OK, Rosemary, I think, before I go on, that I will directly respond to this last post, each section at a time, and then go back to my thinking, as I haven't had much time to process all this, nevermind reference any external data. This is all from memory, so accept the possibility that I may give some bad data. So Be It.
First part, as to the "Lines of Force". I'll Quote your statement below so I can read it as I go and all can see what I am referencing. First time for this method, for me.
It appears that the iron filings need that magnetic field to arrange themselves. Of interest is that they become stable having done so. That's hard to conceptualise in line with the proposal that there's a moving magnetic field. One would assume or anticipate some kind of localised variation in the actual movement of anything at all through space. Therefore those filings should change position - now and then. And they don't.
I would agree that the "Field" is needed to arrange the filings, but the reason I see for them being stable is "Simple" to me, as they actually become part of a "Core". (Think of any more permeable substrate) The reason they form "Lines" is because of the "Self repelling" nature once they become "Magnetized?" The actual "Flow" is along the line, and we all know that standard induction operates at a 90 degree angle, or the cutting of these "Field Lines". Going with them causes no induction other than the fact that the alignment id never perfect, etc. I need not get into exacting details, I'm sure, but this is also why NO coil could ever be perfect as the winding will always have a slight angle to it. Also, this leans away from the actual aether being magnetically based as the mag field to mass interaction would easily be noticed, once away from the planets "Background" field. There are possible exceptions to what I am saying, but I hope you see what I am trying to get across.
Now we get into it a little bit. Quantum guys would give their explanation, but I already disagree with that so I put down what you said and give my opinion.
Not sure that neutral particles don't actually respond to the field. They do. Photons are neutral. And they're hardly frustrated in their path through the magnetic field. They appear to entirely ignore it - in fact. Also. When they hold 'neutral' particles in those bubble chambers - they simply do not spin. Just sit there and apparently do nothing. If those particles are indeed charged 'neutral' then it implies that there must also be a neutral potential in the field - else they would not be sustained in a magnetic field. And they are. Or they are in that bubble chamber.
See, this first part confuses me a little, so I must be reading it wrong. If photons exist, and If they are neutral, and If they ignore the magnetic field, then it follows that they are not affected by the field. This would seem to say that neutral particles don't respond to the field..... See my confusion. I am not attempting to say the is a "Neutral" charge, but I would accept one definition of a neutral charge to be an equal of plus and minus, or up and down, etc. (We all understand that reference, right?) As to the suspension in an actual bubble chamber, inside the magnetic bottle type, I assume you are describing, then we are actually into a whole new area. Whatever liquid is in the chamber is right at the "State change" point and usually has already been charged to the matching point for minimal penetration charge differential, just to make for a good test. There is SO much more going on there that I couldn't begin to comment on a individual aspect. Even gravitational forces operate differently here, at this level, so I cannot use this as a reference. Consider this to be my pet peve of not allowing unrelated things to distract me. Simple mind and all that. Having said that, if I can see any "Recognized" "Particle" with no "Recognized Charge" respond to just a magnetic field, then I might change my mind, but that would require NO charge, not a balanced or Neutral one. I think you should be able to see what I am trying to say? Good example would be the photon, if such existed with no charge, and I could deflect it with just a pure magnetic field, THEN we would be talking.
The next part about the math, no quote needed. I think existing math would be fine, but imagine if all simple "Add" and "Subtract" values had to be the real calculus functions to describe the wave interactions. It sure gets heavy, fast, doesn't it. We actually agree on something 100%. (Let the trumpets sound!!! Just kidding. I'm just a little "Juiced" about it.)
Final section, I haven't given it enough thought to accept or deny. For me, the turning point will be to actually conceptualize what form the "Magnetic" field will be in, while in true space, with no mass around to alter it. I'm sure you have seen the "Curl" experiments that prove that the "Field Lines" actually look like "Springs" when viewed in 3D. This rotational effect can be very difficult to incorporate into design work, as 2D paper can't even display such, but that is, at least, correct experimental data. As I said, a lot to think about and I await more information as, in a way, this is related to a description of the aether. I'm sure we can agree that a magnetic field has an effect on such a thing, one way or another, and that is a common starting point for a new analysis. Whether that is the basis or not, at least we have a solid picture to develop from....
To all, forgive these long posts, but I feel that the information is worth the typing. If you disagree, feel free to skip it as this whole thing is "Assuming" an aether, but may offer methods for a true "Proof" to be devised. That is my ultimate hope.
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