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Re: Don Smith's Documents and reference material « Reply #50 on: 2011-09-22, 18:41:25 »
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Look at relevant pictures of circular resonant tower coil setups on pgs. 3 & 8 of the manuscript in Peterae's original post.

Now look at Fig. 5 on pg. 4 of this:
U.S. Patent #6,900,557
High Power Modulator"
(This might be a good reason to look at patents for ideas and previous work that was done by others.  Just a thought.)

Look at the patent at...   http://www.pat2pdf.org

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Re: Don Smith's Documents and reference material « Reply #51 on: 2014-01-18, 13:26:45 »

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I have posted this on the "energetic forum" in the "Don Smith" thread (http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/4864-donald-smith-devices-too-good-true-347.html)
as i thought it was appropriate to start there as the first picture (for me) of undamped oscillations came from a Don Smith lecture.

However it stays ear deafening quiet overthere, so i am posting it now here also in an old Don Smith thread.
Perhaps i had to reveal that my testmeasurements (see video) DO show that it is possible to get an undamped oscillation (sort of) with the mentioned circuit.

The question is how to make good use of this.

Here my post as presented on the energetic forum:



I came across a picture of a negistor circuit (see below) on this forum: http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=2309.msg35955#msg35955

It was taken from this website from JL Naudin: http://bingofuel.online.fr/cnr/negosc.htm

It handles about negative resistors (negistors).

Following the hotlink on the Naudin website: "NDR Oscillator tests with Load" i came to this website: http://bingofuel.online.fr/cnr/ndrload.htm

which on its own has a hotlink ("About Negative Resistance Oscillators" by the University of St. Andrews) to this website: http://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scots_Guide/RadCom/part5/page1.html

At the bottom of that website i found the picture of the 3 oscillating states which was very familiar to me as i have seen a similar picture in one of Don Smith his lectures and was published also on this forum some time ago.

So i decided to build the little circuit (negistor) and do some tests to see if i could replicate those 3 oscillating states.


Video here:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWUxEtUd3Ow&feature=youtu.be


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Re: Don Smith's Documents and reference material « Reply #52 on: 2014-01-19, 05:32:10 »

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Thought I would post these from over-excitement in the past.
The wave forms are similar to what ITSU had posted about.
There seems to be a number of ways to get these.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5KU_DgFd8s&list=PL432CAB996A352280
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0C1uicaW7Ms&list=PL432CAB996A352280
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Re: Don Smith's Documents and reference material « Reply #53 on: 2015-06-23, 02:53:54 »
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I post this link to stimulate the imagination:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cni08WjLTcc&feature=youtu.be

I find the concept interesting in as much as the SG has been replaced by a series SiC mosfet switch, eliminating the need to rely on the broad frequency spectrum 'shotgun' effect of the SG. This technique opens up the possibility of *direct feedback* or *PLL* control of the L1 primary for frequency tracking.  Even DS didn't have that O0

Originally the video was released on the 'Sea of Energy' website in China by the user that went by the name of 'Salty Citrus'.
It was subsequently removed from the same the following month after initial publication and Salty Citrus was not heard from again.

I will let each draw their own conclusions.

take care, peace
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Re: Don Smith's Documents and reference material « Reply #54 on: 2015-07-13, 00:35:49 »
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       The thing that stumps me is that there's no wiring schematic for this device in the video clip or elsewhere, as well.   A schematic would help to go with the video.

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Re: Don Smith's Documents and reference material « Reply #55 on: 2015-07-13, 02:22:02 »
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Hello Lee

I was in contact with 'Salty Citrus' on the Sea of Energy forum at the time the original video was released in China.  He mentioned that this was not his groups first attempt at the D.S. replication. They had made other attempts at the replications, somewhere I have photos of one of his groups earlier machines. The earlier replications that I saw photos of used Flyback XFRMRs and S.G.s. 

