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Peterae	SM Talked about a Thermonuclear explosion « on: 2011-12-10, 22:06:07 »
Group: Administrator Hero Member Posts: 3961	I have never heard anyone mention any significance of SM mentioning a Nuclear Explosion. Well it turns out it's a EMP that's produced. See Explanation below http://textfiles.com/survival/emp.txt Quote Significance of the Problem ------------ -- --- ------- THREE ten-megaton thermonuclear weapons detonated 250 miles ( 400 kilometers ) above the United States or Canada would produce EMP's strong enough to knock out the entire electrical power grid of North America including the entire civilian-telephone network, and just about every broadcast station. Virtually every piece of unprotected electronic equipment in the country -- radios, TV sets, computers, electronic controls in homes, office build- ings, factories, cars, airplanes, and instruments in hospitals -- would be damaged, if not destroyed. The pulses would also damage or destroy large portions of the military command's control and communication (C3) system. A chain reaction could be set in motion at nuclear power plants, due to elec- tromagnetic pulses. Although it is a point that is frequently disputed, the possibility exists that reactor core meltdowns might occur as a result of EMP's. The meltdowns would be a by-product of electronic control system failure. The control systems are used to monitor and control the processes at the plants. The EMP's could cause the system to fail and result in partial or complete loss of control over vital functions, causing subsequent melt- downs. We know that those nuclear plants are designed to be fail safe, but has anyone considered the possibility of every circuit breaker in a plant failing at the same instant? Characteristics of EMP's --------------- -- ----- AT an altitude of 250 miles, the gamma rays produced in the first few nano- seconds ( billionths-of-a-second ) of a nuclear explosion can travel hundreds of kilometers before colliding with electrons in atmospheric molecules. That kind of collision may take place in a region 2,000 miles in diameter and 6-miles thick. Electrons are accelerated by those collisions, a phen- omenon referred to as the Compton effect; and upon reaching the earth's magnetic field, they set up electromagnetic pulses that radiate downward toward earth (Fig.1). Due to the extremely large area of collision, vast amounts of ground area are exposed to electromagnetic fields with strengths up to 50,000-volts per meter. The ground area exposed to electromagnetic pulses could cover the entire continental United States and most of Canada by one nuclear blast; if not, certainly large regions such as New England would be electrically and electronically devastated. FIG. 1 -- Electrons set into motion by gamma rays from a nuclear explosion in space will produce enormous electromotive pulses (EMP's) when the negative charges enter the Earth's magnetic-field. It is estimated that the ideal height for such an explosion should be 250 miles above the Earth's surface. ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: : : : O - Nuclear Explosion : : : : / / : : / / - Gamma Rays : : --------------------------- : : < Earth's Magnetic Field > : : --------------------------- : : ***** *** *** : : * * * : : * EMP * EMP * : : *** * * : : *** *** ***** : : =============================== : : EARTH : : : :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

Peterae	Re: SM Talked about a Thermonuclear explosion « Reply #1 on: 2011-12-10, 22:30:25 »
Group: Administrator Hero Member Posts: 3961	EMP I wonder if this is what you would call Radiant Energy and exactly what Tesla produced from his stout wire experiments remember the 90 degree radiation. Here's an article on EMP , quiet interesting what it says about Lightning strikes notice the 90 degree radiation http://www.cci-msc.com/surgecontrol/fundamentals_overstress.html Quote Electromagnetic waves are formed by the discharge and radiate at 90 degrees from the path of the strike. So we see electromagnetic waves propagating through air directly away from the discharge. We also observe ground (Earth) currents propagating away from the point of ground strike. Direct strikes on power cables inject high currents into primary circuits producing voltage transients by flowing through ground resistance or through the impedance of the primary circuit. (See Figure 2)

