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Author Topic: Free Energy Generator For Sale  (Read 1027 times)
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Fully built free energy generators for sale or you can buy plans but the plans cost almost as much as the 1Kw unit.

This is what you all have been waiting for ....  Except it's probably a scam.  But just because it sounds too good to be true doesn't mean it is ;)   Here's what they offer - a 1 kilowatt unit for $1250 which includes shipping from China.  A 3 killowatt unit for $2550, a 5 kilowatt for $2850, a 30 kilowatt for $4550 and a 250 kilowatt for $12500. 

It all sounded fairly good (but some big RED FLAGS were already waving) in looking at the website that shows they take PayPal and Visa and other credit cards on the product page because if that was true then I know as a very long time PayPal user I would get my money back if it was a scam.   

But still being highly skeptical I chose to put the 1 KW unit in the cart and go through a checkout procedure using all fake credentials to see if they actually do take PayPal or credit cards.  I did explain in the purchase notes I was doing this simply to find out if they take PayPal or Visa.   As I suspected there was NO option to use PayPal or a credit card and the only payment method accepted was bank transfer.  The procedure went through showing payment details below (I've x'd out the actual numbers and I don't even know what IBAN or BIC is):

Our bank details
Rasha Ahammed:
BANK:
iFAST Global Bank, 9th Floor, Sierra Quebec Bravo, 77 Marsh Wall, London E14 9SH
ACCOUNT NUMBER:
XXXXXXX
ROUTING NUMBER:
xxxxxxxx
IBAN:
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
BIC:
xxxxxxxxxxx

So unless you are very wealthy and have money to throw away on a likely scam I suggest NOT sending them any money.   However I'd like to dig a little bit deeper into this just on the very limited chance it could be real.  If anyone is in London that could be helpful if they could talk to this bank to see if this account is getting a lot of refund requests or any info on Rasha Ahammed.  You can easily get the account info by doing the procedure I used (I'd suggest using a VPN) and if there are any other ways to get more info on this person and website that would be helpful   I checked ICANN Whois and the website has been up since 2022.  They claim they have sold many units and there are what appear fairly honest reviews on the website with a few somewhat negative remarks but it still could all be fake.   
Oh yes the website  ;)  I saved that for last  ^-^    https://inventorsltd.com

 
   
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Fully built free energy generators for sale or you can buy plans but the plans cost almost as much as the 1Kw unit.

This is what you all have been waiting for ....  Except it's probably a scam.  But just because it sounds too good to be true doesn't mean it is ;)   Here's what they offer - a 1 kilowatt unit for $1250 which includes shipping from China.  A 3 killowatt unit for $2550, a 5 kilowatt for $2850, a 30 kilowatt for $4550 and a 250 kilowatt for $12500. 

It all sounded fairly good (but some big RED FLAGS were already waving) in looking at the website that shows they take PayPal and Visa and other credit cards on the product page because if that was true then I know as a very long time PayPal user I would get my money back if it was a scam.   

But still being highly skeptical I chose to put the 1 KW unit in the cart and go through a checkout procedure using all fake credentials to see if they actually do take PayPal or credit cards.  I did explain in the purchase notes I was doing this simply to find out if they take PayPal or Visa.   As I suspected there was NO option to use PayPal or a credit card and the only payment method accepted was bank transfer.  The procedure went through showing payment details below (I've x'd out the actual numbers and I don't even know what IBAN or BIC is):

Our bank details
Rasha Ahammed:
BANK:
iFAST Global Bank, 9th Floor, Sierra Quebec Bravo, 77 Marsh Wall, London E14 9SH
ACCOUNT NUMBER:
XXXXXXX
ROUTING NUMBER:
xxxxxxxx
IBAN:
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
BIC:
xxxxxxxxxxx

So unless you are very wealthy and have money to throw away on a likely scam I suggest NOT sending them any money.   However I'd like to dig a little bit deeper into this just on the very limited chance it could be real.  If anyone is in London that could be helpful if they could talk to this bank to see if this account is getting a lot of refund requests or any info on Rasha Ahammed.  You can easily get the account info by doing the procedure I used (I'd suggest using a VPN) and if there are any other ways to get more info on this person and website that would be helpful   I checked ICANN Whois and the website has been up since 2022.  They claim they have sold many units and there are what appear fairly honest reviews on the website with a few somewhat negative remarks but it still could all be fake.   
Oh yes the website  ;)  I saved that for last  ^-^    https://inventorsltd.com

I went to the site and saw the short video. 
Interesting...  They claim a money-back guarantee.

