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Do some tests and you shall know.

This is only the beginning and i will only continue when i think it will be usefull.(so not wasting my time)

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Do some tests and you shall know.

This is only the beginning and i will only continue when i think it will be usefull.(so not wasting my time)

 :)

I did several test over a course of two years.  I even had a short video that showed the results.  Lost that file, but someone might have saved it.   You won't find it on YouTube, that is for sure.

You say you have a method that produces a magnetic field that is always in the same direction regardless of the applied signal polarity.

What is the orientation of the detected magnetic field?

   

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This was a place where i made a start sharing my results, but certain people think they know better so i will just let them explain my test results.
Intresting thing is that they do not even seem to have any idea as to where i am with my experiments nor do i get the impression they actually know what is going on yet they do see that i am missing things so again i will let them explain to the rest my test results.

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Well, Marco, acting in perfect "marco form", you deleted the whole thread and posted some arbitrary BS in it's place.

I called you several times on the magnetic field orientation, no answer was ever provided.  Ample BS was given, and the pressure proved to be too much for some people.

As for where he was "headed":   I do not care at all.  

The fact that you do not even know what you missed or what you misinterpreted leads me to think that you would like me to "do the work for you".  Well it is Christmas, and I did post these results before.  

Despite our different views and actions, I like you Marco.  You got the fire in your heart, and by that I know that you are a good person. (yeah I stole the fire in the heart stuff from "The Road".)

If you have an ion wind then you have HV.  Add your compass, which is a conductive magnetized needle.
The conductor will align to the electric field despite the fact that is it magnetized.  It will rotate in the direct that is shortest, in strict order with the conservation of energy.  (or is that the law of least action?  Was that one of Weber's Laws?)  If you run the flow of ions through the compass, the it will align to the flow, which is the direction of the conductor.  You may think that the compass aligns to the Poynting Vector but hold it near the power supply and it does not point toward it, or away from it.  It does point to the load, but this is not definitive.

Now, if you used a magnet on a string, the you would have noticed that the magnet moves towards the source of the ions.   This is strictly following the laws of electrostatic induction, with the caveat that a pulsed field is much stronger than a static field.  (HINT HINT) So, your comment on pulsed coils is also false.  

A changing electric field is the way!

You can use magnetic fields, but you have to run them so damn fast that things get freaky.  A changing magnetic field creates a changing electric field, but the electric field can change much faster than the magnetic field ever can, and it is easier to create.

So, where is this going?

Here is the deal, and you can deny it, you can argue against it, you can try to bury it, but it is the truth as I see it!

A changing electric field (or moving E-field), which is a traveling wave, which causes a displacement current will induce a current in a conductor by dragging the electrons along with it.  Rather than finding another source of energy, or adding more energy to the system, we have instead found another means of induction that was right in front of us the whole time and entirely overlooked.

This means is "cumulative" and better yet, can be accentuated by addition of an external force field of force perpendicular to the moving electric field, which increase the current by increasing the precession of electrons.  There are no other explanations, theories, discussions, or Bullshit!  This is what SM tried to convey, what spherics tried to convey, and what many others discovered but did not understand.

(edited out the provocative and bad stuff)



« Last Edit: 2010-12-26, 17:52:51 by Grumpy »
   

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Grumpy, you deleted a thread of 5 or 6 pages!  :(

No more deletions please! This keeps happening and certain members will lose their "editing" permissions.

Please "clean up" the above post a little Grumps, thanks.

I don't need this extra work guys  :D

 Now, I am going to restore most of those deleted posts.

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I'm on board Grumpy. One of the things I like about you is that you do not  withhold information, are always willing to share as much as possible instead of dribbling it out in little cryptic clues. O0