What stands out in my opinion regarding this replication is the use of a H.V. Solid State switching network composed of Six Cree SiC mosfets in a series configuration. This allows precise control of the frequency(s). I will also add that I have NOT seen anyone else produce a SparkGap-less replication such as this.  His group spent some time, effort and money to get that up and running. 

It was NOT released on Youtube by his group. It was subsequently released on Youtube by myself and another by copies ripped from the original Chinese video site.  So this replication and video of such was NOT made to generate Youtube 'hits'.

He made mention that the device was not 'looped' because it was just a proof of concept and that his group next was going to expand upon the working concept to produce a larger and then self-looped version of the same. Also said that *ALL* the information needed to setup and tune the device is contained in Tesla's C.S.N.s.

Check page 3-89 in the PJK handbook PDF that I attached. It has some good information, although not complete.
I am the 'Man from Mexico' mentioned in the same article in the PJK handbook.  The information that PJK published came directly from the Chinese Forum, 'Sea of Energy' in China. 
I do have in my possession additional information. Just let me know if you are interested. Seems like most are tired of the D.S. regime after so many failed replications.

I personally believe after communicating with 'Salty Citrus' that his video does depict an actual working device (ie: working replication of D.S.).  I also find it interesting that he did not make any any overt claims of O.U., only posted the video to 'document' his groups progress.  Of course on the 'Sea of Energy' forum, it created quite a stir and not unlike Ruslan or Akula, all of a sudden there was a host of detractors and accusations.  The posted video was removed in less than 3 weeks of posting the link on the forum.  After that, 'Salty Citrus' never appeared again on the forum. Of course that was almost two years ago now, and nothing else has been heard from him or his group.

take care, peace
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Re: Don Smith's Documents and reference material « Reply #56 on: 2015-07-13, 06:18:28 »
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Don Smith claimed that his supply battery was kept fully charged by the setup during use, so he claimed a free energy input there.
   
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Re: Don Smith's Documents and reference material « Reply #57 on: 2015-07-13, 07:47:10 »
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Since we are stockpiling reference material.  Add this one to the list.  Seems pretty important and gets into the nitty-gritty of standing waves.  Surely all of Don Smith's devices are using this principal.
   
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Re: Don Smith's Documents and reference material « Reply #58 on: 2015-07-13, 22:59:21 »
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Concerning  lost_bro ' s  posted Reply #55, on this thread...
       Thanks, 'bro...
It really helps me to have a schematic in front of me to look at while I'm also reading descriptive material along with it from a post.   I looked at what you posted and one drawing in particular reminded me of Kapanadze's continuing efforts to try and reproduce some of Tesla's work (I believe---that's how I would look at it, anyhow.)
       J. Naudin in France has replicated a similar circuit to yours, in theory, and that one circuit can power up 1500 W.  of 50 Hz spotlight /floodlamps with no strain on the system.   I had communications of a personal nature with someone who was well-versed on electronic engineering and showed that person your post, and that individual was pleased with the design.
       This person and I have a certain security clearance, but what I gave you just now was a general opinion.   Repeating:  The Kapanedze-style circuit will give you OU---IF---it's properly tuned to resonance throughout the entire circuit.

That was what I was told.   I was given the task to compile information and that's what I'm doing.   Your circuit, in at least my opinion, has merit in its overall theory as to its efficiency.

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Re: Don Smith's Documents and reference material « Reply #59 on: 2015-07-14, 05:08:43 »

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I'll throw in my 2 pence worth. After 5 years research I have come to the conclusion that DS was creating VAR.
The var was 100s of times greater than the input, thus enabling him to take out some energy without affecting the oscillations
which created the var in the first place.


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Re: Don Smith's Documents and reference material « Reply #60 on: 2015-07-14, 08:40:15 »
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Quote from: Aking.21 on 2015-07-14, 05:08:43
I'll throw in my 2 pence worth. After 5 years research I have come to the conclusion that DS was creating VAR.
The var was 100s of times greater than the input, thus enabling him to take out some energy without affecting the oscillations
which created the var in the first place.


