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Author Topic: Tariel kapanadze's Energy Generator  (Read 367770 times)
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Well wasn't all that so amusing but didn't we all guess that any way, well I did. >:-)

they are all talking about closed circuit type energy from the grid, with that system
your wasting 50% of your energy before you start and once you have it there are more losses
in your house wiring, with cassimere effect you don’t pay for the losses they arnt telling you about.                           

so are you going to take this stuff on board or lets all give up on giving up eh!
because it doesn't add up it's like America and the ET thing.

Find it watch it the X_files 10 no 1 it's about right.!

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I already believe that one-wire energy transfer is possible and that you do not realize the logistics of doing it at the 2kW power level.


   And how about at the 5.000 watts level or so, shown in TKs last video, or in Ruslans video in the field?
 I'd like to see the logistics of a thin hidden wire do that, also. But, we have seen what running off of an induction cooker circuit can do using just a one wire output to a load. Yet, that has nothing to do with FE. Nor the only way to fake things in front of people watching out for things like that. Or even, the logistics of Zenneck wave transmissions, from a long distance away transmitter.

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   And how about at the 5.000 watts level or so, shown in TKs last video?
 I'd like to see the logistics a thin hidden wire do that, also. But, we have seen what running off of an induction cooker circuit can do using just a one wire output to a load. Yet, nothing to do with FE.

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no you wont at low frequency but at HF yuo will.
   
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I agree that you have to try. There is nothing wrong with that, but you also need to be able to draw conclusions from your own and other people's work. Assessing the situation is very important.

This is my opinion on the matter Kapanadze and you don't have to agree with it.

You don't have to think, because it's not obligatory when you read a joke, but it makes it difficult to understand; sometimes  :D
   

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here is the proof:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sweXFKSXMxo.
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https://youtu.be/He5xQOJHlrU?t=95
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zenneck_wave
A video is merely an anecdotal evidence, unless you are its author and can answer questions about it so others can replicate it.
You have made videos like that in the past, but this one is not of that kind.

You appear pretty convinced, so I must ask you whether you are holding out on some successful experiment, you had performed, that places that phenomenon beyond the anecdotal ?

Just to be clear, I do not doubt that Zenneck waves and critical Brewster angles are real phenomena, but I need more evidence beyond the anecdotal that they are a source of energy when combined together.
   

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Physics is not based on beliefs.
True, but why are you informing me about this?
Could it be because you saw me write the word "believe" and are having a reaction to it without considering the context in which I have written it ?

FYI: Maxmalone has asked me about "believing" here and I answered him in his terms, so if you want to lecture someone about physics and beliefs - start with him.
   
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True, but why are you informing me about this?
Could it be because you saw me write the word "believe" and are having a reaction to it without considering the context in which I have written it ?

FYI: Maxmalone has asked me about "believing" here and I answered him on his terms, so if you want to lecture someone about physics and beliefs - start with him.

This is not a problem of faith but of facts.
Many reports about Kapanaga are that he took money to show his tricks. These are basic facts. Everything else follows from this.
His greatest success is probably doing this trick. Magicians do the same.
Do you believe that people can fly as David Copperfield showed without any devices, and you can't believe that Kapanadze did tricks.
Let's look for other solutions. This will be better.
   

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...and you can't believe that Kapanadze did tricks.
I could believe if I saw direct evidence of this particular trick at these power levels.
I am not a TK devout fan, nor do I find his grenade devices demos particularly convincing (too many hidey holes & not enough measurements).  Only his electromechanical devices are intriguing to me.
   
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I could believe if I saw direct evidence of this particular trick at these power levels.
I am not a TK devout fan, nor do I find his grenade devices demos particularly convincing (too many hidey holes & not enough measurements).  Only his electromechanical devices are intriguing to me.

Each Kapanadze electromechanical or hydraulic device is grounded. This gives another reason that something is wrong here.
Why is there grounding in a hydraulic device?
Of course, it's easy to say it's for protection and the matter is settled. No one will ask about it again.
   

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A company (scammers?) selling perpetual motion machines has appeared in Georgia.
https://magmovenergy.com/
They are as Slobodyan's generator looks likes. :)
   

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Each Kapanadze electromechanical or hydraulic device is grounded.
No
   
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which device is not grounded? and if you don't see it, it doesn't mean it isn't there.
   
