Paul-R: "All of the COP calculations have a divide-by-zero error!" Who cares? We are in Monty Python or "Jeux Sans Frontières" territory now. You told me to look at the spreadsheet as an indicator of some data showing the circuit works. But the spreadsheet showed no electrical input power calculations at all, so the spreadsheet contained no data at all showing that the circuit worked. And you say, "Who cares?" Meanwhile, back in experimenter's corner... Cherryman makes a bold move and fills up his bathtub with water and makes some measurements: So I filled up the bath
- 125 liter ( filled with measurement bucket) - Stirred and measured start temp: 12 Celsius. (New temp meter Elro M990) - Put device on bottom - Left it for 1 hour and 5 minutes - Device out - Some good stirring - End temp 23 Celsius (new temp meter Elro M990) - Power used 1.7 kWh ( Consumption meter)
According to formula:
................................Ltr......S-Temp.....E-Temp.........Delta-T Sec........kWh......kWh Normal.....Cop Test 125 liter (bath).....125.....12............23............... 3900.................1,700.....1,788............1, 05
Seems not bad, but not spectacular. Although one has to consider a large heat loss from a metal bath to it's surroundings and air. Note that he is using what appears to be a medium quality no-name-brand multimeter that has a temperature function. It's possible that it only displays the temperature without any digits after the decimal point. I couldn't find detailed specifications online with a five-minute search effort. So you are looking at the first measurement that overcomes the granularity problem with his Kill-a-Watt-type meter although there may be a granularity problem with his temperature readings. If his bathtub is a modern thin-walled bathtub then its relatively small thermal mass and half-decent thermal insulation should yield decent data considering we are heating up a huge 125 liter thermal mass of water. And lo and behold, with the reasonable caveats stated above, his data clearly shows that the water heater is operating at approximately unity. As far as I am concerned Cherryman is the first person to present credible data, and the primary reason for that is he heated up 125 liters of water and that overcame the granularity problem in measuring the electrical watt-hours into the system. Sorry Chet, but this is the real world in action. "Resonance" cannot magically produce heat out of thin air. And the reason I put it in quotations is the free air tuning of your can is nullified the instant it is immersed in water, which I have stated before. I have to assume many people on the thread lurk here and also read that statement a few months ago but ignored it. That's the "lunatics taking over the asylum" factor in action. Neutrinos are highly overrated also! MileHigh
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