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If you have an ion wind then you have HV.  Add your compass, which is a conductive magnetized needle.
The conductor will align to the electric field despite the fact that is it magnetized.  It will rotate in the direct that is shortest, in strict order with the conservation of energy.  (or is that the law of least action?  Was that one of Weber's Laws?)  If you run the flow of ions through the compass, the it will align to the flow, which is the direction of the conductor.  You may think that the compass aligns to the Poynting Vector but hold it near the power supply and it does not point toward it, or away from it.
I would agree and have verified this fact many times, as well I am a big fan of who I still call the "masters"-- Faraday, Ampere, Weber, Tesla and Steinmetz. You know when I read the original works of these great men and I look around at the world we have created I cannot help but feel we have missed the boat somehow. There is this feeling that we had an opportunity, a moment in time, where we had all the information we needed to do great things but we chose a different path. Good, honest and responsible men decided the most practical route to solve our energy problems was magnetic induction but in the process I cannot help but feel we lost something in making this choice. Personally I have made the choice not to participate in this nonsense of trying to whirl magnets past coils of wire in an effort to generate electricity anymore as it has no future, that is the past, and I think our future will revolve around something we knew over one hundred years ago -- electrostatics.

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A changing electric field (or moving E-field), which is a traveling wave, which causes a displacement current will induce a current in a conductor by dragging the electrons along with it.  Rather than finding another source of energy, or adding more energy to the system, we have instead found another means of induction that was right in front of us the whole time and entirely overlooked.
Again I would agree as I have seen it in action and when you do actually see it in action there will be no mistaking what it is or what has happened. My first experience with this was a few years ago when my small low power/low voltage parametric circuit started blowing 10 watt light bulbs, I do not mean the tungsten filament was broken I mean the filament was no longer present as it had vaporized. It did not take a rocket scientist to figure out that there was very little capacitance or inductance in which any amount of energy could be stored to produce such an effect and the source input itself simply did not have the means to produce this effect. Then I did something really stupid, I set the circuit aside and continued with my other projects and later scavenged parts from the original circuit, lol. As you can imagine a month later when I returned to the circuit nothing worked as it did before and I did not have the common sense to draw the circuit and its geometry out on paper, an amateur's mistake. However in the end I think it was a good mistake as I was forced to understand how and why it happened and it also forced me to return to the basics of what electricity, magnetism and gravity are fundamentally. In any case I think all of us already know our present way of generating electrical energy through magnetic induction has no future, it is not that it does not work perfectly well it is just that it has no future, it is the past.
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@GrumpyI would agree and have verified this fact many times, as well I am a big fan of who I still call the "masters"-- Faraday, Ampere, Weber, Tesla and Steinmetz. You know when I read the original works of these great men and I look around at the world we have created I cannot help but feel we have missed the boat somehow. There is this feeling that we had an opportunity, a moment in time, where we had all the information we needed to do great things but we chose a different path. Good, honest and responsible men decided the most practical route to solve our energy problems was magnetic induction but in the process I cannot help but feel we lost something in making this choice. Personally I have made the choice not to participate in this nonsense of trying to whirl magnets past coils of wire in an effort to generate electricity anymore as it has no future, that is the past, and I think our future will revolve around something we knew over one hundred years ago -- electrostatics.
Again I would agree as I have seen it in action and when you do actually see it in action there will be no mistaking what it is or what has happened. My first experience with this was a few years ago when my small low power/low voltage parametric circuit started blowing 10 watt light bulbs, I do not mean the tungsten filament was broken I mean the filament was no longer present as it had vaporized. It did not take a rocket scientist to figure out that there was very little capacitance or inductance in which any amount of energy could be stored to produce such an effect and the source input itself simply did not have the means to produce this effect. Then I did something really stupid, I set the circuit aside and continued with my other projects and later scavenged parts from the original circuit, lol. As you can imagine a month later when I returned to the circuit nothing worked as it did before and I did not have the common sense to draw the circuit and its geometry out on paper, an amateur's mistake. However in the end I think it was a good mistake as I was forced to understand how and why it happened and it also forced me to return to the basics of what electricity, magnetism and gravity are fundamentally. In any case I think all of us already know our present way of generating electrical energy through magnetic induction has no future, it is not that it does not work perfectly well it is just that it has no future, it is the past.
Regards
AC

Of the many ways you may not like what I have to say now and then AC, there is an area that we are in complete agreement and harmony....especially the bold parts of your above post.

In this we are kindred spirits. O0


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Referring to the initial post,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-W7nuYreMMU

I didn't have headphones with which to listen to any narrative, but the video should illustrate my question:

Is this a hardware presentation of you're writing about?  There are certainly schematics on the 'Web and in the American Patent database, as well, to look at.

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