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   And how about at the 5.000 watts level or so, shown in TKs last video, or in Ruslans video in the field?
 I'd like to see the logistics of a thin hidden wire do that, also. But, we have seen what running off of an induction cooker circuit can do using just a one wire output to a load. Yet, that has nothing to do with FE. Nor the only way to fake things in front of people watching out for things like that. Or even, the logistics of Zenneck wave transmissions, from a long distance away transmitter.

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Perhaps he has or had a TX device in the cow shed TX'ing loads of watts from his Tesla tower ?
Joel Lagace
See what this guy says about the problems with how it would work in his vids  'Joel Lagace ' https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTRRfV5LtvSsOBIBa3ccuww

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Two videos from  Dr  Corum in  168th anniversary  of Tesla's birth.
It actually says that  Zenneck wave  was used by Tesla.
Tesla Presentation part 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tD-8AKBe3B8

Tesla Presentation part 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCjXLgtmPHs&t=0s
That actually conforms my finding too.

Some people got upset  when I was reluctant to show working device causing  discussion that
led to me holding it since.

There is another Video   having critical view at Tesla work however author
didn't go to specifics of physical properties of Zenneck wave as form of Surface Wave.
I assume he  decided not to go to this area of physics "on purpose."
He also did' not explain A to B signal and/or energy transfer but he admitted that Zenneck Wave exists
Here is a link:
Did Tesla use Zenneck waves, a response to James Corum
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpU9jvfdkgc
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It's a bit strange that Corum makes films because how does it relate to his VISIV tower  :o It doesn't work?
   
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"Nikola Tesla was a brilliant inventor and electrical engineer who made many important contributions to the field of electrical engineering. However [...]
This paper discusses two of Tesla's controversial theories: his belief in the possibility of transmitting electricity wirelessly over long distances, and his suggestion that it was possible to tap into the Earth's electromagnetic field as an energy source
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https://www.academia.edu/94239997/The_Controversial_Theories_of_Nikola_Tesla


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    It's a bit strange that Corum makes films because how does it relate to his VISIV tower  :o It doesn't work?

That doesn't make and difference.
 The reason why  Viziv tower doesn't  work or looks like  it doesn't work is  not know to you and you can only make assumptions in this area.
It was business decision and what caused that decision  is not in your field of expertise.
Apart of that it is my own work where I'm confirming not only A to B energy transfer of Corum but  energy extraction from Schuman waveguide.
You  may  as well have doubts  to my statement as you have no access not to Corum  work and  not to my work and achievement.
You  may only  express your disappointment based on  available to you  data, experience and knowledge.
With all respect to you it is up to  inventor, professional, experimenter in given field to  share  their knowledge with you or not making you  more or less convinced or not convinced at all.
The reasoning behind their decision is  unfortunately  their own state of mind as to - share it, or share it later,  or not at all.
I indicated  that  I think about  presenting  working device this year.  I still think about it.
It is discouraging to the inventor or experimenter  see  some audience behavior acting in certain way .
I fully understand Tariel Kapanadze whom I visited  having the same doubts although he was "for money"  and I'm not.
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Do you know what the difference is between Kapanadze, Corum and Tesla? I'll tell you. Tesla wanted to give people electricity, which he was fascinated by until the end of his days. People like GP Morgan came and only wanted to do business on it. I understand that it gave money to Tesla's work, but they wanted more and more. They were terrified by Tesla's faith, who announced that electricity would be for everyone and everywhere. How is that?! Now they will be left with cables and power plants and no one will pay them anything anymore!? It is impossible and unacceptable. That is why the faith was destroyed. Is there another reason?

Corum and Tariel work on Tesla's achievements, but they think that it is their property because they managed to recreate what Tesla did. I understand that even doing this is some kind of achievement, especially since you devote most of your life and would like to get money for it.
It has been said many times before that if you think that you will make big money on it, you are wrong. Once there was only GP Morgan and now there are thousands like him. They are called energy companies that have an agreement to maintain this as long as possible.