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Re: Don Smith's Documents and reference material « Reply #61 on: 2015-07-14, 19:34:47 »
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Quote from: Aking.21 on 2015-07-14, 05:08:43
I'll throw in my 2 pence worth. After 5 years research I have come to the conclusion that DS was creating VAR.
The var was 100s of times greater than the input, thus enabling him to take out some energy without affecting the oscillations
which created the var in the first place.


Yes but that is a real tough one since it contradicts common sense. Taking out some energy normally equates to reducing the amplitude of the oscillation. Are you able to do it without diminishing the oscillation? I'd like to see the circuit that can, and I have seen DS circuits and the replications.....nothing in those circuits tells me they work  as claimed.

Also, getting an undamped oscillation is commonplace if you have a source of energy to top off the resistive and radiative losses. It is done every day in radios, induction heaters and transmitters etc. Doing it without a source of energy is the trick.

In a steady state or quiescent undamped oscillation the supplied energy exactly matches the losses.

In an undamped oscillation inceasing in amplitude at some rate, energy must be supplied in an increasing fashion, linearly or exponentialy.


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Re: Don Smith's Documents and reference material « Reply #62 on: 2015-07-15, 19:39:59 »

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It only contradicts common sense if the input is rigidly affected by the output.

I suspect the trick is in the output section....


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Re: Don Smith's Documents and reference material « Reply #63 on: 2015-07-15, 20:54:00 »

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Devising an Output section which produces energy
without depleting the Resonant section would be
quite a trick.  It would almost certainly mean that
the Output Energy was pulled from another source.

This feat, by the way, has been accomplished with
certain technologies under development in the
Deep Underground Military Bases with the assistance
of certain Alien species.  Inter-Dimensional energy
transfer. Daniel Pomerleau has this unique "gift"
as well.


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Re: Don Smith's Documents and reference material « Reply #64 on: 2016-01-14, 17:57:08 »
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Hello All

I wanted to share something interesting regarding the D.S. table top device.  Of course I am running the sim.s with Ltspice and using a configuration for the primary side according to the Chinese 'Salty Citrus' replication.

The first attachment is noteworthy because the waveform *apparently* demonstrates Negative Resistance, aka the 'Trumpet Waveform'.
I find this interesting because D.S. always claimed that the 'Trumpet Waveform' was an indicator/effect which is seen/necessary for his device to work.
Needless to say that the tuning to see this effect is very exact, even with Ltspice and will probably be much more difficult to tune in the real world.

The second and third attachment show an interesting effect which makes perfect sense.  A voltage produced nano-pulse (primary side) is *pushing*/exciting the Current waveform in the secondary coil.  You can see that as I change the drive frequency sub-harmonics, the succession/repetition rate of the nano-pulse changes.  The effect is the same......  nano-pulse spike from a modulated carrier wave (perfectly in sync) can excite/produce amperage on the D.S. secondary coil.

Please note that this simulation is a W.I.P. and the harmonics/sub-harmonics are close but NOT exact yet.  This requires many hours of running simulations..........

On a related side note, I am building this device as I progress with my knowledge of the mechanisms involved.  This build does NOT incorporate a spark gap as did D.S.,  I am using x6 Cree SiC mosfets wired in series (equivalent of a 7.2KV switch) for switch.  Yes, the PCB has been tested and can generate 62ns pulses up into the megahertz range (pulse width adjustable 62-100ns).

take care, peace
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Re: Don Smith's Documents and reference material « Reply #65 on: 2016-01-14, 18:48:49 »

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Hi lost_bro

Looks good, should be interesting to see what happens when you get it altogether.

Thanks for sharing your build, wish i had more time to do a build myself.