Peterae	Re: SM Talked about a Thermonuclear explosion « Reply #2 on: 2011-12-10, 22:40:52 »
Group: Administrator Hero Member Posts: 3961	Tv's use leaded glass in the construction of the CRT this helps absorb some of the ~~gamma~~ Xrays produced by the high voltage. I believe it maybe quiet feasible to assume early crt's did not yet have the glory of lead shielding. If a fault develops in the EHT supply or it gets missadjusted and exceeds the design specification then it is quiet possible for the ~~gamma~~ Xrays to reach higher levels, We have electron guns firing 3 streams of electrons in a colour TV Red,Green and blue, the electrons bombard a phosphorescent screen to allow the 3 colours to be seen, sounds like we have all the ingredients that causes the EMP in a nuclear explosion built within a TV that is running at way higher unregulated HT fault condition. « Last Edit: 2011-12-11, 08:36:17 by Peterae »

BEP	Re: SM Talked about a Thermonuclear explosion « Reply #3 on: 2011-12-11, 14:05:52 »
Group: Guest	Are you thinking a TPU acts as a sink for ionospheric potential? I don't recall SM talking about things nuclear. Where would I find that discussion?

Peterae	Re: SM Talked about a Thermonuclear explosion « Reply #4 on: 2011-12-11, 15:38:14 »
Group: Administrator Hero Member Posts: 3961	Well i hope i have that right WW, i am sure SM talked about the magnetic field created during an explosion oh or was it Spheric, you got me confused now.

Chef	Re: SM Talked about a Thermonuclear explosion « Reply #5 on: 2011-12-11, 15:43:02 »
Jr. Member Posts: 69	According to SM it was Dr. Schinzinger who mentioned it. You can find it in the attached pdf. ------------------------ Steven_Mark_TPU_compilation.pdf (634.84 kB - downloaded 372 times.) --------------------------- "A designer knows he has achieved perfection not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away." Antoine de Saint-Exupery

Peterae	Re: SM Talked about a Thermonuclear explosion « Reply #6 on: 2011-12-11, 15:48:32 »
Group: Administrator Hero Member Posts: 3961	Thanks Chef Although then not from SM, maybe time to ditch this thread then. I was trying to point to the possible significance of switching transients and the possibility of them being what Tesla called Radiant energy, and that it maybe possible to capture the energy by some sort of 90 degree induction. Because of the 90 degree event, it maybe possible to increase their power level or focus them into a V^2 power device.

giantkiller	Re: SM Talked about a Thermonuclear explosion « Reply #7 on: 2011-12-11, 15:52:26 »
Group: Elite Experimentalist Hero Member Posts: 1593 Frequency equals matter...	Spherics. Sm mentioned 2 freqs. Ramset/Chet posted an excellent synopsis of 1 pulse right after the initial pulse. --------------------------- http://purco.qc.ca/ftp/

Peterae	Re: SM Talked about a Thermonuclear explosion « Reply #8 on: 2011-12-11, 15:55:43 »
Group: Administrator Hero Member Posts: 3961	gk and Chef looks like both mentioned it Quote from pdf above Quote It was during this discussion with Dr. Schinzinger that he pointed out that during an atomic explosion aside from the gigantic blast wave and heat produced there is also an extremely large magnetic force which is so strong that it travels way out into space during the explosion. The magnetic wave is so strong that it will completely destroy any unprotected electronic circuits of solid state design. That is why solid state radios will be useless after an nuclear attack on your country. Let us ponder where the huge magnetic field comes from when you explode an atomic bomb. It is just created? Is it converted? Is it part of the earth somehow? Is it just a by product of the fabric of time and space being ripped into pieces in a fragment of a second? I am curious as to where this unbelievably huge magnetic force comes from during an atomic explosion... It is something else to think about. My point being Quote destroy any unprotected electronic circuits of solid state design. radiant energy/ EMP/ Power Spike / Kick they could be all the same thing We know from Tesla that we need to make sure the current does not reverse during creation of the radiant pulse.

BEP	Re: SM Talked about a Thermonuclear explosion « Reply #9 on: 2011-12-11, 16:53:57 »
Group: Guest	I wouldn't discount the whole idea. SM did mention distant thunderstorms and how they were (supposedly) detected when they were at different points in their travel path. This made me think there was some importance to the distance between points where the moving storm was detectable. A lightning strike does produce an EMP with a compression EM wave. ( I know peeps dislike the reference to compression waves but they are simply a different perspective of a transverse wave. i.e. You are looking at a sudden current flow traveling from your left to your right.... the increasing magnetic field created by that current flow appears to you as a sudden change in the density of the EM flux.) If you ever experience a close proximity lightning strike you will feel the 'thump' of the strike. 'Close' being so close the only thunder you hear (If you can still hear) will be reflected sound.