Recently there was a great emphasis on the production of electric cars because oil is running out and has to cost so much. That's how it was explained to us. What's happening now? Oil has fallen to the price from before C19 and suddenly Germany can still produce combustion cars. At the same time, the import of electric cars from China is being suspended. These are the reasons why people should break the system by making important discoveries public. Unfortunately, everyone thinks they will make a patent that protects it and then sell it. Hahahaha
   
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Tesla has no “free energy” patent, and his idea of transmitting electricity at a long distance failed and was doomed to failure. Tesla was a brilliant inventor with an engineering background, but not a physicist, not a theorist, the laws of physics were not as he imagined them.
Today, claiming that we know Tesla's secrets attracts the attention of the incompetent. The free energy scammers and the nobodies in need of recognition who claim to be so hope to pass themselves off as masters to them.


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Does anyone know of a Russian-language film on YouTube where a guy says that after one of his experiments, copper wires became magnetic? I would appreciate a link to that film.
   

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Buy me some coffee
According toTariel, he (Tariel) figured Tesla out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hofuRiMdrDE

So here we have nearly 24 minutes of agony because no one will admit to figuring Kapa out.
Transcript below.

0:03
If we had like 150 meters of wire...
0:06
There's a transformer booth there. We'd take this and...
0:08
... use the earth-ground from there.
0:11
Now we wrap it around here
0:20
Temo!
0:21
Come over here, please
0:24
Ok, let's go...
0:27
We need pliers
0:28
Temo, please bring the pliers
0:30
wait, he's bring it now
0:32
Now let's check that there's nothing in there...
0:36
It's less than 4 Ohms, a very good earth ground
0:38
This is good earth ground because a metal pipe runs for many kilometers, there's water there.
0:45
It's a big mass for grounding and there's no more ground in here.
0:47
Otherwise, we need to ground to the Neutral.
0:48
The greater the mass, the better the ground.
0:52
Turn on the water.
0:55
It's a regular faucet.
1:00
Pour the water from above to make sure it has a good contact.
1:05
No, not there. On top of the wire. Bring the live wire tester.
1:14
It shows that there's nothing here.
1:21
Later we'll see that the same live wire tester would light up in the presence of voltage.
1:30
That's it.
1:32
Let's go
1:33
This same wire goes here...
1:35
We'll lift that cable eventually
1:42
I wanted to do this...
1:44
Take it and fix here , to make sure it's at the top.
1:48
But it's still visible anyway, so...
1:58
Just a min, Vazha is also coming in.
1:59
Tariel?
2:02
Izo and Vazha are coming in and let's wait for them so that they can see it as well. They're at the front door.
2:11
Come in, please. Dear Vazha...
2:18
Tariel, please show what you have replaced here, due to water getting into it.
2:23
This module has been replaced entirely. We replaced it here.
2:30
Посмотри, пожалуйста.
2:32
We pulled this out and started it directly without a socket.
2:35
We inserted a straight wire.
2:38
The socket was for show, like, look, it goes in here.
2:41
Here the ground is connected to the device.
2:44
And now we...
2:46
We'll turn it on afterwards, of course... Temo, come over here, let's do this together. Bring the tape as well.
2:54
Hopefully, this won't cause any problems.
3:02
He's asking for a rough explanation of the device's inner workings
3:10
Ok for this we needed...
3:12
We had an electronic interrupter.
3:16
That circuit burnt out.
3:18
Now we put a regular spark gap.
3:20
It's down there,
3:22
Two contacts
3:23
That's a spark gap,
3:24
it will fire.
3:27
It has a noise.
3:29
Tariel, let's explain in simple terms...
3:32
Ok I'll explain this.
3:37
The primary.
3:38
The primary coil.
3:44
The secondary coil.
3:47
The most important thing now is that when the current enters the primary coil,
3:53
an electromagnetic field is created there.
3:54
The electromagnetic field then acts on the secondary coil.
3:57
Is that small thing where the power enters?
3:59
Comes from this, yes.
4:01
We excite the device using that power.
4:04
As a starter...
4:05
Of course we can do it this way.
4:08
