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The Four Quadrants... « on: 2011-11-28, 20:41:14 »
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« Last Edit: 2012-10-13, 22:20:39 by tao »
   
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Re: The Four Quadrants... « Reply #1 on: 2011-11-29, 03:27:47 »
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A true work of art, tao  O0

Nice, how it all comes together.

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(+) and (-) were used for convenience
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Hard to describe something poynting at other dimensions with only a plus and minus.
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I see where the memristor fits... dead-center but with all eight points of the four quadrants orthogonal in some perspective.
   
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Re: The Four Quadrants... « Reply #2 on: 2011-11-29, 03:53:17 »
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Heh!

I'd say that is a vast multidimensional improvement over this....
   
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Re: The Four Quadrants... « Reply #3 on: 2011-11-29, 12:25:06 »
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Quote from: WaveWatcher on 2011-11-29, 03:27:47
A true work of art, tao  O0

Nice, how it all comes together.
   ;D

Hard to describe something poynting at other dimensions with only a plus and minus.
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I see where the memristor fits... dead-center but with all eight points of the four quadrants orthogonal in some perspective.

Thanks!

LOL, yea, indeed, highly multi-dimensional...


Quote from: WaveWatcher on 2011-11-29, 03:53:17
Heh!

I'd say that is a vast multidimensional improvement over this....




HAHAHA!
   
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Re: The Four Quadrants... « Reply #4 on: 2011-11-29, 13:22:24 »
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« Last Edit: 2012-10-13, 22:20:34 by tao »
   
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Re: The Four Quadrants... « Reply #5 on: 2011-12-01, 01:16:29 »
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Quote from: tao on 2011-11-29, 13:22:24
A brief recap of Inductance's 'motional physics' ties:
The 'Velocity of Inductance' is Resistance
The 'Acceleration of Inductance' is Elastance
The 'Jerk of Inductance' is Capacitive Reactance

I think I'll stop this post for now, don't want to make anyone's head blow up! ROFL!

I think the real brain damage will be an effect from the current discussion swamping all others  C.C

I'm going to need a bit more of the concept relating motional physics velocity to resistance. I can visualize reduced mho's due to CEMF and other things...

 
   
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Re: The Four Quadrants... « Reply #6 on: 2011-12-01, 14:42:58 »
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Re: The Four Quadrants... « Reply #7 on: 2011-12-01, 22:48:40 »
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Aha!

I thank you for that explanation.

In the first sentence I realized WHY I was having trouble associating velocity to inductance.

I don't see current as 'mass in motion' because I have long since believed the only electron motion is primarily almost random and more activity in the radial sense than the axial direction. To me, electric current is transfer of energy via exchange of momentum in the form of electric charge interaction between electrons. Apply the Lorentz force to an electron moving down a wire already having a magnetic field from earlier travelers.

The shoe still fits. I just need to keep my mind open  ;)
   
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Re: The Four Quadrants... « Reply #8 on: 2011-12-02, 03:55:57 »
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Just a curiosity I wish to ponder....

Your graphic may answer a question I've had for a while.

Why do electrical circuits almost always only fit well with the impedance analog and not with the mobility analog?

Mechanical systems may be thought of in either way. Not so easily with electrical systems.

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I just realized your idea doesn't care and neither should I. A little manipulation of the variables and it is still the same thing...


Oh well, I suppose I am approaching that age where you may frustrate me by placing me in a round room and telling me that I may only piss in the corner  ???
   
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Re: The Four Quadrants... « Reply #9 on: 2011-12-02, 14:44:32 »
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Quote from: WaveWatcher on 2011-12-02, 03:55:57

Oh well, I suppose I am approaching that age where you may frustrate me by placing me in a round room and telling me that I may only piss in the corner  ???



ROFL!!!
   
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Re: The Four Quadrants... « Reply #10 on: 2012-01-23, 23:45:40 »
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Quote from: tao on 2011-11-29, 13:22:24
...my diagram looks rather unlike the conventional ones that you have surely seen everywhere.

Tao, do you mean this particular conventional diagram?



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« Last Edit: 2012-01-25, 05:25:03 by Rosphere »
   
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