So I'd probably be willing to put in 25% ($317 for the 1kW unit), wishing to participate in testing somehow...
   It might be worth getting the plans for $850 - certainly so, if we can demonstrate that it works.
   
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He has a new video out, 3 weeks ago.   Actually looks intriguing imo...

He starts it and it speeds up "on its own."
When he loads it with a fan and a grinder, then it slows a bit (judging by the sounds).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4KVijkAPew
   

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The principle of operation seems to be the two elastic fittings.  This could easily be replicated on a small scale using a 3-D printer and elastic bands.
No need for plans.
Anyhow, it is obvious to me that the "generator" is an electric motor powering everything.
A hidden mains connection beneath the device or the fan will do the job.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4KVijkAPew
In fact, you can see the cable beneath the device.


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Electrostatic induction: Put a 1KW charge on 1 plate of a  capacitor. What does the environment do to the 2nd  plate?
   
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This builder tries a similar build, says it does NOT work ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zf50Zb98mtQ
   

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There’s dozens of these videos circulating on Facebook…. I even knocked up a small unit using elastic bands. It DOES NOT WORK .
It would be nice to find out how they’re faked however.

Cheers Graham.


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Nanny state ? Left at the gate !! :)
   
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I always thought there may be something to the Chaz Campbell concept as seen in Patrick Kelly's Free Energy book.  It appeared to me anyway it was an honest person that had something which when setup just right may work. 

A.King - I've got a very large computer monitor and it appears to me what you mentioned as being a cable under the device is actually a crack in the flooring and it also seems to only run under the middle of the device.   

What actually seemed most impressive to me was the part of the video when he did not yet have the generator attached and there was only the (motorcycle or bike) wheel and the two bungies attached and he spun it up at which point it seemed to even speed up a bit and kept running.  I couldn't see any deception there but that's not to say there isn't some way to fake it.  The alternating bungies at a certain angle is not something I recall seeing anywhere before to keep a flywheel spinning.  If that is the basis for his generators I question what type of stretchy material could hold up running non-stop for years.

And again anyone who will only take a bank transfer is a method I'd be concerned with as there is little or no recourse to get your money back if it's a scam. 

In reviewing his video again when he spins it up by hand and it appears to speed up before he had the generator attached it is possible he may have had a motor with a pulley, gear or something similar up against the tire at the bottom of the screen as a small part of the tire is conveniently out of the video so there may have been someone holding a motor against it to speed it up and keep it going.   

And as a final thought my physics intuition thinks the opposing bungies are not by their self enough to keep the flywheel spinning, after all where would the excess energy come from?   A couple other videos of similar setups seem to only show the flywheel slowing down.  So if this is the basis of their free energy generators for sale then I would not consider buying one.
   

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A.King - I've got a very large computer monitor and it appears to me what you mentioned as being a cable under the device is actually a crack in the flooring and it also seems to only run under the middle of the device.   



Looks like a wire to me. See photo. All he needs to do is power the device with his so-called generator and it's so easy it's not even a mystery.
Remember a generator is also a motor. He is probably hoping for a million or more views to make money from YouTube.
The other way to work this scam is to spin the wheel until it stops, then reverse the video.
In any case, you can make a small model using rubber bands.
A lot of patios have wiring under them to facilitate patio lighting - hence the cracks.


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Electrostatic induction: Put a 1KW charge on 1 plate of a  capacitor. What does the environment do to the 2nd  plate?
   
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I am going to warn people. Trying to be greedy off of "free energy" will only bring you very bad luck. Sure you can make a healthy and ethical business plan around it, but a business plan that is red taped by intellectual "property" or preys on customers is not it.

As for the people considering sponsoring someone's greedy business plan, you will only throw your money in a dark pit. You would be better off buying a good 3d printer for what is about to come.

As for the idea, yes it has merit. Something special happens when you apply a large torque very close to the center of an axle of a flywheel. But it is not the spring action of the rubber which ironically also helps but its the friction due to the bearings that can provide an asymmetrical force over time. It is child's play when you understand it but you are warned from all the charlatans that will start popping up that are willing to sell you the "secret" for a ridiculous sum. I dont even think they know themselves what the true nature is of their so called "free energy" machine.

I hope someone soon will share a working 3d printable prototype to protect people from greed because these type of ideas are not meant to make anyone rich but all.
   
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