Or we can take this off and connect it directly
4:10
We'll do it either way.
4:13
So the secondary coil...
4:17
a crucial element, essentially. In fact, it's there in Tesla's device as well.
4:22
It's an independent coil...
4:23
But we have simply positioned it in such a way that
4:29
the electromagnetic field of the primary coil acts on it where it is needed.
4:32
So that the vector of the field didn't...
4:35
Yeah...
4:37
And from here the current comes out
4:40
I think it's clear that it first goes through the necessary circuitry
4:45
and it comes out amplified
4:47
But we have our own secrets there, so to speak...
4:51
This is essentially a classic Tesla design.
4:59
But no one could get it to work, because...
5:05
Tesla had a theoretical diagram, right?
5:06
He also had a practical one, which he destroyed.
5:12
Now we come here...
5:14
Well, this circuit does its job, it's attached to the third coil, as we can see.
5:20
Here it already outputs as much current as we need.
5:26
In short, this is what makes it all work.
5:31
We wouldn't see any effect without this, this is where the main action is done.
5:34
and we get 220 volts out of this, correct?
5:36
yes, 220 volts, 50 Hz.
5:39
But we can make 380 volts and 50 hertz, that is, we can also make three-phase current.
5:45
It can be 50 hertz, 60, 80, 100...
5:51
If 220 volts come out here, what does the rest of this do?
5:58
This whole circuit serves this coil.
6:01
There's a heat sink here too.
6:03
Let's do it without that so that there's less wire involved...
6:06
What is this large black thing? That's a heat sink for those two transistors, to cool them down.
6:12
Yes, there's one more beneath it.
6:14
It's pure duralumin, nothing else.
6:20
Do we use 9 volts to start it up?
6:23
Only to start it, yes.
6:26
Then we take it out, right?
6:27
Yes, we take it out, we'll see it now.
6:28
Then how does it stop?
6:31
You plug it again and it stops.
6:49
Here you can calculate. It's 200 watts each.
6:53
It's 3 killowatts...
6:54
Here we have 3 kilowatts and there... are those 1 kWt bulbs? Those are actually two 750 watt bulbs, so...
7:00
4,5 killowatts in total.
7:01
We cannot increase the load any further.
7:06
It should be quiet, but you'll hear a noise here.
7:10
Because we were in a hurry, and I have to leave, we made it a bit differently this time.
7:17
It has a slight sound, but it's usually silent with no noise.
7:21
And what we saw the day before yesterday was designed for 8 kilowatts,
7:25
while today's is for 5 kilowatts.
7:27
But the idea and the system are the same.
7:30
It's a bit loose, be careful with that one.
7:37
We can plug it in using this thing or skip that and plug it directly.
7:59
Nika, can you hold this, please?
8:02
Don't worry dear Vazha, it only has a noise and that's all.
8:07
We need to make sure the cameraman is able to work properly here.
8:09
Tariel, hold on for a sec. Should we take the chairs and carry them out of here?
8:13
That's why I say we should go outside.
8:26
We need this temporarily...
8:29
Just to start it.
8:41
This spark gap - we replaced it.
8:44
We replaced the spark gap. Our electronic one failed.
8:47
Should I turn this on?
8:50
Yes, please do.
8:59
This noise wouldn't be here if we had that electronic one..
9:03
the interrupter.. The load had to be redesigned as well because it was designed for the original module.
9:15
Where's the live wire tester?
9:29
This is spark gap.
9:30
It's there in Tesla diagram as well.
9:32
A spark gap is permissible at this scale.
9:37
But at larger scales it becomes a problem.
9:39
God forbid, it has a bad effect.
9:41
It emits hard ultraviolet and soft X-rays.
9:46
That will have an effect on health.
9:48
But when we use the electronic one, there's no effect on anything.
9:51
Because the first thing they'll check is the electromagnetic field density.
9:57
And they might check for radiation too.
10:00
Because that's the first thing they need to check.
10:03
Excuse me.
10:04
Tariel, let's turn it off and on again.
10:08
I think if I connect it the other way around now, it should turn off, in theory.
10:20
Ok, seems it does not...
10:24
Ok, now we turned it on and nothing happens.
10:27
So you turned it off?
10:29
Yes, I turned it off.
10:34
The system is entirely off. And now we can do this...
10:51
Ok now we can do the following...
10:56
We can turn those light bulbs off
10:59
And we'll have power here constantly.
11:01
What power?
11:02
220 volts and it doesn't consume anything. Nothing is damaged etc.
11:07
