Rosemary,
I think you are missing the electron flow in an atom when you think of a permanent magnet. It is the electron circling the proton that gives rise to the magnetic field of the atom. It is not very hard to picture the electron or electrons circling the nucleus in a plane (like the solar system) especially in the ferrous metals. Which would produce a bipolar magnetic field, line all these little electromagnets up and you have a permanent magnet. So the moving electron comes first I would say. Electric field then magnetic field I don't see how it could be otherwise. 
Room. Think of this. Take your average hydrogen atom and then make the proton at it's heart the size of an apple. Then circling that heart at a radius of about 8 kilometers is the electron. And if the proton is as big as your average Granny Smith - then that electron would be roughly the size of a split pea. So. ALL THAT SPACE? What's in there? Or is it just a vacuum - a great big empty black hole? IF it was nothing but space - then there would be nothing to prevent the electron from making a nose dive into the proton. They're oppositely charged and in a vacuum there'd be nothing to hold them apart. But clearly something is. So. Here's my proposal. WHAT IF? What if the electron itself is TRAPPED between two magnetic fields? But before you get there you'll have to propose that the magnetic fields are already there and that they've got a fundamental material property. The rest is easy. We know that a magnetic field shares our space dimensions else it would not be able to influence anything at all. And it does. And in our dimensions of space we've got length, breadth and depth. That means that potentially there are three distinct possible dimensions to the magnetic field. Now. I've already proposed that atoms that are attached by this 'cosmic glue' are one dimensional magnetic fields. A single rope - a single line of only one of Farraday's lines of force. And this turns into a necklace which then orbits. And in orbiting it can neutralise the repellent valence conditions of two like atoms this based on the fact that one half of the orbit will always be opposite to the other. Therefore it has two optional charges. It can orbit as a figure 8 or it can orbit as a zero. And either way it can move into just about at any 'spin' or at any 'justification' as required to attach just about any charge - any valence condition - that could be around the outskirts of any atom at all. So. To continue with that 'what if' thing. What if the hidden material properties of an atom are two dimensional magnetic fields. Length and breadth - and NO DEPTH. Then that shape would be 'like a saucer'. Then. Just perhaps the electron is trapped between these multiple ropes - a kind of 'choker' but with varying sizes in each concentric circle - that it takes the shape a simplified Elizabethan ruff. Interestingly - if you then propose - as I've done - that all particles are structured from the fundamental magnetic particle - transmuted - but extracted from the quantum of magnetic particles in that 'saucer' - then - if the particles in this wide but hidden atomic field - were transmuted into more protons and neutrons and electrons - as each gained in complexity - then the more complex the atom - then. More particles would have been taken from that magnetic field and the atom would then be correspondingly smaller. And this indeed, fits with the fact. The iron atom is way smaller than our gas atoms. Personally I find this a far more logical explanation than the manifestation of any field at all coming out of all that empty space - that 'black hole' around the atom - which is something you all seem to manage very well. And I've said it often. It's evident that you can all imagine a magnetic field resulting from nothing but the arbitrary directional spin of any electrons at all. I need to give it a material property or I can't manage it. I'm just not clever enough. It bends my mind out of shape. LOL. Just one more thing - at the risk of making a long post even longer - as apparently I tend to do. There's this. We depend on identifying a magnetic field by being able to detect a distinct north and south pole. But we could never find any variation in charge in a pure magnetic field - assuming there is such a thing. Because each part of the field would be precisely balanced out by the other half. The only time we could find that charge difference is if there was some kind of separation of those orbits by matter. Something like a permanent magnet. Or something like our earth holding its own magnetic field - some of it outside and some of it inside. Rosemary
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