Grumpy	Re: SM Talked about a Thermonuclear explosion « Reply #10 on: 2011-12-11, 17:04:41 »
Group: Tinkerer Hero Member Posts: 3948 tExB=qr	Tesla crowning realization was that there is no energy in anything that does not come from the environment: there is no energy in matter other than that received from the environment Everyone here should explore Radiant Energy. Have any of you witnessed the charging effect?

Peterae	Re: SM Talked about a Thermonuclear explosion « Reply #11 on: 2011-12-11, 17:25:07 »
Group: Administrator Hero Member Posts: 3961	Quote Have any of you witnessed the charging effect? See i am thinking that all modern design is in place to kill EMP pulses, for instance with a PCB a ground plane is used, Tesla could charge a metal plate from the radiant effect, pcbs use this pate charging as a plate dissipation same thing really. If the ground plane is in place to dissipate the spike's energy then it must manifest as a ground current, this could be utilized as a self feeding system, i am more interested in the mixing of spikes and the resulting magnitude of the resulting energy. I am wondering if a emp is created and allowed to dissipate over a ground plane and a resistor is placed in the ground plane path wether the energy can be monitored, can a negative and positive emp negate each other and can a positive and positive emp add in a V^2 fashion, i am not sure how much work has been done on this, i imagine it has been studied a lot the last decade or so, with as view to killing emp. We know that Tesla place filters on the DC lines that exhibited the killing surges on power up, sounds the same as EM control as well, all these things seem to be very similar in nature. So switch fast EM pulse radiates at 90 degrees to the conductor, collect with a large surface collector and use the ground current to feed the system.

BEP	Re: SM Talked about a Thermonuclear explosion « Reply #12 on: 2011-12-11, 17:45:42 »
Group: Guest	Quote from: Grumpy on 2011-12-11, 17:04:41 Have any of you witnessed the charging effect? Yes I have and do. There is no doubt this occurs. It is difficult to produce without high levels of energy being dissipated but less difficult if you stop trying to employ math intended for transverse wave propagation. The other difficulty is saying you understand that a field is a property of space and not the object but everything you do indicates you think otherwise. I'll say it again as it always rings true: People see what they either wish to see or are able to relate to previous experience. Why do so many motorcyclists die? Primarily because other motorists don't see them. They are expecting two headlights, not one. The motorcycle didn't exist.

Magluvin	Re: SM Talked about a Thermonuclear explosion « Reply #13 on: 2011-12-11, 19:04:05 »
Group: Guest	Being that the subject is EMP... http://www.naturalnews.com/034344_EMP_weapons_electronics_modern_civilization.html Would there be any way to protect devices from this? The new thing seems to be, to convert all paper records to electronic. Would CDs or DVDs be affected? Not that any drives will work after. Crazy Mags

Grumpy	Re: SM Talked about a Thermonuclear explosion « Reply #14 on: 2011-12-11, 20:12:06 »
Group: Tinkerer Hero Member Posts: 3948 tExB=qr	If anyone in this thread will replicate the pulsed HV charging effect, we can un-poison the TPU well-spring and move forward. (I'd show it myself, but I have to do a lot of work to put it all together. One of my greatest bench mistakes is to keep using the same parts, leaving little of the previous setups. It's much easier to build new setups.)

Peterae	Re: SM Talked about a Thermonuclear explosion « Reply #15 on: 2011-12-11, 21:08:00 »
Group: Administrator Hero Member Posts: 3961	Imagine if there's a recipe for creating the ultimate EMpulse, we know they are created by switching noise but there must be an optimum ingredient that can make them bigger and more effective, i am wondering now if this is what was causing my controllers to crash during the delayed pulse experiments. The 2 whitenoise channels that produced that nice big pulse in my copper ring, maybe when the timing is right i produced an EMP I wonder if switching current or switching voltage creates bigger EMPulses. So chaps whats the best way of producing EMpulses without using loads of energy in the first place, once the EMP is created it could be collected in many places at the same time, i am imagining it being like a high speed ripple in a pond as Tesla could walk around the room and see if or how it varied with distance.