Tariel, please don't shut it off. Keep it on for a second.
11:09
Show that he's touching it with his bare hands while the device is running.
11:26
So you're staying calm, everything's fine...
11:33
It's possible to do it on a vehicle too, but there's one small catch - where to find a neutral/ground?
11:41
The question arises: where did he get the neutral?
11:43
He took the engine out of the car, put in an electric motor and the box like this, a bit wider.
11:51
He placed it under the seat, and the car started working.
11:56
Reached a speed of 150 kilometers per hour
11:58
Yeah and back then 150 km was a lot
12:04
The only thing is, if the circuit, let's say a low-quality component or something,
12:10
and it burns out, you just replace it, and it will work again.
12:19
It's better to hold it in your hands...
12:23
Let me do that.
12:26
It's not a problem, it has a buzzing sound and nothing else. It's fully isolated otherwise.
12:32
Please shoot it from below, please.
12:36
(Tariel telling someone his location)
12:51
There is no radiation at all?
12:54
Correct, there's no radiation.
13:03
What's interesting is when you move the whole thing around, those seem to move together as well.
13:12
Tariel, can these move slightly back and forth?
13:15
Be careful to not short those two... If those touch each other, it's over.
13:23
Insulate those...
13:25
We can do that.
13:26
Not needed for now...
13:31
The air cooler doesn't seem to work now.
13:33
No, it won't work now. It gets turned on automatically when it heats up.
13:37
When it warms up a bit, right?
13:38
No, no. Nothing happens before the normal temperature
13:41
When it gets higher than that, then it will work.
13:44
Is 5 kWt a normal load for this?
13:47
The device was built for 10 kWt.
13:53
After the module burnt out, we got scared, as we can't get those components. We need few chips.
14:00
It's designed for 10 kW.
14:03
But we had chips installed here.
14:06
We have model numbers but we can't get them.
14:11
That chip gets installed in that module and then it controls the frequency.
14:41
We can take this off and hook up a TV instead, right?
14:48
Yes, whatever you want up to 5 kWt. 0:14:55.980,1193:02:47.295 It has already be done based on this 9v battery. I wrote a letter to the state commission. We did 200 kWt. They documented it.
15:12
They mentioned that it is revolutionary.
15:15
But then for some unknown reasons, things didn't progress any further...
15:33
How long will the device work?
15:34
It's not limited in that sense. The heat issue is a separate one.
15:38
We turned it on... If no component burns out...
15:45
That's why I say... We didn't test it for...
15:53
No, that's not hot, that's warm, it's normal,
15:56
because lots of current flows into the earth ground.
16:00
But why can we touch it over there?
16:03
Because it's neutral there, not live.
16:05
You should not touch it here.
16:08
We use this (live wire tester) to check for neutral. One of them is Live, the other is Neutral.
16:16
But if it's Neutral, why is it slightly warm?
16:21
It's warm because it's conducting so much current right now.
16:28
This one doesn't heat up.
16:30
Neutral also heats up. When it's a small diameter wire, it heats up.
16:33
Yeah, it's thinner.
16:35
See here, this doesn't heat up.
16:38
It's due to differences in the diameters of the wire.
16:43
Oh ok.
16:45
Neutral needs to be made much thicker anyway.
16:53
If no component burns out it will work for a long time...
16:58
It will last forever?
16:59
Not forever. There's no such component that can work forever.
17:06
Like a computer right?
17:08
Tariel, the second device can be made as a replacement.
17:11
What I'm saying is we didn't perform any longevity tests.
17:19
We don't know how long it will work...
17:22
That's why I offered to build two of these units.
17:28
If one of them fails, it automatically switches to the other. You will still get your electricity
17:34
and in the meantime we'll try to figure out what went wrong.
17:44
So far it works correctly...
18:06
When you turn it off, how do you perform it exactly?
18:12
We turn off the system. Since I initially power it using this battery, giving it a starting pulse...
18:19
Then it turns on and feeds itself and then I can cut the power off there.
18:24
The impulse stops, but it stops in a different place, not there.
18:28
When we get the power, it feeds itself and gives you whatever you need.
18:33
And here we switch it off and
18:35
everything will shut down,
18:37
