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Magluvin	Re: What to do about INTIMIDATION? « Reply #100 on: 2013-12-09, 05:44:08 »
Group: Guest	Hey Steve Nice work. You might want to replace the second rotor with a pickup coil and also have another pickup coil to keep track of the drive rotor also. Place the pickups so a scope sees them in phase. Then as you introduce the mumetal, you can see how much reduction you get with the sheet in the way. Also, with the other pickup, using a scope to watch the pickups, I wonder if there is any phase difference happening with the mu between. Just a thought. The metal might be so thin that it only shields some field. Like sunglasses. I wonder how mumetal would act as a core material. I havnt used shielding. Once I was able to 'see' in my mind how fields exit and surround a magnet, using shields seem to be more of a field limiter rather than a directional guide. Also like Perendev, he uses tube shielding around the sides of cylinder magnets. This will usually suck a lot of the fields that was normally flowering out of the mags pole, and draw it toward the shield tube and give the fields a path to the opposite pole facing inward on the rotor. So most of the field is being wasted there. I had seen some shielding in the past that was kind of interesting, But I have not come up with a good solid use of any yet. We cant look at the poles of a magnet as beaming from the poles. Its more like a layered bubble, with field spanning out in all direction from the poles. Now 1 style of magnet seems to have somewhat of a beaning effect, The sphere magnet. They seem to reach out further from the face of the poles than others. Not sure why. Mags Mags

Chet K	Re: What to do about INTIMIDATION? « Reply #101 on: 2013-12-09, 14:41:27 »
Group: Ambassador Hero Member Posts: 4045	I know this Man has been discussed a little bit here , however this "magnetic mirror" ?? whats that? http://blog.hasslberger.com/2013/11/german_inventor_solves_permane-print.html it also says he wants to share this discovery . Stefan [OU.com] Has been in touch with his Son I wonder how the sharing is going? A phone contact would be nice? thx Chet

PhysicsProf	Re: What to do about INTIMIDATION? « Reply #102 on: 2013-12-09, 15:34:09 »
Group: Professor Hero Member Posts: 3017	Yes, interesting claims, Chet -- and Stefan is trying to reach the man's son by phone. I'm interested in this one, too -- magnetic-motor claim.

Grumpy	Re: What to do about INTIMIDATION? « Reply #103 on: 2013-12-09, 16:33:18 »
Group: Tinkerer Hero Member Posts: 3948 tExB=qr	Quote from: ramset on 2013-12-09, 14:41:27 I know this Man has been discussed a little bit here , however this "magnetic mirror" ?? whats that? http://blog.hasslberger.com/2013/11/german_inventor_solves_permane-print.html it also says he wants to share this discovery . Stefan [OU.com] Has been in touch with his Son I wonder how the sharing is going? A phone contact would be nice? thx Chet Very interesting invention. Check this out, from the page you linked: The inventor's reaction to the question whether his motor is a perpetual motion machine is somewhat resentful: "That is rubbish", he says. "There is no such thing". Mr. Engel is convinced that his machine uses the enormous energy which is inherent in quanta, those inconceivably small components of atoms which were first described by the physicist Max Planck in the early part of the last century. He therefore calls his machine an "quantum deviation apparatus". Somethings are still unclear, also for the inventor himself. Somewhere in Germany, a businessman has a second such motor at his company, which runs with 1200 RPM. The man called some days ago he says, and recounted that, when the motor was covered with an acrylic hood, its rotational speed diminished. Engel does not know the reason for this. Any ideas on why this happens? EDIT: The concept is similar to the one used by James that I mentioned earlier, except that he turns fixed magnets on-off with a shield rather than rotating them.

Chet K	Re: What to do about INTIMIDATION? « Reply #104 on: 2013-12-13, 13:46:34 »
Group: Ambassador Hero Member Posts: 4045	here is one way to deal with intimidation http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvcrqODpDY4 run a national Television Commercial spot! for sale next month! as a side note ,we have a very trusted member who is from Brazil,I am reaching out to him for a "purchase feasibility" study? [group purchase] Thx Chet

PhysicsProf	Re: What to do about INTIMIDATION? « Reply #105 on: 2013-12-13, 15:35:56 »
Group: Professor Hero Member Posts: 3017	Wow -- they are not bowing to intimidation! bully for them. 12 KW unit for $5,500 -- a bargain! Group buy and testing? count me in, chet.