Grumpy	Re: SM Talked about a Thermonuclear explosion « Reply #16 on: 2011-12-11, 22:33:48 »
Group: Tinkerer Hero Member Posts: 3948 tExB=qr	I'm glad everyone is talking about these things again.

Peterae	Re: SM Talked about a Thermonuclear explosion « Reply #17 on: 2011-12-11, 22:49:44 »
Group: Administrator Hero Member Posts: 3961	Well we certainly need a fresh look at this i think. Quote If anyone in this thread will replicate the pulsed HV charging effect I think this is a given certainty, Tesla charged objects and metal plates, and then there's the ground plane that channels to earth, we have also seen a video by borderland showing this to happen with a HV disc cap. Funny everytime i think of radiant energy i keep thinking spark gap. Tesla, Don Smith, Grey, Kapanadze theres probably more. EMP's/ transients in every device Maybe the the best move would be to build Tesla's radiant collector and fire our EMP's at that as a guide to how well we are producing them.

Grumpy	Re: SM Talked about a Thermonuclear explosion « Reply #18 on: 2011-12-12, 01:58:29 »
Group: Tinkerer Hero Member Posts: 3948 tExB=qr	Tesla Radiant Energy detector per his two patents is a good start. I have an old road sign I can polish up for this per Tesla's instructions. Ground can be to plumbing or electrical ground rod. A second test would be to use the spark gap with deflector as a source. I have several thoughts on this when the time comes.

Grumpy	Re: SM Talked about a Thermonuclear explosion « Reply #19 on: 2011-12-12, 14:56:39 »
Group: Tinkerer Hero Member Posts: 3948 tExB=qr	Darkspeed produced a stinging effect here: http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=561.msg8739#msg8739

Grumpy	Re: SM Talked about a Thermonuclear explosion « Reply #20 on: 2011-12-12, 15:48:01 »
Group: Tinkerer Hero Member Posts: 3948 tExB=qr	Here is a diagram of a setup to produce the Radiant Energy Effect. I do not recommend a Microwave transformer unless you limit the current as it is quite high (1000mA ?) (It did work but I was afraid I would smoke the coil so stopped using it.) Very little current is manifest in the coil, it never gets hot, it never arcs over. I use high temp magnet wire. Note that the slightest nick in the insulation will cause to arc, but this type of insulation is very tough. This is drawn from memory, so it might have errors, but gives the general idea. One cool thing is that you can hold a screwdriver near a conductor in front of the coil and draw an arc off the conductor to the screwdriver. ------------------------ SM Talked about a Thermonuclear explosion Radiant Energy Effect Setup.PNG (93.51 kB, 1093x741 - viewed 1025 times.)

tao	Re: SM Talked about a Thermonuclear explosion « Reply #21 on: 2011-12-12, 15:53:24 »
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tao	Re: SM Talked about a Thermonuclear explosion « Reply #22 on: 2011-12-12, 16:38:39 »
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Grumpy	Re: SM Talked about a Thermonuclear explosion « Reply #23 on: 2011-12-12, 17:41:02 »
Group: Tinkerer Hero Member Posts: 3948 tExB=qr	Glad to see everyone warming to the idea of RE. We need to move beyond the same points and references that have been touted and reposted over the last several years, with very little, if any, usable explanations accompanying them. Longitduinal waves - Waves of "what"? How are they made? How are they used? Gravity pulses - why is it called a gravity pulse? How did "gravity" even enter into this conversation? I won't even bring up Bearden's terminology...

tao	Re: SM Talked about a Thermonuclear explosion « Reply #24 on: 2011-12-12, 18:27:43 »
Group: Guest	« Last Edit: 2012-10-13, 22:18:46 by tao »

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