Cheers
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Re: Don Smith's Documents and reference material « Reply #66 on: 2016-01-14, 20:52:26 »
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Nice Sims Lost Bro, Here is the wave form I got from a Don Smith "Like" setup. I called the wave form a Swordfish because it had that look to it. What I find interesting with mine is that the bottom is drawn differently by the scope than the top, the bottom is brighter. Here is the thing there is no load, if a load is applied and power is transferred well then I think the wave form changes. I still find air core transformers interesting. But more so now I find using a DC input pulse or better still an alternating input pulse of 12 volts (not square wave necessarily) causes the secondaries to produce very nice sine waves with a relatively high voltage if tuned, can be up to 1600 volts peak to peak on one side tank, easily with well under 1 amp input and a couple of amps of current in the tank, but trying to take reliable and accurate measurements is almost impossible, I see no OU from the input compared to resistive loads dissipation ect.. 

I like the circuit you are building. The code will be interesting as would the circuit diagram.  :).

In the end I got the Swordfish to swallow his tail. hehehe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjuE91-qXu0

P.S. I still have no bench here yet to work on.
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Re: Don Smith's Documents and reference material « Reply #67 on: 2016-02-01, 18:38:50 »
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Just wanted to report another anomaly involving the D.S-Chinese replication:

The output (split secondary coil) is asymmetrical with respect to voltage wave forms between halves.  The *free wheeling* (ie: exploiting natural capacitance) side of the coil exhibits a very pronounced ability to produce negative voltage spikes. Depending on the conditions, the spikes will be on the order of KiloVolts.
Under *certain* special resonant conditions, these will be rhythmic in nature and hence repetitive/cyclic.  This -pumping action- to ground is something I have never seen before in other simulations......... I am excited to see how it functions in the real world application.  I speculate that maybe this is the ground *pumping* action reported observed by D.S.

Also noted is the *special resonance* condition of which I have attached a couple of screenshots from LTspice.
It will be noted that the wave form seems to indicate a negative resistance type condition, ie: the expanding Trumpet shaped waveform which can be seen to repeat itself over and over all the while expanding in amplitude during the simulation.
This *special resonance* condition is not Simple resonance as this system is a composite of 3 capacitances in series, parallel coupled with 2 inductors likewise in series.  I am currently trying to formulate the mathematical aspects regarding this special condition of resonance.

The primary side of the 'Salty Citrus' D.S. replication seems to function as a Frequency converter, or better said, a transmission which shifts frequencies.  Usually ones thinks of a XFRMR as a device which interconverts voltage/current .......... this primary side setup shifts frequencies so a low KHz signal can produce and sustain Multi-MHz frequencies...... a frequency modulated carrier wave.

All for now,
take care, peace
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Re: Don Smith's Documents and reference material « Reply #68 on: 2016-06-19, 00:48:26 »
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Good day all:

I have attached another interesting *read* from our Russian friends............
It seems to go back a few years and was recently brought to me attention by a friend, thanks Harish.

I won't go into much detail as you can read it for yourself if you are interested.  The link is to the original posting on a Russian site: http://001-lab.at.ua/index/donald_smit/0-43

The posted PDF was translated with Google, so it has the typical grammatical/syntax errors, but the idea is understandable.

I will note that there are similarities between this authors findings and that of 'Salty Citrus' from the Chinese group.  These findings do not contradict Don Smith but rather, in my opinion fill in the missing gaps that Ole' Don always hinted about but could / would never tell us directly. Frequently Don Smith admitted that he purposely omitted pertinent details.

"Abnormally high efficiency for me starts to begin at the pump pulse duration of less than 1 microsecond. The smaller the pulse width,
the greater the amplitude of the pump pulse you can apply, the higher the efficiency."  *paraphrased from attached pdf doc.*

Also wanted to update on my own progress:  https://youtu.be/3C1eSpL10j8
I have attached some photos of my *SiC_Pack_Driver_v1* pcb.  This pcb is the driver board for my SiC_Pack_v1 board, which is in essence a 7.2 KV SiC switch.