PhysicsProf	Re: What to do about INTIMIDATION? « Reply #106 on: 2013-12-13, 17:22:04 »
Group: Professor Hero Member Posts: 3017	Brazil is one of the principal BRiCS nations, which have already indicated they are leaving the "petrodollar" scheme. A new energy device MIGHT have a chance in Brazil! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvcrqODpDY4 Of interest (and kinda funny): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_1RSKbhbz4&feature=player_embedded Note the Obama administration may have its hands full for the next little while! A window opens?

NerzhDishual	Re: What to do about INTIMIDATION? « Reply #107 on: 2013-12-13, 22:22:49 »
Group: Guest	Hi Experimenters, What about replicating this Nilson Barbosa's device? I mean: first building a mere 'proof of concept' small ('OU' or very efficient) apparatus. All we are supposed to need, according to WO2013104043A1 (the patent quoted in the vid), are an: 'Electrons from space' trap. This is described(?) in the the patent application WO2013104041A1. "Electromagnetic device for capturing free space electrons to generate electricity". or an 'Electrons from earth' trap. This is described(?) in the the patent application WO2013104042A1. "Electromagnetic device for capturing electrons from the ground to generate electricity". I must confess, that, for me, these 2 patents are clear as mud. I also must confess that I'm not the the king of "OU" but I still have some motivations... ------------------ However a (real?) "OU" guy wrote this, in the OU dot com Forum: ------------------- For the 'Electrons from earth' trap, a first idea might be (picture also from Ou dot com): For electrons from space' trap you can consult "The Free Electrons Pump ( FEP v1.0)" By Stefan Hartmann and Jean-Louis Naudin. Created on October 28th, 1999. Not so new.... http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/fep01.htm No 'OU' claimed here.... Salutations distinguées, Jean --------------------- PS#1: I once heard about a (famous) person that was ship a very efficient device for testing. The device was OK and functioning at the departure but, curiously, was botched and dismantled at the (very late) arrival. The sender was also OK. Amazing. No? PS#2: TK or not TK that is a question...

Chet K	Re: What to do about INTIMIDATION? « Reply #108 on: 2013-12-16, 20:05:46 »
Group: Ambassador Hero Member Posts: 4045	The intimidation is growing quickly http://www.mes50hz.ru/index_en.php

PhysicsProf	Re: What to do about INTIMIDATION? « Reply #109 on: 2013-12-16, 22:32:57 »
Group: Professor Hero Member Posts: 3017	Quote from: ramset on 2013-12-16, 20:05:46 http://www.mes50hz.ru/index_en.php Fun stuff! does anyone understand Russkie? or is there an English write-up? cost? shipping ?

Chet K	Re: What to do about INTIMIDATION? « Reply #110 on: 2013-12-16, 23:27:16 »
Group: Ambassador Hero Member Posts: 4045	There is an "english" button in the link. I think we will hear more about this one [seems the salesman showed up at OU.com in the Kapanadeze threads ] ] thx Chet

Centraflow	Re: What to do about INTIMIDATION? « Reply #111 on: 2013-12-17, 15:40:34 »
Group: Experimentalist Hero Member Posts: 2982	Well it is electro mechanical, needs a battery to start it and after disconnect the battery, weighs quite a bit @ 80kg "heavier than me", does the noise tell us anything apart from there is a motor? it is 50hz so is there an inverter from 12v to 230v 50hz? or is there a generator!!! but the revolution noise is too slow for a generator head to create 230v @50hz. The case is only 2/3rd full so at that weight of 80kg there must be a lot of metal inside the rest of the box. Can anyone else add to this? seems very interesting and quite elaborate for a hoax! my 2 cents worth Mike --------------------------- "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident." Arthur Schopenhauer, Philosopher, 1788-1860 As a general rule, the most successful person in life is the person that has the best information.

