Here is the conversation between myself and Willie regarding "qr":
Michael Stallings
09/23/2013 14:24
In the abridged copy of your book, you list equations for induction of electric current, one of which is: ExB=qr/t
How can you cause a change the scalar electric field?
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Willie Johnson Jr.
09/24/2013 17:06
Just curious. Did you purchase a copy?
I asked because I'm not sure if I should post the section if you already have it in the book. The pertinent chapter is 25.12.
I must admit, making something flow that is ostensibly static does seem nonsensical but Tesla proved that this is indeed what occurs;
http://journal.borderlands.com/2010/the-broadcast-power-of-nikola-tesla-part-2/Again, the law of dimensions is always correct as has just been demonstrated by Tesla. (I derived these equations well before I knew of any of the work in this area by Tesla) Our job as scientists is to decipher and determine what are the physical analogues to the dimensional expressions.
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Michael Stallings
09/26/2013 10:12
Yes, I purchased the b/w abridged version, and hope to purchase the color version later this year. I'll take a look at chapter 25.12
Your work is one of many things that has inspired me to return to school. Keep it up!
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Willie Johnson
09/26/2013 12:32
Thank you Michael for both the purchase and the kind words. Lulu offers coupons monthly anywhere from 10 to 20 percent off so if you do decide to purchase the color edition try and use one of the coupons to defray the cost. The color illustrations really shine in the chapter dealing with the creation of the periodic chart, and particle structure. The b/w illustrations just do no do them justice.
As you can see the book is very broad and covers a several areas. Each section could very easily be expanded into its own separate book. I hope the book proves to be stimulating and if you have any questions or see anything that needs correcting please let me know.
Michael Stallings
09/28/2013 09:59
Looking at page 364, section 25.12 of the abridged version, you describe that the E field is regarded as the moving centrode and B as the fixed space centrode. Then you explain that even though qr may have zero velocity and though E may be fixed, qr is still effectively transferred from one location on the space centrode to the other, provided E and B are circular.
Is qr actually "moving" in a physical sense? You use the term "transfer" rather than "move", so I am not sure if qr moves or is some change in state.
If qr moves, then does qr possess momentum and inertia?
If qr can be moved, can we push against it?
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Willie Johnson
09/28/2013 16:42
Michael,
These are all really great questions. I must confess, I too find it rather confusing trying to express the character of qr. What is it? What is it doing? How can static quantities flow? I struggled with this concept when trying to grasp the implications of the Poynting vector. I looked it up again for review and sure enough qr and the Poynting vector seem to be related via S=1/u0(ExB )where S is the Poynting vector. An excellent discussion of the Poynting vector can be found here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-bDprTsnfoAlso when studying quaternions we get a slightly different view of vectors. Our conventional notion is something with magnitude and direction. But quaternionically we get an additional insight. It sees a vector as “A vector is the representative of transference through a given distance in a given direction.” This notion of transference or matriculation is crucial in this instance. Once we ascribe to qr a vector connotation it by definition moves or flows from point a to point b in a certain direction. How one describes the actual physical movement is where it gets tricky? obscure? unknowable? complicated? It also characterizes a scalar as a sphere and rotation or change of positioning upon the surface of that sphere creates a vector. Arc distance along a surface of a sphere is by definition a quaternion which in turn is a vector.
Lastly keep in mind that these are induction equations. Even if E and B are static and or scalar ( I’m pretty sure that E=F/q has to be a vector even though its considered as being an electrostatic field) they never the less quaternionically induce a flow. The quaternions say this must be the case. Remember, a vector is the representative of transference through a given distance in a given direction. How is this accomplished physically? That requires more research. The video describes the Poynting vector as being the energy per unit time per unit area. So qr is some form of flowing energy moving at the speed of light. Therefore qr definitely has momentum and inertia. Therefore we can push against it and it against us.
Here is a quote from another site:
“Is there any experimantal proof that electromagnetic wave exert pressure?
Yes, there is. Now, it's a little hard to see this in our everyday, ordinary life, because the pressure exerted by light waves (or radio waves, or X-rays) is very small compared to other common pressures: due to wind, or currents of water, or gravity pulling a box down onto a floor, etc. However, if we could eliminate all those other effects, we would be able to see macroscopic objects pushed around by the pressure of light.
A good way to eliminate other sources of pressure is to into space. With no air, and no water, and very little matter at all, objects are so isolated that the small pressure of sunlight can take over. Scientists have designed "solar sails" to take advantage of this isolation. Solar sails are basically large, very thin pieces of reflective foil. If they are placed into space so that one large, flat side faces the Sun, then electromagnetic waves from the Sun will strike the foil and bounce back, towards the Sun. As Newton's Third Law states, if the foil exerts a force on the photons (bouncing them backwards towards the Sun), then the photons exert a force of equal size but opposite direction on the foil (pushing it away from the Sun). These forces are small, so they don't produce large accelerations -- they are very much smaller than the accelerations of ordinary rocket engines. But they do require no fuel, just sunlight, and that's free. So for some purposes, these solar sails could be used to ferry material around the solar system. You can find a good reference page describing sails at
http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/~diedrich/solarsails/ “
Hope this helps.
Willie
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Willie Johnson
09/28/2013 16:47
Michael
To further expound upon qr and its relationship to S....
tExB=qr
ExB=qr/t
ExB=u0S
u0S=qr/t
tu0S=qr
The video describes the Poynting vector as being the energy (e) per unit time per unit area.
so
u0(e/A)=qr
So qr is still some type of energy though it is not ostensibly moving at c. It seems to be some form of a static representation of the Poynting vector. But again, as a vector quaternion it possesses an inherent flow, translation, transference, matriculation.