This is the first test of the SiC_Pack_Driver_v1 pcb.  After extensive testing with the magnetics of the first hand made SiC_driver board, it became apparent that in order to reach the Nano-second precision required for this project, a *real* pcb must be produced.

So we have the *SiC_Pack_Driver_v1* pcb.

As can be seen, (only testing one of the six channels of the pcb) the rise and fall times are respectable for a high speed magnetics based / isolated SiC Mosfet driver.  Actually we are at the *spec sheet* limits for the CREE C2M0080120 SiC mosfet.  Of course a digital based driver setup could easily half these speeds, but being old school I opted for the magnetics based isolation as it is pretty much bullet-proof. 

The single channel was tested to a frequency of over 1.4MHz @ pulse width of 76-78ns. The rise / fall times are 24ns / 20ns approx. with test toroid. Finished pcb will have slightly faster rise / fall times do to shorter lead length on installed toroids.

Inside information from the Chinese replication group made note of a 80ns pulse width...........

All for now.

take care, peace
lost_bro
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Re: Don Smith's Documents and reference material « Reply #69 on: 2019-11-10, 11:16:44 »

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Concerning a question from member "Utopia Now" on Overunity.com here:

https://overunity.com/12736/kapanadze-cousin-dally-free-energy/msg540156/#msg540156

about where these Don Smith ilustrations come from (see also my post #51 above) i did a 5 minutes
Google search and found these ilustrations to come from the book: "Vacuum Tubes" see this link for the PDF (too big to attach the PDF here):
https://archive.org/details/Vacuum_Tubes_Karl_Spangenberg_1948/page/n595

See PDF page 595 and on for the ilustrations and more important the accompanying text.

Guess its appropriate to link the PDF here also.


Itsu
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Re: Don Smith's Documents and reference material « Reply #70 on: 2019-11-10, 22:03:52 »

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Mmm. I don't understand the equations but this certainly caught my eye.  Downloadable PDF https://mirror.thelifeofkenneth.com/lib/electronics_archive/Vacuum_Tubes_Karl_Spangenberg_1948_text.pdf
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Re: Don Smith's Documents and reference material « Reply #71 on: 2019-11-11, 09:33:36 »

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Jim,

well as i understand it, when R (resistance) in an RLC circuit gets negative (so adding energy instead of consuming it), then the signal will increase as shown.

The problem is to get this resistance to become negative, that would be the holy grail.

In G=1/Rsh,    G is conductance and Rsh is the RLC resistance.


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Re: Don Smith's Documents and reference material « Reply #72 on: 2019-11-11, 11:07:55 »

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Jim,

well as i understand it, when R (resistance) in an RLC circuit gets negative (so adding energy instead of consuming it), then the signal will increase as shown.

The problem is to get this resistance to become negative, that would be the holy grail.

In G=1/Rsh,    G is conductance and Rsh is the RLC resistance.


Itsu

Yeah I thought that was the case from the diagrams. My brain has trouble with the concept of negative resistance.
   
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Re: Don Smith's Documents and reference material « Reply #73 on: 2019-11-11, 16:17:27 »

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Yeah I thought that was the case from the diagrams. My brain has trouble with the concept of negative resistance.
Even more puzzling is the concept of negative temperature. ???

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Re: Don Smith's Documents and reference material « Reply #74 on: 2019-11-11, 20:28:17 »
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I do have a comment from an experimenter who has manifested and played with this Wave form

awaiting approval to share [I usually just pass such along but ??
 also there might be another very interesting video from same contributer

and after reading the preface to the Vid [no I have not seen it yet]

It is an amazing experiment !!

sorry if I am teasing ,but I will summarize both in my own words if I have to
[just not the same as this skilled presenters writings or Oration /presentation]
awaiting approval

Note to Smudge
Manifesting cold in the environment ??

more please if possible
   
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