Grumage	Re: What to do about INTIMIDATION? « Reply #112 on: 2013-12-17, 18:50:49 »
Group: Renaissance Man Hero Member Posts: 2765	Dear Mike. For me, I would say they have cracked the Chas Campbell system !! In the second 14 m video you can clearly see the end of an electric motor or alternator ( painted blue ) and there does sound to be a flywheel taking a bit of time to slow down. My two penneth !! Cheers Graham. --------------------------- Nanny state ? Left at the gate !!

Centraflow	Re: What to do about INTIMIDATION? « Reply #113 on: 2013-12-17, 18:58:46 »
Group: Experimentalist Hero Member Posts: 2982	Quote from: Grumage on 2013-12-17, 18:50:49 Dear Mike. For me, I would say they have cracked the Chas Campbell system !! In the second 14 m video you can clearly see the end of an electric motor or alternator ( painted blue ) and there does sound to be a flywheel taking a bit of time to slow down. My two penneth !! Cheers Graham. Hi Graham That would account for the extreme weight, but they would have to be of a small diameter to fit in the box Mike ! --------------------------- "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed, second it is violently opposed, and third, it is accepted as self-evident." Arthur Schopenhauer, Philosopher, 1788-1860 As a general rule, the most successful person in life is the person that has the best information.

Grumpy	Re: What to do about INTIMIDATION? « Reply #114 on: 2013-12-17, 23:22:31 »
Group: Tinkerer Hero Member Posts: 3948 tExB=qr	Is there any proof of "who" is actually intimidating alternative energy researchers? There are assumptions that either Big Oil of Government Agencies are involved and motives exists for both, but is there any real evidence? How do you protect yourself from an enemy that is much more advanced than you are? Would you hide your technology so they don't know when you have made advancements? Who could you trust with your advanced technology?

muDped	Re: What to do about INTIMIDATION? « Reply #115 on: 2013-12-18, 02:46:58 »
Group: Tinkerer Hero Member Posts: 3055	Quote from: Grumpy [1]How do you protect yourself from an enemy that is much more advanced than you are? [2] Would you hide your technology so they don't know when you have made advancements? [3]Who could you trust with your advanced technology? 1. Avoid making yourself a target. 2. Definitely yes. 3. Absolutely nobody. --------------------------- For there is nothing hidden that will not be disclosed, and nothing concealed that will not be known or brought out into the open.

Chet K	Re: What to do about INTIMIDATION? « Reply #116 on: 2013-12-18, 13:09:52 »
Group: Ambassador Hero Member Posts: 4045	Sure thing Dumped .... we would not want to disrupt the Status Quo. ................................... None of us is free till everyone of us is free.. yes I know that will probably be a long road ,and most likely the path less traveled, However it brings to mind a little "diddy" I learned during a very trying time in my life. ""Grant me the serenity to except the things I cannot change,the Courage to change the things I can ,and the wisdom to know the difference."" Somethings are just worth doing if we want this world to change we need to be that change.............. respectfully Chet

ion	Re: What to do about INTIMIDATION? « Reply #117 on: 2013-12-18, 15:49:22 »
Group: Elite Hero Member Posts: 3537 It's turtles all the way down	Nothing can stop an idea whose time has come. - Victor Hugo "Ideas are more powerful than bullets" and "the pen is mightier than the sword". When it's time does come, things will slide in all directions. They fear this. --------------------------- "Secrecy, secret societies and secret groups have always been repugnant to a free and open society"......John F Kennedy

Grumpy	Re: What to do about INTIMIDATION? « Reply #118 on: 2013-12-18, 17:54:50 »
Group: Tinkerer Hero Member Posts: 3948 tExB=qr	Quote from: ION on 2013-12-18, 15:49:22 Nothing can stop an idea whose time has come. - Victor Hugo "Ideas are more powerful than bullets" and "the pen is mightier than the sword". When it's time does come, things will slide in all directions. They fear this. Who is "they", really? Is it our governments or are we supposed to blame them as part of something much larger? I find it hard to believe that large corporations, or our divided word governments could orchestrate such a complete global suppression. Who is the puppet master? Did our government cut some deal to sell us out and keep us primitive without our consent? Or are they afraid of something and wanting us to appear primitive while our technology catches up? What happened when we orbited the moon? Were we really warned to stay away?