Willie
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Michael Stallings
09/28/2013 20:46
I remember Dirac's comments on the Poynting Vector and how energy flowed out of the source, and into the load, making no sense what so ever, and it doesn't tell you "how" it occurs.
Is there some sort of medium that is moving? Dirac and Tesla believed that empty space was actually filled with "something", Tesla believed in conductive carriers surrounded by a dielectric, and Dirac termed the "Dirac Sea" of virtual photons.
Here is the big question related to both: how do gyroscopic forces affect virtual entities? Since they spin just as physical entities do, they must follow the same rules.
How could we determine if qr is a physical movement or a transference of a condition? If you had a field of spinning tops and you made a circular pattern of them spin faster, it is not the same as if the circular pattern is actually rotating as a whole. The fact that qr can be moved so easily, is profound since it can in turn move something else and appear to cause a greater affect, but in actuality, we just used the spin which is provided freely.
I'll take a look at that video.
Thanks
Mike
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Willie Johnson
10/02/2013 14:06
Tesla and Maxwell and Faraday believed in the aether, Einstein space-time, modern contemporary scientists will laugh and ridicule the concept of an aether (bad science and crackpot theory) but they doggedly promote zero point energy and virtual particles. It's actually pretty amusing especially since Tesla quite clearly and definitively proved the existence of an aether or rather the existence of electrostatic impulses that permeate space. Bottom line; nobody believes in a completely empty space. Even Einstein gave this empty space physical characteristics.
People will construct Tesla coils and play with the streaming "lightening" emanating from the coil not really realizing that this is an electrostatic as opposed to an electromagnetic event. I'm speculating here but I see qr as being similar to that "lightening" being generated from a Tesla coil. Again, in generating streaming discharges from his coil, Tesla assiduously purposefully eliminated all alternating current. He purposefully generated only one way none oscillating electrical impulses and got rid of the electromagnetic characteristics of the current and only generated electrostatic impulses. Again we bump up against that seeming oxymoronic: electrostatic impulses. It is this aspect of his work that has gone almost completely unnoticed and unappreciated. Euler’s equation of quaternions, as well as GA as well as contemporary electrodynamics theory clearly shows, indeed, imposes that there must be a scalar expression of electrodynamics every bit as valid as there is of the vector/electromagnetic nature. Scientist and engineers are rooted in the vector/electromagnetic side ignoring the scalar side.
The GFT does not support the existence of virtual particles as currently described in contemporary electrodynamics. The GFT promotes unwaveringly the sanctity and inviolability of the law of the conservation of energy. Contemporary virtual particle theory does not. However the GFT does support the seamless transitioning of a particle/quaternion from one of pure vector to one of pure scalar. It is this transitioning that accounts for the peculiar behavior of "virtual" particles. qr could certainly be classified as being a scalar particle or entity.
Here is an excerpt from my second book, Po Pi Phi Psi. The second book delves into vortex based mathematics and its connection to quaternion mathematics. It was through this connection that I was able to see exactly what virtual particles were and how and why they behave as they do.
"We may easily provide a more reasonable classical interpretation of virtual particles via the algebra of quaternions and the rules of magic square construction...This is the essence of virtual particle behavior. We may consider virtual particles as being scalar particles of -1. They are directed scalars. They have a sense of direction. A sense of matriculation. Indeed, a quantum of direction. Real particles are vector particles. Tangible particles. They stay on the grid. Virtual particles or more accurately scalar particles (admittedly a contradiction in terms) go off grid. Real particles are vector particles and are tangible but are represented by the imaginary complex numbers. Virtual particles are scalar entities that are non tangible and are represented by real complex numbers. In terms of the complex numbers vectors are imaginary where scalars are real."
"How could we determine if qr is a physical movement or a transference of a condition? If you had a field of spinning tops and you made a circular pattern of them spin faster, it is not the same as if the circular pattern is actually rotating as a whole. The fact that qr can be moved so easily, is profound since it can in turn move something else and appear to cause a greater affect, but in actuality, we just used the spin which is provided freely."
This is quite profund and insightful. In fact what you have just described is precession. Again if you spin a top clockwise it simultaneously spins conterclockwise via precession. It still blows my mind trying to reconcile this self contained opposing spins and they not cancel each other out. (This is the basis of my countercurrents and conformers which in the beginning I couldn't come to grips with even though the math and physics kept saying that this had to be the case.)
It seems qr both moves and can be moved. I can't recommend enough that you research Tesla's electrostatic impulses to try and get a more in depth understanding of the static,scalar, impulse (which connotes movement) behaviour of charge. I've just scratched the surface on this subject. There is so much more that requires a tremendous amount of research.
Michael Stallings
10/02/2013 08:51
What are the units for qr?
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Willie Johnson
10/02/2013 12:59
coulomb meter
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Michael Stallings
10/02/2013 16:13
coulumb-meter ?
that the same units as an "electric dipole moment"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_dipole_momentWhen qr is time dependent, as listed in your previous post, there is a fluctuation, or change, in the charge density.
Per page 13, here:
http://uni-leipzig.de/~energy/pdf/freume3.pdfThere is an attractive or repulsive interaction with neighboring molecules. I'm not sure that both apply in this case, as this is way over my head.
It appears, to me at least, that this attraction or repulsion caused by the changing qr yanks the electrons in a conductor, which are also affected by the static magnetic field per 25.12 in the book. This causes the electrons to precess, producing a current.
Is Tesla the only person that discovered and utilized this form of induction? I'm not sure how to search for it in literature, maybe something like induction by change in charge density.
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I just noticed that I missed that long reply stating with "Tesla, Maxwell, and Faraday"
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