #15 on: 2014-04-10, 20:03:35 »
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What I like about the last video that I posted here is that change in noise, if you think about it, it is what you would expect, a forceful resonant drone type noise, the only thing is we do not know what that does as far as load on that DC drive motor, or does it not see any extra load? maybe it is a reactive load!!

I did some tests using a regular three phase induction motor as a generator and it too would drone when the right combination of capacitance and shaft speed was applied.  However in this case, any electrical load applied to the generator would be pushed back mechanically to the prime mover.  So I have to wonder about Sterling Allan's QoMoGen concept--is it possible to convert an existing motor into a QEG?  There are some fairly large differences in mechanical design and the QEG uses pretty high voltage.  I can't help but think there is a fundamental concept at play; one that can be engineered if we fully understood it.  Making QEGs from existing motors would accelerate the adoption of this concept ten fold if we knew the trick.


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Re: 10KW - Quantum Energy Generator - open source « Reply #16 on: 2014-04-10, 20:30:13 »
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Intriguing observations, Matt and Mike.

Today, I've done an experiment related I think to the QEG acoustical resonance:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mda5OG3d0Is

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Yesterday, woopyjump showed (on youtube) that simply tapping an iron core would generate a voltage in a winding around that core (MOT secondary). Rather surprising result. So I'm trying a variation of his experiment.
Using the secondary of a Tesla coil system that I've had for years, I place an iron core down the center = a heavy window weight that I had. Weighs about ten pounds.
Sure enough, when I tap the weight, or just rub it with pliers, a ringing sound (acoustic resonance) is set up in the iron -- and there is a voltage produced across the coil, as seen on the oscilloscope. I'm seeing 15-20 V peak-to-peak quite often.
This observation, which I don't fully understand, appears consistent with an important claim of the QEG team, as we seek a new path to generating significant electrical power.

Mike, notice that I get a voltage-signal simply while rubbing the iron core, setting up a ringing sound in the iron. 
Why is that?
   
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Re: 10KW - Quantum Energy Generator - open source « Reply #17 on: 2014-04-10, 20:45:30 »

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Dear PhysicsProf.

Interesting video. I too discovered a similar phenomenon with Ferrite cores.

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ql2zfs5vevM        Skip to the last 3 mins or so !!   :)

I wonder what you would see if you suspended that window "sash weight" from a string and it was able to truly ring ??

Another observation regarding this SEG is the Torroidal nature of the core. Reminiscent of a TPU ??   ;)

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Re: 10KW - Quantum Energy Generator - open source « Reply #18 on: 2014-04-10, 22:13:14 »
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Very interesting demonstration Steven and Grum.

Suppose for a moment we have a split toroid or two U-shape cores, with each half wrapped with a coil for collecting output power.  Then we stand these two halves up, aligned as though they were a complete core.  Now lets induce a resonant force from a piezo transducer to the top core only, very near one gap but only against the top core.  The idea here is to create a sliding motion between the two core faces where the gap is.  Now I'm rather certain if we have surface-to-surface contact, mechanically this will wear out rapidly, but we could try various materials within the gaps to see if the sliding vibration can be sustained while achieving optimal power output from the two coils.

Something about the resonant force vector being perpendicular to the core flux, rings a bell, so to speak.  The Ed Leedskalnin Perpetual Motion Holder experiment got me thinking the atomic or molecular energy is already present at steady state; all we need to do is create the vibration without breaking the gap to induce current flow.  I would bet if you modified the PMH experiment by placing ball bearings in the gaps on both sides, charged the coils with a single impulse and vibrated the keeper side-to-side, you would get electrical energy back out of the coils.  Properly designed, the input energy needed to sustain the vibration would be far less than the output power from the coils.   This is all just a hunch, but an experiment worth trying.
   
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Intriguing observations, Matt and Mike.

Today, I've done an experiment related I think to the QEG acoustical resonance:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mda5OG3d0Is

Mike, notice that I get a voltage-signal simply while rubbing the iron core, setting up a ringing sound in the iron. 
Why is that?