BEP	Re: What to do about INTIMIDATION? « Reply #119 on: 2013-12-18, 22:28:46 »
Group: Guest	My opinion is this: If the governments have something along these lines they would hold it close so as to be one-up on all other countries and to prevent a worldwide economic collapse. If so, THEY should be figuring out how to make money from it and make it useful to all. Until they do, any free energy device is a definite threat to national and worldwide security. I don't buy into the thought that corporations are suppressing anything unless they are doing the same as governments except just long enough to figure out how to make a buck from it. One would think something fantastic would have hit the marketplace by now. I doubt the governments have free energy devices. If they do, they don't know it. Sure, they have all kinds of wonders. At least they did back in the 70's & 80's but none were free energy, AFAIK. Maybe there is a Warehouse 13 somewhere Brazil was mentioned somewhere as avoiding the petrodollar. They can do that only because they are raping the land to grow cane in order to produce alcohol for fueling vehicles. At least it is renewable. The final result will probably be a lower oxygen content for all to breathe. I'm ranting again. Sorry.

muDped	Re: What to do about INTIMIDATION? « Reply #120 on: 2013-12-19, 03:57:13 »
Group: Tinkerer Hero Member Posts: 3055	Quote from: Chet None of us is free till everyone of us is free.. yes I know that will probably be a long road ,and most likely the path less traveled, However it brings to mind a little "diddy" I learned during a very trying time in my life. ""Grant me the serenity to except the things I cannot change,the Courage to change the things I can ,and the wisdom to know the difference."" Somethings are just worth doing if we want this world to change we need to be that change.............. respectfully Chet The "change" that nearly all of us are wanting to see is in the works - but it will not be brought about by any of us. The "Status Quo" is micro-managed by a small group of people, perhaps not more than 500 total, who have amassed great wealth and power over nearly all of planet earth. The few holdouts who have resisted the AGENDA which leads to the New Order of Control over the whole planet are presently in the gunsights for elimination: namely Iran. The People who've been massively deceived for several decades have lost any power they may have had in the past and are incapable of bringing about any change in course. The People are not even capable of assuring that elections are honest and fair as evidenced by the most recent presidential elections in the U.S. since 2000. We shall within the span of probably not more than a decade future see who has been responsible for all of the amazing technology we now enjoy and who are also responsible for what we would call "overunity" or "free energy." It exists, to be sure, but none who pursue it in the various forums have really a clue. The very few who've been permitted to see it manifest still have no idea from whence it originates. What is soon to come will boggle the mind... --------------------------- For there is nothing hidden that will not be disclosed, and nothing concealed that will not be known or brought out into the open.

ion	Re: What to do about INTIMIDATION? « Reply #121 on: 2013-12-19, 16:15:13 »
Group: Elite Hero Member Posts: 3537 It's turtles all the way down	Quotes from Dumped: Quote The People are not even capable of assuring that elections are honest and fair as evidenced by the most recent presidential elections in the U.S. since 2000. It's not who casts the votes , it's who counts them. (central tabulation) Quote We shall within the span of probably not more than a decade future see who has been responsible for all of the amazing technology we now enjoy and who are also responsible for what we would call "overunity" or "free energy." If you know, can you give me a hint or just tell me? (by PM is ok if you don't want it public) Quote It exists, to be sure, but none who pursue it in the various forums have really a clue. I would heartily agree with this. How about another clue? Quote The very few who've been permitted to see it manifest still have no idea from whence it originates. Who are the "very few", and do you know from where it originates? Quote What is soon to come will boggle the mind... Good, I need my mind boggled. Now what do you know about this that your willing to share, or is it an intuitive feeling, which is ok too. Your posts are great, I love them, but they leave me with questions. Help me here. --------------------------- "Secrecy, secret societies and secret groups have always been repugnant to a free and open society"......John F Kennedy

PhysicsProf	Re: What to do about INTIMIDATION? « Reply #122 on: 2013-12-19, 19:21:10 »
Group: Professor Hero Member Posts: 3017	Quote from: EMdevices on 2013-12-19, 18:38:46 Aloha FE pals ! Im in paradise rejuvenating! EM Aloha, LOL. Have a refreshing time!