because where the output current is fed back into the primary, this is where we cut it off.
18:48
Tariel, let's show Merab how the device gets started.
18:51
Sure.
19:11
What would happen if we took the grounding off while it's running?
19:17
I took it off once on a running device, do you guys remember it? And a small electromagnet got burnt out, nothing else.
19:33
Вот смотри сейчас.
19:34
Now check this out. I'm turning this off and it doesn't add brightness to the bulbs over there.
19:39
It stays at the same brightness, giving stable 220 volts.
19:44
We can also turn everything off and then turn them back on one at a time.
19:51
Still, nothing would change.
19:53
It normally shouldn't be the case. As the load increases, the 220 volts should drop to around 180.
19:56
I want to tell you on thing now...
19:58
Power station...
19:59
If they take the load off the way we are doing it here,
20:01
there will be an accident.
20:04
Taking the load off abruptly will cause a failure on the power station. And they spend lots of money building that thing.
20:11
Here, you can light up one bulb or all of them, based on what the device can withstand.
20:19
Let's say, 10 kWt, 1 kWt, 0.5 Ktw.. 200, 100 or 60 watts, it will keep working...
20:30
You can take 10 kWt max from it, or 100 watts, whatever you need.
20:34
It's already too hot...
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And here we have 200 times 6...
20:41
Here we have 3 kWt. So it's 4.5 kWt in total.
20:49
It doesn't actually matter what it gives here, even if it was 100 watts...
20:53
Because it means that the core principle works.
20:57
Now we need to test its longevity.
21:00
Find the weakest parts of it and improve them.
21:05
And then you have the right to give a guarantee when you sell it.
21:10
For that we'd need to install it somewhere as an experiment.
21:17
Now we want to make a 150 kWt version.
21:20
Would everything be bigger in that 150 kWt version? Or only the core module itself?
21:25
All of this would be bigger.
21:27
These would be bigger and the circuits and components will need to be more heavy-duty of course.
21:32
For example, the heat sink here will be much larger because the transistors will be bigger.
21:37
Yeah, will be larger. Everything will be bigger, and the conductivity will be much higher. Every single component.
21:42
It's like in life. If you eat with a big spoon, you need a big throat. If you eat small bites...
21:48
Не работает.
21:49
Camera should get closer and film everything, the spark gap etc.
21:53
It was already done.
21:56
With an electronic contactor, there will be no spark and noise.
22:06
and even now, there is no noise anymore.
22:09
It has already reached its design capacity.
22:12
There is no noise now.
22:13
There is still some noise, but you can only hear it from a close distance.
22:19
Yes, but I thought the noise was coming from here.
22:21
Yes, it's the fan that's making the noise here.
22:24
Because the load here is so high that...
22:31
It regulates, it regulates...
22:32
It burned out!
22:34
No, no, it didn't.
22:35
There's smoke coming from below, look.
22:40
We'll take a look now, let it rest for a bit
22:43
Did it overheat?
22:46
No, no...
22:47
Leave it as is. There's a smell of smoke. We've already explained and demonstrated everything anyway.
22:56
I will check this...
23:04
The system and the basic principle is clear.
23:07
The fan stopped working as well.
23:11
The fan shouldn't be working until it reaches the threshold temperature.
23:18
Yeah, it has its own thermal switch there...
23:28
Core principle is what matters. All of this is homemade. But idea itself is what's important.
23:40
So that's the working principle. Ok, that's enough


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Electrostatic induction: Put a 1KW charge on 1 plate of a  capacitor. What does the environment do to the 2nd  plate?
   
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Thanks for sharing that transcript. I had watched the same video earlier.

The most important parts in my opinion are:

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When we get the power, it feeds itself and gives you whatever you need.
...because where the output current is fed back into the primary, this is where we cut it off.

   
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15:53
No, that's not hot, that's warm, it's normal,
15:56
because lots of current flows into the earth ground.
   
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