Those sash cord weights are cast iron, very crystallised, just a small movement is going to cause vibration of those iron crystals. If you break any old cast iron you will see what I mean about crystal structure, it will amplify like a bell. Now is that telling us something? how for example the TPU really works! SM said it was so simple (and it vibrated), what was being vibrated inside the coil? think crystal structure ??? certainly not a soft metal like copper, but what is used in a speaker movement generating 3D sound waves. Just thinking aloud on that last part ;)

Nice demo also Grum, and interesting about the air gap, seems very important with the ferrite you were using. Nickel might be an interesting metal to try C.C

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Re: 10KW - Quantum Energy Generator - open source « Reply #20 on: 2014-04-11, 03:02:06 »
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  I note that you previously observed this effect in ferrite, Grum -- nice going.

Again, interesting observations, Mike.  Odd if this relates somehow to the TPU.

I wonder if the sound makes the domain boundaries shift in such a way that transient, rapidly changing B fields are produced...
   
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Those sash cord weights are cast iron, very crystallised, just a small movement is going to cause vibration of those iron crystals. If you break any old cast iron you will see what I mean about crystal structure, it will amplify like a bell. Now is that telling us something? how for example the TPU really works! SM said it was so simple (and it vibrated), what was being vibrated inside the coil? think crystal structure ??? certainly not a soft metal like copper, but what is used in a speaker movement generating 3D sound waves. Just thinking aloud on that last part ;)

Nice demo also Grum, and interesting about the air gap, seems very important with the ferrite you were using. Nickel might be an interesting metal to try C.C

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Dear Mike.

I ran a small foundry business for nearly 25 years and was involved with larger Foundries also. Those sash weights were made in the thousands and quickly too. In order to get a fast metal flow into the mould they would heavily "Lace" the molten Iron with a substance called Ferro Silicon. This material had the effect of making the Iron more fluid however the down side was that the finished product was VERY brittle and virtually un machineable !!

I wonder if this effect, as you say is related to the crystalline structure that was created by the addition of the Silicon ?? Rather than just the Iron ??

Just a thought.

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Intriguing observations, Matt and Mike.
Today, I've done an experiment related I think to the QEG acoustical resonance:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mda5OG3d0Is

When you load the coil with 100 ohm resistor, what voltage do you see on the scope, please?
   
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Re: 10KW - Quantum Energy Generator - open source « Reply #23 on: 2014-04-11, 15:01:56 »
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Hi everyone,

I've been testing the effects of the QEG.
It coincides (like woopy) I have also thought of using a MOT for its high Inductance coil to see if I can produce some of the effects claimed.
I can confirm that there is a real effects. This looks to have real potential.

I made a video demo of my setup so you can see that I'm not just talking. However, I did not feel comfortable to demonstrate the Resonance as my particular test setup may not be able to handle such vibrations. When it first happened it scared me and I quickly pulled the plug as my 100 pound safety box was vibrating like a jackhammer.

Of course I'll be doing more tests but I thought to share my test rig and basic findings.

Link to video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLiZDQxywqE

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  I note that you previously observed this effect in ferrite, Grum -- nice going.

Again, interesting observations, Mike.  Odd if this relates somehow to the TPU.

I wonder if the sound makes the domain boundaries shift in such a way that transient, rapidly changing B fields are produced...


When I mentioned the TPU I was thinking allowed, it was the vibration felt in all the TPU's and the fact we really do not know what was metal-wise inside the TPU, apart from copper wire. The thing is copper is soft and malleable and not in my opinion the transmitter of vibration, it is more an absorber, so the mental thought was, what could be inside to cause this vibration? maybe not a metal as such!!

When a transformer hum's or vibrates, it is not the copper, it is the core lamina's. Here is a link to what goes into making these cores and aligning domains, all very interesting.

http://www.transformercore.com/tech_articles.htm

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