PhysicsProf	Re: What to do about INTIMIDATION? « Reply #123 on: 2013-12-21, 08:34:49 »
Group: Professor Hero Member Posts: 3017	fwiw:: Quote Quote: Ben Rich Lockheed Skunk Works CEO had admitted in his Deathbed Confession that Extraterrestrial UFO visitors are real and the U.S. Military [can] travel among stars. According to article published in May 2010 issue of the Mufon UFO Journal …- Ben Rich, the “Father of the Stealth Fighter-Bomber” and former head of Lockheed Skunk Works,had once let out information about Extraterrestrial UFO Visitors Are Real And U.S. Military Travel To Stars What he said might be new to many people today, but he revealed the information before his death in January 1995. His statements helped to give credence to reports that the U.S. military has been flying vehicles that mimic alien craft. The article was written by Tom Keller, an aerospace engineer who has worked as a computer systems analyst for NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory. 1 : “Inside the Skunk Works (Lockheed’s secret research and development entity), we were a small, intensely cohesive group consisting of about fifty veteran engineers and designers and a hundred or so expert machinists and shop workers. Our forte was building technologically advanced airplanes of small number and of high class for highly secret missions.” 2 : “We already have the means to travel among the stars, but these technologies are locked up in black projects, and it would take an act of God to ever get them out to benefit humanity. Anything you can imagine, we already know how to do.” 3 : “We now have the technology to take ET home. No, it won’t take someone’s lifetime to do it. There is an error in the equations. We know what it is. We now have the capability to travel to the stars. First, you have to understand that we will not get to the stars using chemical propulsion. Second, we have to devise a new propulsion technology. What we have to do is find out where Einstein went wrong.”... [John] Andrews was a close personal friend of “Skunk Works” CEO Ben Rich — the hand-picked successor of Skunk Works founder Kelly Johnson and the man famous for the F-117 Nighthawk “Stealth” fighter, its “half-pint” prototype the “HAVE BLUE”, and the top-secret F-19 Stealth Interceptor. Before Rich died of cancer, Andrews took my questions to him. Dr. Ben R. Rich former Lockheed Skunk Works CEO confirmed: 1. There are 2 types of UFOs — the ones we build and ones ‘they’ build. We learned from both crash retrievals and actual “hand-me-downs.” The Government knew and until 1969 took an active hand in the administration of that information. After a 1969 Nixon “purge”, administration was handled by an international board of directors in the private sector… 2. Nearly all “biomorphic” aerospace designs were inspired by the Roswell spacecraft — from Kelly’s SR-71 Blackbird onward to today’s drones, UCAVs, and aerospace craft… 3. It was Ben Rich’s opinion that the public should not be told [about UFOs and extraterrestrials] . He believed they could not handle the truth — ever. Only in the last months of his decline did he begin to feel that the “international corporate board of directors” dealing with the “Subject” could represent a bigger problem to citizens’ personal freedoms under the United States Constitution than the presence of off-world visitors themselves.” " these technologies are locked up in black projects, and it would take an act of God to ever get them out to benefit humanity" which is what many of us seek.

NerzhDishual	Re: What to do about INTIMIDATION? « Reply #124 on: 2013-12-21, 18:01:11 »
Group: Guest	Hi Experimenters, This could be Off Topic but is there any precise topic in this thread? Are you aware of this vid, pointed out in the OU dot Com Forum : User: Everybodyseye "B????i energizer free energy #2 " "The discovery of the effect, a look at the bill and some crazy observations." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gd71NazSRsQ The claimed "effect" was diminishing his electricity bill by, apparently, cheating his (analog) meter. It was allegedly discovered out of serendipity. By all appearances, it has been reproduced by MrAnguswangus (with a Smart Meter). "Free Electricity B????i - Everybodyseye Discovery" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRos1beoQp4 If it is true, this sounds crazy. Sounds it not? Meilleures salutations, Jean

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